what would be a perfect addition, would be to drill till you hit water so it will fill with fresh cold water. trout are a cold water lover and it would solve the airation and algae issue too.:)
Murky is real good; it means the ph level is right on. That much vegetation brings that much bugs: mosquito larvae, worms, spiders, tadpoles(not bugs), dragonfly larvae, etc. Well fed trout will grow one inch a month and then slow down in winter months. Great job. Mr. Paton.
I would still feed while doing my best to maintain water quality...... also I wonder if it would ever be possible to run water to the pond like creating a rain water capture system and then cycle the water through a stream ? I bet you could dig and build it much much cheaper than you would expect??
Thanks for letting us see the fish u got from the fish farm that why u get a portable air pump u want have that problem with fish dying there 10 bucks maybe cheaper
Curious if you've check the water temp during the summer. Was thinking of trying rainbow trout in SW Virginia in a small pond, just not sure if it will get too warm for them. Oxygen I can do, can't fix temp too much other than some shade. Thanks for sharing!
I am thinking watercress to shade the water and produce sellable product. I had a big koi pond in Florida and was able to keep high density fish with small pump through a trench lined with greenhouse covering and filled with gravel and irises etch top of gravel
Sorry to here about your trout loss. The blue Herron can be a problem here in Ohio. I raise trout in large swimming pools. I cover them with a sun screen. Fresh water runs though the pools for irrigation to my produce and fruit trees. I think you need to stick to this trout thing. It's a great idea and every body has learning lessons. Thanks
It looks like you have some decent height differences across your land to play with - instead of the aerator, dig yourself a small creek/pump system to clean and oxygenate the water. Only has to be 100ft or so long dug up hill following the land contours. Use a windmill/solar power pump system to make sure it's free. Dig a small trench maybe 2ft wide, 1ft deep. Layer the bottom with rock/sand aggregate mix, and a bunch of football sized rocks along the way to give it a real 'babbling alpine brook' design, with the water being pumped from deep in the pond. Ensures chilled water flows through the creek, and if you dig it right with plenty of slow-flow pools and wide points, the silt will drift to the bottom giving you cleaner water when it flows into the pond. If you dig it really right, the fish can even spawn in that little creek and keep the whole ecosystem self sufficient.
Just found this video. I live in NH and have a goal of building a trout pond for fly fishing classes. Do you still have this pond? I'd love to correspond with you to learn more about your experience. Also, very curious how you have such cold temps in such a small pond in NH in the warmer months.
Thanks for the comment. I have actually done that. FYI, I lost all the trout to a predator last year. This year things are going much better. I'll post a new video for this year one the trout grow a little bigger.
I'm no fish expert but I do know trout do much better in cooler waters like spring fed streams I would think they could survive in a pond like this if it was much deeper I would think 5 feet deep still water would get way to warm. Their very sensitive sometimes just holding a trout with dry hands is enough to kill them making your hands wet seems to help alot. I've been to silver lake Madison new Hampshire one time and it gets warm in the summer months. I would think to warm to keep trout alive in such shallow standing water.
I have a similar sized pond. About a quarter acre and 15 deet deep. mine is stream fed but the stream can dry up in the summer. I dont think you will have success throughout summer but I recommend brown trout. They handle up to 70 degrees.
In the end the trout were all eaten by predators, most likely by mink and blue heron. The blue heron was there every morning, which was usual even before the trout, and I didn't think he could get them, but maybe he did. There were lots of tracks in the mud that are likely mink. I'll post another video with all the details. It was encouraging that the water temp at the bottom of the pond never got over 65F, even in mid summer, so I plan to try again next year, but will need to figure out how to deal with the predators.
Snapping turtles get them sometimes but minks can do A LOT of damage. They will take 4 fish in a night and stash them for a few days. Then its back out for more.
I actually caught a small 13" brown in my pond this past weekend. it had lost most of its body weight over the summer but water is cold now and he looked hungry! I stocked 40 last spring and I figure im lucky if there are 3 or 4 left....
I have a spring fed small pond with 75 rainbows and theve been in there a year I've caught 20 through the ice this year including a 21" the pond is 8 ft at the deepest and it is frozen 18" thick. Mine are doing very well
That's a good idea. I have common gold fish and tons of tadpoles (at the moment), but minnows would probably be very good for making the pond more productive, without adding so much supplemental feed. I'll look into it.
Hi Todd. I'm in southern NH, USA. I'll try to get out an update. I hit a lot of road blocks, but learned a lot, and am giving it another try this year.
The pond is about 8' now with all the rain. I am the new owner of this pond and just did an update. Unfortunately, there are no more trout, but I will be getting it ready for Koi and ducks. Check out my video! ua-cam.com/video/zy0Kpgf20_w/v-deo.html
Why doing you get a 700 GPH pump and create a falls on the left hand side of the pond in the corner and you wouldn't need the aerator and it would cool the water
I am trying to clear up some of the murkyness currently.. I am the new owner of this pond and just did an update. Unfortunately, there are no more trout, but I will be getting it ready for Koi and ducks. Check out my video! ua-cam.com/video/zy0Kpgf20_w/v-deo.html
It was worse than an alligator? It was a Great Blue Heron, and he ate every last trout last year. I'm into my second year now, and lost probably 3/4 of the 100 rainbow I put in this year. Finally I was able to keep the herons out with electric fence and netting, but it was a big project. I'll post a new video this summer once the trout get a little bigger.
That's a bummer. The remaining trout should get bigger quicker tho, less pressure, more oxygen and food. I would not be embarrassed about the heron , that happens..nature. I hope you post a video how you netted your pond and such
Did you notice alot of "downed trees" torn out of the ground with the roots sticking out in the woods? Or close by ? If you do, the intruders are not of the animal kingdom. Let me know my friend and I will explain why. Thanks!
Anyone who does this must not treat the pond with antibiotics. It is a sin to release that into surrounding the watershed. I think anyone who can achieve successful fish farms without poisoning wild stock is okay in my book.
Seems a wildly inappropriate environment for this trout species...complete boondoggle of a vanity project in my opinion. I don’t believe these trout will survive long, they certainly won’t thrive. Trout need clear, very cold, highly oxygenated water with food sources like insect larvae that also will not thrive in these conditions of your mud pond. Probably better to raise catfish or sunfish in a shallow warm pond like this, even koi will do better. This is like trying to keep a hawk in a cage meant for parrots.
Looks like you could use some nice trees around your beautiful pond to shade and cool it. Thanks for posting!
what would be a perfect addition, would be to drill till you hit water so it will fill with fresh cold water. trout are a cold water lover and it would solve the airation and algae issue too.:)
Murky is real good; it means the ph level is right on. That much vegetation brings that much bugs: mosquito larvae, worms, spiders, tadpoles(not bugs), dragonfly larvae, etc. Well fed trout will grow one inch a month and then slow down in winter months. Great job. Mr. Paton.
Yes an update would be awesome🙏
When are you going to do an update on your trout pond? And if you get it up and running do they propagate on their own?
ehh.. been waiting for an update for so long. hope you’re doing well and your trouts are growing big and strong
5 years long??
I would still feed while doing my best to maintain water quality...... also I wonder if it would ever be possible to run water to the pond like creating a rain water capture system and then cycle the water through a stream ? I bet you could dig and build it much much cheaper than you would expect??
do an update man :)
Yes. Please do an update. Would love to see
Very nice. God bless your fish/frog pond.
Thanks for letting us see the fish u got from the fish farm that why u get a portable air pump u want have that problem with fish dying there 10 bucks maybe cheaper
Nice video.
Any ideas on how to protect the trout from predators? Maybe a portion of the pond has a mesh on top?
Please post an update video.
Great shirt!
lol
Invest in some clams and snails to clean & clear up your water.
definitely plant some trees around for more natural insects and for shade to keep it cool during the summer
Curious if you've check the water temp during the summer. Was thinking of trying rainbow trout in SW Virginia in a small pond, just not sure if it will get too warm for them. Oxygen I can do, can't fix temp too much other than some shade. Thanks for sharing!
Great video.
It will be very interesting to follow the progress of your trout.
Thanks for the comment. I lost all the trout to predators. I'll post a final video soon. I plan to try again next year.
Irv Paton what ate the trout ??
This is georgeous!! It's huge so you could actually live off of Trout if needed
I am thinking watercress to shade the water and produce sellable product. I had a big koi pond in Florida and was able to keep high density fish with small pump through a trench lined with greenhouse covering and filled with gravel and irises etch top of gravel
Great video!
Sorry to here about your trout loss. The blue Herron can be a problem here in Ohio. I raise trout in large swimming pools. I cover them with a sun screen. Fresh water runs though the pools for irrigation to my produce and fruit trees. I think you need to stick to this trout thing. It's a great idea and every body has learning lessons. Thanks
I’m thinking of getting an aerator also, won’t be doing trout but it did become obsolete after a while? Also what did you plant on your dam?
do you have a pond liner or do you get enough water constantly to keep it full?
It looks like you have some decent height differences across your land to play with - instead of the aerator, dig yourself a small creek/pump system to clean and oxygenate the water. Only has to be 100ft or so long dug up hill following the land contours. Use a windmill/solar power pump system to make sure it's free. Dig a small trench maybe 2ft wide, 1ft deep. Layer the bottom with rock/sand aggregate mix, and a bunch of football sized rocks along the way to give it a real 'babbling alpine brook' design, with the water being pumped from deep in the pond. Ensures chilled water flows through the creek, and if you dig it right with plenty of slow-flow pools and wide points, the silt will drift to the bottom giving you cleaner water when it flows into the pond. If you dig it really right, the fish can even spawn in that little creek and keep the whole ecosystem self sufficient.
With out a water source like a stream did they pull through? Birds and animals eat many?... How deep down is the water table?
Maybe you can try stocking slightly bigger fish? Although minks can take pretty big fish too!
Just found this video. I live in NH and have a goal of building a trout pond for fly fishing classes. Do you still have this pond? I'd love to correspond with you to learn more about your experience. Also, very curious how you have such cold temps in such a small pond in NH in the warmer months.
yes they might be able to live in that water, but the bottom line is, how do they taste?
So did they survive?
you could always pick some worms from your yard and feed them to the trout
Thanks for the comment. I have actually done that. FYI, I lost all the trout to a predator last year. This year things are going much better. I'll post a new video for this year one the trout grow a little bigger.
Why don't you get a small solar panel to power the air in the pond?
I'm no fish expert but I do know trout do much better in cooler waters like spring fed streams I would think they could survive in a pond like this if it was much deeper I would think 5 feet deep still water would get way to warm. Their very sensitive sometimes just holding a trout with dry hands is enough to kill them making your hands wet seems to help alot. I've been to silver lake Madison new Hampshire one time and it gets warm in the summer months. I would think to warm to keep trout alive in such shallow standing water.
How are things going now?
Did the goldfish eat the lil rainbow trout?
I have a similar sized pond. About a quarter acre and 15 deet deep. mine is stream fed but the stream can dry up in the summer.
I dont think you will have success throughout summer but I recommend brown trout. They handle up to 70 degrees.
In the end the trout were all eaten by predators, most likely by mink and blue heron. The blue heron was there every morning, which was usual even before the trout, and I didn't think he could get them, but maybe he did. There were lots of tracks in the mud that are likely mink. I'll post another video with all the details. It was encouraging that the water temp at the bottom of the pond never got over 65F, even in mid summer, so I plan to try again next year, but will need to figure out how to deal with the predators.
Snapping turtles get them sometimes but minks can do A LOT of damage. They will take 4 fish in a night and stash them for a few days. Then its back out for more.
I actually caught a small 13" brown in my pond this past weekend. it had lost most of its body weight over the summer but water is cold now and he looked hungry! I stocked 40 last spring and I figure im lucky if there are 3 or 4 left....
65 is not bad. Rainbows usually max out at 65 but may hang on. Browns will most def make it!
I have a spring fed small pond with 75 rainbows and theve been in there a year I've caught 20 through the ice this year including a 21" the pond is 8 ft at the deepest and it is frozen 18" thick. Mine are doing very well
Any pond updates?
Try putting in minnows or crawdads for forge
That's a good idea. I have common gold fish and tons of tadpoles (at the moment), but minnows would probably be very good for making the pond more productive, without adding so much supplemental feed. I'll look into it.
That's so cool. Where do you live?
Hi Todd. I'm in southern NH, USA. I'll try to get out an update. I hit a lot of road blocks, but learned a lot, and am giving it another try this year.
How deep is your pond?
The pond is about 8' now with all the rain. I am the new owner of this pond and just did an update. Unfortunately, there are no more trout, but I will be getting it ready for Koi and ducks. Check out my video! ua-cam.com/video/zy0Kpgf20_w/v-deo.html
would some type of trout naturally breed in pond
No, trout like/need running water. Most states have trout hatcheries to stock their waters with trout. Usually rainbows and brown trout.
@@anthonyantinarella3360 so a pond is a no no?
Mink are very easy to trap if you're having problems with them
Are you close to Southern NH?
@@irvpaton8849 your pond hotest temperature you have noticed?
@@irvpaton8849 your pond hotest temperature you have noticed?
Our game department tells us that never have carp (gold fish) in with our trout. They keep the bottom stirred up and murky. Ours got large
Why doing you get a 700 GPH pump and create a falls on the left hand side of the pond in the corner and you wouldn't need the aerator and it would cool the water
Your pond max temperature in hot summer
The ‘murky water looks like phytoplankton - that’s the sign of a healthy pond
We’ll done
I am trying to clear up some of the murkyness currently.. I am the new owner of this pond and just did an update. Unfortunately, there are no more trout, but I will be getting it ready for Koi and ducks. Check out my video! ua-cam.com/video/zy0Kpgf20_w/v-deo.html
What kind of predator? Was it an alligator? I seen that movie with Betty white where an alligator attacked some people at a lake in new hamshire
It was worse than an alligator? It was a Great Blue Heron, and he ate every last trout last year. I'm into my second year now, and lost probably 3/4 of the 100 rainbow I put in this year. Finally I was able to keep the herons out with electric fence and netting, but it was a big project. I'll post a new video this summer once the trout get a little bigger.
That's a bummer. The remaining trout should get bigger quicker tho, less pressure, more oxygen and food. I would not be embarrassed about the heron , that happens..nature. I hope you post a video how you netted your pond and such
5 feet deep? They all dead huh
Did you notice alot of "downed trees" torn out of the ground with the roots sticking out in the woods? Or close by ? If you do, the intruders are not of the animal kingdom. Let me know my friend and I will explain why. Thanks!
Do an update
trouts are still live?
I believe Irv has passed :(
Anyone who does this must not treat the pond with antibiotics. It is a sin to release that into surrounding the watershed. I think anyone who can achieve successful fish farms without poisoning wild stock is okay in my book.
Get some bass and bluegill
Water better not get over 60 for rainbows, thats a bass pond at best. 5 weeks is not a test of time.
We will take that bet... Our trout can go into the low 80s
Lmfao
Seems a wildly inappropriate environment for this trout species...complete boondoggle of a vanity project in my opinion. I don’t believe these trout will survive long, they certainly won’t thrive. Trout need clear, very cold, highly oxygenated water with food sources like insect larvae that also will not thrive in these conditions of your mud pond. Probably better to raise catfish or sunfish in a shallow warm pond like this, even koi will do better. This is like trying to keep a hawk in a cage meant for parrots.
chuckles...
Dan N at least he trying asshole
You have no faith in anything do you?.... Show us how to get it done and I will be happy to watch and give a well intentioned critique or two