Ivy League Professor Who Uses Heroin Regularly Wants to Prove Most Drug Users Are Not Poor
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Carl Hart is a neuroscience and psychology professor at Columbia University. Recently, the 54-year-old father made headlines when he admitted that he uses heroin on a regular basis. Carl stops by to clear the air about his drug use and tells us about his controversial new book, “Drug Use for Grown-ups: Chasing Liberty in the Land of Fear.” Plus, he opens up about how he’s using icon Prince’s fentanyl overdose as a cautionary tale to save lives.
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Growing up around grown ups drugs that were drug addicts made me never want to be around any drugs not even prescribed.
Same.
You have to break the generational curse because I'm the same way!!!!!
Crazy how everyone responds differently. Some people get scared into sobriety some just don’t care at all cuz they been around it their entire lives they don’t all develop that fear.
Good for you… so you’re saying that you are better than me?
Yikes. I’m so sorry.
As a former addict I can say there is a very thin line that can be easily & unknowingly crossed that takes you from a functional recreational user to a disfunctional addict. I was a functional user for over a decade & few knew. Self control & impulse are different for different ppl.
Its such a thin line, if they legalized stuff like opium and cocaine it would kill off the cartels and since it would be very obtainable for the population it could be more controlled, safer, less stigmatized, and just overall better for society, less crime and more freedom. And with no more stigma itd be much easier to prevent or end addiction issues
Okay so you're speaking for yourself :) Good to know yourself.
@@sassythesasquatch8036 I’m so tired of this line of thinking, like it’s some enlightened understanding of drugs. Sure it will solve some problems like organized crime, but it will make other problems worse. Look at the places that have stopped policing drugs and addicts. San Francisco, Portland, Seattle and Vancouver have all relaxed their laws and stopped arresting people. The homeless population is worse, there are more addicts everywhere. The rates of overdoses is higher. You think because the government supplies the heroin that people won’t still be overdosing? You think people won’t still have money problems and will rob and steal for it? lol. Heroin is not designed to be used recreationally without problems. There are writings that go all the way back to Ancient Greece and Rome that opium is better left alone because you will become a slave to it. Is everyone’s experience going back 2000 years wrong? I used to think like you until I was exposed to it and became an addict. I run into 20 year olds who thought cigarettes are more addictive and they’ve tried opiates a dozen times and didn’t get hooked. Then I see them years later and they’re addicts. Why is there so much evidence in one direction and very little in the other direction? Is it a conspiracy? lol. 😂
Same here I was cool with pills for over 20 years and then the govt decided to take them away and within 6 months I was using H and lost everything smh.
Well said . It’s not hard to walk that thin line with no issues. It’s all about will and self control. Sorry no drug is stronger than me!
I've been affected by the opioid epidemic personally and the biggest issue that heroin addicts face is the lack of supply of clean heroin. It's all stepped on and filled with deadly substitutes to make it last longer for the dealer. If it was fda regulated the deaths would go down.
Exactly right
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS!!!!!!
Really makes you think about population control
@@dominiquedoeslifeit is true however addiction would still be a problem.
@@Markerface You might be interested in the Swiss 4 pillar model.
Advocating for peoples freedom of choice is not encouraging people to do drugs, he’s not saying “you should do heroin” he’s saying we should have the freedom to do heroin if we do choose and it should be safe and not judged, that is not a crazy thing at all. People who vilify drug users do not understand much about drug use nor are they any sort of moral paragon
1. The reason human beings judge is because we know what is right and what is wrong.
2. Drug abuse is usually an escape for underlying problems. The problems should be resolved first. However,
3. Drugs are NOT good. Regardless of the emotional pain and tribulations a person experiences, drugs just make everything WORSE.
Societies must judge drugs and do everything they can to get rid of them.
@@ambitiousmuslimrecordings3451Facts
@@ambitiousmuslimrecordings3451So if I judge you because you’re blavk, you’re saying that has to do with right and wrong. Go to sleep! SMDH!
@@ambitiousmuslimrecordings34512. I use it to enjance my life.
3. I am patient.
@@ambitiousmuslimrecordings3451its called recreational use
we are clearly not ready to have a real honest conversation about drugs because each valid point this professor is trying to make the media wants to ignore. We need to be honest about who really uses drugs, stop using it as a weapon to criminalize a certain minority group of people to use as a weapon against them, and be honest about how the drug companies may not be honest with the public about what is really in these drugs and how harmful they actually are.
I agree but leveling the criminal punishment for those who use drugs so that black people aren't disproportionately affected is not the same as saying it's ok to use heroin on a recreational basis. The war on drugs was unfair because blacks were punished more than whites but this man is also encouraging drug use. The two are not the same.
The only point he's making is that there are far more people injesting harmful drugs and alcohol causing accelerated death that we realize. Being a functioning alcoholic isn't any better than being a functioning heroine addict for the body, forget the societal stigma. And if all of this casual drug use and alcohol use is due to unchecked stress and lifestyle problems then this conversation isn't going to help anything anyway.
@@Lodeenie Your last point is so very well stated. I just think that I'll always view heroin as being more harmful to the body than alcohol. One shot of whiskey probably won't kill you but one shot of heroin might. Also, sharing needles if ones heroin use escalates to injecting can lead to some serious health issues that could also affect others, i.e, HIV/AIDS can come from needle sharing and that can be passed along to someone who doesn't drink or do drugs. You can't pass much of anything along from alcohol use.
@@glw5166 totally agree.
@@glw5166 have we not seen the effects of drug use on people? I mean I wonder what y’all are thinking when you comment on stuff like this. He knows damn well he doesn’t have to smoke this shit everyday to complete his study. He might be the exception, but he’s talking about saving lives and his dumb ass isn’t even saving his own life. What kind of example is this to his kids? Hell, even weed effects some people and I’ve seen this firsthand
YALL I SCREAMED WHAT IS THISSSS
Its insanity
A very smart and successful Ivy League doctor who uses heroin
Most noble workers use drugs because they have a stable life where they don't need to depend on them and can actually just enjoy them.
The issue is for the regular folks in middle and low class that buy from the streets and have ongoing issues day to day, then it's easy to fall in the trap.
It's only in the modern world where we have "banned" drugs, because people have used them since the start of mankind, from the greatest philosophers like Plato to almost all kings of the ancient world.
Insanity and foolishness
@@BriaBarrows Ok... like the views on drugs of today arent insanity and foolishness, you can't turn an eye to something that's there, drugs will never cease to exist so we have to work with it to create a safer world, banning is just outrageous because it forces people to go out their ways and risk their lives with black markets.
The way yall talk about it in the comments is like yall think we can eliminate drugs, honey the world is made out of drugs, every civilization since the start of mankind has used and they will continue until the end.
Rather understand it than to let people run headless.
All I can say is that Tamron is an excellent skilled interviewer. A real one.
Facts
Right so professional
Agreed. I’ve always felt like she was underrated
i love the questions she asks!!!
She really is
I’ve personally seen md, surgeons, and nurses using drugs
I also have seen middle class and rich class addicted prescription drugs
Especially teenagers
Nothing
Did I say it was positive❓Nope
Have a great day
I dont condone using street drugs, however, he has a point. Even Psychedelics are on the stock market now
Im putting all my money in Weed And 🍄 stocks🤣
You dont condone , I hydrocondone
I get what he’s saying... he’s trying to save lives by filtering the drugs, not by taking people off of them. People are going to do drugs anyway, so he’s saying why not make the drugs safer.
Ironically enough, a lot of people are gonna end up LOSING their lives as a result of his irresponsible, reckless advocating of heroin use. I can see where he's coming from in regards to wanting drugs to be decriminalized, but the way he downplays the dangers of recreational substances and openly encourages it is just wrong and unethical. If someone does in fact, have their life ruined as a result of doing heroin after reading his book, this guy needs to acknowledge and own up to it.
Read the book. That's all there is to it. He is unquestionably one of the leading minds in the field and has science to back up his argument, not just the anecdotal evidence of his own experience. This is important for all Americans, all people, but especially people in demographics that have been disproportionately impacted by the "war on drugs" aka "War on Marginalized People".
Well said. I won’t read the book but that’s the only way we can have a real conversation with him.
Drugs are often an escape. If black people were to start using a hard core drug on a recreational basis, it would not help the black community. Most would become addicted and then the crime wave would start to support the habit. There is a reason that heroin is listed a hard core addictive narcotic. Honestly, I don't know for a fact that this man is not addicted. Do we know how much he's really using on a daily basis? Watch this space.
@@glw5166 Well the only reason he can live normally is because he gets his heroin lab made 100% pure wich does not exist close at all on the streets where the regular joe gets his from.
His point being legalize it so people that use can get what they actually intended to get and not a mix of products from a greedy seller who's main focus is money.
@@glw5166 Damn. You actually said that. 😳
@@mackm3875 Yeah I did and I am speaking from experience. This man is a functioning addict with a good job - for now anyway. If his tolerance level keeps increasing he’ll be singing a different song. Of course he won’t share that experience with us but ain’t no way you can use heroin on a recreational basis. He’ll just keep telling himself that he has everything under control.
I’ve seen up close the effects of drugs people of all walks of lives. I had the unfortunate luck of working on the baby unit of the babies born addicted to drugs. I’ve also seen people from very privileged backgrounds selling their derrière for drugs in the most unsavory neighborhoods. I think I’ll pass on that. I prefer yoga, acupuncture, meditation to relax, it is a lot cheaper and doesn’t require more and more amounts to feel “good.” Also people are dying because they build up tolerance and need larger and larger amounts or harder drugs to feel “good”
The voice of reason has spoken!!!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 I thought I was losing my mind
🎯 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 thankyou!
People aren't dying because they are getting a higher tolerance, that doesn't make sense, people are dying because they don't know the amount they are putting in their body and end up putting way more than their tolerance can handle resulting in death. If people knew what and the amount they are putting in their body there wouldn't be any overdoses
And the effects of drugs you are talking about when it comes to people selling themselves isn't an effect of the drug itself, it's because drugs cost so much.
Nope the CDC says they are dying from tainted drugs not the drugs themselves. Percocet and heroin are the same drug. People get percocet from the corner drug store without problem. By 2030 half of america will be prediabetic should we ban the addictive substance sugar?
Now I understand and see his view. He’s speaking the truth
Amen sister he defiantly speaking the truth
I'm actually in complete shocked that he actually admitted that he uses drugs on a regular basis 😳
Right?!?!😑😯😐 He looks good at the same time and also the fact that he’s an successful professor, and even married father of three...
@@michaeld.williamsiii9026 Wel because he uses pure lab made heroin not street heroin.
Look up Opium, super close to heroin, most kings, most philisophers and so on of the ancient world used drugs.
It's our modern world and the illegal market that has turned drugs into chaos.
If the pure form of drugs where available for those that want we would not have the issues we have and with all the money left over from ending the war on drugs we could actually develop a working rehabilitation for those that encounter issues because remember,
the reason he is using it without issues is because his life is in place. A person in poverty, with issues or other things might seek to the drug for escape and fall into the trap of self destruction.
Most users are noble workers, bankers, doctors, professors, fine art artists and so on, they thrive because they don't need it to function, they simply enjoy it like a glass of wine at dinner.
Me too.
He’s not a drug addict! He uses them responsibly. Our own brains have these drug receptors. Most of us just don’t know how to tap into those receptors to release them.
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
He’s an exception but we know that this is not for the average person, the biology has not changed on how drugs can destroy a nation. #get real
Amen. I especially find this especially disturbing and reckless given the effect that the crack epidemic had on black communities.
It’s less about biology and more about psychology in his theory. It’s truly fascinating. He asserts that the issues that cause addiction is less due to the drugs and more due to existing traumas and interpersonal challenges. Which due to that he urges that America get real on addressing the oppression that POC and poor people face. From his research in labs giving ppl copious amounts of drugs (safely) he noticed that ppl didn’t get addicted..
Addiction comes when a person’s normal life is such a challenge that the drugs are used as a continuous escape v a fun time. So how does America reduce addiction? Not get rid of drugs necessarily, but increase minimum wage, address systemic oppression, etc etc.
We also don't know if he is the exception. I don't know him. I don't know how often he's getting a fix throughout the day. The mouth can say anything but behavior don't lie. Who knows how much heroin he uses daily - or if he would ever be honest about it? Now that being said, perhaps he is the exception but we really have no way of confirming that as his words are not enough.
@@SarahR2D2 and Heroin. It destroyed neighborhoods and lives way before crack.
Thank you for your common sense. He’s a damn fool
He's an addict who is justifying his addiction. He's been turned over to a reprobate mind and is attempting to deceive those without discernment. Misery likes company and the devil is a liar.
Amen
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That is false. It's just your perception that make you think that, he has hands on the pure product wich regular people don't have, he has a stable life wich most low/middle class people struggle with and that's when it's easy on become dependent.
A drug is just like a glass of wine, you can use it to enjoy it and move on.
Reprobate mind? We getting biblical in the comments ? Lol 😂
@Marilyn Cowan AGREE
He may have points about the stereotypes & lack of knowledge with drug use; however, only someone addicted to heroin would try to make an argument that it’s ok to regularly do drugs like heroin. Being healthy isn’t just about eating healthy or exercising. What he is speaking of is not healthy.
Sure but the point is people will never stop using drugs, they have since the start of mankind and will until the end.
What we do to make it easier for those that consume is make it possible for them to buy whatever they went from the lab and 100% pure instead of gambling with street product.
This way we can put money into real rehabilitation for people with issues and expand knowledge for future generations.
It's here so instead of acting blind and try to ban it we have to acknowledge it and live with it.
@@auguste573 we have to exercise self control and leave it alone find something else to numb what’s broken or better yet work on fixing it instead of running away for a few minutes only to keep coming back for more minutes
@@winniejohnson5559 That's the problem, you think people only use drugs to "escape" drugs have been part of religions, art and so much more, it can be used as an enhancer or just simply something to enjoy not so much thought behind it and YES we can only achieve that through self discipline, drugs are not only heroin and cocaine just to make that clear we have psychedelics all the way to opioids.
@@winniejohnson5559 Your mentality is the Anglo Saxon and limit of freedom mentality, it's gray, it's pale, it lives between walls, you have never left your comfort zone i can tell, you undervalue what life is, life is not your day to day tasks. Very Holy Roman Empire Priest Control mentality, and even if you were religious to any extend i respect that but you have to think further than that when it comes to the entire world, if it's wrong or bad moraly that's up to the individual.
In a world full of drugs the people can decide to not use BUT in a world without drugs the user people choose, let that sink in.
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
I believe most drug users are not poor.i just disagree we need to encourage "functioning drug users"
I think that's the thing. I think the point he is making that those addicts are also becoming addicts because the drugs are usually cut with something else they aren't solely just heroin.
We need to end racism and poverty and stay out of what grown folks put in their because it's none of our business agreed?
@@onenone3209 disagree. We have laws for a reason. It starts with grown folks then as soon as we legalize all of a sudden it's crisis in our children as pushers try to get more customers. And fun fact, legalizing heroin and Crack is definitely not gonna end poverty.
@@mommolette3607 So now that certain drugs are illegal drug dealers don't deal to kids? The opposite is true. When drugs are regulated drug use among youth goes down.
@@mommolette3607 Regulating drugs would help end poverty. The 1994 drug war bill moved money out of education, housing, jobs and healthcare into cops and prisons that money could be used to end poverty along with the tax money from sales. Percocet and heroin are the same drug the majority of people take it without problem. Doctors give children adderall which is meth everyday. The war on drugs was created by open racist it has nothing to do with health or safety . Google harry anslinger he was a government official and racist. His job was alcohol prohibition once that ended he need a new job the war on drugs. All drug laws are racist google it.
I mean Demi lovato almost died from it. She had strokes and a heart attack. He also has kids. It’s selfish and reckless
And she still admitted that she’s not been clean
She likely almost died for the exact reason he is doing this, the lack of education on how much to use and what was in what she used. You are proving his point with your close mindedness
@@Epinaj whatever
@@Epinaj Addicts are pretty reckless and they are not thinking clearly. Do you really think an addict that needs a fix is going to think “safety first” and make sure their dosage is correct. They don’t have time for all of that. I hate to see what shape this guy will be in 10 years from now.
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
I can see where he is coming from. & i Agree with him. Listen without Judgment.
Alot of these drugs were used/prescribed initially for medical purposes....
I agree with him, I know many drug users who don't look the part. Only use drugs a few times per month and lead productive and fulfilling lives. However, people who use drugs to self medicate cannot use in moderation and it ruins their lives. Unfortunately I fall into the latter category. Although I've never been arrested, never been homeless, have a masters degree and a career I have lost many opportunities and relationships due to my addictions. I'm in my late 30s and for some inexplicable reason look like I'm in my 20s despite myriad addictions going back to my teens. Once your a member of the club it's a lifelong struggle to get out.
Wish we could meet
I hope he keeps that same energy when his kids start experimenting with drugs and become addicts
this is an ignorant comment. it’s like assuming that your kids will fall victim of teen pregnancies, of course it’s possible if you don’t teach them how to have safe sex (condom, contraceptives, etc) and he never advocates for anybody to use drugs, he’s explaining how the illegality of drugs is exploited to target and incriminate black and other minority communities. keep in mind he’s studies at Yale and is a professor at Columbia University with over 25 years of experience in Neuropsycopharmacology, so for you to assume the worst just proves his point of the stigmatization of drugs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@andresnovoa6746 girl I said what I said.
@@michellecruse7763 well what you said is incredibly assuming and disrespectful, but go off sis. I don’t think you’re considering that if somebody said the same about your kids (if you have any) you’d probably be insulted. Anyways i’m defending this good man’s name and work from being slandered by people who probably haven’t even read his book and the world-wide academic evidence he includes. Have a blessed day, i said what i said.
@@andresnovoa6746 thanks for the paragraph that I didn’t read...
@@andresnovoa6746 The guy's literally once said that he fears his kids getting into confrontations with the police more than the consequences of them experimenting with hard drugs. Great dad, huh? Teaching his kids to develop an instilled fear and hatred of the police at a young age, while also severely downplaying the risks and hazards that come from using recreational substances. There's no doubt in my mind that with this kind of parenting, at least one of his kids is gonna grow up to be an addict or a felon (or both). Can't wait to see him whine about "racism" when that happens.
Illicit drug use is no more harmful than illicit food consumption, exercising or sexuality. All can be safe, when used correctly and in moderation. Vices become vices when we lose control of our use...
This man is being completely transparent and people are still choosing to ignore his valid points.
Valid points from an extra high person, yeah.
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Its okay. They dont matter.
@@giulia2098 you just proved her right by being totally dismissive because of internal bias.
He's just using an excuse to use drugs and wants it legalized. Why would anyone need to use drugs as another tool to balance his life? I'm not buying it.
He is a functional user. Okay, he has a job.
@@qtypie7283 Oregon State has legalized ALL drugs, primarily b/c white soccer moms were being charged with possession and use of the drug. You see, Dr. Hart is talking about how the white supremacist SYSTEM is targeting poor Black people, but the primary users are middle class whites. You and others are focusing on morals that white supremacy GAVE Black people to follow but they are not following them
@@nwinthehouse9337I get all of that. Still doesn't change how I feel. Should I buy what he says just because he's black and I'm black? No to me it looks like he's trying to make excuses to use drugs.
@@qtypie7283 There are many "functional" addicts. Doesn't mean I accept that it's okay. Not at all. I stand by how I feel no matter what anyone says. Period the whole thing sounds ridiculous
@@CeeJay611 Nut you should include CRITICAL THINKING ( look it up ) in your thought process.
His statement that the drug war has targeted the poor and minority communities is true but advocating for drug use is crazy. I am embarrassed as a Black person to hear someone who is supposedly so intelligent speak as if doing drugs is harmless. Smh.
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
A loved one died of a overdose and I’m still sad about it. Not sure I can grasp his concept.
If your love one was getting drugs from a pharmacy under doctors supervision they would be alive is what he is telling you. When users get it from medical professionals it's safe and they get check ups and other help if they choose. When they are on the streets it's most dangerous. Saying no to drugs is like saying no to SEX not going to happen let's make it as safe as possible.🙏 Sorry about the loss of your love one.
I’m sorry for your loss. The best way to stop this from happening to others, is to regulate the industry and educate the public as much as possible. It’s better to educate people how to be safe, responsible and reasonable than to ask people to abstain.
I respect your comments but I still stand on my previous comment, it’s hard to taken in.
@@msi8311 thank you for your comments.
@@darleenmcclung9615 ✌️🙏
It doesn't take long to realize this professor is a mad man. This man clearly does not have a sound mind. I would not want to be a student of his in any class. He's interested in building drug centers to create better functioning drug users. Absolute madness!
Black people are the least open minded, yet we are some of the most afflicted. So sad. We are lady to get in board with what white folk already know. The brainwashing world and you are proof.
Such an intelligent and courageous man. Drug users should not be criminalised. It doesn’t help addicts remotely.
I agree only to an extent. Some drug users will try to sell to minors or children though which would be a big problem.
@@Thomzz95Then police and criminalise people for selling to minors much like alcohol.
I am in the first 5 minutes and this man is absolutely correct about middle and upper class whites using drugs.. they don’t smoke weed but they do the hardcore stuff and they are the doctors and surgeons etc. and very functional. So if a person is looking for what the typical drug user looks like, they will definitely miss it.
Nope they don't. And those that use hard drugs invariably unravel and self destruct. If only it were not so....
Bless this courageous man!
He started a conversation in the US which is long overdue. Look at international data of addiction; drug related death rates and rehabilitation policy in Portugal for example. Let's all stop pretending and the world would be a safer place...
The level of judgment in these comments is why America remain divided and distressed. Listen with the intent to understand and you would clearly see his attempt to educate on drugs and save lives. Btw, I've never been a drug user.
I wonder if those commenting negatively realize that alcohol was once treated as a highly dangerous substance. But even though it’s still dangerous, it’s legalized now. Same concept in my eyes.
Crackhead
@@alisharo58 Yes, it is. I found myself getting addicted to drinking wine and so glad I was able to quit. One glass of wine was leading to drinking a whole bottle for me. I feel so much better kicking this addiction. He's a functioning addict, OMG! I just can't...believe this
@@reneeharrell7075 he is a wreck waiting to happen . He is in denial and he lied to himself . Yes I do understand some of his points but he will self destruct if he doesn’t leave the heroine alone.
He is not long for this earth, but his reasoning for using drugs is really stupid. Frightening to know he is a college professor. He’s already losing his teeth!🦷
Ignorance right here with you...
Learn one thing:
DRUGS WILL NEVER CEASE.
They have been used since the start of mankind all throughout history from the Bible to the great philosophers, ancient rome to the aztecs. Santa Claus has it's origins from a drug, nearly all our history is based of drugs.
The reason it's bad now is because we have a black marker where UNpure products are sold, if everyone had what Dr Hart has being 100% pure straight from the lab drugs we would be ok and instead of wasting money on the war on drugs that just ruins life one million times more than the drugs we could develop an actual working rehabilitation system for those that encounter issues.
And clearly it’s affecting his brain because it’s very hard to follow him
Folk will try to normalize anything to get themselves the ok to do bad stuff.. So because he has money he's not a junkie...yea that makes since
@@BriaBarrows no. A lot of brilliant people are not great at expressing themselves. Introverts.
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
I need him to come out w/ a full documentary around this topic and his view point to really get it.....
Search his name on netflixs There should at least 3 documentaries that he has been in over last 10 years. This is just new to you.
@@onenone3209 Thanks for letting me know. I'm actually a documentary junkie, so I will definitely check them out.
@@ssbell2011jcsu Great you have a open mind. He went to the Air Force at 18 came home to visit saw what he thought was killing his community and decided to dedicate his life to solving the addiction problem then he discovered drugs are not addictive but the laws were made by Racist to harm black people. The Black judges police lawmakers all know drugs are not addictive but they get money and power from the drug war so they support. Please pass the word they kill us with ignorance.
I kind of understand where he’s coming from.
I'm 43yrs old I use heroin, but I work and support my habit and I support my 13yr old son. I dont drink alcohol or smoke weed. Ive been with my missus 15yrs and she's never worked but I refuse to support her financially. Using heroin or oxy is my one vice
I love how open and fair Tamron was to him especially with taking on such a controversial topic.
She was not open and fair she brought up his family. She has interviewed doctors before about the field of study without ask personal questions about their family. It's know way she does not know the people she has worked with over the years in media use drugs. She is being fake.
He may not be poor, but he's not smart either. Why would anyone get on the internet saying they do drugs 🤔.
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
It's called integrity.
@@pattybaselines Yeah, cause it's real integral to use an illegal substance that destroys your body. 👌🏿
thank you. i am a functioning drug addicted heroin user but used always responsible. but im constantly looked down on. but alcohol is ok. alcohol has ruined my life more. run ins with the law. but when using dope i never had any cop run ins
Can I ask how long you have
been using H?
@@rayhaveman4886 10 years
@@everytime0i0trip cool
@everytime0i0trip I don't agree with the term functioning addict but then I need to remind myself that we all have different opinions on what a happy and fulfilling (and functioning) life looks like.
Most of us are closet addicts to something. For me it was the caffeine in coffee. Now this may sound funny but when you don't get your caffeine dosage some of us do experience headaches, stomach aches, and vomiting if you don't get your fix. When I google caffeine this is what google had to say" Caffeine is a central nervous system stimulant of methylxanthine class, it is the World's most widely consume psychoactive drug, unlike many other psychoactive substances, it is legal and unregulated in nearly all parts of the World". The Most High Yah spoke to my spirit and said it was time for me to stop drinking it. He as my Elohim did not like me being addicted to anything. I was scared because I didn't want to experience the withdrawal symptoms because for me, I would get sick. It's been since January and I have not had any coffee. Praise to The Most High Yah!
Let me know when you sell your kids computer for a cup of Joe.
They only said marijuana can be legalized. I didn't hear anything about heroin so please don't try to normalize that.
This sounds madness
Is he just a functional addict who's come out of the closest and wants the others to follow?
Sounds about right
Yup
Pretty much. Truth be told, a lot of academics that study these sort of "alternative lifestyles", are just looking for excuses to indulge in these sort of things. Sexologists for example (i.e. Lindsey Doe from Sexplanations), are more often than not, just slutty, easy women who want to have sex with a bunch of different men, but without having to be looked down upon the same way as a porn star or hooker. For all the Jordan Petersons and Stephen Hawkings that have come out of academia, we get twenty or so Carl Harts and Lindsey Does out there.
I'm an addictions worker, he's definitely not an addict. like he said, the vast majority of heroin users dont become dependent and only use on occasion. alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
@@RyanMan767 But heroin is still objectively more dangerous than alcohol, given how much more often it leads directly to death. Yes, alcohol can lead to death in the hands of those who drive under the influence or who choose to partake in bar fights, but the chance of one dying purely from alcohol poisoning is far less likely than one dying from a heroin overdose. Alcohol in it of itself isn't nearly as bad, it's the behaviors and situations people find themselves getting into while drunk that causes most of the problems (which can be moderated by having someone sober around). Heroin causes far greater direct bodily harm, hence why it is the more dangerous drug by a mile. Alcohol may be bad, but heroin is worse.
I need @KevOnStage and @ThatChickAngel to revisit this on Here’s The Thing
Very thought provoking. By the way, don't forget that coffee is a drug.
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I’m a whole addict every morning Starbucks
You don't get dope sick without your Folgers.
And? What's your point? No one's saying we should ban drugs as a whole, as legal prescription drugs can be extremely useful in treating various illnesses, and mild drugs commonly found in food such as caffeine and sugar, can also be beneficial in small amounts. Even marijuana can be good if used in moderation and for the right reasons, but drugs like heroin, crack, and meth do absolutely nothing good. Feel free to disagree with the laws surrounding them, but don't be stupid and suggest that they should be legalized just because SOME drugs are okay.
So is tree bark and mushrooms…
Two things here
1. He looks incredible for 54
2. Tamron's fit is FIRE 😍😍😍😍
I've been going about this wrong. Imma get me some heroin rn🤣
It’s cool now... that is until his tolerance becomes greater and he needs more than just, “a few lines”
And you are a drug expert?
@@onenone3209 And you’re not?
@@cleopatradawn7821 But I do the smart thing and listen to Dr Hart and receive an Ivy League education for free. You know he teaches Doctors at Columbia medical school. Lmao when a white doctor comes behind him and says the same things you will not question the white doctor smh
@@onenone3209 That man is ignorant in certain areas and misleading to our youth. He is made of flesh, bone, blood and water just like every other human being. Therefore, he can become addicted and a straight up junky after a while👍🏾
@@cleopatradawn7821 In what area is he ignorant. He has taught this information to Doctors in medical school at Columbia University an Ivy League school. Have you ever earned a teaching position at an Ivy League University to teach the effects of drug on the human brain? By the way his studies where government funded in conjunction with the DEA notice no doctors are coming out saying he is wrong it's common knowledge to doctor. You received your drug education from the media.
Crazy irresponsible. So deceived!!! He said I use a lot of other drugs as well. Soooo deceived.
It’s obviously affecting his brain
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
Lol
@@BriaBarrows my guess is you've struggled with standardized testing while he's done very well. My guess is he's light years ahead of you iq wise. You are afraid of free thinkers.
This conversation is a relevant but people don’t want have it.
Yep. All the angry comments are telling
He’s an exception, we all know that Drugs is drugs regardless of the community.
He is A LIAR !! the worst kind at that. He lies to himself so of course he will lie to us..
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
He is right though, wealthy people are some of the biggest hard drug users.
How is knowing that helping the issue? We shouldn't be making addiction more acceptable. We should be focused on making mental health a bigger priority.
Hes amazing. Smarter than 99 percent of the population.
Well, he’s certainly not lying. I myself have been using heroin, ever since 1994. I still go to work, Monday-Friday, wearing a suit and a tie. Nobody in my family knows at all, because I’m a functional drug user. People hate to hear the truth.
Dude you've certainly convinced yourself into thinking, that nothing is wrong anymore!! Geesh, stop it 🤦🏾♀️
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
You've convinced yourself you know more than a respected scientist because you are ego invested and brain washed. Pretty sad actually. Npc for reql
@@RyanMan767agree that alcohol has more numbers on harm caused to others but are the numbers of deaths bought upon oneself by heroine same or higher than alcohol vice versa?
@@arsh0189there are a lot of people with alcoholism. they might be a functioning alcoholic and hold a job. but i would say without intervention, they have significantly lost their quality of life. they have reduced their involvement with people they love. and its all legal. they see their loved ones struggle and miss out on a relationship that they would like with that member. i would say that is like death. i would say that alcohol is just as dangerous as any other drug.
i don't think drugs are bad. i think our culture is bad and we are coping the best we can. i think that we dont have proper help for people who use. and drug users would say that being high feels good... until they are not.
I would be so embarrassed if he was my husband, kids dad or my daddy for that matter. Man really is this what you want your legacy to be🥺
Should’ve had his wife and kids on. I’m sure their story of him would differ
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization. one day, youre going to be embarrassed about this regressive and antiscientific perspective.
Drug usage is a dangerous activity to partake in. I have had a few men in my family to die from it. Just Sunday my 21 year old nephew died from it. I’m trying to hear his perspective but I don’t know about this.
People will use drugs anyway so why not make it safer? I do understand that point anyway. The war against drugs isn't working. It just puts more people behind bars. Also getting it from some crooked dealer means drugs might be tainted leading to more deaths.
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
Unbelievably sad! We are listening to the heroin talking 😪.
I'm an addictions worker, alcohol is objectively way more physically harmful, addictive, and socially dysfunctional than heroin, by far. yet most people use that without adverse consequences, including yourself i'm sure. its extremely ironic. the harms of drugs are caused by criminalization.
He is making good points regarding how drugs are used against the black population.
So am i understanding that we need to do drugs. Is this to get attention or is this real. During the 60s when the black panthers were trying to help blacks, weren't drugs brought into the community to flush blacks out and now a black educator is encouraging blacks to do drugs and maintain. Why don't we actually interview people who are apart of the real solution instead of this garage.
He is the one trying to end the war on drugs that have killed us you moron... The drugs were only brought into our communities to start the war on drugs, that's what really killt our community.
Do your research!
@@auguste573 I have to disagree! As a result of parents becoming addicts, people were not able to function well at work to provide a living. Crime shot up because people would do almost anything to get their fix. The policing just exacerbated and already surmounting problem in the black community. I would refrain from underestimating the negative effects of heroin use especially in a community as fragile and injured as the black community.
@@nikhefe16 Awesome point, i think what Hart says is true, BUT it would work with a small percentage of errors in a stable world we blacks due to our communities would be the small percetage so i agree. What we should do is not legalize but decriminalize.
We need more people like him in the this world.
I think it's funny because it's a free country but if you ingest drugs you can be thrown in jail and considered a slave that is allowed to be used as hard labor
This man is full of contradictions.
Which ones?
His research that the broader public uses drugs is great. I think his mistake was mixing his research with his personal business. He is smart enough to know that would be a lightening rod, so he may have been simply too "relaxed" when he spoke to Joe Rogan about his personal preferences
He messed up doing the right thing, ive been following him since 2013 and he always spke about "WE NEED TO MAKE NOBLE PEOPLE COME OUT WITH THEIR USE" It was a premature move of him to announce heroin being in his choice of drugs...
He’s being honest.. no way for his personal use to be dug up and thrown in his face later on .. I applaud him for this
*After listening to this interview, I completely understand what he’s saying.*
Not me. Hes a functional crackhead
@@SarahR2D2 exactly and functioning for now.
@@Lodeenie Exactly
@@Lodeenie For all I know this is part of some systematic racism agenda to get black people back on drugs.
@@SarahR2D2 it wouldn't surprise me
Surprisingly I think I’m following his point and it seems like the drug users environment plays a role in whether they become addicted or not
I believe more research needs to be done however I agree that environment certainly plays a role in whether one becomes addicted or not.
Unbelievable crazy!
Although I see both sides, I think he’s making some really good points. I know many doctors that use heroine/cocaine.
Did this ninja compare himself to Dr. King and Rosa Parks? Please...
OMG! Clearly his drug use is destroying his brain cells. How in the ef can this man compare himself to two individuals who risked their lives so that others could exercise their God given right to be a free human being. That is not the same as having the right use drugs freely. Drug use is a choice. Civil Rights are mandatory. His arrogance and stupidity is unbelievable and a good case on why one should not use drugs.
Obviously he's financially stable using drugs. So, he doesn't have the "drugie look" compared to someone with little to no funds. Take the money away and let's see what he will become. The addiction will still be present, money or not.
He doesnt seem addicted, he seems to be an occassional user.
What is going on here?
I love how Tamron brought this to a close and left him with his dignity in tact.. so much of what I enjoy artistically (music, fashion, paintings, movies, etc) was created from drug use, so I cannot sit here in judgement.. some of the worlds greatest so-called geniuses used drugs.. if what he is proposing will allow ppl to use safely, then I'm all for it.. his point is they will use anyway, so make it safe.. but that will never fly bc there is waaaaay too much money in criminalizing it.. the people in control are hypocrites and he's trying to get people to open their eyes to it.. interesting interview..
I was on H for almost a decade. I was a “functioning” addict for half of that time. The other half I ruined my life and had to get clean.
One, you don’t know what’s in most of what you’re getting. One bad batch and that could be it. Second, sometimes you gotta go to rough places and unsafe situations to get it. Third, money. For the first 5 years my job made me enough money that allowed me to pay all my bills, and afford my habit. Half the company was laid off, and i found another job within a month but made less. Still managed to survive and use, just had to cut back. Then suppliers weren’t constant, had to pay extra for crappy shit. Had to drive real far to get it, sit and wait for the guy, interfering with daily life and work. Costing more and getting less. Where it once was 5 minutes from my house and I was in and out, was now an hour and a half round trip plus sitting and waiting for the plug to show up. One thing led to another, too many days called off, or come in late, not making enough, loose job, end up a mess. But yea, if there was a steady flow of non cut stuff and I didn’t have to do shady deals, wait hours on some guy, and it didn’t cut into my living expenses, I would never have quit. No reason to. Duh. But that’s not how the rug market works.
Reckless...And, we cannot do what they do. Hope he still has a job.
I was gonna say they gon fire his azz. 😏😏😏
Right, him being on National Television admitting openly that he uses (heroine) regularly. I certainly would not be, “surprised” if he gets terminated... My father died from an overdose of this lethal drug, 💔it’s interestingly eerie how he’s talking so callously about this...😐😑😐
Not saying I agree, not saying I disagree. I will definitely read the book though.
I used to be a functional heroin addict for 13 years and it was the best time of my life, fentanyl destroyed my life and i am clean now but miserable, i get what this guy is talking about
Legalize everything. Let ppl make decisions for themselves. Like they really care and have people in mind lol. The same way people abuse junk food and alcohol. Nothing different here with heroin
Thank you…finally someone with common sense
He is 54 looking fresh❤️😘
I definitely believe that most addicts die from contaminated drug usage. Nothing is pure and because of that I believe the addicts become addicted faster than expected and die faster from exposure to multiple contaminants. Still I would caution and prevent from being affected by these issues by avoiding drugs all together. Also one day it'll catch up with you and they'll show affects someday regardless if how pure something is.
I guess that epidermal most woman take to give birth is gonna show up at the end for all of us, the processed food, the air pollution, etc. Because in the end, we are all gonna die from something.
It’s true that cut in specific drugs might be toxin but it’s not gonna make you addicted faster and there probably not dying from acute poisoning from the drugs cut more so fentanyl in opioids or overdoses on any drug
This guy is absolutely correct.
He's talking about the ignorance in not knowing what kind of drugs you're taking... duh what about not take any. No they don't need no drug checking facility they need to deter people from even starting drugs. The start of any drug is so stupid. Don't START and if you're on them get help.
You about to loose your job
No. He is Not. He is a tenure professor @ Colombia University!
@@jaibanks7151 for now.
They know he does drugs he had been doing this he is NOT goingbto loose his job...
I doubt he will lose his job.
Why did I sing this?
I tried cornrolls one day on my head, and the next day I quit cold turkey.
I've never once met a "recreational" heroin user and I guarantee I've been around 10 times more heroin users than this guy. Not to say they do not exist, but I would say, it is less than 5 percent of people who have done it more than a handful of times.
The recreational one’s don’t come forward cause of stigma.
I’ve been a recreational heroin user for almost two decades, I’m opioid dependent, I do use methadone maintenance daily but not Heroin.
@@GazB85and that’s exactly why ur a recreational heroin user, u don’t go thru withdrawal or cravings because ur on methadone. If you do heroine enough times and ur NOT on methadone trust me u will be a daily user not a recreational user. The body gets addicted to heroin extremely fast.
@@feemarie It’s like any opioid you need to use it often enough, roughly three to four weeks of daily use will cause physical dependency and withdrawal symptoms.
You have to read his books and see his lectures where he goes more in depth. It sounds absurd at first but once you actually hear what he is saying that's when you realize he did know what he was talking about
@@peacefuldays4255 I have and I still think he's a crock of shit. When you can afford it, it may seem like it's recreational. But, this dude is a full blown addict. He just makes enough money at the time being to cover up the dark side of addiction. I was able to do it as well for a time period and no one had a clue what was really going on. People always think they have it under control until they dont. There always comes a day, the purity changes, or even the complete chemical make-up changes. Now your 250 dollar a day habit costs 500 a day, because some jackass decided to cut the supply. Tolerance always goes up, so using once a day works at first. Then, 3 days later you have to use twice, so you're not waking up sick in the middle of the night. Next, you need to administer a lunch time fix to fend off the earlier and earlier on setting withdrawals. At this point, especially with todays product, you're using every hr or two just to starve off the withdrawals and really you're just using to physically make it through a day with out feeling like death. There's zero fun in it at this point and it puts you in the toughest battle you'll ever face and continue to face for the rest of you're life. This is the worst part of it being illegal, it's keeps it super expensive and quality is absolute shit if you aren't connected well. Say, I would relapse, I'd probably OD that first day on half a bag, but within a week my tolerance is climbing through the roof and I'm back to doing 20 plus bags a day, again. That's when I'm on fentanyl/tranq/dope. The shit is garbage and I hate the effect/high, but it does cure you sickness. It's cheap, but a hole different beast. Cheap being 150-200 dollars a day. But, when I'm doing primarily real H, I'm atleast a 3 gram a day habit just to be well. You're spending 300-500 a day for good product if you cant buy in absurd bulk. The high is more euphoric, stimulating, but not nearly as potent as fentanyl analogues which basically just puts you to sleep for an hr or 2 and you wake up withdrawaling, already. So, you usually stick to one or the other, because of tolerance difference. I'm already physically addicted after 3 days of consecutive use to the point my withdrawal is just as bad if I were using for, lets say, a year. Dopesick is dopesick, and I can tell the way he talks about heroin, he is in love and consumed by it. This is not a drug you can use the same amount at night everyday of the week and just leave it at that. You're doing it for the "high" and unfortunately it takes more every single time to get there and in increases exponentially. If you can afford a 500 a day habit, and keep you're life in complete control, I give you props. But, what happens when it's 1000 dollars a day? If you have the means to feed that beast forever, go for it, but I've never heard of anyone making it, let alone being happy through the process. I'd much rather spend my money on helping someone else these days than on a false sense of comfort and control that the artificial high really was.
So he just said his son being incarcerated for drug use or possession doesn’t personally effect him
It affects him more than he wants to admit. In fact, this entire cause that he has created probably has a lot to do with his son being incarcerated. If his son listens to his father, he'll be back in jail once he gets out. Clearly his son is not someone who can just use the drug on a recreational basis as his father is encouraging folks to do. His father seems to have a try it you'll like attitude but use it responsibly. That's a very hard thing to do with a hard core highly addictive drug.
We're in the process of normalizing everything that was once taboo. Black folks must stay vigilant and don't buy into this foolery. On the one hand race relations in the US has back paddled to the 1950s on the other hand this man talking about leveling the field regarding drug use. When drugs have historically decimated African American communities. There was a reason they were dropped in the black hoods. It was never expected for "white America" to get strung out.
@@traycee2404yes it was expected for white america to get strung out lol white soldiers were some of the very first junkies we had 😂😂
My brother and I are on medical MJ here in FL both for legitimate reasons. I am on disability and am poor, but my brother (who helps take care of me) is in something like the top 6% in the US, not inheriting a dime from my father's death and with minimum help through college from my mother who is 77 and has about a total of $100k in property/savings. We both use about the equivalent of 2 to 3 grams of flower a day, mostly in concentrates. The dispensaries are having a price battle here, so you can get ounces of flower for $120-$150 and a gram of THC concentrate in a vape cartridge for $20
Wait, he does heroin and he's still an ivy league professor, wow
He's right about upper class use of drugs.
I get what he is saying. He is looking at wider context. The 75 percent of other truths that are not in the mainstream narrative. It’s important to look at human behaviour truthfully and what other factors up risks in fatal or addictive drug taking ..
I'll do a couple of lines with you Doc
No thank you...a hard pass for me. 🤨
I prefer using opiates every day over drinking alcohol every day. Just like drinking alcohol if you don't escalate your doses over time you can keep functioning.
Tamron, do you realize that there are people in the comment section posting links to explicit websites??!!
That's disturbing
Never click on links from unknown sources.
I report the comments.
What does that say about Harvard that they allowed a drug abuser to become an educator?
Harvard was involved and profited from the opium wars in China! They were dealing then so why would the have anything to say! But wait: we don’t educate ourselves to know about their evils.
He’s not shattering views..he’s sending a wrong message to kids and people! Only weak minded people will change their minds about drugs having a negative impact on people’s lives!
Just because drug use crosses all socioeconomic lines doesn't mean it's not dangerous!
Hes just a high functioning addict. Sharing a wildly careless message
How yall think this gone turn out in a few years..or a few months?
Greatly exaggerated? Tell that to the family who just buried someone due to drug use.
sad comment section. just look at other countries. it’s like looking at a different world in terms of how they handle drugs. this man is speaking truth to what keeps brown and black men in prison and why it’s benefitting the few in charge.
Is anybody forcing brown and black men to sell drugs tho ??? I know plenty of folks from the hood that chose a different route and are doing great for themselves. Nobody forces u to sell drugs. It’s a choice, just like doing drugs is a choice.
Exactly. Credit. 👍. All depends on how professional & responsible u are.