Restore Your Fence | $200 Weekend Project
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- Опубліковано 17 бер 2023
- Today I'm showing you how to clean and stain a cedar fence so it lasts for 50 years. This gear cost me about 200$. To purchase C2 Paint and C2 Guard (used in this video) 👉🏼 c2paint.com/homerenovision and use discount code: HRVDIY for 20% off
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Here is tip jeff, put that can in home depot bucket before you spin that wood piece with the drill. You would have save that 20% of stain. Perfect everytime .
I was thinking the same
Great idea!
Or dump half in the bucket then spin in can to get bottom, and dump and continue to mixing the bucket.
But that's why he included a discount code!
Ended up doing this for the deck. Cheers
I’ve been in construction since I was a teenager. Mostly worked on remodeling historic homes. I’ve done it all & I still learn something every damn time I watch one of these videos. Jeff-you are the man, brother! More than anything though, you remind me not to over-complicate this stuff & the simpler the work is, the more I enjoy it. So I’m sending every bit of my respect & gratitude from Cape Cod. You are one hell of a tradesman.
As I get older, I rather enjoy these type of weekend project. Satisfaction guaranteed.
Jeff heres a tip, drill a hole in the paint can's lid big enough for the drill bit to go through. Then attack the piece of wood on the other side. Close the lid and mix. 😅
Amazing how many people commented here about a sprayer... did you even watch the video?
He mentioned a sprayer twice, he's trying to use tools everyone should have access to, or be able to gather cheaply. Thanks for all the great videos Jeff!
I would have used a garden pump sprayer. Pool shock liquid is bleach but 5 times stronger for a couple dollars more, adjust strength accordingly with a touch of dish soap and water. I had used it on my deck before switching to Fiberon
Yeah by the time he scrubbed two sections you could have sprayed a nice coat or two on the whole thing.
Thanks for sharing
As a guy who owns a pressure washing and wood restoration business, I would never recommend you put bleach on wood. It literally burns the wood fibers. A dedicated wood cleaner is much better….
@@AlexKunstar And spray the fence with water before treating with the sprayed on bleach.
Spraying stain is a bad idea when you have a neighbor on the other side of the fence. My neighbor poisoned my dog and her new puppies when he spray stained the fence. He covered the dogs in stain and killed them all when they licked the stain. Idiot.
Great content Jeff, you're channel has helped me a ton on DIY projects. Staining my fence is on my honey-do list...once the weather heats up
That is awesome!
Hello Jeff!
I realize my comment will probably be to far down the list to read but I just want to say a huge thank you for all that you do to help us DIYers.
I love how real you are and how realistic everything is. You approach everything with an open mind and try to explain everything as best as possible and doing it all without crazy expensive tools!
I tried the pressure washer technique you mentioned but I had no reference so I ended up with some of the wood being fuzzy. Do I just quickly give that a sand before staining? Also I Live in Nova Scotia and since I am not close to Ottawa, do you have a second recommendation for stain that I should buy? I’m close to a Home Depot if that helps at all.
As well with the floor of the deck do I follow the same technique or will you be doing another tutorial on the deck your building right now?
I understand if you don’t see this or get a chance to get back to me.
Thank you again for everything! I love your channel and you’re amazing!!
Jeff your daughter is a lucky girl!! Hope she remembers Father's Day!!!
I’m a lucky dad. Cheers!
I think this has to be one of the best videos I’ve seen. Seriously Jeff you are the best. Really enjoyed watching and learning from you. Thank you -I especially love the commentary while working. God speed.
I just bought a house (20 yrs old) last month that has a huge cedar fence and huge cedar back porch. Not one single effort was done to preserve the beauty of the cedar. When it warms up, I'll be doing this method. I own both sides of the fence. Thanks for the instruction.
Thank you Jeff!! Looks great!!
Looking good Jeff! Used to use diesel and used motor oil as a stain, would be even cheaper but not everyone changes their own oil
Nice
Great preservative!
@@13ChroniclesOfDagger sure did
Lol i do same
I used the garden sprayer for application, much easier to use covers all the groves also and works really good.
You used the spray to apply the stain? Or the cleaner? I like this idea!
@@hippiechick3829 I used garden sprayer to apply the bleach cleaner and used paint sprayer to apply the stain.
This is on my spring list, so perfect timing on the video. Even for a simple job, it’s always nice to just watch one of your videos and get some confirmation. Great work, and a general thanks for the years of great stuff.
Did this and the scrub helped take out the black stains on my gate. I applied with a Sponge tho and found it helped keep bleach from splashing around and getting on me and my clothes. Hoping the weather is good and I’ll stain and seal it today.
Could you put the deck cleaner in a pump sprayer or backpack sprayer and evenly spray it across the fence without having to use a deck brush?
my first thought as well haha
yeah watching him try to brush this was painful. ive been a painter for over a decade...pump sprayer costs about as much as that brush and bucket ($30 ish).... wouldve taken him less than 10 mins to spray the fence down. do it as many times as needed to kill all the mold and bring the color back.... wait a few days then instead of buying a $20 deck brush, get a couple gallons of thompsons water seal and fill the pump sprayer back up and hose down the fence with that, back brush with the grain, done. my parents bought and installed a cheap cedar fence 4 years ago and we used thompsons on year 1, and the fence STILL looks great this year (to my surprise)
A garden sprayer is far more practical than a brush especially on a “shadow box” or “board-on-board” fence.
Thanks Jeff. We applied this to our backyard and the result is impressive.
We ended up renting a power washer since the multiple round of scrubbing is hard work 😊
We went with C2 Guard as you recommended. It is expensive compared to big store competition. Hope the price is worth the performance.
We underestimate our paint requirement by 3x
Nice work!
I do something similar to clean my house and buildings, but I find it easier to put the bleach water in a pump sprayer, I think it is easier then trying to use the brush to apply. Just go back with a brush if necessary, then rinse/finish with garden hose or power washer, bleach is amazing for cleaning.
Very articulate.Excellent job brother
Great to see you are from my home town! Any other recommended similar stain as the C2 GUARD that we could get on Vancouver Island? Love the vids. Thanks for all the great advice over the years!
Totally agree - I love the colour of new cedar, really don’t like the gray colour
Your daughter probably loves her dad is taking care of this for her ❣️♥️
Always love your videos, have learned so much. I have new unfinished cedar garage doors that I tried to stain/sealer a darkh brown but because they had been sanded, the stain wouldn't absorb. What do I need to do to the wood before applying the first coat of stain/sealer to open the pores?
Thank you Jeff. Ill do this to make some money this summer.
The 'fence cleaner' that I got instructed me to wet the fence, spray it on with a pump sprayer, then scrub with a brush. That sounds like extra steps, but I think you avoid having to do a thousand bucket dips or saw your brush to bucket size.
Yeah... There's not much of a reason to dip in a bucket.. Spray it on with a pump sprayer, then agitate it if it's even necessary.
Use a backpack bug sprayer to apply the deck wash. Saves more than half the time as well your back!
Spraying stain is a bad idea when you have a neighbor on the other side of the fence. My neighbor poisoned my dog and her new puppies when he spray stained the fence. He covered the dogs in stain and killed them all when they licked the stain. Idiot.
@@Gramps83😢 so sorry 😞
Hey Jeff great tips thanks for that. What do I do if I have peeling old stain on my fence before I want to re stain it with this product/technique?
My husband uses a sprayer (hand pump type) to spray our fence with a cleaning solution and it works great! Pressure treated, not cedar.
Just curious, but if you apply the penetrating sealer stain on one side of the fence, what happens if you don’t do it on the other side as well? Will that cause problems down the line? If one side is protected and the other isn’t, when that unprotected side starts to decay will not reach your side eventually?
I did this a long time ago and it worked quite well with a brush.
Down here in Texas we do a lot of burning our wood for a rustic look, then hit it with Thompson water seal. I did a style that's very old technique that the Japanese used to water proof all natural and it's called "sugi ban" It's almost black lacquer after it's burnt and repels water. I did a custom wood floor once using this i think you should check it out..
Thanks Jeff . You’re my mentor.
Bleach breaks down the lignin in wood causing damage to cells of wood. Yes, it’s instant results, consider other alternatives such as wood brighteners or other cleaners designed to safely brighten and clean wood which also preserve the life of the wood.
Also, you can pressure wash from a safe distance without etching the fence, and the brush isn’t always as necessary.
If you are a DIY weekend warrior however, bleach is a cheaper option and probably a better result than greyed out cedar.
Apply chems top down on vertical surfaces, rinse from bottom up with water
Neighbor sprayed fence with 30 second outdoor cleaner from home depot, hosed off. I was impressed with results
Jeff, can you put the bleach in a pump sprayer in stead and skip the scrubbing? Ours has mildew, so i'm hoping that will be enough
When do u think I should clean the paint brush after staining with c2 guard if the project is 2 different days? And what should I clean with? Mineral spirits?
Should I clean the brush at the end of the day?
Thank you!
Doing a full ground up rebuild of the 20yo PT fence that came with my house I bought a few years ago.
If I can get PT at half price where I am vs cedar and van stain it the same color what makes the cost of cedar worth it?
Sir, love watching your video's smart, funny and simple descriptions. Please keep making the videos & I love discovering your new stuff. I'll keep subscribing :)
Cheers!
Can you use a sprayer to apply the stain faster and better or you recommend using a brush?
You can use a pump sprayer too
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY so do you recommend using paint spray or pump spray?
Great stuff!
So I've been commissioned to make some outdoor signs for cabins with cedar slabs. I was looking on the C2 site and they have a clear version of C2 Guard. I'm assuming that's the one I would use?
Thanks for creating this great channel. Your videos are always appreciated and so easy to watch.
Wouldn't applying the bleach with a garden sprayer then scrubbing be a better way?
Dude I hope you know that none of us deserve you 😭❤️
I think you could have used a pressure garden weed sprayer or a cheap electrical paint sprayer to spray the bleach onto the wood....a lot easier than the decking brush on a pole and less waste....sometimes other tools or equipment can be used for things that they were not originally intended. Work smarter and easier.
Jeff or anyone, if using a pressure washer can you just fill the jug with the bleach solution and what nozzle would you recommend?
Cheers
Thank you for the video. How do I calculate how much stain I need?
Would you suggest / recommend using this process and stain on a deck or will the foot traffic ruin it ?
Any chance of using your airless sprayer to get it on the fence?
great job and explanation...
You can get a decent electric pressure washer at lowe's or harbor freight for around $100. Also could you apply the strain with pressure pot or air sprayer?
Hudson sprayer was my thought too
Don't have Harbour Freight in Canada
Exactly
Could you not use a paint sprayer of pump style sprayer to apply the cleaner?
The reason they don’t make the brush that fits a bucket is because it’s not meant to absorb water as you just found out. Use a garden pump sprayer.
So put the deck cleaner in your power washer, go to town, then put the sealer on? That's my plan with my cedar fence on the property I just bought.
You are going to atomize the bleach that way, so wear a respirator...??
Maybe better to use those cheap plastic pump sprayers to apply the deck cleaner.
@LeverPhile oh ya, I'll be in full gear of course. I don't mess around with anything.
@@LeverPhile You cannot use bleach in pressure washers as a general rule as it will eat the seals and ruin the pump. But you can get pressure washer specific cleaners for this Homeless depot sells Zep which I believe is Oxalic acid.
@@escapethewormhole
Somebody else mentioned using bleach, but their comment is gone. I wouldn't use it.
Daughter seems smart. She did nothing and now dad is doing it for her.
Outstanding video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers
Why not just use a sprayer to apply the cleaner? The grain raises but then it goes back to normal once it dries. I'd love for the city to be responsible for our fences but alas we have to do it ourselves. The things you bellyache about are hysterical.😅😂
You could save your back using a pump sprayer. Or, because I'm into detailing, I use my snow foam cannon!
I get a nice, thick coating that clings to the surface.
I put one coat on and leave it until its almost drying out, then put on a second coat and work it with the pressure washer gently.
Spotless in less than half the time.
Love the video! If you were using a pressure washer would you use cleaning solution or just water?
Thanks for the wonderful video!! would it not rot if the neighbour does not do it. I plan to do this on my face of the fence, but absolutely certain my neighbour will never do it. Thanks !!
Hi, thank you a lot for this channel it is very beneficial. I have a quick question not related to this subject.
Can I glue drywall to a concrete wall that seperate my basement from my neighbor's. My house is smi-detached.
What product you advice to use?
Why would you use furring strips to install & finish?
I meant, why wouldn't you use furring strips? Why do you want to glue?
I'm not a carpenter, but I wouldn't recommend that, even with green/purple board. I would stud out the wall and create a moisture barrier first. There are other ways, but I don't know them, talk to a carpenter.
I'd be interested in follow up videos or images to projects like this showing the completed project when dry and then maybe a year on. Would help clueless folks like me understand what I'm getting after all the work.
They use cedar instead of PT because all the PT fences split and warp horribly because the PT is so wet today and it dries too fast in the sun. I installed a cedar fence and finished it with Ready Seal. My fence looks new, but the PT fences in the neighborhood that were installed last summer are all warped and crappy already.
Can the same methods be used to revitalize a pressure treated deck / fence? Similar age as what you were working on (and area). No previous protection applied.
Yes, absolutely
hi Jeff - on an unrelated topic, I was searching for how to install home window tint. Of course, I searched your content first but didn't find anything. Just an idea for a future video. Meanwhile, keep up the great work!
There is a penetrating strain product that is much easier to apply. You don't have to worry about overlaps or drips. No prep for recoats. It's Outlast Products Q8 Log Oil.
Could you use a power washer? I need to stain my fence, it's rather old (probably 5-10 years old) and was never stained, I was thinking about getting a soap attachement for the hose, soaping it down and then using a powerwasher. Would something like that work instead of brushing?
Do you have a link to buy that paint mixer? It looked like it worked great!
Wieder was gelernt.
Thanks
Hey Jeff, watched your previous video on decks where you recommended Olympic Ascent Clear sealant and now you are recommending C2 Guard... Huge price difference. Also not readily available in GTA. Why the switch from Olympic to C2?
I thought if you did only one side, it wasn’t effective. Particularly if you seal. I was going to do both sides to try and save my fence from the landfill. What do you think about post caps.? Too bad the nice ones are cost prohibitive for your whole yard and the plastic ones only come in black and sometimes dark brown. BTW. Love your videos.
Would a pressure washer work just as well?
Rent a gas pressure washer at your local HD. A half day rental is $60. I rent one every spring to clean and recoat the deck. Made a cheap fold up ramp and pull it into a small SUV. E Z!
Great tip
OMG I was thinking the whole time in my head " Up......Down". I could even hear him with the thick ascent saying them words as well. RIP Mr.Miyagi or better know as Pat Morita. 😢
Can we do this on pressured wood ????
Could I not use a pump sprayer, and agitate afterwards... or is thee a concern of over saturating the wood?
Everybody is moving to alkyds for outdoor lumber applications but it's still a little pricey. it's an oil emulsion in water which is meant to mimic solvent based application features, including penetration. Still limited by the surface tension of water it achieves better penetration than conventional latex coatings. However, it's a misconception that they do not form films. The films being 1-2nm, even more if you choose to double coat the board.
does sealing only one side of the fence cause problems? I'm just thinking if the neighbor's side still absorbs / evaporates water, will the fence warp? Or even rot faster?
Would a pressure washer would work, instead of a brush?
Spray bleach with sprayer. Leave for 1 hr and then pressure wash.
Ay part left over or still dirty scrub with hard brush and dawn washing liquid and clean with power wash.
Oil based strain is very good. My fence is good since 4 years, while fences with water based is faded chipped and peeled.
So you're just using deck cleaner (bleach diluted) to scrub the cedar to get it clean before stain....? Is there a sealer to put over the stain ?
Can you show how to finish and patch concrete outside?
Green Treated pine is made to repel water. Therefore stain and sealer never really soaks in. You just can't get the sam look as cedar no matter what you do.
so if the neighbor doesnt stain his side... what? the outside of the fence rots but not the inside? Or it looks great on your side till it rots on the other? Im confused
It's not gonna rot on the other side. Lol. But if the bleech goes through the fence and begins dripping down the edges of the wood on the outside edges of the other side of the fence it may make those edges not the same color as the the grayish look of the middle part of the boards 😂
@@Bmanfresh "Lol" 🤦🏻♂️
IAllegedly suggested having the builder come back and finish the fence/backyard for new builds if they are having trouble selling new builds. Might be easier to push them into a ' free ' incentive than secure a straight price reduction.
Jeff! where else can I buy this C2 stain in South Western Ontario? the website doesn't say. I had a new fence and about 800sq ft of deck installed last summer. I need to stain this spring.
Jeff Can we get a "before and after" shot at the end so we see the finished fence looks like? Ta
If you have a pressure washer do you use a bleach cleaner or will the washer itself do the cleaning job?
Hello Jeff,
I am a bit confused because on one of your video you highly recommended to use the OSMO oil stain and now it is a waterbase stain. I have bought the osmo last summer and only had the time to do 10% of the deck floor. Should I stop with the osmo and switch to the C2????
Thanks
You can still use OSMO, it’s a great product and your deck will look awesome. I like to show different options for different folks. Not everyone can get the products I use in their area. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Cool!!! thanks so much for time and info 👍👍👍👍
Jeff, what color stain is that you are using? I see the C2 comes in a lot of different options.
Thanks
The colour and discount code is in the video description. Cheers!
My front porch deck paint is peeling off. Can i stain them or should I repaint, what steps to follow either way
How much sqft coverage did you get with 1 gallon of penetrating sealer? Thanks
Shivering black 🔔👍, if I ever have a fence, I will know what to do to protect it. Thank you.
Cheers
If you use a pressure washer do you still need the cleaner product?
Can't this be sprayed?
In Ottawa , well that's pretty cool Jeff .
Any suggestions for a similar product that’s available in NS?
Dunno if you answered this in the video and I missed it or not but why not just get a garden sprayer and spray the thing instead of the brush?
Does the behr penetrating stain and sealer work too? There’s a water based or oil for that one
Instead of scrubbing with a brush, could you just use a pump sprayer to make it easier?
Do you need a stain conditioner with cedar?
Is it possible to use a roller to apply the stain? I am going to finish mine😊