Pedestal Gun Arcade Cart
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2020
- My first pedestal build. This one is a dedicated 2-player mounted gun Arcade on a rolling cart. The signature game is Aliens Extermination, but it can also play Terminator 2, Operation Wolf, Space Gun, and many more titles.
It can quickly plug into any size TV via HDMI and can be rolled away for easy storage. - Ігри
Just amazing, what a brilliant idea. Hats off to you for making something awesome.👍🏻
Hey Brad, awesome cab indeed! Thanks for sharing and inspiring :)
The most impressive thing about this is a middle aged man finding two middle aged friends to play it with him!
This is really impressive! Glad I subscribed to you earlier today. Such high quality work.
This is one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
Love those guns and the pedestal is Great
This looks freaking awesome! That Golgo 13 game looks sweet too.
I wish I had a modding brother like you. Great job!
Very nice cab!
holy jeebus Brad, you are a genius!! ill be hitting you up real soon for tips on my shooting cab build. keep up the crazy innovative work man!
I knew you would be interested Kongs lol..
Very cool, nice work.
damn dude this is amazing, nice job.
Awesome Brad! Cool to see The Golgo 13 game on here. I need this :)
Can't wait for my sinden light guns! All these videos about light gun games are driving me crazy haha
super job Brad! I'm currently doing one myself for our gameroom. Kudos to you!!
Thanks!
Check out some of my newer videos to see additions I’ve since made to this Guncart
this is awesome man!
simply amazing!!
Incredible you are a genious 👍 congratulations
Bro thank you so much for the video
How am I just seeing this?! Now I'm getting ideas and I'm essentially out of space haha. This is a great idea!
Like and subscribe to never miss out again! :P
THis is so good ! I was trying to config wiiflow and wii to play some arcade shotting games
That's amazing. You should sell this as a complete mod for the arcade1up Terminator 2 cab
Nyce....real talk fam .....salute
Very nice
Excellent!!!
Thats so fire 🔥🔥🔥
It’s been updated a few times since this original video. New games, new buttons, digital marquee, etc.
Check out some of my more recent videos for updates
@@Brad-D I def will. Great content
Wow I want one:)
BADASS !😎👍I WANT ONE.I WANT 2 !😁
Hey Brad, big fan of your work you have truly inspired me to build a similar project for my family and I. Would like to share when it's done, I got the same guns and been using it with Tekno parrot until I noticed Demul shooter is the way to go. I'm currently stuck and could appreciate your help, Demul Shooter recognizes the guns but I don't know how the whole bat file works for example I'm trying to play Freight Fear Land (Haunted museum 2) but it looks like I'm missing the bat file? I would greatly appreciate your help. Thanks, and looking forward to more of your videos!!
Wow great job! Any chance I could buy a copy of your drive setup and config? Looking to build exactly the same cart
Any tutorials at all? The wiring in particular would be amazing. Awesome stuff 👏👌👍
If you look at the bottom-left of this page:
service.globalvr.com/downloads/ffl/diagrams/power_dist_gun_games.pdf
you will see the guns power harness diagram. Bit the wire color and even order isn't always the same when getting these guns from AliExpress.
You need to be sure what wire is 12V, what wire is 24V, and what wire is Ground. Sometimes they are labeled and sometime you have to use trial and error by hooking up one wire at a time or using a continuity tester between a wire and the contacts on the lights (lights are 12V and the recoil is 24V).
But once the wires are identified, just connect them to the correct voltage terminals in a power supply.
I used this one and its working great:
www.amazon.com/Arcity-Switching-Adjustable-Machine-Cocktail/dp/B07RT54H9V/ref=pd_lpo_23_t_1/133-4673328-7039818?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07RT54H9V&pd_rd_r=b21e34f7-27a1-4ad6-9344-fccffcd87b5f&pd_rd_w=rEbcG&pd_rd_wg=dp7j3&pf_rd_p=16b28406-aa34-451d-8a2e-b3930ada000c&pf_rd_r=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5&psc=1&refRID=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5
@@Brad-D thank you so much for the reply. Your build is amazing and can't wait to make one of my own and start playing with my son
Brad, I a building my gun cart, very similar to yours, I have the shell done, and the mounts for the guns done. I could really use some help with the software though. I have never used Launchbox or Bigbox, and I don't know how to setup the controls or add games?
Also, how did you decide on the distant between the gun mounts and the angle of them? I spaced mine farther apart than yours, and I picked an angle where all the way left was straight onto the screen (for left gun). My angle seems close to yours, but I didn't know why you had an angle so maybe I did it wrong?
amazing
Hello from Argentina.This is awesome! I have been looking to build something like this for a while but now im convinced, those guns look sturdy. Would you share the frontend build? If that is the case, how much for the frontend build?
Brad you setup in BigBox are you willing to share? Seems to take forever to make that setup for gun games.
This is amazing! May I ask where you bought that pedestal cart? I want to build my own arcade, but would like to buy a pedestal cabinet cart kit. Thank you
I started with this kit and modified it:
us.amazon.com/LEP1-Customs-Easy-Assemble-TPAP/dp/B07SPYBMHW?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07SPYBMHW&pd_rd_r=69500491-b6c8-4ba1-a116-e6e36013ac6c&pd_rd_w=PYGRf&pd_rd_wg=MwswA&pf_rd_p=bdc67ba8-ab69-42ee-b8d8-8f5336b36a83&pf_rd_r=F0HZZM79FXZSE9DY6WRA&psc=1
www.ebay.com/itm/223860645925?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACMBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkNhEMXTu%252Fq1Qu7DzD5a9Hs4SBvsPr0MxmmVskMlbBbgQTB94DWuM4b0ZN%252BZgCOxoM0LpXj%252BeAFh6CdtOAuY677ncZDTObsGPauPUUkRwpwtIQe727OY1mby9CHAjN7TCFRyv2aVF6%252B%252B8yTM1fY1CPkrhT1xRaVPCVW4u4UAeIkVN7kRCLteC%252F6Zmw6cJsZkrrEYC8FbvHr95y7jfjh3YyEbZFwiqki42BFElqJ10PY0mSs7a0UQF7AB1S1EHOq8hNtFo6EXLGdxMTbDIQysnPVVT8ZWBlW1ciGPWoEAT%252FH9Bnex4cjqasDBvugwCpjwop4Yvfcyz9P5SIas908olRh32q51YBOUARIvCzB3aDS%252FRMQrK8X20llC1PBKI%252Fv5tDj7QC%252FFmmdSQ2kk7I%252FAQwiWtbetbWoPfRvDATOhQdDsxQOkIXxntHRQMndACiBNt0BhOxQbdBArzFUp1FWXp%252BpW%252FahLWZyEzcgKtTWwEawRkD1uRdo1jfBoaEiQYqrmNfMmFVYlgQCqg6oiY3XK0So9iOBqbHM3LuyrosFMg81lHUm4cYs99NbxH8kw3FDH4FlHbZilHkYWk%252F3QdGXln%252FgGV2eqcMOLsbVfo6VDEBgsFQ8xawc9Ane6QaE5w%252FQZHyuCyYyN2gCOsaMfmjwi2lpuqvJSg%252B2lCH%252B41KIURqO8885w4PQtmGK5JY506Kf%252Faj%7Ccksum%3A223860645925dcb88c9305644772bd48fa7dd1f9e071%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A3268220&chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=223860645925&targetid=1068323852870&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9007765&poi=&campaignid=11612431353&mkgroupid=114626995633&rlsatarget=pla-1068323852870&abcId=9300456&merchantid=6296724&gclid=CjwKCAiA6aSABhApEiwA6Cbm_2uKHXRbN_6gsagDQsFhtE8neqOEvfCy44BZewC_ucChF0Ct9ueIcRoCCMoQAvD_BwE
Hey brad, thank you for all the answers, Can you please share your layout\sketch for the wood cart? I guess you made it from a carpenter who also does CNC cutting? for the holes for guns etc.
I actually just bought this generic pedestal kit off Amazon, modified it a bit, added a wood panel cover to the front, and drilled the holes on top by hand
LEP1 Customs, TPAP Easy to Assemble Arcade Pedestal Kit for The Tankstick Pandora's Box Atari Legends Gamer Pro and Other Joystick Units DIY Kit a.co/d/bQStrrJ
YOU ARE A GENIUS!!! Does it work with sensors? Did you try games like Terminator Salvation or Transformers or Aliens Armageddon or any other modern arcade shooting games?? Which games work for this setup? Insane, a true DREAM for me... JUST WOW!!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
Thank you!
Salvation and Armageddon aren't available (yet) they both use USB dongles to real-time decrypt the games so getting a rom dump working will take some doing.
But I have a few that I consider "modern" games. Aliens Extermination and Gundam Spirits of Zeon are both from 2006, Haunted Museum is from 2009, Transformers: Human Alliance is from 2013, etc. etc.
And these aren't light guns, the act like analog joysticks, POTS in the base of each send X and Y axis movement to the on-screen crosshairs, so it works on any TV. Any Game/Emulator that can use Analog controls for AD Sticks or Lightgun controls inputs can use these guns
@@Brad-D Purely out of curiosity: Is that how the arcade versions worked?
Only I've got an old Sniper Scope gun that I've been meaning to do something with, and this might be that!
@@eliotcole Maybe!
most games with mounted guns were analog like mine, but a few still used lightgun tech and will only work on a real CRT monitor
@@Brad-D Cheers!
I actually just found out on another video that it is very much built the same way. HURRAH!
Hey mate, could you make a video as to how you did this and what is needed? The guns seem to be their USB versions (which I assume is easier to set up).
Cheers!
Kongs-R-Us
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is posting a video on 3/25/21 talking about how these guns wire up
Looking at getting these guns. On aliexpress there are cheaper blue and pink guns. Do you know if the mamehooker device codes for recoil and led would work on them too?
Yup
Just be sure you are getting the version with USB. There is another set that wire up via an interface board instead of USB (don't get those)
do you do any custom commission builds like this? Also cool you gave it to thee brother as a GIFT!
I don't but thanks for your interest. I am more than happy to offer advise and answer questions about any similar builds though
This collection should also really have for the Predestal Guns:
Let's Go Jungle
Let's Go Island
Rambo
Far Cry
I have those on my pc with 2x AIMTRACK Guns they play perfect!
I have those and many more now :)
I’ll be posting an updated playlist video soon
@@Brad-D House of the Dead 5 and Time Crisis 5 are now also working on Teknoparrot!
Do you have the plans ? Good work
How did you get the PC to remember which controller is which? My big box mame pc randomly assigns USBs so sometimes p2 is p1 and vice versa.
You can force mame to map the controls in a specified order based on their hardware ID’s
I talk about how this is done in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/7uQWw-tdSi8/v-deo.html
Super!
Brad how does windows recognize these guns? if USB I am assuming you don't need an encoder like an ultimarc ipac or apac? were they pretty much plug and play? im really thinking about pulling the trigger (no pun intended) on these, it just always sketchy getting stuf from alie express.
Windows sees them as generic analog joysticks
Perfect thank you
hi there is a way to buy the solenoid + pcb already set for autofire? i'm not expert, i maded modded guncon with wiimote inside, but i want a recoil for rifle, thank you! ^^
Is that the force feedback? It sounds amazing.
Yeah, there is a recoil solenoid in each gun :)
you can adjust the amount of recoil in the Game options for each game that supports it
What kind of Led lights you have in the background were can i find them. Nice video
Can you point me to the power supply parts? I have the pc and games. I ordered sinden light guns but this is an also a good option to have.
I used this one and its working great:
www.amazon.com/Arcity-Switching-Adjustable-Machine-Cocktail/dp/B07RT54H9V/ref=pd_lpo_23_t_1/133-4673328-7039818?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07RT54H9V&pd_rd_r=b21e34f7-27a1-4ad6-9344-fccffcd87b5f&pd_rd_w=rEbcG&pd_rd_wg=dp7j3&pf_rd_p=16b28406-aa34-451d-8a2e-b3930ada000c&pf_rd_r=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5&psc=1&refRID=ECHFRX49RB6S9KRZF0G5
Hello friend.
I just got 2 of these Aliens-guns, after watching you video.
I have a question I hope you could help me with?
The guns come with 3 cables. 1 usb connector. And one 1 pin power 12volt. And one 3 pin power 24volt cable.
And not sure how to connected , and get power to the 1 and 3 pin connector. ? (For lighting and rumbling in the gun)
Any advice on what power supply would work?
Hope you got a answer? I’m lost :)
Thanks.
The USB cable conveys all of the input to the computer and will also power the LED ammo counter
The 12 V/24 V wires power, the other lights and the recoil
The lights to 12 V, the recoil takes 24 V, and they share a ground
So there should be a three wire harness wear one wire is 24 V, another wire is 12 oh, and the third wire is ground
Here is the power supply I used
Arcity 5V 12V 24V Output Arcade... www.amazon.com/dp/B07RT54H9V?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@@Brad-D Thank you so much , for the quick reply! I just bought one now. Is there any think I should know more? Before getting started?
@Brad-D was this one power supply enough to power both guns at the same time?
Do you actually know how many amps are required? Also, what does the green wire?
Hey brad, can you share your bigbox theme? it looks great :) thanks in advance
This is awesome! How wide is that pedestal?
awesome anyway you could share the list of compatible games with these just ordered a pair
Anything that can use analog joysticks. Any MAME game.
If you have an emulator that doesn't recognize analog joysticks you can still get them working with a bit of configuring in programs such as Joy2key and DemulShooter
Is it plug and play with usb? how you make it recognize the mouse? is it hard to configure? thanks.
the USB version is mostly plug and play, yes.
But windows sees them as joysticks so they will not act as a mouse unless you configure them to do so in a program such as joytokey
do you sell builds? this is amazing.
@@rcadenow7543 I don’t, this is just a hobby for me and I don’t have the space/time to build in any quantity.
But I’m always happy to answer questions and give advise!
Wow where do u get that games big box at? and how much
hey Brad i am in the final step before i use my Aliens guns except i ran into a dead end ,its not calibrating , i already hooked up the power supply , went to setup usb game controllers and i was able to test it there and the gun moved up and downl left and right great . but as soon as i start the game Aliens extermination, well when the game is on stanby the red numbers lights the back of the gun start changing . but when i go to settings , and then calibration mode 2:42 in your video , i press start then point it to the left side but the blue little icon stays on the left side and i can't calibrate the gun ? what am i doing wrong., and i am using Tekno parrot to run this game and it actually picks up my gun but during calibration mode it doesnt move or i cant make the crosshair move from the left side . please help
Shoot me an email bdiederichs@gmail.com
I remember playing this kind of games with vibrating effect that hurt your hand
Hello my friend! Excellent work! I just have a small question. Did you use just a 24volt single power supply or 2 seperate to make it all work? I was reading that it needs a 12volt and a 24 volt to run the LED lighting plus the recoil.... please advise me. Thankyou kindly
The guns do need both 12v (for the lights) and 24v (for the recoil)
I installed one power supply and spit it out to both guns.
Most power supplies can supply multiple
Voltages, I got one that had both 12v and 24v outputs.
@@Brad-D hey bro I seen the link you provided for that power supply you used in a comment below... but it only has 1 output for 24v and 1 output for 12v. So did you split each output into two seperate connections? So the 24 volt split to each gun and same with the the 12v? And if so, then how did you do it? Did you have to solder/cut wires to perform this task?
@@deceptionz187 yes, I spilt each out to the two guns. If you look at the cut-away showing the power supply wired up in this video, you will see a single set of wire coming off the power supply the. It goes to a Molex Y-cable that I spliced into the guns power wires
@@Brad-D can we talk on email or something? I will even pay you money for a detailed explanation. Through Paypal if you would like. I have spent $90K in my Mancave so far and my guy (whos making my 4player custom arcade machine) would like to build me and himself, a pedestal like the one you have... we ordered the guns from Alibaba and want to get this to work... here Ill give you my email address, please contact me and we can talk further bro! Just need help in figuring out the connections. I will gladly pay you for your time. I can also send you photos of my mancave setup so far :)
If its cool with you, then I can post my email here. And I will delete the comment (containing my email address) after you contact me. Cool with you bro? :)
@@deceptionz187 You can shoot me an email and I'll help as best I can :)
You can get my email address in my channel about page:
ua-cam.com/users/bdiederichsabout
Just bought some from alibaba aliexpress hope it comes
I can't figure out how to launch aliens extermination and farcry without teknoparrot. Do the solenoids not work natively if running those games via teknoparrot? Will the teknoparrot inputs overide the native inputs? Just curious. My alien guns come tomorrow so I'm just trying to prepare a little.
I keep getting could not load shader fatal error message when I try to load outside teknoparrot.
Thanks
Yes. TeknoParrot will override any native gun support so don't use it.
You can launch Aliens via the dehasped.exe file.
If you get an error opening Aliens make sure you install the old DiVx 5 codecs that it used for its cut scenes
@Brad-D I finally got it working without TP. I forgot you had to move it your C drive. Thanks Brad. Is that the same for Farcry?
Awesome! Where can i find that frontend?
I'm using Launchbox/Bigbox
www.launchbox-app.com/premium
Nice video! can you explain how did you build it, what software are you using? what software interface for all the games etc..? thanks..
These guns have USB interface is an automatic detected by windows as analog joysticks.
I’m using a mix of emulators (MAME, TeknoParrot, Model2, etc.) to run all of my games. The front of that launches everything is called bigbox.
@@Brad-D Thanks, I want to build a system like yours! about the guns can you explain how did you configure it to show the ammo counter for each game? also to what PSU did you connect them? a guide for everything you did would be very appriciated. and a link to buy them? I found a lot on aliexpress but don't know which one to choose, also a guide on how to setup all the games with the software you said.. I really want to build this. thanks a lot in advance!
I also got that gun and i have a few questions. The 3 pin molex connector is 12/24/gnd wires, but do you know what the external green wire is for? furthermore, the led strip on the sides doesn't work for me when i press the trigger like yours, did you have to do something to make it work? Thank in advance for taking the time to read this.
The loose green wire is another ground for static discharge
The guns barrel lights start working after the gun has been “activated”
It’s the same with the LED amount counter.
These become active after you hit start in Aliens Extermination (since that game send commands to the guns lights/ammo LED, and recoil)
Once activated though, the barrel lights up whenever the trigger is pulled in any game.
But once power is cut, they stay off until “activated” again.
Note: while the barrel lights work whenever the trigger is pull (after initial activation) the recoil only works when getting a signal from a supported game such as Aliens Extermination or FarCry.
Meaning the recoil won’t work in other games.
@@Brad-D Thank you for the reply, unfortunately in my case the led strip doesn't work even after the game activates the ammo counter, recoil and etc, did you have the green wire connected or floating?
Another thing to note, i already opened up the gun to check if the led strip works, and with direct connection to 12v it works just fine, just not via the trigger for some reason.
@@F0xHole I connected the loose green wire to one of the Ground terminals on the power supply.
that's so odd about your barrel lights.
But since you have the shell open, maybe you could just wire them up to the same 12v power that goes to the button light bulbs and put a contact switch on the trigger. That way they would always light up even if the gun wasn't activated first
@@Brad-D thanks for the reply. Yeah, that's pretty much what i thought about doing too, but i just didn't understand why it wouldn't work like it should even though i didn't find any issues with my multimeter with the wiring.
What type of encoder do you use to make the guns USB???
freaking love this, what are the PC specs?
4th gen i7 16GB RAM NVIDIA graphics
It’s just a small form factor HP workstation that I already had.
But these games would run on far less power
Amazing. Great work. 👍
awesome although i would prefer it without the fixed point but on a cable to power the force feedback lighting annd all that via light sensoring .... also that technicly you can play alone with both ... so i could be 1 player with 2 guns and half game over so you are still left with one ... haha
Damn this is awesome, I’ve seen the wood cabinet before too but how were you able to get the guns? Are they from a previous Alien Arcade cabinet?
I got a set off eBay but they are also for sale on AliExpress
m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001604624073.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.44a02QlJ2QlJuP&browser_id=f1c52a97699447748d2dd33fbca1635a&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=hapagutfxk4cauf017e20a60b381ea6731a5cf2a57&gclid=
@@Brad-D thanks bro i will check them out! Just subscribed to your channel
How did you get the Led strip in the barrel of the gun to work?
The barrel lights activate with the ammo counter.
Both stay inactive until you go into a globalVR game that can activate them.
So I open Aliens or Farcry first. Then when in game, I press P1 and P2 start.
This initiates the LED amount counter and barrel lights.
Once activated, the barrel lights stay active until power is turned off again and will light up when ever you pull the trigger in any game
But not that, even if activated, The ammo counters and recoil still only work in global VR games like Aliens and Farcry
@@Brad-D thank you!
Wow! Just Wow! Big Kudos to you Sir! Would you make one on commission or sell that one?
I gifted this cart to my brother (huge Aliens fan) And my schedule/workspace doesn't really making building commission viable. But I'm happy to offer advise and share build techniques/software scripting! I know at least one other person (in the UK) who has made their own version of this cart (and greatly improved on it aesthetically) and I helped him get it wired up and configured via DM's
@@Brad-D Thank you very much for the response and the offer to help! I really appreciate it! I also currently don’t have the time or the workspace, but I will definitely let you know if I do take on that project. I would love to have it. Thanks again!
Hey Brad, when you plug in the usb does the PC recognize the positional gun as a standard USB mouse and allow cursor control? If so, do some of the buttons act like a left and right mouse click? Seeing if one of these would serve for another project. Thanks!
No these are detected as analog joysticks, not pointing devices.
For games that require pointing devices, I use either Demulshooter to override the input or JoyToKey to emulate a mouse
@@Brad-D thanks for the reply!
@@Brad-D I was seeing if I could somehow double this up to use in place of a usb mouse on PlayStation 2 original hardware for the Silent Scope series (really just a curious experiment) as that game doesn’t support light guns on ps2(controller and usb mouse only). I’ve got the Xbox version with the gun but results vary and screen brightness is cranked up (not a traditional light gun in the sense). I’m wondering if anyone has made some sort of converter from analog joystick to mouse. I really should be doing more productive things 🤣.
@@retromod6488 JoyToKey can make one of the guns act like a mouse
@@Brad-D sorry, I meant getting to work with PlayStation 2 hardware itself. I did some digging and think I can achieve this with an Arduino Micro and their mouse library!
Hey there, I just bought those guns (USB version) BUT how do I set the controlls of the gun in teknoparrot ? (like the trigger and the 2 other buttons) ?
The same way you would for any other game in TeknoParrot.
Just be sure to go into game option and set the control to Direct Input (not Xinput)
Then you can go to controller settings and map everything.
These guns should be recognized as direct input analog joysticks with buttons
@@Brad-D Thanks, the buttons work now (trigger, flame and grenade) but the movment of the gun (the cursor) doesn't work.. like it's stuck in the middle, any idea how to set it up?
Original Aliens Arcade guns with TeknoParrot? Nope!
@@oren88
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@@Brad-D Thanks, it works, but the crosshair isn't visible, do you know how to enable it? anyway it finally works so that's nice. now how do I set it up to play other games like far cry paradise lost and more.. ? please
Do you have any insight as to why ONLY those 3 games have recoil functionality? Have you tried Transformers or Rambo or House of the Dead 4 with it?
The game(s) themselves have to send a signal to the guns for them to recoil, if the game in question that you're playing never used these types of guns in the arcade they won't send the required signals.
@@Brad-D lol. There are quite a few arcade games that use these types of guns. Funny enough, House of the Dead 3 used pistols in the arcade.
@@deceptionz187 you're right :)
but to get these specific guns to recoil natively the game had to use these exact "Aliens" guns. Such as FarCry Paradise Lost or Fear Freight Land.
Other Pedestal Gun Games, Like LA Machineguns for example, wouldn't make these guns recoil either.
Games that didn't use these Aliens gun need to have some extra software sending the correct signals to activate recoil.
For example, My copy of House of the Dead 3 doesn't send any recoil signal to these guns because I don't have the version of House of the dead that was indented for the "bundle" of games that was sold with those 3 in 1 Bundles that had a (non USB) version of these guns
like this:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002484390314.html?spm=a2g0o.search0302.0.0.434e7036nGgoqG&algo_pvid=883d4f63-9c90-48fe-91cd-539f5159538f&algo_exp_id=883d4f63-9c90-48fe-91cd-539f5159538f-0
@@Brad-D yes that is correct. So... wouldnt you like to make all your rail shooter games work with recoil? There is a way you know.... but Im surprised you havent figured it out yet.. I recently found out myself from my Arcade builder
@@deceptionz187 can you tell me how please
Since this gun works natively on Aliens Extermination and FarCry, have you tested Frightfearland yet, since that techincally is a GlobalVR game, to see if the recoil natively works with it as well? Just curious. Thx
I did but it did not :(
must be a specific version.
There is also versions of Aliens Armageddon and House of the Dead 3 that supports these guns out there somewhere, but the versions available online for these games don't work with these guns natively.
Thank goodness for DemulShooter, TeknoParrot, and Mamehooker :)
@@Brad-D Yeah. No joke. Thanks for clarifying
That is really cool! I'm just curious, how is the aiming accomplished with those guns? I don't see any IR emitters around your screen and no Sinden border either, so what technology are they using?
Pedestal guns, like these are actually light guns. Some people call the X/Y guns.
The up/down and left/right movements are picked up by potentiometers in the base and translated to ex and Y coordinates on screen
They’re essentially to giant analog joysticks
@@Brad-D Very interesting. I had no idea. Thanks for the reply. I've been working on my own retro bat build for quite a while. Just ordered the retro shooter light guns to add to my multi-cade style pedestal.
How many games compatible with potentiometer guns?
A lot! LoL
Really any gun game or game that uses an AD stick.
The only gun games that don’t work too well are ones where you shoot offscreen your reload. But I have plenty of them in here now too, I just had to set reload to a button instead.
Hi Brad, just curious if you've ever noticed any overheating or slowing down with these solenoids after a while of constant rapid fire playing?
I haven’t, no. But your results may vary because not all suppliers build these to the same quality spec.
If it really starts becoming a problem, you always have the option to open up the shell and replace the solenoid with something higher quality/newer
Do you or retro lizard sell something like this?
I always thought they were light guns, just big joysticks!
Yup!
Would you be willing to clone the drive / send a full set up configuration (I'd pay you for the time and trouble)
Sir Brad hoping for your kind support and response, i have the same exact gun that i bought and also the end terminal is usb support. But i have a problem once i plug it in alien extermination just the ammo led is working i don’t have access to move and fire the gun. Hoping for your support sir brad thank you so much and appreciate it. God Bless Sir
did these originally work with usb?
These guns were originally used in a number of different arcade games.
Some had the guns wired to an I/O board that connected to the PC via USB.
But later ones just had the guns connect fire t to the PC via USB
You can find both versions of the guns (usb and I/O board) on Ali express nowadays
Hi Brad, Nice work. Mine came with inverted axes. May I ask how you inverted them? Thanks
I inverted them in software.
Both mame and Demulshooter have reverse x and y axis options
You can also reverse them physically. Retro Ralph swapped the wires on the pots to reverse their positions
@@Brad-DThanks! Demulshooter works, but I still have an issue with the aim range - it is limited to a partial square. Did you have this problem? did you solve it?
@@jerrysmith3171 check out this video here :)
ua-cam.com/video/FTAoKTDhLJ0/v-deo.html
@@Brad-D Amazing. Thanks Brad!
I saw in another video that you managed to get farcry working. But it doesn't have a demulshooter going, so how did you pull that off?
It is great. But could you guide me how to exit the game. The ESC button doesn't work. The button Alt + F4 doesn't work as well.
For the Aliens game?
I wrote an AHK file to launch the game. That file also sets my Esc key to force-close the game program
@@Brad-D great. Could you share it! Please.
@@giangdiygaming4918 be sure to instll autohotkey
www.autohotkey.com/
then paste this in a notepad file and save it in your Alines game folder as a .ahk (not .txt)
run, "C:\PC\aliens\DATA\aliens dehasped.exe"
Escape::
Process,Close,aliens dehasped.exe
Run,taskkill /im "aliens dehasped.exe" /F
ExitApp
return
So the recoil ONLY works for Aliens and House of the Dead? Just 2 games?... not for Terminator 2 or other games?...
There are some very smart people who have figured out how to use mamehooker to send the recoil signal to the guns for some other games but it's still a work in progress
Works whit guncon play station ligthgun games?
no, but they will work with most MAME and TeknoParrot games on PC
Where can I buy the potentiometer guns?
h5.aliexpress.com/item/32696146193.html
@@Brad-D That was a really quick reply! Thank you for your help.
Do you have a link to the guns?
you can sometimes find them on eBay from a seller in the States, but here is a link from ali express:
www.aliexpress.com/i/32696146193.html
And do you have a list of compatible games to hand?
The recoil only works with the couple of games originally intended for these guns. But The sky is the limit for playing other gun games (without recoil) If a game/emulator can recognize an Analog joystick, then it will recognize these guns.
@@Brad-D thanks again for the reply! I hope recoil can work with other games in future but atleast there are plenty of games available to play. If its not to much trouble could you tell me the dimensions of the box you built around the guts of each gun? Gonna be at least 3 weeks until mine arrive and would love to make a headstart on the cabinet. No worries if not. Thanks 😀
@@lewisdolan6990 I actually just eye-balled the boxes. You just have to have a small gap on one side to allow the gun to swing freely side -to-side.
I'd take a measurement but the I gifted the cart to my brother:
ua-cam.com/video/XpbpV-75q30/v-deo.html
I don't get down that way as much as I would like, but I'll see if he can send me a rough measurement
@@Brad-D thank you I'll leave the boxes until the guns arrive. I'll start on the cabinet in the mean time. Thanks again. Subscribed looking forward to more of your content 🙂
Can I pay for a copy of your configured drive?
What connects the gun to the PC?
Each gun has its own USB plug
Wow, awesome setup, I just ordered a pair on AliExpress and hope to replicate your setup. Could I get a full part list you have used. A tutorial would be nice but you no long have the unit on hand. I see I have to order the converter power supply, but what about other wires to connect it? I’m have little experience but I’m sure it’s easy to learn. I have installed a Pandora’s box in a arcade1up so it shouldn’t be that hard once I figure things out. I just need to know how to wire things up.
I used this power supply, but any one will do that has both 12v and 24v
www.amazon.com/Arcity-Switching-Adjustable-Machine-Cocktail/dp/B07RT54H9V/ref=sr_1_3?crid=12GF6GPYPV5YO&dchild=1&keywords=12v+5v+power+supply&qid=1610481394&sprefix=12v+12v+5v+power%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-3
I also grabbed a few Molex connectors and a splitter to connect the guns to the power supply but that is optional if you want to wire it directly.
Just match up the guns 24v/12v/ground to the corresponding terminals on the power supply, plug the guns into your PC's USB ports and you should be good to go
@@Brad-D do you have a link to the splitter (I like the plug way to extend) and type of molex needed. What about the AC cord for power?
@@raychow5419Here is the splitter I used (I wired one end to the power supply's 12v/24v/Ground and then connected the two split connectors to the Molex extension cables
Here is the splitter a used
www.amazon.com/Computer-Supply-Splitter-Internal-Extension/dp/B07Z84K6Q2/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?
Here is a Molex extension cable I used. I got two - one for each gun (and cut one end off each, soldered to the gun power wires and connected the other ends to the output from the splitter)
www.amazon.com/dp/B07BMJ7GD9/ref=dp_prsubs_1
as for the power cable that goes into the power supply, go get any three prong extension cord and cut off the female end.
Then strip back the cable and inside are three wires (green white black)
connect the black to the power supply hot/Line lead (labeled L)
connect the white to the power supply neutral AC in lead (labeled N)
connect the green to the power supply Ground lead (in between the N and 24V connections on this power supply)
@@Brad-D Thanks Brand. With all the parts list provided, I can see where everything connects. I should have no problems hooking this up. For the control decoder is there one you suggest or a controller
package?
@@raychow5419 any generic USB encoder can be used for the joystick/buttons
EG STARTS Zero Delay USB Encoder... www.amazon.com/dp/B01L8K21CK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
How much if you build one for me, let me know, thanks
Probably around $800-$900 with materials. There is also a panel you can get to slide the guns into for around $100. It makes it easier to mount.
Thats badass where did u buy guns from?
I found a loose pair of guns on eBay, but they sell them on aliexpress too:
www.aliexpress.com/i/32696146193.html
@@Brad-D do they have a plug n play time crisis one?
@@kevinthorn9672 No, but Check out my videos on my lightgun cabinet build. That uses Aimtrak lightguns and is much better for Time crisis than these pedestal guns would be
wait? how are these working off your LCD?
They aren't light guns. They use analog potentiometers to send the up/down and left/right signals to the screen.
@@Brad-D ahhh.. you hit the arrows and it figures out the coordinates.
what game were they playing a 4:52?
www.arcade-history.com/?n=golgo-13&page=detail&id=986
This use sensors bars?
These actually aren't lightguns. The just have X and Y analogs in the base that send the up/down & left/right to the game. Windows just see's them as analog joysticks. So there is no need for any sensor bars
Can you provide instructions?
Only support 3 games?
The recoil is only supported by a couple of games, but the guns can be used to play any game that can utilize an analog joystick (AD Stick) to control a crosshair
Wow that's awesome!! You should sell these cabinets!!
Also I'd recommend @KongsRUs and @RetroRalph get in touch with you! They would probably love to see these in person.
They are both on the wrong side of the country to see in person, but both have seen my videos :)