The Big Fight: Do high marks ensure success in life?
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- It's that time of the year when young students in thousands descend towards universities with their mark sheets in search of college education. With cut offs shooting through the roof, we ask whether marks do actually ensure success in life? Is our education system warped? Do parents also play a crucial role in increasing the pressure on students? Finally, can there be a 'cut off' for finding one's true calling in life? For all this and more, watch this episode of The Big Fight with Dr Annie Koshi, Principal, St. Mary's School; Prof. Dinesh Singh, Former Vice Chancellor, Delhi University; Vineet Gupta, Founder and Trustee Ashoka University; Sanil Sachar Author; Suhel Seth, Managing Partner, Counselage; Biswapati Sarkar, Executive Creative Director, The Viral Fever and Ms. Anu Aga, Chairperson, Thermax Foundation.
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I know many of my school mates who used to be back benchers and didn't get good marks and for whom teachers used to say that they will not able to do anything in their life but on the contrary now doing very well in life, earning well.
Teachers should never give such comments. Their job is to motivate.
Great platform to learn English on NDTV 😘
Jor jor se bol ke sab ko scheme btaa de!!!
Yeah for English and debate
I got 42% in commerce without math from cbse and look i am not worried at all
I am in ca final.
Good job mate
Imagine a world in which your life is determined by your marks. How silly does that sound..
This is what happens in populated countries. People compete for limited resources instead of collaborating.. We're in the 21st century. Collaborate not compete..
Indians and many countries have forgotten what life is about.. If your life and self worth/esteem is based on wealth and marks then you're setting yourself or your kids up for a shit life.
Who cares about exams and marks and wrote learning.. Life is about more than just that.
Exams and schools and universities are very good at making you listen to authority and follow the system and care about bullshit..
Being passionate, creative, innovative, entrepreneurs, resilient and adaptable to life is what's important..
Marks are only required whenever you want to work for someone else, people working for themselves do not needs 90% to start for.
Working for oneself requires capital investment and not everybody has these resources.
@@navdeepsinghbhangu3962 bruv not everything is about capital, the world is a digital book now, there are so many fields where you can achieve success with little bit of capital
bro your investment is your mind...God has gifted the most precious thing to everyone use it
Unfortunately we are judged by our mark sheets! But success is never defined by your marks but by your dedication, and your personality!
Interesting to hear different perspectives. The reality is that the way system is designed, marks matter in terms of where you start your career (as some parent said about the trajectory). Marks are not indicator of success in life. It would help to have corporates and government recruiters also in the panel. As long as marks form part of the entry criteria, they would be important. And in fighting this race, students get left behind in essential things like communication, EQ, creativity etc as it does not count on the grade sheet.
Indian education system doesn't train the kids to think out of the box. It doesn't show students how to apply their knowledge and test them on their understanding. Our children dont know basic survival skills, civic sense and social work. These facets in addition to sports and outdoor experiences help in widening their horizons, rather than getting A grades on their score cards. Will A grades teach them carpentry, plumbing, financial management knowledge
Please do this discussion once again NDTV because I think the situation is worsened. Bring coaching teachers also and if possible bring Jay Shetty too. Thank you
My aunt had attended a TON of colleges too.
So when my Mesa CC diploma arrived in the mail, she was SO happy and called me about it.
=)
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THIS GOOD LOOKING ANCHOR OF NDTV? HE HA DOES IT IN A.VERY PROFESSIONAL MANNER. 👍
It was an incredible debate.......The anchor dealt it professionally.
I have failed 3 times in ba. Now preparing for upsc 2024. I will succeed
if we really need to change the way we need to accept students from non branded institutions in Jobs.That only can fill the gap in the education university.
Feed people that
"The more you put into teachers, schools, and students,
the more the schools will earn (increasing one's real estate and quality of neighbors)."
Good debate. I think, marks as for cut off should never be criteria. The cut off system deprives someone from taking part in education system. A standard should be set for any college/ course and meritorious selection based on comprehensive analysis of entrant should be followed.
However, to have this system in place, a brilliant and honest uncorrupt system with more or large institutions will be required.
Eg. If I have not studied in any formal school but I know science, or have studied from state boards and my marks are not near 100%, but I still know science, why should be marks a criteria for me to be eligible of filling the application form of IIT/any college.
Full capacity might be based on how early the student applies as well.
Because professional schools claim that, "If interviewers go through you before more qualified applicants, they could have accepted you before all the seats are filled."
In pure academic sense high Mark will lead to your specialised goal in turn good career and good earning etc.
Another idea is
"grades = the higher they are, the less painful the punch."
Anchor -8 times or 9 times you failed ?
Suhel seth-12 times,but you broke my record 😂..That's what we call sudden reply cleverly 😅
If I can ask a question, how will online education help in scoring more percentages. Pros and Cons.
@Zizey yuck
Finance even leads to people teaching.
I don't think "umbrella terms" are that "automatically evil."
They are failing to evaluate the learning outcome and india education system needs a new metric to evaluate the skills and abilities to be capable of entering labor force
Well yes depends on the exam and what you consider as success
If someone pushes oneself to apply for five majors,
I will evaluate the applicant's reason behind his/her goals.
I really dont get this debate... The education system at any time is designed to support the economy. Its a large factory to produce necessary skills to keep the industrialized world going. Its all nice to say dont look at marks but I think it is asking for too much to spend effort on holistic analysis of an individual. There has to a first level filtering mechanism to manage inflow... design better testing systems pre-flitering is the answer
Glad you said this. I was hoping someone would point this out that the whole of education system is made to keep the industrialized world running. I have a friend from Pakistan who said that Indian education system is based on the 1900s curriculum which was meant to bring out the industrialists. Not to say there education system is any good, as even there the rat race goes on, as it does in other parts of the world. I agree with a comment above that maybe we must educate ourselves on our own by reading books, meeting people and so on, in that way, maybe we won't waste much of the time learning what we don't want to, or maybe we would end up learning much more than schools could ever make us ratofy, simply because we'd be doing so with our own interests. I remember I had huge interest in History, Maths and all and I read Science books as a child and all this was apart from my formal education when I was little. I was literally a genius, which now I realize, but with passing years I focused on marks as told by parents and was a bright student too, but then I started losing interests in everything else. I am a writer now and I love English but I feel I would still be interested in everything else had this education system not made me deliberately read all that. I still read about science and cosmos and all but back then it was way beyond how I do it now. I hope now I do this as I have left formal education and decided to be back on that track I unknowingly left in my childhood. :)
This is very true. When you have millions of graduates every year and million more aspiring to be graduates very soon, one needs to rely on a 'one glove fits all' policy (at least to a certain extent). Of course there's also a need for holistic education system which is currently inaccessible to the common man because of the unusually high costs of such an education. Education should at least focus on equipping the responsible citizens of the future with skills that serve the needs of the current state of the society.
If there are competitions,
Mesa CC students will make moms look like superstars.
all above 90 % no noble prize. ha ha . earlier gen of 50 % marks more brilliant. feel sorry for those with 99 % marks. comedy at its WORST.
especially cbse,ISC is LOL!, in CBSE everyone is getting free marks and tons of them scoring 99%
why there is any cutoff marks for taking admission in the colleges...? at least education should be for all....
I think there's a logic behind cutoff see there are large number of students who dont know there own competence.(due to the fact that they are very young and not every student have a good mentor) if a 50 to 55 %(average academic) student wants to be a doctor or CA just for earning loads of money and he enters a particular institution he will never be able to pass out. his 4 to 5 years will be wasted.(personally i have seen such examples). So the cutoff makes clear what kind of coures can a student complete
IS SUHEL SETH SINGLE OR MARRIED. HE SPEAKS WELL IN PUBLIC.
Mino Patel great correlation there
For the last 5 years, I have not seen NDTV and Vikram Chandra - I think NDTV is closed down - I am not sure - India is not run by that 99% marks people - India is run by - AMBATHUR Industries, Coibature Motors-- Morbis Clocks -- Tirupur Textiles -- Jalandhar's Design Engines -- PUNE and BANGALORE IT people -- Orissa and Jarkhand Mining industries ..... Moradabad Pittal --- These talkative Delhi people are fed by the hard-working rest of India
Marksheet not judge a personality of any aspirant so government conduct a interance for qualify different government exams we see many cases they got only 60 percent marks in intermediate but they become a ias or many exams crack by own potential as we know that 99 perfect candidate are wanderer
bring those IIM deans also. IIM takes so much acads while shortlisting for MBA
ok there is a solution please tell CBSE to stop providing that high marks and let them check fairly, ask other stateboards to follow same process. No one will run behind marks anymore, stop providing 100/100 to all students. and for admission introduce entrance exams for admission. Stop these 95 hype you fools.
Come on guys start saying this is all because of modi
Anchor ,s English pronunciation is not good
Anyone who wants to learn just needs to go a library and needs the internet.. Learn from the internet, from books, libraries and so on for free. Stop competing so hard and paying so much for degrees and schools.
This is a disease that has spread throughout the world and it's worst in populated countries like those in Asia.. Extreme competition. Characterised by life based around studying, school, university, marks.. Shit life quality as a young person. Lots of exams/assignments, studying and so on. No time to question anything and think critically or live and enjoy life. Creativity and passion squashed and employees pumped out of the schools/universities..
Stop competing for resources and collaborate.. As long as everyone is competing the (rat) race continues..
This from the country where Buddha and many intelligent/wise people came from and with such a long, esteemed history.. Sad to see. Perhaps could learn from Finland and other education systems that are thinking of wellbeing of the children..
But dude it is about job
That's fascinating.
Reminds me of Korean dramas praising females winning over clients with money and thinking of new products.
Teach 200 students in one room, there is no improvement.
Customised study should be deemed for the students, govt should help increase teacher salary.
Just discussing in English won't help, hindi is known to most.
Ashoka University becoming most prestigious university? Haha ... Exposes NDTVs hypocrisy
One piece of paper can't decide your future ...
Anchor is completely uneducated person. He himself is sitting and guests are standing.
😂😂😂😂