As Ren has said in his songs... he's a therapist wet dream! Lol I Highly Recommend ya watch his 8 chapters that led up to the drop of this video! There are 8 short chapters of him explaining his mental and health complications, and his Disastrous journey navigating the health care system! Eventually ending up being 8 years of misdiagnosis, forced mental medications from wrongly diagnosed mental illnesses, to being lyme disease the whole time! That long without treatment has caused possibly irreversible brain damage! What hes in Canada getting treatment for Again... after a recent relapse of symptoms! It's a MUST for You to understand Ren, and what he's been thru! You owe it to yourself to dive into these and understand Ren if ya wanna react to his music with any kind of professional commentary! Each chapter ends with an older song of his that relates to each chapter! Again... this song was the finale of the chapters! They're located in his Troubles Playlist on his channel!!! I hope ya at least watch them offline... if not react to them too!?
This is Ren's 8 year health struggle in detail & directly from Ren's very own mouth in 8 chapters a Live artistic book reading format with a few twists, Ren style😏. Runtime approx 20 min per Chapter. ua-cam.com/play/PLHbj3Gti2ieNb6dboCdpxYUiNTNK9eT9w.html 🔥 I'm hoping this goes through, sometimes YT doesn't like me giving a helping hand to the reactors.
Seconded. Also while I really do respect Dominoes, and I'm glad that I've heard it... but I actively avoid listening to it again. For some reason that and the Tales are a lot harder for me to listen to than the rest of Rens serious songs. Yes, even THAT one. I think its because they both represent so MANY difficult stories that its overwhelming in a fundamentally different way. I can only bleed from so many places at once.
Ren absolutely got the treatment because of the position he was in... it wasn't his music, though. He was health vlogging. He'd created a whole community while he couldn't produce music and he was vlogging because he wanted to leave a legacy that might help someone else when he was gone. The stem cell specialist came across his vlog and offered him treatment. The thing is, though, Ren is aware his music afforded him opportunities others don't have even when he wasn't making much money, but especially now. That's actually the entire purpose of this song. He promised he wouldn't let the people he had to leave behind be forgotten. This song was part of that promise - he released it for ME awareness month. It was the first song about chronic illness to chart, which was his intent. He makes music for himself and to help others hope, but he's also doing more in the background. He's donating money, funding treatments and is hinting at a project he's working on to help make a physical space for chronic illness patients in the UK. There are people who give him a lot of flack for making his illness a huge part of his musical identity but he feels a responsibility to be a voice for the voiceless. At the end of the song when he says "everything I am is yours to hold" he looks at the camera as if talking to viewers rather than a god. Leading up to this song he released 8 autobiographical "chapters" giving a more in-depth look into his struggles. He flat out said it was uncomfortable and sharing so much of himself left less of him for himself. But he had to in order to facilitate understanding and hope.
Anyone that criticises the use of his life experience with chronic illness in his music is lucky to be in a situation where they don’t understand why he’d do that, but are too ignorance and selfish to know that
Recommendation for Robyn, react to Suicide and For Joe. Those tracks are absolutely phenomenal on their own, but the story behind it is just next level.
Ren even though his story is completely different than mine. Listening to his music feels like someone has listened to me and wrote it. I’m thankful for him for being here
This is the perfect song for Robyn. Ren has become a voice for the voiceless & those who've been Gaslit by the Medical industry.. The self harm incident is covered in his Chapters. it's like he just wanted to feel something/anything. Another great reaction.
I think when people are brought into react it just elevates the experience because you are in a venn diagram with more complicated interactions between the circles - so cool and thanks for your time doing this for us
Enoying Robyn's take,not so much for a reaction but i think Robyn would enjoy something on his other channel 'RenMakesStuff' He has 8 Chapters where he talks about his journey with a song at the end , incredible what he went/came through❤
I think there’s another level to the self harm that you didn’t cover: cause and effect. Ren still didn’t know what was wrong with him at that time. But there’s a very clear connection between stabbing himself and the blood/pain that it results in. I imagine there’s a sort of comfort in that when every question about your health is “answered with a question on the end”.
I dig the review. I might suggest a less echoey room or headphones because there’s quite a bit of reverb on the sound. It’s very introspective and accurate that the picture that you both use and a great message to others struggling with addiction or mental health.
As someone who used to be a cutter due to trauma... for me, I had to way to relieve my mental and physical pain. Cutting, bloodletting, was a way for me to release what I could not. Tough to explain, but that is my best and yes, it was also something I could control
I think it´s a very good idea to invite people from the outside to react to videos on this platform. Not only do you get the audience of their members to witness your channel but you grow your awesome community with the right people to represent it to the world. You are doing amazing work.
I found it fascinating that he described it being like an elastic band that stretches until it snaps back. I said nearly the same thing years ago about something painful I was dealing with, except I said it was a bungee cord. I had to figure out how to unhook the ends from each other to be free of it. To add to the conversation about why self harm can be a "release" of sorts: for me there's an element of perseveration that would lead me to self harming. The jolt of it would often break me out of being stuck in the negative thought pattern. And then there's the physiological response of the body releasing endorphins when there's an injury.
The STEM Cell doctor reached out to REN; hence when he sings 'But then man, lo and behold, I heard this Angel beckon on this treacherous road'. The Angel called Ren. I suspect that because Ren was already virtually very thin that the STEM Cell treatment had an effect on his body; it does not always work. By then, the damage was done to his nervous system. There is actually a video of Ren at the clinic receiving the treatment, or rather the part where they use liposuction to pull fat cells out of his body. Ren had very little fat to work with; it looked painful.
Sorry but did you not know he had undiagnosed Lyme's disease for years? "Waking up bitten" by a tick. It was ravaging his body while he was being dismissed &/or given psych meds which either didn't help or were actually harmful. Eventually he slipped into stress-induced psychosis. Can you imagine being so horribly ill while being told you aren't & treated like a hypochondriac? Only Ren's incredible strength & persistence led him back to life. Massive searches online led him to a study of children, which led him to the suspicion that what he had was pathogenic, which was eventually confirmed by a doctor in Brussels. Massive amts. of antibiotics were what he needed. The UK health system & every doctor in it, failed him in every way. It was during the time that he was misdiagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome that he contributed his song, Patience, to a film about ME. The stem cell doc saw that & contacted him. That treatment brought him "out of the cold" but it wasn't a cure. Unfortunately, neither was the 18 months of treatment he received in Calgary. He's had a devastating relapse & is only very recently doing better.
Yes, it seems much more like his mental health deteriorated because the body got worse while they kept telling him it was in his head, basically. On top of that, the mood/mind altering meds that he shouldn't have been taking did a big number. Not so much that his physical symptoms got worse because of the mental state. Heck, he was in as good a mental state as probably ever when his recent setback occurred.
Another band you guys should look at is Idles start with "1049 gotho" its interesting because the singer Joe is a former social care worker and that song is based on a conversation he had with a client who was describing his depression to him.
Ren now has PTSD from that experience and he was recently triggered by a relapse. He’s currently looking after himself in preparation for returning to Canada for another round of treatment
Someone NEEDS to check out from ashes to new, they have some really deep songs! Monster in me Through it all Gone forever Forgotten And An Ocean on its own, are just some examples that they have that touch base on lyrics having depth behind them
I'm waiting for someone to discover the band Sentenced especially their stuff from 1995s "Amok" all the way to their Close with "The Funeral Album" With songs like "Excuse me while I Kill Myself", "May Today Become the Day", or even "End of the Road". They are a band that doesn't get the recognition for their contributions.
I've been watching a lot of videos on this channel. I don't pay too much attention to lyrics, but I wonder if Mars Volta has any songs worth covering. Just a thought.
This is Ren's 8 year health struggle in detail & directly from Ren's very own mouth in 8 chapters a Live artistic book reading format with a few twists, Ren style😏. Runtime approx 20 min per Chapter. ua-cam.com/play/PLHbj3Gti2ieNb6dboCdpxYUiNTNK9eT9w.html 🔥 I'm hoping this goes through, sometimes YT doesn't like me giving a helping hand to the reactors.
I have hope for my wife and children. There is no hope for me I have EDS. Holding on to unrealistic hope may help many but for some of us it's a useless exercise and is only harmful.
From TheTogah: @seasonallyferal1439 Hey Friend! Thanks for posting and welcome to heart support! First I wanted to acknowledge how brave you are for dealing with this, continuing to remain resilient for those you love, and talking about it openly!! I'm certain it can be difficult to deal with and so alienating when people may not understand how hard things are when you remain resilient and keep the hope for your loved ones. In these situations I'm sure you know, but what's helped me has been staying open to talk about it and remaining the person we are for our loved ones. Keep positive! We believe in you and please don't hesitate to reach out!
Thanks for having me, really enjoyed this!! 🖤🤘🏼
I loved your perspective on this ❤
As Ren has said in his songs... he's a therapist wet dream! Lol
I Highly Recommend ya watch his 8 chapters that led up to the drop of this video!
There are 8 short chapters of him explaining his mental and health complications, and his Disastrous journey navigating the health care system! Eventually ending up being 8 years of misdiagnosis, forced mental medications from wrongly diagnosed mental illnesses, to being lyme disease the whole time!
That long without treatment has caused possibly irreversible brain damage! What hes in Canada getting treatment for Again... after a recent relapse of symptoms!
It's a MUST for You to understand Ren, and what he's been thru!
You owe it to yourself to dive into these and understand Ren if ya wanna react to his music with any kind of professional commentary!
Each chapter ends with an older song of his that relates to each chapter!
Again... this song was the finale of the chapters!
They're located in his Troubles Playlist on his channel!!!
I hope ya at least watch them offline... if not react to them too!?
Thank you! Glad to have you guest react today!
This is Ren's 8 year health struggle in detail & directly from Ren's very own mouth in 8 chapters a Live artistic book reading format with a few twists, Ren style😏. Runtime approx 20 min per Chapter.
ua-cam.com/play/PLHbj3Gti2ieNb6dboCdpxYUiNTNK9eT9w.html 🔥
I'm hoping this goes through, sometimes YT doesn't like me giving a helping hand to the reactors.
@@The.Metal.Therapist you should check out so much more Ren. He is utterly amazing.
I wish someone would check out Ren’s song Dominoes - such an amazing message- under rated song
Agree with dominoes. It’s slept on but hugely important.
Seconded.
Also while I really do respect Dominoes, and I'm glad that I've heard it... but I actively avoid listening to it again. For some reason that and the Tales are a lot harder for me to listen to than the rest of Rens serious songs.
Yes, even THAT one.
I think its because they both represent so MANY difficult stories that its overwhelming in a fundamentally different way. I can only bleed from so many places at once.
Ren absolutely got the treatment because of the position he was in... it wasn't his music, though. He was health vlogging. He'd created a whole community while he couldn't produce music and he was vlogging because he wanted to leave a legacy that might help someone else when he was gone. The stem cell specialist came across his vlog and offered him treatment.
The thing is, though, Ren is aware his music afforded him opportunities others don't have even when he wasn't making much money, but especially now. That's actually the entire purpose of this song. He promised he wouldn't let the people he had to leave behind be forgotten. This song was part of that promise - he released it for ME awareness month. It was the first song about chronic illness to chart, which was his intent. He makes music for himself and to help others hope, but he's also doing more in the background. He's donating money, funding treatments and is hinting at a project he's working on to help make a physical space for chronic illness patients in the UK. There are people who give him a lot of flack for making his illness a huge part of his musical identity but he feels a responsibility to be a voice for the voiceless.
At the end of the song when he says "everything I am is yours to hold" he looks at the camera as if talking to viewers rather than a god. Leading up to this song he released 8 autobiographical "chapters" giving a more in-depth look into his struggles. He flat out said it was uncomfortable and sharing so much of himself left less of him for himself. But he had to in order to facilitate understanding and hope.
@@perfectkismet very interesting, I definitely want to look into his stuff more!!
Anyone that criticises the use of his life experience with chronic illness in his music is lucky to be in a situation where they don’t understand why he’d do that, but are too ignorance and selfish to know that
Recommendation for Robyn, react to Suicide and For Joe. Those tracks are absolutely phenomenal on their own, but the story behind it is just next level.
Ren even though his story is completely different than mine. Listening to his music feels like someone has listened to me and wrote it. I’m thankful for him for being here
This is the perfect song for Robyn. Ren has become a voice for the voiceless & those who've been Gaslit by the Medical industry.. The self harm incident is covered in his Chapters. it's like he just wanted to feel something/anything. Another great reaction.
If I could recommend 2 under-reacted to tracks for you to react to : "pocket full of pain" and "Do you believe"
I think when people are brought into react it just elevates the experience because you are in a venn diagram with more complicated interactions between the circles - so cool and thanks for your time doing this for us
The Metal therapist? I need one. More metal therapy in masses
I'm thinking a metal health practitioner could help me channel my anger issues!
We are out here 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Enoying Robyn's take,not so much for a reaction but i think Robyn would enjoy something on his other channel 'RenMakesStuff' He has 8 Chapters where he talks about his journey with a song at the end , incredible what he went/came through❤
I think there’s another level to the self harm that you didn’t cover: cause and effect. Ren still didn’t know what was wrong with him at that time. But there’s a very clear connection between stabbing himself and the blood/pain that it results in. I imagine there’s a sort of comfort in that when every question about your health is “answered with a question on the end”.
I dig the review. I might suggest a less echoey room or headphones because there’s quite a bit of reverb on the sound. It’s very introspective and accurate that the picture that you both use and a great message to others struggling with addiction or mental health.
Subbed for Ren content
As someone who used to be a cutter due to trauma... for me, I had to way to relieve my mental and physical pain. Cutting, bloodletting, was a way for me to release what I could not. Tough to explain, but that is my best and yes, it was also something I could control
The young lady was fantastic ❤
I know you guys are covered it before but man I'd love to see her reaction to seven sins
All his videos are one take.That is what makes him so amazing.
I think it´s a very good idea to invite people from the outside to react to videos on this platform. Not only do you get the audience of their members to witness your channel but you grow your awesome community with the right people to represent it to the world. You are doing amazing work.
Thank you for analyzing this incredibly impactful song by Ren. Please do “Crutch” next 🫶🏻
Id love to see you do a reaction to BMIKE- ANXIETY.... directly related to therapy and prescribed drugs
I found it fascinating that he described it being like an elastic band that stretches until it snaps back. I said nearly the same thing years ago about something painful I was dealing with, except I said it was a bungee cord. I had to figure out how to unhook the ends from each other to be free of it.
To add to the conversation about why self harm can be a "release" of sorts: for me there's an element of perseveration that would lead me to self harming. The jolt of it would often break me out of being stuck in the negative thought pattern. And then there's the physiological response of the body releasing endorphins when there's an injury.
The STEM Cell doctor reached out to REN; hence when he sings 'But then man, lo and behold, I heard this Angel beckon on this treacherous road'. The Angel called Ren. I suspect that because Ren was already virtually very thin that the STEM Cell treatment had an effect on his body; it does not always work. By then, the damage was done to his nervous system. There is actually a video of Ren at the clinic receiving the treatment, or rather the part where they use liposuction to pull fat cells out of his body. Ren had very little fat to work with; it looked painful.
Sorry but did you not know he had undiagnosed Lyme's disease for years? "Waking up bitten" by a tick. It was ravaging his body while he was being dismissed &/or given psych meds which either didn't help or were actually harmful. Eventually he slipped into stress-induced psychosis. Can you imagine being so horribly ill while being told you aren't & treated like a hypochondriac? Only Ren's incredible strength & persistence led him back to life. Massive searches online led him to a study of children, which led him to the suspicion that what he had was pathogenic, which was eventually confirmed by a doctor in Brussels. Massive amts. of antibiotics were what he needed. The UK health system & every doctor in it, failed him in every way.
It was during the time that he was misdiagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome that he contributed his song, Patience, to a film about ME. The stem cell doc saw that & contacted him. That treatment brought him "out of the cold" but it wasn't a cure. Unfortunately, neither was the 18 months of treatment he received in Calgary. He's had a devastating relapse & is only very recently doing better.
Yes, it seems much more like his mental health deteriorated because the body got worse while they kept telling him it was in his head, basically. On top of that, the mood/mind altering meds that he shouldn't have been taking did a big number. Not so much that his physical symptoms got worse because of the mental state. Heck, he was in as good a mental state as probably ever when his recent setback occurred.
For the algo ❤
Another band you guys should look at is Idles start with "1049 gotho" its interesting because the singer Joe is a former social care worker and that song is based on a conversation he had with a client who was describing his depression to him.
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Ren now has PTSD from that experience and he was recently triggered by a relapse. He’s currently looking after himself in preparation for returning to Canada for another round of treatment
Someone NEEDS to check out from ashes to new, they have some really deep songs!
Monster in me
Through it all
Gone forever
Forgotten
And An Ocean on its own, are just some examples that they have that touch base on lyrics having depth behind them
I'm waiting for someone to discover the band Sentenced especially their stuff from 1995s "Amok" all the way to their Close with "The Funeral Album" With songs like "Excuse me while I Kill Myself", "May Today Become the Day", or even "End of the Road". They are a band that doesn't get the recognition for their contributions.
Ren became bedridden for up 23 hours a day
I've been watching a lot of videos on this channel. I don't pay too much attention to lyrics, but I wonder if Mars Volta has any songs worth covering. Just a thought.
please have her do Patience with ME at end
😊👏👏😊
Dominoes please. Very important song for mental health and society
Curious: are you part of Better Help? Or are they just a sponsor?
Just an idea to react on: Nightwish: The Poet And The Pendulum. A rollercoaster song of depression, mental turmoil and suicide.
#hope
Bard‐core.
i just roybn's insight
This is Ren's 8 year health struggle in detail & directly from Ren's very own mouth in 8 chapters a Live artistic book reading format with a few twists, Ren style😏. Runtime approx 20 min per Chapter.
ua-cam.com/play/PLHbj3Gti2ieNb6dboCdpxYUiNTNK9eT9w.html 🔥
I'm hoping this goes through, sometimes YT doesn't like me giving a helping hand to the reactors.
Please someone of you need to react to Count me out - Kendrick Lamar
This song saved me
Could you please do Rammstein - Zeit next?
How has this channel not reacted to Hatebreed yet?
Please react to limelight by rush
I have hope for my wife and children. There is no hope for me I have EDS. Holding on to unrealistic hope may help many but for some of us it's a useless exercise and is only harmful.
From TheTogah: @seasonallyferal1439 Hey Friend!
Thanks for posting and welcome to heart support!
First I wanted to acknowledge how brave you are for dealing with this, continuing to remain resilient for those you love, and talking about it openly!!
I'm certain it can be difficult to deal with and so alienating when people may not understand how hard things are when you remain resilient and keep the hope for your loved ones. In these situations I'm sure you know, but what's helped me has been staying open to talk about it and remaining the person we are for our loved ones.
Keep positive! We believe in you and please don't hesitate to reach out!