Well this video is doing MUCH better than I expected. I honestly thought I missed the boat with the King Charles III coronation being over a week ago and news organisations had shared their own quick videos about Poundbury! If you do like this sort of stuff, or got any issues or want me to explain actual journalism, drop me a comment. Oh and a sub would be nice. Spicy Italian on 9 Grain bread pls
It always surprises me how hated and mocked projects are when they have genuine and earnest good intentions. Yes, you can certainly voice your opinions on mismanaged and poorly run projects, but CRIII was just trying to make a pleasant town for all the residents. He wanted it to look nice, not soullessly pre-fab, serve the residents' needs, and be easier to access. Those are all noble goals. Was the execution perfect? Is there a quick place to get food to bring home for your family on a harried evening? Does it tick every box it set out to? Arguably, no. But man, dude tried to do something good. That's worth celebrating.
It's not perfect but it's a good town. An interesting experiment that has largely worked. I was honestly fascinated by the rules that residents have to abide by
Pretty much agree. First they dismissed it as "wouldn't work in real life", and now that it worked, they mock it for it flaws and imperfection, despite it still being relatively a new town but yet much better than many other towns built by modern architects, the very same bunch who mock this project. It's interesting that people kept complaining and mocking even though the locals love it. People seem to like to complain about thing just to assure their own pre-existing perspective.
I think these are things that truly show how King Charles has always been someone ahead of his time. It is a fascinating project and honestly, I think many places in the world could benefit from initiatives with a similar mindset.
I did appreciate being able to park my car for free and could walk 10 minutes for a nice coffee or visit another shop. Driving around residential areas is a bit like a rabbit warren, though
I think the Duke of Cornwall might have something to say about that. You're a very naughty person to highlight that comment. I almost choked on my lunch😅😅😅
It's honestly a nice place to wonder around even if it feels different to the wider Dorset and South West. It's got a great play park and fields for families and my friends' children love going there. There's a lot to like about the place
The rules are really not that strict. In Stavanger, Norway, where I live there are very similar type of rules. Though it's not for the whole city, but just the older parts. You can't really do anything with your house without applying for permission.
I'd say it's been a successful project so far. 4,000 odd people living in Poundbury, nice independent businesses, walkable community and always quite clean. It's still a bit weird walking around it.
@@JournoMode Give it a time. It's still arguably relatively a new town. The town can be built, but the community has to grow, and it's evidently currently growing.
Seems when setting the rules to keep the character of the place, they accidentally squashed many of the things that make an area lived in. Protecting the character of the houses makes sense, but the individual character people bring to their home, the stuff that comes and goes with who lives in a house or flat at any one time, is important, too.
@@JournoMode Recommended for me via the algorithm literally! Watch a lot of factual docs/random ones built - the production level is what i normally go for too and easy to watch before bed/evening time - well done man! Let the algorithm works it magic. I won't be the only one who stumbles upon this - now its about consistency for this beasty algorithm to love you
@@JournoMode This was a great watch by the way. The thing about Poundbury that I've never really understood, is how they've gotten away with the almost entire lack of standard road markings etc. You absolutely called it regarding the 'roundabout' for instance. Utterly, utterly bizarre.
as a US architect of the last 45 years, educated and trained in the classical modernist tradition who should hate everything prince, now king Charles stands for, I concede that everything he espoused was absolutely 'spot on'. My current understanding is that what we now understand as 'modernism' was an outgrowth of the universal death and destruction of the first world war. In itself a clear harbinger of the demise of human civilization. Albeit understandable but not a healthy vision for the future of mankind where a profound understanding and appreciation of the past is an essential foundation for visions for the future. Far from being a 'toy town' this is a grown up healthy essential vision for the future of human urban development.] Cancel Comment
This reminds me of Dinner Plain, a regulated subalpine town in Australia. It has similar rules to enforce muted colours and a standard architectural theme (although obviously not neo-Georgian). I think the place has a lovely vibe in summer when everything is green and also in the winter snow season, although an ex girlfriend said she thought the place was "a bit twee". But like Poundbury, Dinner Plain prices are higher than one would expect for the area.
Great video! I'm really surprised that Poundbury isn't better known given the huge rise in urbanist thinking, and whilst it could do with some fine tuning, I think it's really along the right lines. I feel like a lot of the "lifelessness" is due to the streets being perhaps ridiculously wide, where they're narrower it's exceedingly pleasant, and the trees not being fully grown yet.
Let there be concessions in Poundbury to the English spirit of individual choice. If someone wants to paint a door a colour other than a pastel, like scarlet or orange, no legal force ought to stop them. I can't say where to draw the line exactly, but it mustn't be purely arbitrary and the criterion _mustn't be_ that not a single person will object to it. Restrictions without end are inimical to the enjoyment of life. There has to be some _Live and let live._
One would *think* it would be easy for a billionaire to put their ideas into action, but the reality is that very few of them do it and even fewer of them commit to a vision this strongly and for this long. The only things really comparable in terms of the sheer time commitment and investment are Dubai and this model town Disney built in Florida. Whether or not you'd want to live in Poundbury, in some sense it's a return to form for the monarchy. The built and natural environment inevitably changes the way the people who live in it behave, so the power to change the landscape is the most primal and real kind of power. It's why we value land in the first place, and like building games so much. A place of your own means a space you can project your will over. Building a town is the most direct and accessible expression of royal power, a kind of decree written in stone. But I think this kind of power is hard to wield effectively in the real world, especially at this scale. Merely gaining money might give someone influence, but it doesn't teach them how to wield power effectively: and the learning curve can be very steep. Most very rich people build mansions, not entire communities. I would say that the takeaway from this video is that King Charles should not be underestimated: for good or for ill, this is a man who took notes from his ancestors on how to wield real power effectively. English anti-monarchists would do well to do the same, rather than daydreaming about a glorious rebellion that's totes going to happen when the police arrest the wrong person (that is never how it works and people ought to know that by now).
@@golwenlothlindel Good comment thank you. Victoria was a great one for putting up prize money for great designs and ideas, I think to get 40ft containers off the road and onto the rail system would be a huge advantage. (Tunnels and bridges are too small) also as King it would be in Charles interests I think to promote the railway system to transport electric cars long distance as they do not have the range for long journeys.
I have a cynical thoughts over it's name built on the Duke of Cornwall's land and cash registers ringing, calling it Poundbury to me was not a good idea! Now I agree with Prince Charles"s statement about the London skyline, and I have seen in the North the same thing happen. Some parts of Pondbury look like across between New England, Cheltenham Spa, and early mill buildings of Georgian England. I admit I do have an aversion and loathing to red brick unless it fashioned in the New England style with Limestone edging down the walls giving it more stately look is the only time it should be used. One thing British planners got right was during the Palestinian mandate. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with the same stone. This why I like the walls of York built in a limestone colour and York railway station was built in Yellow brick. If I was building a new town, three things an English village should have a lake, large stream or river running through it. A village green, cricket pitch and a Church in the centre. This so people can relax. I know Poundbury has these but not in the centre which is how original villages grew up. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Conclusion:- It is what the U.K. has been crying out for since the mess of the sixties, shame it has to take a Prince to do it! Yes and I am available to design a village or a town! 😂
My friend worked on some of the buildings there. About 8 years ago, he was speeding along the roads there and came round a corner and almost crashed straight into Charles and his bodyguards. They all lept in front of him in protection and my friend made it round them and kept going. Grim town, feels empty and sterile whenever I'm there. Probably a wet dream for rich royalists though.
Well this video is doing MUCH better than I expected. I honestly thought I missed the boat with the King Charles III coronation being over a week ago and news organisations had shared their own quick videos about Poundbury! If you do like this sort of stuff, or got any issues or want me to explain actual journalism, drop me a comment.
Oh and a sub would be nice. Spicy Italian on 9 Grain bread pls
It always surprises me how hated and mocked projects are when they have genuine and earnest good intentions. Yes, you can certainly voice your opinions on mismanaged and poorly run projects, but CRIII was just trying to make a pleasant town for all the residents. He wanted it to look nice, not soullessly pre-fab, serve the residents' needs, and be easier to access. Those are all noble goals.
Was the execution perfect? Is there a quick place to get food to bring home for your family on a harried evening? Does it tick every box it set out to? Arguably, no. But man, dude tried to do something good. That's worth celebrating.
It's not perfect but it's a good town. An interesting experiment that has largely worked. I was honestly fascinated by the rules that residents have to abide by
Pretty much agree. First they dismissed it as "wouldn't work in real life", and now that it worked, they mock it for it flaws and imperfection, despite it still being relatively a new town but yet much better than many other towns built by modern architects, the very same bunch who mock this project. It's interesting that people kept complaining and mocking even though the locals love it. People seem to like to complain about thing just to assure their own pre-existing perspective.
I think these are things that truly show how King Charles has always been someone ahead of his time. It is a fascinating project and honestly, I think many places in the world could benefit from initiatives with a similar mindset.
No charity shops or takeaways not even a McDonalds who would live in place like that ME PLEASE.
There's a Maccies that looks like a pub just outside of Poundbury that has to be seen to be believed.
I was told by the media that it was a toytown. It looks nice. Real European urban village stuff.
I did appreciate being able to park my car for free and could walk 10 minutes for a nice coffee or visit another shop. Driving around residential areas is a bit like a rabbit warren, though
I'll take the toy town over Neom or Forest City Johor Bahru, thank you very much.
This randomly popped into my recs and i thought it said "566,000" views, certainly deserves that many.
This is a beautiful town & will age well.
More small cities & towns should be planned with a traditional look.
There's some weathered bits but it's otherwise quite clean.
"Come inside the duchess of Cornwall" 10/10
I think the Duke of Cornwall might have something to say about that. You're a very naughty person to highlight that comment. I almost choked on my lunch😅😅😅
No bloody thanks. I'll stay with whatever sheep I can catch on Friday night.
Looks really nice. The sooner people realise ugliness is a choice and not requirement, the more beautiful cities can become.
It's honestly a nice place to wonder around even if it feels different to the wider Dorset and South West. It's got a great play park and fields for families and my friends' children love going there. There's a lot to like about the place
The rules are really not that strict. In Stavanger, Norway, where I live there are very similar type of rules. Though it's not for the whole city, but just the older parts. You can't really do anything with your house without applying for permission.
the "NIMBY/idiot" caption killed me ahahaha
Am I right in thinking that NIMBY is "Not In My Back Yard"?
@@Helmaron1538 yep
@@paulobodriguez7437 Thank you.
@@paulobodriguez7437 Thank you.
The title of the video has a contemptuous tone
You know what King Charlie's vision is pretty down to earth and progressive so I'll give him that.
I'd say it's been a successful project so far. 4,000 odd people living in Poundbury, nice independent businesses, walkable community and always quite clean. It's still a bit weird walking around it.
@@JournoMode Give it a time. It's still arguably relatively a new town. The town can be built, but the community has to grow, and it's evidently currently growing.
@@polpojliekwanjaroen3511 True. I'll check back on this comment in 10 years time.
Seems when setting the rules to keep the character of the place, they accidentally squashed many of the things that make an area lived in. Protecting the character of the houses makes sense, but the individual character people bring to their home, the stuff that comes and goes with who lives in a house or flat at any one time, is important, too.
'you know its posh when it has a Waitrose'
couldnt agree more
Royal Family have shopped there as well
Its not a toy town. Its one of the few good new towns built. Modern arcitecture are so shitty. Finally something beautiful
Dude the algorithm is working, this will get a hell of a lot more views - great piece or work indeed!
Thank you very much! How did you find this video?
@@JournoMode Recommended for me via the algorithm literally! Watch a lot of factual docs/random ones built - the production level is what i normally go for too and easy to watch before bed/evening time - well done man! Let the algorithm works it magic. I won't be the only one who stumbles upon this - now its about consistency for this beasty algorithm to love you
No McDonalds? Poundbury literally has a McDonalds. (Albeit an odd one whose building and branding clearly had conditions applied to it).
It's technically in Martinstown but nevertheless a stones throw away from Poundbury
@@JournoMode This was a great watch by the way.
The thing about Poundbury that I've never really understood, is how they've gotten away with the almost entire lack of standard road markings etc.
You absolutely called it regarding the 'roundabout' for instance.
Utterly, utterly bizarre.
Wow this is so good, the fact you don't have 100 times the views you have is criminal!
Thank you so much! It took a lot of research, filming, editing and long nights!
Oh wow, I’m as flabbergasted as everyone else here - I thought this was from a big channel. Great video! I really think this will blow up.
I'm in tears 🥲 thank you for your kind comment!
as a US architect of the last 45 years, educated and trained in the classical modernist tradition who should hate everything prince, now king Charles stands for, I concede that everything he espoused was absolutely 'spot on'. My current understanding is that what we now understand as 'modernism' was an outgrowth of the universal death and destruction of the first world war. In itself a clear harbinger of the demise of human civilization. Albeit understandable but not a healthy vision for the future of mankind where a profound understanding and appreciation of the past is an essential foundation for visions for the future. Far from being a 'toy town' this is a grown up healthy essential vision for the future of human urban development.]
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Fascinating stuff! Hope this video blows up for you
This reminds me of Dinner Plain, a regulated subalpine town in Australia. It has similar rules to enforce muted colours and a standard architectural theme (although obviously not neo-Georgian). I think the place has a lovely vibe in summer when everything is green and also in the winter snow season, although an ex girlfriend said she thought the place was "a bit twee". But like Poundbury, Dinner Plain prices are higher than one would expect for the area.
Great video! I'm really surprised that Poundbury isn't better known given the huge rise in urbanist thinking, and whilst it could do with some fine tuning, I think it's really along the right lines. I feel like a lot of the "lifelessness" is due to the streets being perhaps ridiculously wide, where they're narrower it's exceedingly pleasant, and the trees not being fully grown yet.
It's like a rabbit warren in some places! Thanks for watching 😊
Normal people. : like play SimCity
royal family: let rp SimCity
King Charles: "let's put a massive statue in the middle of the town"
This is fantastic stuff!
Thank you!
If Poundbury became the blueprint for urban development, nimbyism would die overnight. Everyone with any taste would want a piece of the action.
I am not entirely sure how I ended up here, but you can count me a well-earned new subscriber.
Thank you for dropping by!
Love your stuff, I was blessed by the algorithm today to find such a quality channel
Thank you 🙏 all hail the magic YT algorithm!
I’ll bet it has at least 3 empty Turkish barbers
243 subscribers…WHAT?! these videos are AWESOME
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Great
Indonesia need this
The people who live there are very happy.
It must be a decent place to live or there must be something in the water
I'm gonna be subscriber #261, please dont abuse my trust
I'll try not to 😃
Amazing video
Thank you ❤️
At 0:15 I immediately recognised this square and building from an episode of Electric Dreams, The Commuter, with Timothy Spall!
That's the place! I forgot about that fun fact until you said this.
Let there be concessions in Poundbury to the English spirit of individual choice. If someone wants to paint a door a colour other than a pastel, like scarlet or orange, no legal force ought to stop them. I can't say where to draw the line exactly, but it mustn't be purely arbitrary and the criterion _mustn't be_ that not a single person will object to it. Restrictions without end are inimical to the enjoyment of life. There has to be some _Live and let live._
Individuals can already choose not to live there.
@@jaspermay5813 Highly intelligent reply. I feel I am in the presence of a genius intellect.
I like your use of "Masterplan"
It's a lovely song.
Actually it reminds of posh properties in Crystal Palace, Gypsy hill, Beckenham etc in south London.
Time will tell if it was a good idea or not. At least Charlie has put his money where his mouth is, but that is easy for a billionaire.
Couldn't agree more
One would *think* it would be easy for a billionaire to put their ideas into action, but the reality is that very few of them do it and even fewer of them commit to a vision this strongly and for this long. The only things really comparable in terms of the sheer time commitment and investment are Dubai and this model town Disney built in Florida. Whether or not you'd want to live in Poundbury, in some sense it's a return to form for the monarchy. The built and natural environment inevitably changes the way the people who live in it behave, so the power to change the landscape is the most primal and real kind of power. It's why we value land in the first place, and like building games so much. A place of your own means a space you can project your will over. Building a town is the most direct and accessible expression of royal power, a kind of decree written in stone. But I think this kind of power is hard to wield effectively in the real world, especially at this scale. Merely gaining money might give someone influence, but it doesn't teach them how to wield power effectively: and the learning curve can be very steep. Most very rich people build mansions, not entire communities. I would say that the takeaway from this video is that King Charles should not be underestimated: for good or for ill, this is a man who took notes from his ancestors on how to wield real power effectively. English anti-monarchists would do well to do the same, rather than daydreaming about a glorious rebellion that's totes going to happen when the police arrest the wrong person (that is never how it works and people ought to know that by now).
@@golwenlothlindel Good comment thank you. Victoria was a great one for putting up prize money for great designs and ideas, I think to get 40ft containers off the road and onto the rail system would be a huge advantage. (Tunnels and bridges are too small) also as King it would be in Charles interests I think to promote the railway system to transport electric cars long distance as they do not have the range for long journeys.
@@golwenlothlindel Totes. Lol
The streets are too wide, leading to a sense of isolation and unease. I think this is most of the reason why it feels unnatural and 'off'
The transition from Dorchester to Poundbury as well is a bit jarring
It really needs more trees, pot plants, hanging baskets, vegie gardens for bee's & bugs & where's the cats & dogs!
lifeless town
Needs a Nandos, that's what it needs
No public transport No bike infrastructure ?
There's buses that run through Poundbury and cycle/walking routes. It's basic but works
iirc was designed to be walkable instead
I have a cynical thoughts over it's name built on the Duke of Cornwall's land and cash registers ringing, calling it Poundbury to me was not a good idea! Now I agree with Prince Charles"s statement about the London skyline, and I have seen in the North the same thing happen. Some parts of Pondbury look like across between New England, Cheltenham Spa, and early mill buildings of Georgian England. I admit I do have an aversion and loathing to red brick unless it fashioned in the New England style with Limestone edging down the walls giving it more stately look is the only time it should be used. One thing British planners got right was during the Palestinian mandate. Jerusalem will be rebuilt with the same stone. This why I like the walls of York built in a limestone colour and York railway station was built in Yellow brick. If I was building a new town, three things an English village should have a lake, large stream or river running through it. A village green, cricket pitch and a Church in the centre. This so people can relax. I know Poundbury has these but not in the centre which is how original villages grew up. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Conclusion:- It is what the U.K. has been crying out for since the mess of the sixties, shame it has to take a Prince to do it! Yes and I am available to design a village or a town! 😂
My friend worked on some of the buildings there. About 8 years ago, he was speeding along the roads there and came round a corner and almost crashed straight into Charles and his bodyguards. They all lept in front of him in protection and my friend made it round them and kept going.
Grim town, feels empty and sterile whenever I'm there. Probably a wet dream for rich royalists though.
It's a fascinating place to say the least 🤔
King Charles III - the great spender of other people’s money!! #NOTMYKING
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