MTG - U/R Colorless Bounce Combo “$30 Budget” Modern Deck Tech for Magic: The Gathering!

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  • @SJRuibal
    @SJRuibal 8 років тому

    If I recall correctly this was on an article on wizards official site awhile back. Lotta fun, glad you could bring it to more people.

  • @TheManaSource
    @TheManaSource  8 років тому +149

    ALTAR MILLS ONE CARD, NOT TWO! STILL WRECKS EVERYONE! SHUT UP! I’M ACTUALLY THE WORST!

    • @__malte
      @__malte 8 років тому +30

      TheManaSource You can only repay us for this serious mistake by making another WORST CARDS EVER PRINTED IN THE HISTORY OF MAGIC EVER (ever)

    • @justinbowman1342
      @justinbowman1342 8 років тому +5

      Only thing that makes up for this is worst cards ever.

    • @chaoticklutz3633
      @chaoticklutz3633 8 років тому +2

      TheManaSource That's okay Wedge, least it's not as bad as when The Professor gets the dates wrong xD

    • @ClampEEGEE
      @ClampEEGEE 8 років тому +1

      Or the 5 million mistakes in all his Pokemon videos. Bless him for having a sense of humor about it in that Commander video, though.

    • @TheManaSource
      @TheManaSource  8 років тому +7

      DAMMIT!

  • @rubilina1357
    @rubilina1357 8 років тому +9

    I built this once, and it was a really fun deck.
    At least, when it worked.

  • @lukeovermire7
    @lukeovermire7 8 років тому

    A friend of mine showed me this combo when the drone was released. Mirran Spy is another untap enabler. I like the golem with welding jar. Alter of the brood is good too. I was using Ornathopter and impact tremors, but I like this build better. Thanks for sharing. Might have to throw this together again.

  • @mikemckee3805
    @mikemckee3805 8 років тому

    My buddy has a version of this with retract and tons of 0 drop artifacts, kinda like the monk/puresteel deck. Great video Wedge.

  • @thunderstruck560
    @thunderstruck560 8 років тому +1

    I like Pact of Negation in this deck for the non budget version. Its basically force of will, because if you ever had to pay for it, something has gone horribly awry. Its the combo deck Bff but nobody ever talks about it. It plays better than dispel because it lets you go off a turn earlier and that could mean the difference between life and death. Plus it also neutralizes snapcaster mage, when snap bolt can really mess things up.

  • @Eggyism
    @Eggyism 8 років тому

    I am LOVING all these videos focused on Blue/Red decks. It makes me happy to be an Izzet player.

  • @fraser7211
    @fraser7211 8 років тому

    Ive been using a pure blue version of this deck. You can use things like Elusive Spellfist to one punch them into oblivion and Golem Factory where you would just create infinite 3/3 golems. Unless they have mass removal, which you can counter, they are dead. Mono blue means consistency due to no fixing needed and faster searching via things like anticipate or other 1 mana top deck searches, or include bounce to delay your opponent until the combo comes online. I will also note that my standard version of this deck was hilarious and fun when the Spellfist was legal.

  • @andy4an
    @andy4an 8 років тому +1

    i got clint cearley to modify one of my nettle drones to have a top hat, monocle, and suit. it looks SWEET.

  • @TheTaleFoundry
    @TheTaleFoundry 8 років тому

    Probably worth running Mirran Spy over Battered Golem. The toughness is useful, and not being an artifact itself is very relevant in the face of Kolaghan's Command.

  • @cameronherrera3770
    @cameronherrera3770 8 років тому +33

    You could also play grapeshot......
    Super budget storm haha

    • @Vigilanchovy
      @Vigilanchovy 8 років тому

      Cameron Herrera That sounds fantastic

    • @APyralis
      @APyralis 7 років тому

      Cameron Herrera what would you substitute for grape shots addition? Four Banishing Knack, give you the option of playing either?

    • @sutfolsemaj
      @sutfolsemaj 7 років тому

      Laird Amadeus Kael W. Pyralis Altar or the enchantment, because it does what those do.

    • @matthewblackston7621
      @matthewblackston7621 6 років тому

      I have a red white and blue version using grapeshot

  • @cyrilbodnar
    @cyrilbodnar 8 років тому

    Wedge, this deck looks awesome. I was such a fan of RB Eldrazi Ping, so seeing this reminds me of my past love. Cheers!

  • @ruudvanlaarhoven5776
    @ruudvanlaarhoven5776 8 років тому

    Zephyr Scribe (Dragons of Tarkir) works as Nettle Drone copy as well, it untaps when you play a noncreature spell, which Tormod's Crypt qualifies as

  • @matthewchalon1627
    @matthewchalon1627 8 років тому

    This was my pauper deck... It can also work with Zephyr Scribe + Elusive Spellfist, a little harder to achieve but still functionable with preordain and ponder.

  • @calebschultz4702
    @calebschultz4702 8 років тому +44

    You should call this deck "Heavy Nettle"

  • @themanacurve3452
    @themanacurve3452 7 років тому

    OH MY GOD THIS IS BEAUTIFUL

    • @sidasdf
      @sidasdf 6 років тому

      The Mana Curve Fun fact: this is very bad against Faeries.

  • @Robochuck
    @Robochuck 8 років тому

    Love it! Love out of left-field weird modern decks that don,t break the bank.
    I have a brew that might interest you

  • @joncalvert4690
    @joncalvert4690 7 років тому

    And this had to pop up in my feed two days before a modern magic origins box tournament.

  • @jordancali8881
    @jordancali8881 7 років тому

    I have the serum visions already. I put everything in the cart and its about twenty dollars. THESE ARE PAUPER PRICES! ITS INSANE. Can't wait to play this.

  • @Juicylemons1212
    @Juicylemons1212 8 років тому

    This is much cheaper than the $100 equipment deck that I was planning on building (from one of your videos I believe). I like it.

  • @joeyboucree
    @joeyboucree 8 років тому

    I've been playing a version of this deck for awhile now except I run 4 eldrazi temple which in some instances allow for a turn 3 kill turn 1: temple and altar, turn 2 red source and nettle drone, turn 3 blue source knack and jar and go to town. my deck varies with finishers as well. you can storm off with grapeshot.

  • @davidfrance2915
    @davidfrance2915 7 років тому

    Gives me flashbacks to the Jeskai combo in Standard. Astral Cornocopia was a good pick for that deck.

  • @epictrueness
    @epictrueness 8 років тому

    I won a game at bfz pre-release with about 15 Nettle Drone pings. It was so awesome.
    I have to play this deck because it reminds me of that day. Also I have nearly all cards needed. Fnm here I come :D

  • @MirridonOnslaught
    @MirridonOnslaught 8 років тому

    I can't wait to test this out!

  • @hombreg1
    @hombreg1 8 років тому +8

    MtgGoldfish! This sounds like a great "against the odds"...

  • @taylorducharme5351
    @taylorducharme5351 8 років тому +2

    Reckless Fireweaver can be used in place of or in conjunction with Molten Nursery :)

    • @suneenough
      @suneenough 7 років тому

      I chose to use Grapeshot instead because it's harder to counter.

  • @M0mentum11
    @M0mentum11 8 років тому

    Cool deck idea I might try out in modern, since the current meta is lacking a fun deck that interests me. Thanks for posting it. :)

  • @Tha3l
    @Tha3l 8 років тому +1

    I like this, was thinking about entering modern for a while and as an Izzet player this intrigues me. But still, it seems really fragile. Come to think about it, I'd love some live playtesting with the final versions of deck techs, probably in a seperate video, to get a better impression of the deck.

  • @ArtFord
    @ArtFord 8 років тому

    You forgot to mention Sulfur Falls when you talked about the land upgrades. It enters untaped so easily in this deck, it's crazy.

  • @nathankight9424
    @nathankight9424 6 років тому +1

    With the release of Dominaria, Diligent Excavator could possibly be an additional combo piece.

  • @shanehof1022
    @shanehof1022 8 років тому

    Faithless Looting could be sweet as a budget alternative to Serum Visions as you can discard pieces you don't need like extra welding jars and draw two new cards, plus you can flash it back.

  • @evileyeball
    @evileyeball 8 років тому

    i made something like this when bfz hit standard. but i was using that eldrazi that reduced colorless costs along with clever impersonator to get my 4 cost golem that bounces a creaure when he enters play (from khans block) to go infinite. your combo is much easier. but I didn't have access to helix in standart at the time

  • @PlaneswalkerProject
    @PlaneswalkerProject 8 років тому +19

    Since when can I buy into Modern this cheaply? This deck is dirty and I love it!

    • @coolnobodycares
      @coolnobodycares 8 років тому +1

      Planeswalker Project
      You always could you just can't expect your deck to go far.

    • @matthewblackston7621
      @matthewblackston7621 6 років тому

      I have a red white and blue version using grapeshot

  • @BarbeChenue
    @BarbeChenue 8 років тому

    Ancient Stirrings seems like a good potential addition: it hits the Altar, devoid eldrazi, 0 mana artefacts, etc. everything except the 1 mana blue instants. Seems fine.
    Edit: Yes, it's green, but it's an amazing piece of tech for 1 green mana.

  • @Yvon-
    @Yvon- 8 років тому

    Spirebluff Canal sounds like a good addition that doesnt cost a whole lot right now.

  • @WrightJustice1991
    @WrightJustice1991 8 років тому

    Looks fun, trying to find some gameplay of this kind of deck to see it in action.

  • @chrisbruzon811
    @chrisbruzon811 8 років тому +24

    With a bit of tweeking, this could be Pauper legal!

    • @Dusty2084
      @Dusty2084 8 років тому +3

      What tweaks would need to be made? Ya know, for a friend.

    • @itze_
      @itze_ 8 років тому

      It already exists, guys. I am building it XD

    • @KhronnuStar
      @KhronnuStar 8 років тому +3

      the pauper version will be Grixis instead of UR, just change these:
      Molten Nursery for Reckless Fireweaver
      Altar of the Brood for Disciple of the Vault
      Tormod's Crypt for any 0 cmc artifact
      Shivan Reef for Evolving Wilds
      Fix the mana(cause now there's 3 colors), and that's all.

    • @Dusty2084
      @Dusty2084 8 років тому +1

      Thanks much

    • @johnderienzo1644
      @johnderienzo1644 8 років тому

      Finally a non creature combo for pauper

  • @Destral02
    @Destral02 7 років тому

    I built this deck but i use ornithopters, apostles blessing (to get removal out of the way), and temple of epiphany. If yiu decide you put trample in there yiur kozilek can deal infinite damage as well. Reckless fireweaver can make this a turn 3 as well

  • @Ukelay13
    @Ukelay13 8 років тому

    spring leaf drum and maybe foundry inspector might be a good fit too.

  • @dominicsevilla1189
    @dominicsevilla1189 8 років тому

    altar is in almost every single edh deck i own because of how much it just works with anything that plays a decent numbet of permanents

  • @lucasegeland3143
    @lucasegeland3143 5 років тому

    For another upgrade, you could replace dispel with pact of negation to save a mana

  • @zerokidd21
    @zerokidd21 8 років тому

    I love your deck techs. How ever my friends like to play 4-6 player free for all. Could you do a deck tech on how to up grade your decks from 1v1 one to a free for all?

  • @thomasrobertson3190
    @thomasrobertson3190 8 років тому

    Poor Sleight of Hand :P I actually started building this when someone on Wizards put a list up. Maybe I'll finish it off and use your build. Helps Serum Visions have dropped. Though maybe I'll use my copy of Sleight of Hand to replace one.

  • @ZendikarMage42750
    @ZendikarMage42750 8 років тому +1

    This deck is so dirty; I love it!

  • @martypunker
    @martypunker 8 років тому

    I have a version of this deck and it was great casual fun. Modern decks wreck it because your combo pieces have to sit on the board for a turn. Though, there's a little less interaction now than when I played it, so who knows?

  • @christopherstuckenschneide3183
    @christopherstuckenschneide3183 8 років тому

    I always wondered why there wasn't more love for Tormod's Crypt. I got the card from the Khan's Raging Hordes or whatever deck and saw a 0 drop that absolutely destroys zombie/recursion/dredge decks in their tracks and it's only $0.20 and it's an uncommon. I guess maybe there's better options and that's the only reason I could grasp it's price being so low.

  • @Scopesightzx
    @Scopesightzx 8 років тому

    Did you ever consider Reckless Fireweaver as a damage dealer? It can come down after drone to leave you two mana up for counterspells, or can be an early blocker. I don't think it should necessarily replace Molten Nursery, but maybe as a two of in the main

  • @akoras3222
    @akoras3222 8 років тому

    I played a deck like this in standard back then with jeskai ascendency =)

  • @TheRealMadcreators
    @TheRealMadcreators 7 років тому

    You can use efficient construction for infinit Thopters

  • @rowanlangford5310
    @rowanlangford5310 8 років тому

    wow, you have made a modern deck out of my pauper deck... that wins a turn later

  • @liamnesbit4332
    @liamnesbit4332 8 років тому +1

    I'm thinking I try a version of this in pauper...

  • @paulbbryan
    @paulbbryan 8 років тому

    This deck is hilarious. I think I'll bring this jank to modern fnm this week.

  • @TheTaquitoProject
    @TheTaquitoProject 8 років тому

    Since the deck is fast, spirebluff canal and shivan reef are really great as budget lands.

  • @TADMOORE
    @TADMOORE 8 років тому +1

    Mirran Spy in the place of the Battered Golem, and also, Trinket Mages also helps a lot to tutor up the artifacts.

  • @Valdrag
    @Valdrag 8 років тому

    Oh I am so going to MTGO this man

  • @chrismintram9619
    @chrismintram9619 8 років тому

    I'm wondering if this could be turned into a Pauper deck. Only Molten Nursery and Altar of the Brood might need thought and some searching to find replacements for. Looks like a great deck though.

  • @ihgamingihgamin0072
    @ihgamingihgamin0072 8 років тому +2

    Hey wedge you should make a deck tech over a modern infect deck. It would be really cool.

  • @seismicsmasher
    @seismicsmasher 8 років тому

    i have this deck, but split molten nursery in half for reckless fireweaver, and run mirran spy instead of battered golem.

  • @1managainsttheworld
    @1managainsttheworld 8 років тому

    Postmortem Lunge would probably be a good sideboard card against removal heavy decks!

  • @huntergottlieb3943
    @huntergottlieb3943 8 років тому

    Looks hilarious, I love it 😁 it looks like a perfect starter combo deck for the format. I'll stick to living end, but goddam is that purty.

  • @tineriusgracchus1165
    @tineriusgracchus1165 5 років тому

    I have a suggestion, a all colorless artifact construct deck. I've been thinking about it since I got a Karn, Scion of Urza, but I have no idea how to do that.

  • @250Z
    @250Z 8 років тому +1

    For the mana base, maybe it's also good temple of epiphany

  • @haroldkeearns3497
    @haroldkeearns3497 7 років тому

    love this deck great job

  • @grimbeefers
    @grimbeefers 8 років тому

    Going to tiptoe into Modern...and I'm thinking of putting this deck together. Thankfully,, I already have a couple of Serum Visions from the Conspiracy reprint, as well as the Crypts and Shivan Reefs, and most of the BfZ Commons. Very cool, the overall cost to me is going to be about $13, lol. If I can win even a single game with it, I'll consider it a success, considering the price tag on some of those decks...
    As a Standard player, I also have some Spirebluff Canals. I think I'm going to slot those over the Swiftwater Cliffs.
    Question: Where is the Sideboard? I have no idea how to SB for Modern.

  • @coolnobodycares
    @coolnobodycares 8 років тому

    adding in Darksteel Citadel and a couple mox opals in place of a couple welding jars couldn't hurt.

    • @NameEntry
      @NameEntry 8 років тому

      coolnobodycares Citadel won't work because it's a land.

    • @ralphtiff8559
      @ralphtiff8559 8 років тому

      Bobbynibbles. Citadel won't bounce but it will enable Opal. With the nuts you can go off turn 3 with Opal. T2 if you shoehorn in Simian Spirit Guides.

    • @coolnobodycares
      @coolnobodycares 8 років тому

      Ralph Tiff
      turn 1 if you get citadel MOX and a 0/1 mana artifact.

    • @ralphtiff8559
      @ralphtiff8559 8 років тому

      Yup. Thats T1 DS Cit, Opal, Thopter, Impact Tremors. T2 Land, 3 drop. T3 Helix FTW. Simian Spirit Guide can push it to T2 but it turns the deck into a glass cannon because it takes out Dispel.

    • @spartan4310
      @spartan4310 8 років тому

      screw the budget right!? RIGHT!?

  • @zuboragabora420
    @zuboragabora420 7 років тому

    i love this channel so much

  • @devonharrison8167
    @devonharrison8167 8 років тому

    +TheManaSource why do you use welding jar over other 0 mamba artifacts?

  • @Isolanporzellator
    @Isolanporzellator 8 років тому

    I can't help but think the lack of haste means your creatures just die every time...
    Maybe Lightning Greaves? And if you have the money to afford a tricolor manabase, you can run the best modern legal cantrip in existence - Ancient Stirrings - to find every combo piece except the bounce instant.

  • @pluveo8059
    @pluveo8059 8 років тому

    Also fun in pauper, but less consistant.

  • @cdog719
    @cdog719 8 років тому +28

    How about another Worst Cards?

  • @mely8408
    @mely8408 8 років тому

    you can do this w/ spider silk net, too

  • @thesamuraiman
    @thesamuraiman 8 років тому

    Heyyy, I've got some of these. Might be able to pic this up for half the price.

  • @corpral_c1625
    @corpral_c1625 5 років тому

    Awesome deck!

  • @Hungarth
    @Hungarth 8 років тому

    Sure it would increase the cost of the deck by like $10, but what about Temples of Epiphany instead of the life lands? Scry sounds mostly better than gaining a bit of life unless aggro is big in your meta (it probably is). Then there's the possibility of Grapeshot instead of Molten Nursery saving you one mana on the winning turn for protection. Going infinite either way, but Grapeshot is safe from enchantment removal.

  • @generic3592
    @generic3592 8 років тому +3

    I have a similar pauper deck. :3

  • @BigBoatDeluxe
    @BigBoatDeluxe 8 років тому +1

    "Where do people find these card?" Hehehe. Good shit.

  • @jakubek278
    @jakubek278 8 років тому

    I think engineered explosives would be a good 0 mana spell, since it can be used wipe opponents creatures etc

  • @huntercronenwett2059
    @huntercronenwett2059 8 років тому

    Seen this combo from another UA-cam but I took it and made a pauper deck with this

  • @kosche99
    @kosche99 8 років тому

    I've seen this combo running in Pauper more or less effective.
    Not a huge fan, but comboing off with common/uncommon seems sweet in Modern.

  • @ScherlSimon
    @ScherlSimon 8 років тому

    Would you recomend playing Aetherflux Reservoir in the sideboard against Burn??

  • @rojo101290
    @rojo101290 8 років тому

    What about everflowing chalice instead of welding jar, at least can generate some colorles mana

  • @eathonhowell7414
    @eathonhowell7414 8 років тому

    Other cards basically just like the golem/drone: Midnight Guard, Captain of the Mists, and Sunstrike Legionaire

  • @jamesriley72281
    @jamesriley72281 8 років тому

    Wedge! You should stream play of these decks!

  • @kroomiester
    @kroomiester 6 років тому

    hey, just came across this video and was wondering if their are any cool updates from more recent sets you can add to this deck

  • @therickroller2358
    @therickroller2358 8 років тому

    reckless fireweaver could be good with this combo to i think, for more consitancy with ur bouceing and dmg

  • @browntown3444
    @browntown3444 7 років тому

    I might turn this into a pauper deck

  • @Cpt_Nathan
    @Cpt_Nathan 8 років тому

    You can play this in pauper... made this deck about 3 months ago

  • @cassie5248
    @cassie5248 7 років тому

    Could you do budget madness instanat/sorcery?
    Also, I would think ornithopter works would work better than welding jar

  • @Lycandros
    @Lycandros 8 років тому +1

    What about that new 2 mana 0/3 that does damage every time an artifact hits the battlefield?

    • @sebastiendog
      @sebastiendog 8 років тому

      Might be cheaper but also less Modern viable due to the amount of removal you can find in that format. Also, a very edge case but you cast a colorless spell with molten nursery and even if it's countered it still deals damage. Another edge case would be that creature being enchanted with spirit link.

  • @TheRichardson711
    @TheRichardson711 8 років тому

    I just noticed banishing knack and retraction helix the other day and I was confused. I didn't know magic reprinted identical cards with different names. Are there any other occasions of this?

    • @COHawke15
      @COHawke15 8 років тому

      Quite a few, actually. Searing Spear to Lightning Strike, Arenson's Aura to Teferi's Care, Blue Elemental Blast to Hydroblast, Evolving Wilds to Terramophic Expanse and (in most cases) Cultivate to Kodama's Reach are just some examples of "functional reprints".

  • @joefaley84
    @joefaley84 8 років тому +3

    Couldn't you pull of the combo a turn faster with reckless fireweaver ? Turn 2 weaver, turn 3 helix and combo off

    • @Migdog14
      @Migdog14 8 років тому

      Joe Faley you need something to untap when the artifact hits the bosrd

    • @matthewblackston7621
      @matthewblackston7621 6 років тому

      I have a red white and blue version and it goes off at turn 3 but possible turn 2

  • @blainejenrette9334
    @blainejenrette9334 8 років тому

    I have most of these cards already. Well, deck building I go.

  • @davidfellner1776
    @davidfellner1776 7 років тому

    so you can activate the drones own ability plus the new helix ability with one single tap? I thought that in this case you would have to choose which ability you want to activate :o

  • @voodoomupp3t
    @voodoomupp3t 8 років тому

    would this work with ornithopers aswell? so you have a sort of defence line

  • @CPD0123a
    @CPD0123a 8 років тому

    Wouldn't another good combo piece, while adding another color of mana, be Jeskai Ascendancy? That's how the old standard version of this deck used to run, so would it still work here?

  • @joshuabolton3224
    @joshuabolton3224 8 років тому

    this an awesome Deck!

  • @vonOhzu
    @vonOhzu 8 років тому +6

    Ib4 "This deck needs Simian Spirit Guide"?

    • @ralphtiff8559
      @ralphtiff8559 8 років тому +1

      Yuchen Zhou Kinda, but protection works better. I started with pure rush and lost consistantly to removal.

  • @Nikkibiscuit
    @Nikkibiscuit 8 років тому +9

    ITS BEAUTIFUL WEDGE
    now can we have another worst cards ever?

  • @ralphtiff8559
    @ralphtiff8559 8 років тому

    So I'm very sad that a deck I brewed from scratch is now a net flavor but hey, at least I get some verifaction that its not junk. I do have a couple notes for you. You missed Mirran Spy as Nettle Drone backup, it's straight better than the golem. Ornithopter and Memnite can sub for the Jar and Crypt to provide early blocks. With 0 cost critters instead of artifacts you can use Impact Tremors instead of...dookie I forgot the 3 drop's name. Lastly, I haven't found the perfect answer but fyi Infect (GU) kills this deck consistantly.