Budget Modern Deck - Mono Black Control ($40)

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  • @crackcorn0404
    @crackcorn0404 2 роки тому +4

    As the owner of an LGS (and player), I'm often having to debunk the opinion that modern has to be expensive. I used your budget decks as inspiration to create similar decks to sell for $50 as a way for players to get into the format. I have to say, I really miss this channel a lot. I still watch matches I've seen multiple times. Your content is solid and really focuses on what magic should be about.

  • @floose
    @floose 7 років тому +19

    As a monoblack player, this is one of the most solid budget decks I've seen. It is good against most creature-based decks in modern and it is super cheap! Congrats for the video.

  • @omegasarchangel7109
    @omegasarchangel7109 8 років тому +16

    I played against this deck when he was testing it and it worked well.

    • @omegasarchangel7109
      @omegasarchangel7109 8 років тому

      Why did you not end up putting languish in?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      I ended up playing Mutilate over Languish because it gets better the more swamps you have in play and because this deck only runs swamps. If this was a 2 coloured deck I would have played Languish because it would be more consistent. Also you where correct Languish is $0.50, very budget.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +3

      YAH playtest friend!

    • @omegasarchangel7109
      @omegasarchangel7109 8 років тому +1

      I see now that I paid attention.

  • @Edgbo
    @Edgbo 7 років тому +1

    Just started playing with this deck. It’s awesome!
    I’ve added 2 copies of torment of hail fire, which is a really effective finisher against decks like burn.

  • @nancetillery9905
    @nancetillery9905 8 років тому +2

    really solid magic content here, if you keep putting out solid content like this then I have no doubt in my mind you will end up becoming one of the top magic UA-camrs on the sight.keep up the good work!

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      Thanks! I'm working on a schedule so I don't burn myself out. I enjoy making content and I want to keep it that way.

    • @nancetillery9905
      @nancetillery9905 8 років тому

      Having a schedule is fine,I believe I speak for the majority of people that quality should always come before quantity and you are doing a great job of making quality decks.

  • @Inngrown
    @Inngrown 8 років тому +11

    Victim of the Night is typically going to be better in the mainboard than both Doomblade and Go for the Throat. Lashwrithe is all value in a swamp deck. A singke Bojuka Bog mainboard wouldn't be a bad idea.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +1

      This is actually my bad. I totally forgot that "Victim of the Night" existed until after I posted the video. It would be %100 worth running it over both Doom Blade and Go for the Throat.
      I tested with Lashwrithe a bit when I was building the deck but decided to run Desecration Demon over it. The 6/6 flying was generally better at getting in damage faster I found. That being said both are good options.
      Bojuka Bog would be a good idea as well. In retrospect I shoudl have mentioned it in the Upgrade section of the video.
      Thanks for the questions and feedback!

    • @masterchaosforge
      @masterchaosforge 8 років тому

      I know this vid is like three weeks old, but wouldn't Hero's Downfall also be an upgrade to Ruinous Path?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +1

      3 weeks NEW! And yes. When I was building this deck Hero's Downfall was just over $3. But since I released this video it's dropped in price. So Now it Is just bette. The only upside that Ruinous Path gives is a back up win con if needed.

    • @masterchaosforge
      @masterchaosforge 8 років тому

      Wow that was fast! Loved the vid man! I am now your proud 1435th sub! Keep up your great content!

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      YAH for #1435. I will call you Gary Fisher or henchman #21! Thanks for the support. I got a new video coming this Friday. Can you guess what it is. Heres a clue It's a Budget deck :)

  • @GiantMonsterGames
    @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +2

    Don't forget to vote for the next deck tech! There are 4 options: Mono-Green Stomp, Defender Mill, Mono-Red Prowess and Budget-ish Urza Tron.

    • @lodedenolf6138
      @lodedenolf6138 8 років тому

      mono green stomp!!!

    • @sawyermccullough2605
      @sawyermccullough2605 8 років тому +1

      Urza Tron!!!

    • @Hindsight_Warrior
      @Hindsight_Warrior 8 років тому

      Giant Monster Games Defender Mill!

    • @joshbiladeau270
      @joshbiladeau270 8 років тому +1

      Green tron is budget and pretty good, so that would be cool. However, mono red prowess is probably more competitive.

    • @4RaFaeL8
      @4RaFaeL8 8 років тому

      Mill would be great to see

  • @StudioRB
    @StudioRB 8 років тому +1

    Just found your channel, how do you only have 1000 subs. I love this channel, great work man keep it up.

  • @djedifdue6739
    @djedifdue6739 5 років тому

    0:34 done that before. Opponent was spitting out a few 1/1 creatures, he ran out of moves, defeated him through attrition, look at his hand. He was trying to make a 10/10 earlier in the game XD. Though only had one match like that happen.

  • @Michael-sl7vx
    @Michael-sl7vx 5 років тому +12

    He asumes i already own swamps😭

  • @xXDani6540Xx
    @xXDani6540Xx 6 років тому

    I really have to say that I'm surprised you're at 12k subs, your videos look really professional, well made and thought through, you can also see a big improvement comparing this to your newer videos. I love your "Budget to Tier 1"-Series and I was wondering if you could do this for a Mono-Black deck, maybe Black Control, Black Devotion or 8Rack. I really feel like the options are there, maybe even starting out in Mono-Black Control and then building into 8Rack or so. Anyway, thank you so much for your videos, especially this one, as it was my first well constructed magic deck and I've been playing mono black ever since.

  • @dudewhoisnotfunny
    @dudewhoisnotfunny 8 років тому +48

    If the deck is mono black then Victim of Night is strictly better than doom blade since the double black is irrelevant

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +11

      you are 100% correct. I forgot about it when building. My bad.

    • @Midnightv
      @Midnightv 8 років тому

      dudewhoisnotfunny Im glad I checked the comments, I was coming in with that same thought.

    • @highdark4
      @highdark4 8 років тому

      dudewhoisnotfunny it's better but definitely not strictly better. Case in point: Huntmaster of the Fells

    • @Methuselah1997
      @Methuselah1997 8 років тому +1

      Or grasp of darkness. it does the same jobs as dismember and disfigure, as well as doomblade

    • @dudewhoisnotfunny
      @dudewhoisnotfunny 8 років тому

      Hunt master is a small corner case, Werewolves are not played in modern and any zombie or vampire is most likely to be black. Grasp runs into problems against creatures with 5 toughness the classic 4/5 body.
      I'm only talking about doom blade vs victim of the night. Once you start adding other removal like dismember then it just depends on your meta

  • @mouse2588
    @mouse2588 8 років тому +1

    What about Ob Nixilis, Reignited instead of Liliana of the Veil as a budget alternative for a Planeswalker? Also, how about Read the Bones instead of cards like Sign in Blood or Underworld Connections for card advantage? I like the idea of being able to scry 2 before I draw 2. I know that Read the Bones cost 1 more then Sign in Blood and fights Night Hawk for the 3 slot but scry 2 is pretty powerful, imo.

  • @tsuki7064
    @tsuki7064 8 років тому

    for some upgrades, you can put victim of the nights as removal. it is perfect for most situations. then i believe 1 nyktos would not hurt (it is not the cheapest but it provides a lot of value)

  • @Lost1nTheFog
    @Lost1nTheFog 8 років тому

    Demigod of revenge is a good creature card or phrexian oblitorator both pretty solid body and abilities. Obviously the more price costing cost but they can end the game quickly if they stick. Also if you have lilly you can also discard demi and play a demi to get value because even countering the one your casting isn't going to stop the other one from coming back.

  • @genbu2870
    @genbu2870 3 роки тому

    I'm pretty sad to not see new videos from you. It's a great channel and I hope you return to give us new budget decks

  • @jacobadams6277
    @jacobadams6277 8 років тому

    been looking for a mono black control deck I like for ages and this is perfect :D thanks!

  • @kuroshinko427
    @kuroshinko427 8 років тому +5

    Why no Inquisition of Kozilek on upgrades? It basically hits almost everything on modern and in some ways is better than Thoughtsieze.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      this is very true. I normals mention both. They are kinda like that couple that must always do everything together. Next time I'll mention them both.

  • @jorgelopes5683
    @jorgelopes5683 5 років тому +1

    This deck looks pretty dope! is it still viable for the current meta? trying to enter the format, and it seems like a nice entry point. idk tho

  • @foketeo
    @foketeo 7 років тому +2

    I have a mono black deck that uses the same meta, is demon vampire but is more aggro so it works like butter:
    x4 Blood Artist
    x4 Vampire Nighthawk
    x4 Master of the Feast
    x4 Desecration Demon
    x2 Archfiend of Depravity
    x4 Despise
    x4 Tragic Slip
    x4 Victim of Night
    x4 Go fo the Throat
    x3 Geth's Verdict
    x3 Sign in Blood
    21x swamps
    sideboard
    x1 despise
    x3 Duress
    x1 Geth's Verdict
    x4 Dash Hopes
    x3 Raise Dead

  • @fannubannu25
    @fannubannu25 7 років тому

    Why not run cards like wrench mind to gain card advantage in the mid game?

  • @GwennVolt
    @GwennVolt 5 років тому

    Hi ! As an old player coming back, i'd love to play this deck !
    Could you tell me what would be better to exchange with and how many of each would you play ? ;
    - Dark confidant
    - Phyrexian arena
    - Kalitas
    - Liliana
    Many thanks !

  • @RubrDuky1
    @RubrDuky1 8 років тому

    When upgrading, what would you take out for each card putting in?

  • @austinwilburn1772
    @austinwilburn1772 7 років тому +1

    Do you plan on doing a updated version of the deck with cards like "Gifted Aetherborn"? Also; as a player who plays mono-black in modern and pauper, I would like to make a recommendation. I feel like "Ultimate Price" and "Victim of Night" would be a better choice over "Doom Blade" and "Go For The Throat"(and bring the overall price down): given the fact of how the field in modern is looking. "Underworld Connections" can be replaced by "Phyrexian Arena", its finally hit a low of like 2.50$. I really don't like "Lost Legacy", there plenty of picks out there but I don't like giving my opponent draw. "Ruinous Path" can be replaced with "Hero's Downfall", its down to a low of about 1.75$. Bojuka Bog would be a really good add in as a 1 of, maybe 2. Wasteland Strangler can be a amazing card for black, depending on how fine tuned your graveyard hate is. "Yahenni, Undying Partisan" makes for an amazing one of. Last but not least, I would say side boarding "Tribute to Hunger" over "Deathmark" would be better, with large single creature decks like "Death's Shadow" and "Through the Breach" making up a fair margin in the field. Past that, maybe a little more draw power but at this point, its people's preference.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому +1

      At some point yes. Right now I'm still focusing on doing new decks. Thanks for all the suggestions they are all good.
      I think you are completely right about using "Ultimate Price" and "Victim of Night" over the current "Doom Blade" and "Go For The Throat".
      Here is an Updated list what do you think?
      tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-mono-black-control-budget-upgraded/

    • @austinwilburn1772
      @austinwilburn1772 7 років тому +2

      hey im terribly sorry for not getting back to you, to be honest, im little flattered how well you took such advice from my post, so it makes me feel bad for being so late. i like the changed but heres what i personally would do a run down on, and i will say this will be leaning much more on a midrange side of things
      1 bojuka bog
      1 nykthos, shrine to nyx(5$ish, if cut, just add swamp)
      20 swamps
      4 gery merchant of asp
      4 vampire nighthawk
      1 yahenni, undying partisan
      4 victim of nights
      4 ultimate price
      2 phyrexian arena
      1 underworld connections
      1 ob nixilis reignited
      4 duress
      2 distress
      1 sign in blood
      2 geth's verdict
      1 whip of erebos
      1 gurmag angler
      4 gatekeeper of malakir
      2 glistening oil

  • @alexanderklotz300
    @alexanderklotz300 7 років тому

    PLEASE RETECH THIS DECK! I love it, and it has serve me well but it's not doing as well as it used to :// I would suggest Leyline of the void to shut down any graveyards. I'd put it in my sideboard and take out tormods. Also I'd like to see languish or mutilate added because it shuts down go wide strategies. Also could sudden spoiling work in this deck? Maybe even a grave Titan to finish off our opponent???

  • @turnup7611
    @turnup7611 5 років тому

    My best deck is a monoblack deck. But i lost a tournement cause My opponent were using cirkel of protection black and i cant find a way to get rekt of side enchanment cards. Help pls :(

  • @MrDragonsoul
    @MrDragonsoul 8 років тому

    I just found you and you are amazing. I love your presentation and enthusiasm, and your decks are great. Keep up the good work!

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +1

      Thanks! it's comments like this that keep me going!

  • @azelight7931
    @azelight7931 8 років тому

    Wouldn't Massacre Wurm also be a good upgrade, seeing as how they'll start to pay once those bodies git the floor... or in this case graveyard?

  • @rudolfvonstroheim7959
    @rudolfvonstroheim7959 6 років тому

    Can any minion replace Gatekeeper Of Malakir? My eshop doesnt have any of those .

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  6 років тому

      I think he is one of the best in the deck. Do not replace him.

  • @ninjaturtlesthrowstares3777
    @ninjaturtlesthrowstares3777 8 років тому +1

    First time on your channel I love the deck. I have the cards for the upgraded version. Well I only have the Liliana of the veils

  • @nico_fute
    @nico_fute 7 років тому

    my dear Giant Monster, do you mind putting a updated decklist for this deck ?? With like victims of the night and all the changes you think are better for it now ? I just bought the MTGO and I really want this to be my first deck, and I want to spend my tix wisely. If you could, I would really love it! thx

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому

      Did you look in the description of the video? It's there :)

    • @nico_fute
      @nico_fute 7 років тому

      yeah but I mean, if you would do any changes like the Victim Of The Night and stuff you said would be better

  • @jdteam0000
    @jdteam0000 8 років тому

    What about Hero's Downfall in the side board rather than Ruinous path? Instant speed and it does the same thing, still ike the deck though! Desecration demon is just fun to play with, might I suggest squelching leeches/nightmare? since we're running 21 swamps, they can get pretty big.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      It was a 2 fold reason. The first being a budget thing, Hero's Downfall is $3 each where Ruinous Path is $1.50 each. The second was to give the deck a back up win condition, if you cast it for it's awaken cost. In a non-budget deck I would run Hero's Downfall because there are better backup win conditions.

  • @De4dPoo1
    @De4dPoo1 8 років тому

    Is master of the feast a good option? They should be dead before they could get the advantage from the extra card.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      +De4dPoo1 it's not a bad option. I'd say test it out.

  • @Midnightv
    @Midnightv 8 років тому +2

    Sounds like "the gate" from legacy. all thats missing is bitterblossom

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +1

      yah it is quite close actually. That was not intentional but surprising how when brewing you can come to similar conclusion on cards. Also Bitterblossom would work well in this deck.

    • @juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860
      @juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 6 років тому

      Modern has began to get more powerfull cards in the long run. Obviusly the amount of strategies is higher by simply having access to more cards, but as time goes by, the true fuel moving the engines its starting to condense in newer sets. In other words, if you can't get a straight upgrade from a legacy card, its quite possible to get a very close replacement.

  • @crispydave9580
    @crispydave9580 7 років тому

    What about shimian specter?

  • @anthonybazell1201
    @anthonybazell1201 5 років тому

    What about Crypt Incursion? 3 life for each creature and you're already running a TON of removal.

  • @benrogers7935
    @benrogers7935 6 років тому

    Have you ever done a blue/green Leviathan deck with a merfolk sub-theme

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  6 років тому

      I have not. Once Ixalan rotates out of Standard I’ll be revising the Merfolk deck I did.

  • @chrisbowling8927
    @chrisbowling8927 7 років тому

    So I would like to make this deck, but I would like to make a few upgrades but still try to keep it under $100, what additions are must haves and where to do you slot them in?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому

      I would put in Thoughtseize or inquisition of kozelekt as your first upgrade. This will give you some hand control over your opponent.

  • @davidereale1183
    @davidereale1183 7 років тому

    I like this deck, and I have all this cards! (I have also thoughtseize and surgical extraction) but I have just a question: why not phyrexian obliterator in the upgrades?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому +1

      phyrexian obliterator is a good option. I guess I just forgot about it.

  • @Ryan87690
    @Ryan87690 7 років тому

    Just bought this deck and it is a very nice budget deck. For its price it preforms very good in casual play. I would make a few upgrades before i would take this to fnm but its very solid.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому

      That's the nice thing about budget decks. They can always get better!

  • @tempestandacomputer6951
    @tempestandacomputer6951 8 років тому

    How does this match up look against Jund? And how might you alter it to fit a more aggro filled meta?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +1

      This deck is built to deal with the aggro based meta. Jund is on ok match up for this deck, you'll have to fight for the win but it is completely possible.

  • @randyd9090
    @randyd9090 6 років тому

    Just getting started into playing....how does a budget deck like this actually do against non budget decks

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  6 років тому

      This deck has good match ups and bad. If you go against any creature based decks (Affinity, Humans, Elves, Zoo) then you will have a very good chance at winning. Combo decks on the other hand are much harder to win against.

  • @nintendo917
    @nintendo917 8 років тому

    Does anybody have an upgraded version of this deck list? I can't figure out what to swap out for Kalitas

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      Kalitas easily replaces Desecration Demon because it is generally better and is in the same mana slot.

    • @nintendo917
      @nintendo917 8 років тому

      So 3 Kalitas?
      I can only afford one at the moment. Could I replace Gurmag Angler with 1 Kalitas for the time being?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      One will work just fine. It is a legendary creature so I would not run more then 2. You could but Gurmag Angler and Kalitas are doing two different things. Angler is a late game drop when you've played a bunch of spells. Kalitis is a direct win condition like Desecration Demon.
      If you are looking to upgrade the deck more I would also recommend thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek. Theses replace Diress and a couple removal spells.
      Hope this helps

  • @johnstiles2958
    @johnstiles2958 7 років тому

    sry first time voting.... i want to see somthing with rally the anscestors......i may have spelled that wrong.
    but 2 decks 1 budget and 1 upgradable....thnx

  • @tempestandacomputer6951
    @tempestandacomputer6951 8 років тому

    Would Ob Nixilis, Reignited find any home in this as it provides card draw and removal?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +1

      yes he would be a very good upgrade. Providing both card draw and creature control.

    • @tempestandacomputer6951
      @tempestandacomputer6951 8 років тому

      Giant Monster Games Under what slot might you put him in as a two of mostly?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      hummmm because of his utility there are lots of good options to replace. my first instinct would be to replace underworld connections.

  • @4RaFaeL8
    @4RaFaeL8 8 років тому

    isn't bojuka bog budget enough to be in this deck?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      +4RaFaeL8 it is. It would be worth running. I didn't just to keep the cost down and the mana base simple.

  • @juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860
    @juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 6 років тому

    lashwrite is a far superior finisher. Its a transferable body that keeps growing, and eventually can voltron the shit out of vampire nighthawk if you stack 2 or 3 of them. Besides, allow any 0/1 or bigger equiped creature (aka, not the germs) to survive the mutilate, cleasing the table but leaving a HUGE creature in play.

  • @nilo8615
    @nilo8615 7 років тому

    if i were to put fatal push who would i swap out?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому

      I would not run Fatal Push in this deck. If this deck had fetch lands I would say yes but %90 of the time you will only be able to target a CMC 2 or less creature.

  • @destefy7394
    @destefy7394 8 років тому +1

    you should do a big tournament where you take all your decks and play them against each other until there is only one winner

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      I like this Idea! Maybe you'll see on soon. Do you think top 8 swiss?

    • @destefy7394
      @destefy7394 8 років тому

      Ya, that sounds good! The card kingdom youtube channel did a series called "modern gauntlet of greatness". You could do something similar with all your budget decks :)

  • @kmp101
    @kmp101 8 років тому

    cool deck. Heros' Downfall would be better than Ruinous Path though.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      +kmp101 I agree. It's not in the deck in order to save $5 and to give an exstra win con.

  • @janmakal2445
    @janmakal2445 8 років тому

    Very good work so far !

  • @Lonewanderer6666
    @Lonewanderer6666 7 років тому

    Should include Crypt Ghast for the mana buff and the bonus extort.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому +1

      I don't think it is necessary. We don't need the extralegal mana.

  • @bbqseitan7106
    @bbqseitan7106 5 років тому

    Defile would do great in this deck

  • @batatac4mil86
    @batatac4mil86 5 років тому +1

    Liliana is the best Planeswalker in the game
    Oko: hold my elks!!!!

  • @Layden619
    @Layden619 8 років тому

    I'd play abyssal persecutor instead of desecration demon since u have a lot of removal to sack ur own abyssal. Anyway, amazing deck dude^^

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      Yah I think he is a better option now that you mention it. A good upgrade :) Thanks for the comment.

  • @sirbobbya
    @sirbobbya 8 років тому

    why not hero's downfall instead of ruinous path?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      When made the deck Hero's Downfall was $3 and Ruinous Path was $1.50. So it was for budget reasons. But, in the past 2 weeks Hero's Downfall has dropped to $1.50 as well.
      It's also a back up win con if needed.

    • @sirbobbya
      @sirbobbya 8 років тому

      Giant Monster Games ohh but $3 is still pretty budget in modern terms :P

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      True but saving $5 can be a big thing for some people so I used it as a replacement.

  • @greypocow5858
    @greypocow5858 8 років тому

    How do you feel about playing pack rat in this deck? it's at around 1.50 so it's budget enough, also loved the deck, keep up the content. And for my vote I would like to see mono green stompy

    • @greypocow5858
      @greypocow5858 8 років тому

      A little more feedback is it would be nice if you showed off - (i.e. play tested)decks in actual modern leagues on mtgo to see just how good/competitive the deck is.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      I found that Pack rat was a tad bit too slow for modern. I can make a deck that fixes this by doing a little bit of mana acceleration and Utilizing more rats to make Pack Rat bigger. You may see this deck someday on this channel because I like the idea.
      As for playing in Modern Leagues, I will be starting a series where we we take on of the past decks (Viewer choice) and play it in League. The series will also focus on the slow upgrade of some of these decks. Ex. having a $15-20 upgrade limit each time the deck is taken to league. This series will be on the opposite Fridays form my deck techs. Just need to finish getting my schedule in place before I launch this series.

    • @greypocow5858
      @greypocow5858 8 років тому

      Love the idea man, I can see how pack rat is a tad slow in this deck, and look forward to seeing it made into one in the future. Last thing, for your series I vote that dredge should be taken to a league

  • @mangakartist
    @mangakartist 8 років тому

    is there a lack of creatureless decks in modern? I haven't checked up on the meta in a bit but isn't the oversaturation of creature removal just make this deck fold to spell slinging? Sure you've got some discard but that's a rough first match, and overly reliant on sideboard tech.
    Don't get me wrong i love me some mono B and I like the deck tech, but the rare lantern control destroys it.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      The meta is largely low to the ground aggro decks. Both combo style and even mid range. You are correct that decks like lantern control, ad nauseum and Tron are hard for this deck to beat, but keep in mind that this deck is a budget deck that's designed to be competitive against the %60-%70 of the meta.
      This deck would look a lot different if it was not budget. The best and most widely used hand disruption package consists of Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek and Liliana of the veil. All of which are WAY outside of this decks budget.
      Thanks for the questions.

    • @mangakartist
      @mangakartist 8 років тому

      Yeah I probably am being a bit too critical since it is only 40 bucks in budget. Either way, the video was a fun watch, thanks for replying!

  • @akton9927
    @akton9927 7 років тому

    I'm a little new to Magic, but wouldn't the deck be a little bit better if we put a Archfiend of Depravity in it? It will limit the creatures your opponent can have

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому

      they are both good options. I think Desecration Demon costing 4 mana is a little better.

  • @julianolotero6600
    @julianolotero6600 3 роки тому

    Thank you Adrian.

  • @crazykhespar8487
    @crazykhespar8487 8 років тому

    You run so much removal, why run SB removal as well? Id think you would want to run creatures/extra discard or something.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      Largley because the sideboard removal is case specific. Also there is just no good hand disruption that is budget. Unless you are willing to spend 2 mana? In a non budget version of this deck you can Run less removal and more hand destruction.

  • @killerguyfilms
    @killerguyfilms 7 років тому

    I just built this deck and I went 2-1 at FNM. It is pretty good

  • @StarkMaximum
    @StarkMaximum 8 років тому

    I have an argument: If this deck is made to blow away any creature that hits the board with Doom Blades and Throat-Goes, what makes Thoughtseize better than Duress? Duress hits everything relevant that you want to control (mostly artifacts and enchantments), and it doesn't shock you for 2 in an aggro-focused meta. Thoughtseize is GENERALLY better than Duress because it hits creatures, but with spot removal, board wipes, and threats that deal with creatures both in combat (Nighthawk) and out of combat (Demon), I think Duress is actually better than Thoughtseize, in THIS specific deck.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      I think in this case you may be right. My thinking and the reason I suggested it in the video was that if you where to upgrade with the more expensive cards you could take the deck into a more hand controlled deck thus not needing as much removal spells. But i never said that in the video.

  • @scotttaylor1706
    @scotttaylor1706 8 років тому

    Victim of Night?

  • @godofglitter6981
    @godofglitter6981 7 років тому +1

    do you have a list for the non-budget version?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому

      I don't but I've been thinking of making a non budget mono black control.

  • @djah8529
    @djah8529 8 років тому

    How could you make this deck standard legal?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      That is a good question that I don't have a good answer for. The biggest problem is it's 80% modern only cards. So it my be better to rebuild form the ground up. I know SBMTG just did a Mono-Black control deck for standard a couple days back.

  • @buddatello
    @buddatello 6 років тому

    Can we get a redo

  • @drewbaker9553
    @drewbaker9553 7 років тому

    Love this deck

  • @keithhoward7523
    @keithhoward7523 8 років тому +2

    wrong Ugin the Spiritdragon is the best planeswalker

    • @jakebaker2486
      @jakebaker2486 7 років тому

      keith howard wrong, liliana the last hope is

    • @willemboele2079
      @willemboele2079 7 років тому

      KingKong22 Clash of Clans and More nah, jace the mindsculptor is probably the best. Liliana the last hope is good, but not mearly the best ever. The only place icon fits in is in tron. You are both stupid

  • @Nerazzurri87
    @Nerazzurri87 7 років тому

    We need you baaaack!

  • @jpmonje1981
    @jpmonje1981 8 років тому

    upgrade with phyrexian obliterator

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      Also a very good option. There are lots of good Win Con upgrades for mono black.

  • @maDLidoboy
    @maDLidoboy 8 років тому +1

    21 lands with a super low mana curve? -_-

  • @manueltakerumazuelosw.6181
    @manueltakerumazuelosw.6181 8 років тому

    I play something much like this deck and i use lashwrithe... BEST. CARD. EVER

  • @Inushiak
    @Inushiak 7 років тому

    Hero's Downfall. Use it.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  7 років тому

      Yah at the time of making this video it was $1.50 more. So to save on budget I didn't use it.

  • @88Hyo
    @88Hyo 8 років тому

    >No Grey Merchant
    Are you serious now?

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      I tested with it. It was good but I ended up finding myself wanting more levels of control.

    • @RickyBlackAttack
      @RickyBlackAttack 8 років тому +1

      Grey Merchant seems win more. If you have enough permenants down for it to be a win then you've likley already won the game. Playing it while you're behind barely does anything

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      This is a very good point.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      You got it! Thanks for helping me clarify this.

  • @joseluki
    @joseluki 2 роки тому

    17 maindeck removal spells, wtf.

  • @wafflecreep9119
    @wafflecreep9119 4 роки тому

    I tap 3 for...
    Nope
    OK I tap another 2 for..
    NOPE

  • @andycoolguy1
    @andycoolguy1 8 років тому

    This list looks a LOT like modern Jund. Except Jund is in many ways better, with better wincons and manlands for inevitability.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      Jund is also around $800 more expensive :)

    • @andycoolguy1
      @andycoolguy1 8 років тому

      Only 800? That'll get you a set of Goyfs. You also need Liliana, Raging Ravine, Bolt, Dark Confidant...

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому

      YAH... I was off by close to $1000

    • @andycoolguy1
      @andycoolguy1 8 років тому

      But still, if you aren't going for a budget brew, I'd say that Jund is almost strictly better and seems to play a LOT like this deck.

    • @tempestandacomputer6951
      @tempestandacomputer6951 8 років тому +1

      If you aren't going for budget brew, you likely wouldn't be watching "Budget Modern Deck" videos :l

  • @mtgboi494
    @mtgboi494 7 років тому

    ...8 rack...this is a bad 8 rack Deck...but also more budget and has some good match ups

    • @David-gj9qr
      @David-gj9qr 3 роки тому

      8 rack? How? It doesn't do anything that 8 rack does except for occasionally removing cards from opponents hand. It's a "bad" 8 rack deck because it's not trying to be an 8 rack deck,.it's trying to be a control deck.

  • @matthewcoleman8743
    @matthewcoleman8743 8 років тому

    JTMS is the best walker in MTG, not LOTV.

    • @GiantMonsterGames
      @GiantMonsterGames  8 років тому +2

      +Matthew Coleman he is also banned so it's not a good comparison.

    • @mattdrafts1235
      @mattdrafts1235 8 років тому

      Giant Monster Games True, but the statement was that she is the best planeswalker in MTG. If we are looking at them in a vacuum, JTMS is better.

  • @hayz1313
    @hayz1313 7 років тому

    sub Soulflayer for Gurmag Angler - good chance it can pick up flying, lifelink & deathtouch plus its cheaper

  • @johnstiles2958
    @johnstiles2958 7 років тому

    sry first time voting.... i want to see somthing with rally the anscestors......i may have spelled that wrong.
    but 2 decks 1 budget and 1 upgradable....thnx