Another one of the biggest advantages to the variable speed "max" trolling motor is at lower speeds it pulses the motor to get the lesser speed where the standard 5 speed motor uses resistors to slow down the motor. The pulsing motor at less than full speed draws less battery juice hence giving you a longer run time with your battery while the 5 speed motor is still drawing the same power at even its lower speeds and the extra energy not needed is just basically thrown away as heat by the resistors. Lead acid batteries for longevity should not be drawn down below about 50% of their rated capacity before you start causing damage to the battery which will show as lessened capacity going forward. Lipo 4 batteries can be discharged down to 100% of its capacity without shortening its run times. But as you drain the Lipo 4 down that far you do shorten the amount of charging cycles before it craps out but again even doing so every day the battery will last long past its warranty period which for many can be as long as 10 years. Most it seems to recommend on a regular basis to not draw down a lipo4 but about 80% for great performance and cell/battery longevity. Also remember you cannot charge a Lipo battery below 32 degrees F. So to use the batteries without causing damage a 100 amp hour Lipo battery will replace the capacity of 2 100 amp hour wet cell lead acid batteries, well worth the additional cost. These days there are decently performing brands of Lipo 4 100AH batteries that can be bought in the mid $200 ranges.
That's incredible info, thank you! Yah I drew my lead acid one down to 0% A LOT, I think that's why I started noticing myself dying earlier and earlier each trip. I'm still running the battery in this video and going strong!
Love all the upgrades! I think lithium batteries will definitely be the way to go when I need some new ones. But most of all, what an amazing day of fishing! I wish I could find Perch that size. Another great video.
Hey again thanks for all your help again. Should I use the marine sealant around the edges of the hull? One video a guy had said water might get in where the 2 hulls are attached. Thanks Again👍
There’s a chance the water gets in from there, but as of now I haven’t messed with that area too much. Ive heard the sealing on the prowlers is weak so it wouldn’t hurt to seal some up in there!
@humbugvideos ya I need to do some similar stuff that you did to yours and your right about evey pound matter Especially because I never go out by myself.
I’ve thought about that actually, I honestly don’t see why not. The original sealant from mine is kinda oozing out so it would be nice to reseal that thing in from water
Ohh I am definitely getting sone of that sealant, I am getting water inside my hull, probably from the drill holes of my sonar mount, any suggestions on how to get that water out??
Would your friend be willing to make some more of those metal pieces to sell? I'm getting my Sundolphin 8 ft boat registered in the next couple weeks and that would be an awesome addition. Same with the rutter.
@@humbugvideos It's sad because you can' get kayak accessories all day online but trying to get stuff for these small boats is a pain. Love the videos. Just clicking subscribe now. If you decide to pump out a rutter or two to sell, just let me know
@@jodyboggs7248 I had a lead acid 9ah on this, but since then have upgraded to a 30 ah lithium by Amped Outdoors. 100% recommend making the switch, I also have their large 100+ ah for my trolling motor and it’s great too
I'm having a hard time mounting a scotty arm transducer . I have a pond prowler 10 and can't seem to find a spot with all of the angles on it and have it long enough to reach the water . Any advice ? Thanks .
Do you have any issues with flex with your motor up front? I just bought my first angler 10 and I got a 50lb today as I’m figuring out things to add before it take it out on the water. I don’t want to the bow to flex out and cause problems. Any advice would be great. Awesome vid btw!
With your new trolling motor what speed do you use! I’m thinking about going lithium too but don’t want to go 100+ cause of cost. I have a 50 lb thrust motor but don’t think I’ll be using full speed unless I have too.
Full speed is around 3-4 mph depending on the amount of gear packed for the day. Typically while trolling I run from 1.1-1.8 and can go all day no issues. Just get an 80 or 100 AH and you’ll never look back!
I have your set up, only with an older 45 lb Minn Kota Traxxis. I have limited knowledge on electrical systems, but thought a 40 amp breaker would be more than I would need. I am just about ready to install it. What make you decide on a 50? Should I return mine to Amazon and buy the 50? Thanks...
A friend of mine told me to run the 50, and he's pretty knowledgeable with electrical boat parts so I took his word for it. As of now that's the only reason why I picked it lol
Thanks for that prompt reply. Again, I enjoy you videos and enthusiasm. I found an interesting Minn Kota table which I will paste at the end. I have a 45 lbs Traxxis (more efficient mtr) and have been concerned about the apparent light gauge of the Sun Dolphin 8' transom to bow wiring. I found that the manufacturer says it is 10 gauge and that is sufficient for as much as a 45 lb motor at a distance up to 10 feet. Everywhere else that I look indicate an minimum of 8 gauge at 10 feet and 6 gauge over longer distances. But, this would be for full-out/draw over time. Note the thickness of the wires coming off your motor vs the boat wires. You and I troll mostly at 1 to 2 mph with far less than a full draw for most of the day. Going back to the barn might be full draw at 3 to 3.5 mph for maybe a half hour. So, it looks to be close, but OK. This is just an FYI. minnkota.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/support/trolling-motor-installation-guides/trolling-motor-wiring-and-battery-guide Your videos would be even more interesting if you always mentioned the lake you were on and info on best launch and retrieval spots on that body of water. Bruce
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@@FishingDrummer70 Woah, that’s super smart! I’ll check that out, thank you
Really Appreciate these videos! Great Job!! You wre them fish out 😁👍👍
Another one of the biggest advantages to the variable speed "max" trolling motor is at lower speeds it pulses the motor to get the lesser speed where the standard 5 speed motor uses resistors to slow down the motor.
The pulsing motor at less than full speed draws less battery juice hence giving you a longer run time with your battery while the 5 speed motor is still drawing the same power at even its lower speeds and the extra energy not needed is just basically thrown away as heat by the resistors.
Lead acid batteries for longevity should not be drawn down below about 50% of their rated capacity before you start causing damage to the battery which will show as lessened capacity going forward.
Lipo 4 batteries can be discharged down to 100% of its capacity without shortening its run times.
But as you drain the Lipo 4 down that far you do shorten the amount of charging cycles before it craps out but again even doing so every day the battery will last long past its warranty period which for many can be as long as 10 years.
Most it seems to recommend on a regular basis to not draw down a lipo4 but about 80% for great performance and cell/battery longevity.
Also remember you cannot charge a Lipo battery below 32 degrees F.
So to use the batteries without causing damage a 100 amp hour Lipo battery will replace the capacity of 2 100 amp hour wet cell lead acid batteries, well worth the additional cost.
These days there are decently performing brands of Lipo 4 100AH batteries that can be bought in the mid $200 ranges.
That's incredible info, thank you! Yah I drew my lead acid one down to 0% A LOT, I think that's why I started noticing myself dying earlier and earlier each trip. I'm still running the battery in this video and going strong!
Always love seeing smallies reeled in
I need this setup! We have a bunch of great kokanee lakes here in Cali and that would be a killer rig. Keep up the great content!
Great video!
Love all the upgrades! I think lithium batteries will definitely be the way to go when I need some new ones. But most of all, what an amazing day of fishing! I wish I could find Perch that size. Another great video.
Appreciate the love! Make that switch, you won't regret it!
Ryan trahan’s older brother who fishes 😂😂😂 loved the video tho bro great job
Dude I’ve got that MULTIPLE times now! Lol
I like all the boat vids AWESOME!! Man that was a BIG Smallie!
About to get a pond prowler 10, excited to start modding it
you should do a review on the troll kind foot pedal for the trolling motor been thinking of getting one myself
Been thinking about getting it, not a lot of space on the boat tho. Love the username lol
Do you have the sticky rubber on the back bottom of your boat for dragging if you have to drag?? If yes where you get it ??
Hey again thanks for all your help again. Should I use the marine sealant around the edges of the hull? One video a guy had said water might get in where the 2 hulls are attached. Thanks Again👍
There’s a chance the water gets in from there, but as of now I haven’t messed with that area too much. Ive heard the sealing on the prowlers is weak so it wouldn’t hurt to seal some up in there!
I started with lithium battery and its amazing and I can stay on the water all day and like 2 to 3 more days with our reaching it
Such a gamechanger...I don't know why I didn't do it sooner
Man that small mouth I just finished the video haha
@humbugvideos ya I need to do some similar stuff that you did to yours and your right about evey pound matter Especially because I never go out by myself.
Wondering if you could use that sealant for the seam where the two halves of the boat come together?
I’ve thought about that actually, I honestly don’t see why not. The original sealant from mine is kinda oozing out so it would be nice to reseal that thing in from water
Ohh I am definitely getting sone of that sealant, I am getting water inside my hull, probably from the drill holes of my sonar mount, any suggestions on how to get that water out??
I'm honestly not sure on the water, I believe there's a video online of a guy installing new foam. That sealant rocks!
Yea it does suck to walk to shore from the middle of the lake..lol
Would your friend be willing to make some more of those metal pieces to sell? I'm getting my Sundolphin 8 ft boat registered in the next couple weeks and that would be an awesome addition. Same with the rutter.
Unfortunately no because they were borrowing some tools to do it. I’m thinking about the rudder tho!
@@humbugvideos It's sad because you can' get kayak accessories all day online but trying to get stuff for these small boats is a pain. Love the videos. Just clicking subscribe now. If you decide to pump out a rutter or two to sell, just let me know
How did you mount that motor to the front of the boat? Did you have to do something custom to do a bow mount on it?
@@adamjohnson9014 Nope, these boats come with a spot to mount in the front or back
What battery is running you fish finder and fitting in ur ammo box
@@jodyboggs7248 I had a lead acid 9ah on this, but since then have upgraded to a 30 ah lithium by Amped Outdoors. 100% recommend making the switch, I also have their large 100+ ah for my trolling motor and it’s great too
I'm having a hard time mounting a scotty arm transducer . I have a pond prowler 10 and can't seem to find a spot with all of the angles on it and have it long enough to reach the water . Any advice ? Thanks .
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BTW I DID order through Your link on Amazon......😬
Thank you! Appreciate it
Do you have any issues with flex with your motor up front? I just bought my first angler 10 and I got a 50lb today as I’m figuring out things to add before it take it out on the water. I don’t want to the bow to flex out and cause problems. Any advice would be great. Awesome vid btw!
I haven't yet, but make sure to really tighten that motor down cause it pulls hard!
What boat dock to u put in normally on cascade?
All depends on where the fish are! Van wyck, sugarloaf, poison creek, etc
You could use abs instead of pvc next time. Its already black
Have you tried the bullnose rudder for the trolling motor?
I LITERALLY HAVE ONE IN THE MAIL RIGHT NOW HOW DO U KNOW THIS
@@humbugvideos LOL that's great. I saw your rudder setup and that was what first came to mind.
With your new trolling motor what speed do you use! I’m thinking about going lithium too but don’t want to go 100+ cause of cost. I have a 50 lb thrust motor but don’t think I’ll be using full speed unless I have too.
Full speed is around 3-4 mph depending on the amount of gear packed for the day. Typically while trolling I run from 1.1-1.8 and can go all day no issues. Just get an 80 or 100 AH and you’ll never look back!
I have your set up, only with an older 45 lb Minn Kota Traxxis. I have limited knowledge on electrical systems, but thought a 40 amp breaker would be more than I would need. I am just about ready to install it. What make you decide on a 50? Should I return mine to Amazon and buy the 50? Thanks...
A friend of mine told me to run the 50, and he's pretty knowledgeable with electrical boat parts so I took his word for it. As of now that's the only reason why I picked it lol
Thanks for that prompt reply. Again, I enjoy you videos and enthusiasm. I found an interesting Minn Kota table which I will paste at the end. I have a 45 lbs Traxxis (more efficient mtr) and have been concerned about the apparent light gauge of the Sun Dolphin 8' transom to bow wiring. I found that the manufacturer says it is 10 gauge and that is sufficient for as much as a 45 lb motor at a distance up to 10 feet. Everywhere else that I look indicate an minimum of 8 gauge at 10 feet and 6 gauge over longer distances. But, this would be for full-out/draw over time. Note the thickness of the wires coming off your motor vs the boat wires.
You and I troll mostly at 1 to 2 mph with far less than a full draw for most of the day. Going back to the barn might be full draw at 3 to 3.5 mph for maybe a half hour. So, it looks to be close, but OK. This is just an FYI. minnkota.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/support/trolling-motor-installation-guides/trolling-motor-wiring-and-battery-guide
Your videos would be even more interesting if you always mentioned the lake you were on and info on best launch and retrieval spots on that body of water. Bruce
@@NevadaScrubJay I’ll check out that link, thank you!
What lure are you using?
@@rawcutfishing Rapala JSR-05 in fire tiger
@@humbugvideos ok awesome gotta look that one up lol
who's boat in driveway? and....sick smallie battle....im guessing 3.2to3.5lbs, 18inch?
That WAS our bass boat which was sold two days ago...lol. Just weren't using it much
Our? There's now a team humbug?!
@@jonu.8073 My dad! He's been known to feature in a humbug video from time to time :)
Circuit breaker link?
Just added it to the gear list in the bio. Lemme know if you have any other questions!
@@humbugvideosdoes the amperage on the breaker matter
@@slliks67 I had a friend who is good with marine stuff tell me to get the 50 so that’s what I went with. That’s all I know!
@@humbugvideos thanks for all the replies... i have a 100 ah battery so i reckon 50 would be good for me as well
2.75 lbs🙂