Have a vintage Philips CD 160 I bought in 1987 which features the TDA1541 Dac. Sat in it's box for years and was planning on dropping it off at the local Sally Ann. Keep in mind I've never serviced it so it could probably use a lens cleaning among other things. Recently I decided to hook it up to my Marantz SR 5600 and was reminded why I wanted to toss it. I went to a local parts store and picked a set of Vibrapod isolators. I installed the set of 4 under the player. Wow! I was blown away at how open and alive the tunes sounded now. Bass was tighter, midrange sounded cleaner and the treble was mightily more detailed and airy. I use a combination of Sorbothane and Vibrapods on most of my equipment to great effect. I guess the lesson here is to never underestimate the importance of component isolation.
I had one of these from new. Great player giving 15 years of good service before developing a transport problem. Currently have SA-KI Ruby SACD player.
Wow, I'm listening in my car (Volvo XC90 2021), didnt expect that much difference, but the TDA1541/Marantz track is on a completely different level, more air, cymbals e t c less splashy, bass more alive, better flow, depth, width, separation! The other track more sterile, less dynamic, harsh, clinical, doesnt capture your heart.. Kind of what I'd expect modern gear to sound like.. And thats in my car..
@@anadialog That is interesting. I really like this kind of video by the way, modern gear and vintage gear in comparison. Here a Grundig CD 8200 is playing, with a TDA 1541 chip, although not the select chip in the Marantz in the video. Still, a very nice CD player. Amp is a Tandberg receiver, TR-2025, speakers Scandyna SD 503 or Tandberg Hifi System 4. All vintage!
@@raymondchan3587 This is the same model. It just have different names between marketing regions. In Japan, the name of the original 100V model is PD-T09. In Europe (220-240V models) it was sold under PD-95 name. And in North America (110-120V models) it was found under PD-S95 ELITE name. All models have gold champagne color only, no known black version. This was (and still is) the best CD player/transport Pioneer ever made.
Hi , I listened on Senheiser headphones , the first track was all left and right nothing much in the center , the second track sounded more analogue and had some sound in the center . I have a Philips CD150 with twin TDA1540 D.A.C'S , I find that results can vary from quite bad to amazing depending up on the quality of the recording / c.d. mastering . One particularly good c.d. is Tubular bells by mike Oldfield . I got the distinct impression I was listening to the Master tape . Like Vinyl only without the surface noise . Best regards from Chris in the U.K.
In January i was bought a second hand a nakamichi CD unit OMS-1A, the sound signature, is very warm, very charming, i don't know hot to describe the sound, but it's not like technology from today, maybe is not the machine only completeley because i use a NAD preamp made in japan from the 90s, maybe is a combination of both, but of course not is my imagination, sounds very good, with classical music, and progresive rock, best wishes from Mexico.
I manage to get a Philips cd850 mk II for 200 euros in mint condition with remote. What a fantastic player is this with a very lot of options and incredible sound.
I had a Marrantz CD player, back in the day. I don't now, of course, because we currently use the same technology, but far more refined. A modern D/A converter will sound so much better than it's 30-year-old equivalent.
Well, AMR was using this converter and now something similar but worse in their best ausiophile CD players...the Philips is a true legends still used today! But as I claimed I prefer the Holo Audio...
Thanks for another great video, I always enjoy them. My first CD player was a Marantz CD50SE which I bought brand new for £350 in 1990 and it had the TD 1541a chip in it. I am sorry to say I sold it about 5 years ago.
Interesting vid of a genuine classic, thanks. A tip from me though: you really need to use manual focus on your camera when you're shooting a component like this because your camera's autofocus was constantly hunting for focus (especially when you put your hand/arm in shot) which made my head feel a bit funny after a while!
There are a number of ways to get more from the stock 94mk2. Firstly this player, as did most implementations of the TDA 1541, whether a single crown or double crown, benefitted from being left on. With proper warm up the sound will open up, with better instrument separation, depth and width of image. Bass, mid and treble improve too, and a slight forwardness in the treble sweetens, and is less course. Compare to on for an hour or so, and 24 hours after being left on, its significant. Secondly If using the player as an integrated put a shorting plug in the unused Digital output. Back in the day Marantz started to include these as a freebie because it offered a significant improvement in performance. Thirdly the bottom plate, which is thin holds the player back. There are two ways to deal with this, first is three cones, one under the transport, one under the mains transformer and one to balance. I recall well playing around with this back in the day [owned one of these from new back in the day] and nearly driving myself crazy as moving the cones around a little changed things. Coming to the conclusion that a thicker heavier plate might i prove things I made a replacement from 1/4 inch aluminium plate, which I brushed finished and lacquered. With the stock feet that helped, but placing the cones back underneath that sounded best - go figure. As you have also discovered the mains cable makes a difference. I worked my way up successive Marantz players from a 273le to a 65 se, cd85 and then the cd94 mk2. Regarding factual errors in your video the cd7 was not the top model when the cd94 mk2 was released, that honour fell on the cd12 le which was a two box design, transport and dac. Many claim the 94mk2 is better sounding, not something I can confirm or say no to as I have not heard a 12 in my own system. The shame of the 94 mk2 is its a balanced design, but having no xlr outputs, which the da12, and da94 had we will never know how much better that design, in true balanced mode, might have sounded. The player was designed by Ken Ishiwata, but Eric Kingdom also had involvement in it too. Eric came to Marantz from Sony and I recall well missing out on a few tweaks he knew and could implement. Lacking access to a car I was unable to go home, get the player and let Eric work on it after the audio show, he and I were working at had finished. That niggles at me, still to this day. There was a very limited version of the 94mk2 that Ken Ishiwata applied modifications to, audio reviewer Ken Kessler used one for years as a review source. There was also a cd 95 integrated player and a transport version called the cd95r, and a limited edition with better dac these came after the 94. There is also an ultra rare player the cd99se and 99 limited, these I never saw, back in the day, but it’s generally stated these were the pinnacle of the 94 chassis based designs. I own a cd7 and have compared the two, the cd7 has the edge on the 94mk2. One weakness in these players is the belts that help open the drawers commonly fail, and modern replacements in my experience don’t last long, leaving the player with a drawer that won’t open. Enjoyed the video, thank you for posting.
Thank you for this great video! In 1989 I bought a Marantz CD 85 (and a PM 75 amplifier/dac), and it is still in use today in my current setup. I always use the internal (Philips) dac when playing pop music cd's from the 80's and 90's; for jazz and acoustic music, I use an external dac.
I have a CD 85 too. I bought mine used in 1992; had mine 'clocked' internally in 2002 (Trichord Clock 3 System with Digital Output Board, though have continued using the internal DAC with its TDA1541A S1); vastly improved the sound, retaining the 'slam', but cleaning up the mush, improving separation and opening up the soundstage. Yes the CD-94 MK2 has the better transport and TWO S1's I believe, but I wonder how my modified CD 85 compares, sonically. I'd have a CD 94 MK2 in a heartbeat. Anyone still not impressed by 'ANA[DIA]LOG' may start now, (though he cannot use the name [DIGI]LOG because that was early Musical Fidelity!). I see another contributor has pointed out that various mods can be done on the CD 94 MK2; and that both machines benefit from being left on. So-o true - but I do worry about the tell-tale warmth from the heatsink at the back. And -for UK users- can we afford the electricity, now?
Another insteresting video. It's not too late to give a chance to the excelent Philips TDA1541 :) In my collection, I have 2 CD players, the Marantz CD 40 (TDA1541A) and the Marantz CD80 (TDA1541 Single Crown), both modified, and the sound differences are huge, when compared with the standard version (of both). I also have the excelent Arcam CD23 (with the Ring DAC developed from dCS), modified, as well. My suggestion is... Find a really good technician, able to implement the proper mods to your Marantz CD94 and you will be shocked about what can deliver your vintage CD player. I'm really not shure that after that experience your Holo May DAC still is the winner.
Marantz Cd Player Cd-63 SE it's been serviced and a lot of the parts upgraded it sounds brilliant it hasn't got that harshness that some cd players have.And it's another way of being green and stopping these things going to landfill because they're still very good
That was easily the most information relevant video I've heard to date on UA-cam. The aspect of interpolation and error correction of the disk read to my simple / ignorant understanding from manufacturer and reviewer vids was like removing a frosted glass. What would be interesting to hear is at what price point of DAC is required to exceed to internal DAC. Good job!
Yep still looking for the 120V version. When my ears were younger this particular model sounded great. I would trade my current Cd player for this older inferior one because the sound was more pleasant.
Excellent Guido. If it helps with your quest of CD reproduction, I have discovered Audio Note CD transports and they are amazing. Very analoguesque sound if that means sth to you. Silky and natural. I bought a CDT Two/II and now I listen to CDs more than ever.
Thanks for introducing us to this album “Unicorn” by Teruo Nakamura. It was a great sounding album and quite a funky fusion of styles. I even felt some spiritual aspects to it.
I worked for Burr-Brown Corporation for many years during the 80s and 90s. The reason why Philips came to a dead end with 16 bit R2R ladder DACs was due to not having a thin film NiCr process to adjust the accuracy of the ladder resistors on-chip. Marantz were owned by Philips at the time, hence they adopted the Philips DAC IC. Few others did. Plain CMOS process resistors were very inaccurate but extremely well matched, hence the move to Delta Sigma which utilised the matching of the on-chip passives. Burr-Brown could continue improving R2R ladder DACs up to 19 or 20 bit resolution.
I'm not so up on the transport mechanics but Denon made some great CD players using DACs like the PCM1702. The 20-bit PCM1702 was a really interesting DAC which spawned a bunch of follow-ons using the same architecture. Early R-2R ladder DACs suffered from some noise/glitches at low levels due to the Most Significant Bit current source turning on at the lowest volume output point. Multi-bit DACs had significantly higher performance than contemporary 1-bit and "MASH" DACs, but had this one flaw. The PCM1702 was effectively two 19-bit DACs in a complementary design which negated the zero cross point issue. They had all the benefits of R-2R ladder DACs and now removed the other issue.
Something to be said for great build quality. I bought a Denon dcd a100CD player used for a little less than half of its $2500 original price to match a used like new pma a100 integrated amp I also purchased used. Not inexpensive but heavy and well made. Compares very well to a 2 grand analog set up. I enjoy both equally, just different. Never tried an outboard dac.
How does it compare to, for example, The Marantz CD6007 CD Player is the replacement for the multi-award winning CD6006 UK Edition. The Marantz CD 6007 features a new Hi-Res D/A conversion.
It greatly depends on what one is looking for in music presentation. Current audiophile wisdom puts more emphasis on _absolute_ detail retrieval, as against the 'older' antique more 'rounded' sound presentation. Which one is better? Matter of taste, system synergy and let's not forget the recording itself. There's no "absolutes" in sound reproduction methinks. Thanks for the lovely presentation of this legendary player. 😃
One small remark: The Philips CDM-1 is not made of Zinc, it's made of Zamac which is an alloy composed of zinc with aluminium and small parts of copper and magnesium. It has a relatively low melting point and is easy to cast. Also CDM-0 was made of Zamac and even the frame of some of the Philips CD players like the CD-100 was made of Zamac
I have a Naim CD3 with the TDA1541A chip and it has been modified by Avondale Audio NOS and a clock and regulated external power supply. Superb. The early Arcam DACs were 1541A too..
They both sound wonderful. Listening through my humble IEMs, the HOLO sounds less bassy and the electric guitar on the R channel is neutral sounding. Treble is more airy and a bit relaxed. I think it's more "analytical" in terms of percussion instruments' separation. The sound from the TDAs is more warm and straight forward. Bass is more and the guitar (wah wah?) on R channel is more prominent, a bit dominating the mids. Treble is more and still analytical, but not so airy. I honestly don't know which is my favorite!!!
The Marantz 94mk2 (TDA1541 dac) has much better detail, presence, and natural. It also revealed the texture of instruments giving you "a true to live like" experience. The other dac has nothing to offer to a serious music lover.
I realized that I'm not really an audiophile in the way most people are. I legit don't really hear that much of a difference between the two tracks you played, and honestly haven't heard a huge difference between turntables either unless they're really bad at holding speed or poorly isolated. But with the same cartridge? No difference from the phono output. Same with CD, I can't hear the difference between the players. I have a really nice pair of Pioneer studio monitors made by TAD which should easily show any issues, but they don't. I produce music myself and find this whole "the way the artist intended it" discussion funny, since the gear they used to monitor the mix on varies wildly from what each person has in their setup. Especially the room can and will make a huge differrence, moreso than some fancy cables. Paying so much money for a CD player is wild, I found my Pioneer PD-4550 outside because it wasn't working, turns out the lens was just dirty. To my ears it sound great, can't hear any distortion or lack of whatever. It's always interesting to see which justification people make for their hobbies, more power to you!
several years ago I was in a stereo store. There was a Harman Kardon CD player. the amplifier was a Linn If I remember correctly the name of the speakers I probably don't remember but they were considered to have very good resolution for the time. the sound was like holographic, it sounded like I was in a different place than the room I was in
@Guido just got one after your video and also hearing one at my friend place as he was always happy with one. Hopefully will do recap later. Thanks for your video
Right away I could hear that the first track was not a TDA1541A. Never heard the Holo spring but know the basic character of the 1541A. One main thing is the homogeneous presentation it does. It gives the sum of the instrument rather then presenting them in separation. For me this homogeneous presentation is a big part in what many call "musical". A lot of modern and some old (high end) Hifi tends to pull the music apart, both in time and space.
I'm not sure about taking a second hand cd mechanism, also seems hard to find in N. America. But have you looked at the Atoll DR200 transport? Seems to be a TEAC drive, maybe the same as the Primare DD35, but seem less expensive.
Wow, the two recordings sound TOTALLY different! The most pronounced difference I'd say its DYNAMICS! I'd say the first recording sounds more faithful and the second more exciting. Dunno which one I'd choose, each one have its charms. Maybe the second, sounds "faster" and more colourful...
"Wow, the two recordings sound TOTALLY different! The most pronounced difference I'd say its DYNAMICS! I'd say the first recording sounds more faithful and the second more exciting. " Really funny as you not hearing the original but a version which was highly compressed by UA-cam :-)
@@elkeospert9188 not only that, it has gone through the sound card, audio software etc, but still the difference is quite pronounced, something I wasn't expecting, that's why I said "wow"...
There are literally many dozens of things you can do inside a CD player as far as mods. My early players were all Magnavox and used various 1541 chips. Besides lacking bass, those players lacked something that is more important; tone colors. The first CD player I really liked was an Onkyo and then a Marantz that also played SACD. It's possible to triple or near triple the sound quality of a CD player. Above or below the best analog? I wouldn't bet either way. Having something really good underneath a CD player is very important. I'm not sure if vibration affects a stylus playing a groove any more than a laser playing pits, although the general belief is the former. To see what's inside your CD player, take the top off. I keep the top off, for best sound. If you sit real close to the player you can't do that, stray laser light can damage your eyesight. 2 More Reference CD discs: Copland/Ives multi CD set. Johannes and the Dallas symphony was recorded that day many years ago using special figure 8 microphones designed by someone named Fischer. Listen to the purity on the brass. They also recorded their famous version of Rachmaninoff Symphonic Dances in the same session. Tiger In The Rain-Michael Franks. All his music seems to be recorded amazingly well. This is a reference example of true deep tone colors.
I've been trying to thrift/charity shop for a single tray CD player for YEARS! I don't recall coming across a single model. Plenty of DVD and blue ray players. Hoping for the day I happen upon a pioneer elite, Sony es, or something special. The only new machine that's reasonably priced is that NAD model.
Two of my favourite CD players of all time. Sony SCD-1 Super Audio CD/CD player Givecthis a whirl I'd say it demolishes most so called high end players and it feels like it's milled from a solid ingot. Linn Sondek CD12 CD Player, now that will test you
Hey AnaDiaLog, great video as always mega-grazie! Did you hear the latest about MoFi & DSD?? They’re making our vinyl out of digital! Please make a video we need to hear your feedback?
I have a DENON DCD 3560 from 1991. Sony's linear motor transport is much faster than overhyped CDM-1 and very stable. I also have a DCD 1500 mk2 from 1987 and still working fine, so nobody should worry about KSS-151A. 3560 is more robust 17 kg. You should test one as transport and player as well. You would be surprised. Old Denon TOTL players are built like tank.
If you want to try an amazing older DAC, try the Marantz HD DAC1. I have tried many many high end modern DACs and they just can’t beat it. It does benefit a lot from a galvanic isolator however on the USB. Great channel!
Thanks for your interesting comparison between a classic D/A converter in a CD player and a new generation DAC. The only thing that left viewers unsatisfied is the unfortunate choice of test track. I don't mean it's bad music but people craze for "analogue" sound will have better choice of music (piano trio, strings, vocals, piano... etc) to test the sound color and airiness of two DACs. In my opinion, the chosen track cannot fully reveal the difference and characters of the two DACs in question.
I agree. Unfortunately we have a big copyright problem in UA-cam. Can't choose anything I like! I give up monetization in most videos but can't do it always and, once again, copyright strike is behind the corner. It happens wuite often and then the video is offline.
@@anadialog Why not use Epidemic Sounds? Some of the tracks are very good and they're copyright free for Video creators. See examples on New Record Day's videos, example here: ua-cam.com/users/Newrecordday2013
I directly recognized track 2 being the TDA1541A. I still have a couple Marantz CD94 and its separate converter the Marantz CDA94 which is more optimized in power supply with XLR outputs. Too bad I don't have version 2. What is recognizable is a wide image with more present bass. I also use a MUSICIAN PEGASUS DAC R2R dac with a modified Singxser SU2 + a Sotm tx USB ultra both powered by a FARAD 3
Thanks Guido, I love vintage VS modern stuff reviews . I trust a lot your impressions but must admit I'm a bit confused about power cables in a CD player. I've seen weeks ago a video from Audiosciencereview where Admir talks about a power cable from Audioquest. To be honest I'm lost. Take care!
I'll try to add more info in the future. But please, this is not a precise science yet, trust your experience and ears. Do make your own tests. Don't take my or other youtubers' words for granted.
Great video - you're extremely well spoken and easy to listen to. I just got the cd94 mk1 to use as a transport only into a Schiit Yggdrasil dac. I am actually super happy with the choice and the chunkiness of the tray. I assume mk1 and mk2 are not different in regards to drive since both use CDM1s, but it's the Dac chips that change from one to another - is that right?
I highly recommend the enlighten audio design dedicated CD transport T1000 vintage , especially using the st-glass optical don't confuse with the common plastic optical. st-glass is rarely seen in any hifi system it's use for industrial AT&T devices
I actually have the Philips CD960 and 3 (or4?) DAC 960, but I never checked on the TDA1541ies, if they are royals.. Is the Maratz in case of sound quality superiour to the Philips? I´m not sure, maybe Philips used different caps?
The CD box picture with it's Aztec / Inca / or some ancient Messo American iconography style really seemed to match the music surprisingly well (not that ive heard whatever music they played, it can't have been like what i heard) but nonetheless, it mstched it & i liked what i heard in as far as i did.
ok , nice comparisson here, thank you, Marantz has a different presentation in tone, it has more high mids and highs, sounds bit more open at first but thats characteristic of augmented high frequencies. The may its fleshier has more depth and images better, its better yeap, but the marantz is also fantastic.
I really like the FTS function on my Marantz CD11LE as you can also remove tracks from the playlist (e.g. I removed the track 'Babe, I'm on fire' from Nocturama by Nick Cave). It's true that swingarm lasers have a rounder sound signature. I preferred it to the Accuphase DP450 mechanism with female voices. The placing of instruments (focus) is less sharp with the CDM4/32 pro laser.
@@justinparkman3585 Would probably cost £5,000 in today's vastly overpriced specialist hifi market. That is why they are commanding high used prices. Worth it though.
Very late comment I k know. I have the cd94 with the cda94 dac. They are incredible. I also have a chord Hugo which is excellent, but the marantz pair from 1986 whips it’s but in every way.
Never late, I try to read everything and the video will live for ever. That is why I prefer UA-cam over TikTok or Instagram...thinks are not used and consumed but appreciated and cherished over time... Interesting that your combo is better than a Chord!
This CDP is a great machine indeed but to show his real level needs some updates. Take a look at what I´ve done with a regular Marantz CD94 here: ua-cam.com/video/rQ2_EVI0CnE/v-deo.html
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 had the separate dac as well. Played it through a Proton pre+final and JBL 4312A speakers. They sounded good! We are on another planet today, with modern dac technology, but on some particular nights my memory says that those guys sounded even better. And that my Fiat Uno was better than the Audi I drive today, and that the cheap takeaway from the chinese guy in Times Square was tastier than the expensive dinner I can afford nowadays. It may have something to do with being 25 years old, that must be why.
@@DaveJ6515 Yeah thats a?pretty bold statement me saying dacs are much better now days . I had an ole Pioneer Elite PD65 i loved always wanted the PD92 bith with Stable platters , My favorite Player was the Arcam FMJ 37 But now I use a cd transport with my Burson composer dac and geez !! Rhythm l and pace just draw you into the clouds tuned in and tuned out ! I feel what your saying that is a Nice player Matantz 94 mk2 solid and reliable . Do you use Coax or Toslink? I use coax
I LISTENED TO IT ON A VERY SENSITIVE PAIR OF TITANIUM HEADPHONES AMD I COULD HERE MORE BASS MORE CLARITY I COULD HEAR SOUNDS STARTING AND STOPPING MORE CLEARLY. THE SECOND ONE WAS BETTER
You should try any one these CD players with Philips TDA1541A S1 DAC chip and Philips CDM9 transporte mechanism: Naim CD3, Naim CD2 or Naim CDi - your head will blow away!
What about ripping your CDs with a program like exact audio copy and then reproduce the files through a DAC ? It seems that this way you can avoid all the mechanical issues related to the transport , data recovery from the CD etc etc. what is your opinion about this? Thank you!
It was a good player in it's day, beautiful aesthetically and a has a decent CD transport but that modern DAC smokes the old TDA1541 (not really that surprising) I was surprised to even hear the difference on my laptop speakers let alone through youtube which chops off frequencies above 15k. I'm not sure I get the obsession with these old DAC's, whilst some implementations can sound nice most modern delta sigma dac's just have the edge on smoothness imo
Just a minor correction: UA-cam typically doesn't chop off frequencies above 15kHz. Something like that only happens when you download something off UA-cam using some 3rd party tool or website. Such tools typically transcode the audio to MP3 (which UA-cam doesn't use) with the ~16kHz low-pass filter as a side effect. But UA-cam's own audio playback doesn't do any of that and plays back up to 20kHz just fine. (There are some reports out there that playing back UA-cam through the Safari browser does filter at about 16kHz though, but most other browsers and devices don't).
Interesting. Newest DACs probably better and measure better but sometimes it’s how the actual music sounds. The TDA1541 chip just seems less fatiguing listening to music. I have a Sony with the TDA1541 and it sounds better than my more modern CD player with much better DAC
I’m looking to get a CD transport audiolab 6000cdt was on my rader, after hearing your recommendation that the Cambridge cxc v2 was a better selection. May u give some advise, as I do not want to regard after getting the audiolab…
Your camera kept going out of focus, which I found annoying. I own a CD-7 - bought brand new - and I love it. I've never experienced noise issues and the sound has a sweetness that is totally beguiling, with tremendous low-end performance too
@@anadialog Adjust your video camera's lens until the Marantz CD 94 player is in clear, sharp focus - THEN SHUT OFF your camera's AUTO-FOCUS so that it stays focused all the time on your subject matter. Now you can move your hands around to point at different features on the CD player and your camera will stay in focus.
Well, the main difference of the Philips CD-960 its the power supply that in the case of the Marantz its far superior, i dont really know mutch about the difference of the CDM1 and the CDM1-MKII but after making some research in my spare time regarding the best overall CD/transport/DAC players I came to the conclusion that the best its the Grundig CD-9009, and how I liked to get my hands on one!
@@anadialog Grundig has two dedicated power supplies, and from the photos I've seen they seem to put all the best components at the time, even the A-9009 amplifier with a Damping Factor of 250 and which I "heard" say was based on PM-94 from Marantz, it has better specifications than the Marantz itself, I believe it was some kind of experience at the time, in terms of electronics they had the best and that's why I'm very curious to know how it will be in terms of sound, that's what I'm based on, and that's my opinion, if you happen to find a 9009 don't look back and I won't either! Best regards.
Well thanks for editing the disclaimer: the second track REALLY sounded fuller and more detailed by far. This does not shed a good light on audio tests and comparisons out of UA-cam…
Great video ! The 1541 was better : it rendered the bass overdrive with precision and the snare was more real too. I doubt that the soundcard could arrange this. Apart from the sabre 9018, I still think the 1541 was the best.
Pioneer PD93 owner here...beats Marantz ;-) 20bit D/A at its best...2xPCM63K vs 2xTDA1541A ... both are awesome and used in some serious DACs today, like by Abbas Audio... sorry, FPGA-ultra-highend-vendors, for sure it is not the answer from on sonic prospective, sure technical ..
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Have a vintage Philips CD 160 I bought in 1987 which features the TDA1541 Dac. Sat in it's box for years and was planning on dropping it off at the local Sally Ann. Keep in mind I've never serviced it so it could probably use a lens cleaning among other things. Recently I decided to hook it up to my Marantz SR 5600 and was reminded why I wanted to toss it. I went to a local parts store and picked a set of Vibrapod isolators. I installed the set of 4 under the player. Wow! I was blown away at how open and alive the tunes sounded now. Bass was tighter, midrange sounded cleaner and the treble was mightily more detailed and airy. I use a combination of Sorbothane and Vibrapods on most of my equipment to great effect. I guess the lesson here is to never underestimate the importance of component isolation.
I had one of these from new. Great player giving 15 years of good service before developing a transport problem. Currently have SA-KI Ruby SACD player.
Wow, I'm listening in my car (Volvo XC90 2021), didnt expect that much difference, but the TDA1541/Marantz track is on a completely different level, more air, cymbals e t c less splashy, bass more alive, better flow, depth, width, separation! The other track more sterile, less dynamic, harsh, clinical, doesnt capture your heart.. Kind of what I'd expect modern gear to sound like..
And thats in my car..
I agree, but I must admit that live, in presence, I prefer the Holo Audio May.
@@anadialog That is interesting. I really like this kind of video by the way, modern gear and vintage gear in comparison.
Here a Grundig CD 8200 is playing, with a TDA 1541 chip, although not the select chip in the Marantz in the video. Still, a very nice CD player. Amp is a Tandberg receiver, TR-2025, speakers Scandyna SD 503 or Tandberg Hifi System 4. All vintage!
I had the marantz 94 and pioneer pd 95 back in the day both fantastic cd players and also made great transports.
Don't know what's the difference between pd 95 & pd-t09
@@raymondchan3587 This is the same model. It just have different names between marketing regions.
In Japan, the name of the original 100V model is PD-T09.
In Europe (220-240V models) it was sold under PD-95 name.
And in North America (110-120V models) it was found under PD-S95 ELITE name.
All models have gold champagne color only, no known black version. This was (and still is) the best CD player/transport Pioneer ever made.
Hi , I listened on Senheiser headphones , the first track was all left and right nothing much in the center , the second track sounded more analogue and had some sound in the center .
I have a Philips CD150 with twin TDA1540 D.A.C'S , I find that results can vary from quite bad to amazing depending up on the quality of the recording / c.d. mastering . One particularly good c.d. is Tubular bells by mike Oldfield . I got the distinct impression I was listening to the Master tape . Like Vinyl only without the surface noise . Best regards from Chris in the U.K.
In January i was bought a second hand a nakamichi CD unit OMS-1A, the sound signature, is very warm, very charming, i don't know hot to describe the sound, but it's not like technology from today, maybe is not the machine only completeley because i use a NAD preamp made in japan from the 90s, maybe is a combination of both, but of course not is my imagination, sounds very good, with classical music, and progresive rock, best wishes from Mexico.
I manage to get a Philips cd850 mk II for 200 euros in mint condition with remote. What a fantastic player is this with a very lot of options and incredible sound.
I had a Marrantz CD player, back in the day. I don't now, of course, because we currently use the same technology, but far more refined. A modern D/A converter will sound so much better than it's 30-year-old equivalent.
Agreed...
No, never
@@damirhlobik6488 Is too... times a thousand, no backsies.
Well, AMR was using this converter and now something similar but worse in their best ausiophile CD players...the Philips is a true legends still used today! But as I claimed I prefer the Holo Audio...
like what ?
I've recently picked up a technics SL-PJ27A and I'm really enjoying it. It's in perfect condition and each CD plays almost instantly with great sound.
Naim CDX from the end of the 90s, 20 bit, absolutely stunning, bought 2 month ago for 700 euros
Thanks for another great video, I always enjoy them. My first CD player was a Marantz CD50SE which I bought brand new for £350 in 1990 and it had the TD 1541a chip in it. I am sorry to say I sold it about 5 years ago.
Interesting vid of a genuine classic, thanks. A tip from me though: you really need to use manual focus on your camera when you're shooting a component like this because your camera's autofocus was constantly hunting for focus (especially when you put your hand/arm in shot) which made my head feel a bit funny after a while!
Amen to that. It was driving me crazy.
Yes, as explained in other comments, I tried a different distance that did not work out. Sorry about that.
There are a number of ways to get more from the stock 94mk2.
Firstly this player, as did most implementations of the TDA 1541, whether a single crown or double crown, benefitted from being left on. With proper warm up the sound will open up, with better instrument separation, depth and width of image. Bass, mid and treble improve too, and a slight forwardness in the treble sweetens, and is less course. Compare to on for an hour or so, and 24 hours after being left on, its significant.
Secondly If using the player as an integrated put a shorting plug in the unused Digital output. Back in the day Marantz started to include these as a freebie because it offered a significant improvement in performance. Thirdly the bottom plate, which is thin holds the player back.
There are two ways to deal with this, first is three cones, one under the transport, one under the mains transformer and one to balance. I recall well playing around with this back in the day [owned one of these from new back in the day] and nearly driving myself crazy as moving the cones around a little changed things. Coming to the conclusion that a thicker heavier plate might i prove things I made a replacement from 1/4 inch aluminium plate, which I brushed finished and lacquered. With the stock feet that helped, but placing the cones back underneath that sounded best - go figure.
As you have also discovered the mains cable makes a difference.
I worked my way up successive Marantz players from a 273le to a 65 se, cd85 and then the cd94 mk2.
Regarding factual errors in your video the cd7 was not the top model when the cd94 mk2 was released, that honour fell on the cd12 le which was a two box design, transport and dac. Many claim the 94mk2 is better sounding, not something I can confirm or say no to as I have not heard a 12 in my own system. The shame of the 94 mk2 is its a balanced design, but having no xlr outputs, which the da12, and da94 had we will never know how much better that design, in true balanced mode, might have sounded. The player was designed by Ken Ishiwata, but Eric Kingdom also had involvement in it too. Eric came to Marantz from Sony and I recall well missing out on a few tweaks he knew and could implement. Lacking access to a car I was unable to go home, get the player and let Eric work on it after the audio show, he and I were working at had finished. That niggles at me, still to this day. There was a very limited version of the 94mk2 that Ken Ishiwata applied modifications to, audio reviewer Ken Kessler used one for years as a review source. There was also a cd 95 integrated player and a transport version called the cd95r, and a limited edition with better dac these came after the 94. There is also an ultra rare player the cd99se and 99 limited, these I never saw, back in the day, but it’s generally stated these were the pinnacle of the 94 chassis based designs.
I own a cd7 and have compared the two, the cd7 has the edge on the 94mk2.
One weakness in these players is the belts that help open the drawers commonly fail, and modern replacements in my experience don’t last long, leaving the player with a drawer that won’t open.
Enjoyed the video, thank you for posting.
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@@orangeActiondotcom On the contrary - I can easily read ALL of it.
Thanks for the extra info!
Thank you for this great video!
In 1989 I bought a Marantz CD 85 (and a PM 75 amplifier/dac), and it is still in use today in my current setup.
I always use the internal (Philips) dac when playing pop music cd's from the 80's and 90's; for jazz and acoustic music, I use an external dac.
Thank YOU!
I have a CD 85 too. I bought mine used in 1992; had mine 'clocked' internally in 2002 (Trichord Clock 3 System with Digital Output Board, though have continued using the internal DAC with its TDA1541A S1); vastly improved the sound, retaining the 'slam', but cleaning up the mush, improving separation and opening up the soundstage. Yes the CD-94 MK2 has the better transport and TWO S1's I believe, but I wonder how my modified CD 85 compares, sonically. I'd have a CD 94 MK2 in a heartbeat. Anyone still not impressed by 'ANA[DIA]LOG' may start now, (though he cannot use the name [DIGI]LOG because that was early Musical Fidelity!). I see another contributor has pointed out that various mods can be done on the CD 94 MK2; and that both machines benefit from being left on. So-o true - but I do worry about the tell-tale warmth from the heatsink at the back. And -for UK users- can we afford the electricity, now?
Another insteresting video. It's not too late to give a chance to the excelent Philips TDA1541 :) In my collection, I have 2 CD players, the Marantz CD 40 (TDA1541A) and the Marantz CD80 (TDA1541 Single Crown), both modified, and the sound differences are huge, when compared with the standard version (of both). I also have the excelent Arcam CD23 (with the Ring DAC developed from dCS), modified, as well. My suggestion is... Find a really good technician, able to implement the proper mods to your Marantz CD94 and you will be shocked about what can deliver your vintage CD player. I'm really not shure that after that experience your Holo May DAC still is the winner.
Super nice video. I'm using a Marantz SA17 S1 SACD player from 2004. Very good player IMO.
Marantz Cd Player Cd-63 SE it's been serviced and a lot of the parts upgraded it sounds brilliant it hasn't got that harshness that some cd players have.And it's another way of being green and stopping these things going to landfill because they're still very good
I just got one of these babies so happy to hear this review… oh wait no I got a CD 63 Mk ii
I recently bought a used Sugden Masterclass cd player, best I have ever heard.
Very interesting review! 👍🏼 I have Marantz CD 67, and I like it too. Its also sounds rounded and warm.
yes that was my first 💿 cd player loved 😍 great sound and a work of art 🎨
That was easily the most information relevant video I've heard to date on UA-cam. The aspect of interpolation and error correction of the disk read to my simple / ignorant understanding from manufacturer and reviewer vids was like removing a frosted glass.
What would be interesting to hear is at what price point of DAC is required to exceed to internal DAC.
Good job!
Thanks for the video lovely player !!!
Yep still looking for the 120V version. When my ears were younger this particular model sounded great. I would trade my current Cd player for this older inferior one because the sound was more pleasant.
Excellent Guido. If it helps with your quest of CD reproduction, I have discovered Audio Note CD transports and they are amazing. Very analoguesque sound if that means sth to you. Silky and natural. I bought a CDT Two/II and now I listen to CDs more than ever.
Nice, thanks!
Excelent video. Whats your opinion about. Cd 67 Es? Can you compárese the diference???thanks a lot!!
Technics have done similiar models back in the day.Which also sounds great.
Thanks for introducing us to this album “Unicorn” by Teruo Nakamura. It was a great sounding album and quite a funky fusion of styles. I even felt some spiritual aspects to it.
Thank YOU!
amazing how vintage mechanisms read the table of contents so fast.
I worked for Burr-Brown Corporation for many years during the 80s and 90s. The reason why Philips came to a dead end with 16 bit R2R ladder DACs was due to not having a thin film NiCr process to adjust the accuracy of the ladder resistors on-chip. Marantz were owned by Philips at the time, hence they adopted the Philips DAC IC. Few others did. Plain CMOS process resistors were very inaccurate but extremely well matched, hence the move to Delta Sigma which utilised the matching of the on-chip passives.
Burr-Brown could continue improving R2R ladder DACs up to 19 or 20 bit resolution.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing that. So in your opinion what is a top performing vintage and modern CD player/transport?
I'm not so up on the transport mechanics but Denon made some great CD players using DACs like the PCM1702. The 20-bit PCM1702 was a really interesting DAC which spawned a bunch of follow-ons using the same architecture. Early R-2R ladder DACs suffered from some noise/glitches at low levels due to the Most Significant Bit current source turning on at the lowest volume output point. Multi-bit DACs had significantly higher performance than contemporary 1-bit and "MASH" DACs, but had this one flaw.
The PCM1702 was effectively two 19-bit DACs in a complementary design which negated the zero cross point issue. They had all the benefits of R-2R ladder DACs and now removed the other issue.
Excellent video, I have the Nakamichi MB-10 and sounds great, it gets even better with the Bursonaudio V5i Dual x1 Opamp V5i,
Something to be said for great build quality. I bought a Denon dcd a100CD player used for a little less than half of its $2500 original price to match a used like new pma a100 integrated amp I also purchased used. Not inexpensive but heavy and well made. Compares very well to a 2 grand analog set up. I enjoy both equally, just different. Never tried an outboard dac.
Jays audio came out with a flagship cd transport...CDT3-MK3. ;)
Could try it even though the CDT2 left me cold...
@@anadialog yeah. I kind a remember u returned it. Didn't like the sound? Or the sound just didn't justify the price?
How does it compare to, for example, The Marantz CD6007 CD Player is the replacement for the multi-award winning CD6006 UK Edition. The Marantz CD 6007 features a new Hi-Res D/A conversion.
Fascinating and erudite as usual. I’m still deliberating which CD player or CD transport to buy. More thinking to do, aided by your lovely video .
Sony rules the roost in the CD world
I have the Philips cd950 with the TDA 1547 sounds amazing and highly detailed. Probably not as good as the Marantz but excellent for my preferences.
It greatly depends on what one is looking for in music presentation.
Current audiophile wisdom puts more emphasis on _absolute_ detail retrieval, as against the 'older' antique more 'rounded' sound presentation.
Which one is better?
Matter of taste, system synergy and let's not forget the recording itself. There's no "absolutes" in sound reproduction methinks.
Thanks for the lovely presentation of this legendary player. 😃
True!
One small remark: The Philips CDM-1 is not made of Zinc, it's made of Zamac which is an alloy composed of zinc with aluminium and small parts of copper and magnesium. It has a relatively low melting point and is easy to cast. Also CDM-0 was made of Zamac and even the frame of some of the Philips CD players like the CD-100 was made of Zamac
Thanks for pointing that out!
I have a Naim CD3 with the TDA1541A chip and it has been modified by Avondale Audio NOS and a clock and regulated external power supply. Superb.
The early Arcam DACs were 1541A too..
They both sound wonderful.
Listening through my humble IEMs, the HOLO sounds less bassy and the electric guitar on the R channel is neutral sounding. Treble is more airy and a bit relaxed. I think it's more "analytical" in terms of percussion instruments' separation.
The sound from the TDAs is more warm and straight forward. Bass is more and the guitar (wah wah?) on R channel is more prominent, a bit dominating the mids. Treble is more and still analytical, but not so airy.
I honestly don't know which is my favorite!!!
The Marantz 94mk2 (TDA1541 dac) has much better detail, presence, and natural. It also revealed the texture of instruments giving you "a true
to live like" experience.
The other dac has nothing to offer to a serious music lover.
Right
Its in a B&O cd 5000 too….
i have the Marantz CD5000 And has inside the DAC CHIP PHILLIPS TDA 1549 sounds great TDA 1549 IS A JEWEL ONE OF THE BEST DACS IN THE HISTORY
I realized that I'm not really an audiophile in the way most people are. I legit don't really hear that much of a difference between the two tracks you played, and honestly haven't heard a huge difference between turntables either unless they're really bad at holding speed or poorly isolated. But with the same cartridge? No difference from the phono output. Same with CD, I can't hear the difference between the players. I have a really nice pair of Pioneer studio monitors made by TAD which should easily show any issues, but they don't. I produce music myself and find this whole "the way the artist intended it" discussion funny, since the gear they used to monitor the mix on varies wildly from what each person has in their setup. Especially the room can and will make a huge differrence, moreso than some fancy cables. Paying so much money for a CD player is wild, I found my Pioneer PD-4550 outside because it wasn't working, turns out the lens was just dirty. To my ears it sound great, can't hear any distortion or lack of whatever. It's always interesting to see which justification people make for their hobbies, more power to you!
Thank you ,great vintage CD player review ,I’m looking at the Marantz CD6007 CD Player what do you think ,🙏🎸🎼
You had me at "Marantz" 🤩
several years ago I was in a stereo store. There was a Harman Kardon CD player. the amplifier was a Linn If I remember correctly the name of the speakers I probably don't remember but they were considered to have very good resolution for the time. the sound was like holographic, it sounded like I was in a different place than the room I was in
@Guido just got one after your video and also hearing one at my friend place as he was always happy with one. Hopefully will do recap later. Thanks for your video
Nice!
What about the comparison with nakamichi OMS - 7A?
My brother has cd 63 mk 2 ki signature still good after all these years
Right away I could hear that the first track was not a TDA1541A. Never heard the Holo spring but know the basic character of the 1541A. One main thing is the homogeneous presentation it does. It gives the sum of the instrument rather then presenting them in separation. For me this homogeneous presentation is a big part in what many call "musical". A lot of modern and some old (high end) Hifi tends to pull the music apart, both in time and space.
Agree 100%
Good observation!
I voted for the Pioneer PD-T09 110V Japanese version, True masterpiece.
I'm not sure about taking a second hand cd mechanism, also seems hard to find in N. America. But have you looked at the Atoll DR200 transport? Seems to be a TEAC drive, maybe the same as the Primare DD35, but seem less expensive.
You forgot to mention one of the ultimate players that would arguably beat the CD-94. The Sony CDP-X7ESD with its bullet-proof KSS-190A mechanism
What do you think about Philips TDA 1549?
Wow, the two recordings sound TOTALLY different! The most pronounced difference I'd say its DYNAMICS! I'd say the first recording sounds more faithful and the second more exciting. Dunno which one I'd choose, each one have its charms. Maybe the second, sounds "faster" and more colourful...
"Wow, the two recordings sound TOTALLY different! The most pronounced difference I'd say its DYNAMICS! I'd say the first recording sounds more faithful and the second more exciting. "
Really funny as you not hearing the original but a version which was highly compressed by UA-cam :-)
@@elkeospert9188 not only that, it has gone through the sound card, audio software etc, but still the difference is quite pronounced, something I wasn't expecting, that's why I said "wow"...
I found COBY cd player at a flea market..
Not even a second thought.
I'm still vibing to the sound it produces 🌫️🌫️
Do you know the very solid Denon DCD 1500? What do you think about this player?
I don't! i see the price is very good…
There are literally many dozens of things you can do inside a CD player as far as mods. My early players were all Magnavox and used various 1541 chips. Besides lacking bass, those players lacked something that is more important; tone colors. The first CD player I really liked was an Onkyo and then a Marantz that also played SACD. It's possible to triple or near triple the sound quality of a CD player. Above or below the best analog? I wouldn't bet either way.
Having something really good underneath a CD player is very important. I'm not sure if vibration affects a stylus playing a groove any more than a laser playing pits, although the general belief is the former. To see what's inside your CD player, take the top off. I keep the top off, for best sound. If you sit real close to the player you can't do that, stray laser light can damage your eyesight.
2 More Reference CD discs:
Copland/Ives multi CD set. Johannes and the Dallas symphony was recorded that day many years ago using special figure 8 microphones designed by someone named Fischer. Listen to the purity on the brass. They also recorded their famous version of Rachmaninoff Symphonic Dances in the same session.
Tiger In The Rain-Michael Franks. All his music seems to be recorded amazingly well. This is a reference example of true deep tone colors.
I've been trying to thrift/charity shop for a single tray CD player for YEARS! I don't recall coming across a single model. Plenty of DVD and blue ray players. Hoping for the day I happen upon a pioneer elite, Sony es, or something special. The only new machine that's reasonably priced is that NAD model.
The second one sounded less "tinny". It did separate the tracks well, and the music did sound "softer".
Hi , Which one do you think is better?
Marantz cd6006
Marantz sa7001
Marantz sa7003 sacd
did I miss it or did you explain differences between Mk 1 and Mk2 players.
Great channel, BTW
Two of my favourite CD players of all time. Sony SCD-1 Super Audio CD/CD player Givecthis a whirl I'd say it demolishes most so called high end players and it feels like it's milled from a solid ingot. Linn Sondek CD12 CD Player, now that will test you
Ok you got me...I am actually on the hunt of the CD12, for some time now!
@@anadialog good luck, I hope you get one. I missed a fully cased one last year I was gutted, nit seen one for sale since.
Hey AnaDiaLog, great video as always mega-grazie! Did you hear the latest about MoFi & DSD?? They’re making our vinyl out of digital! Please make a video we need to hear your feedback?
I have a DENON DCD 3560 from 1991. Sony's linear motor transport is much faster than overhyped CDM-1 and very stable. I also have a DCD 1500 mk2 from 1987 and still working fine, so nobody should worry about KSS-151A. 3560 is more robust 17 kg. You should test one as transport and player as well. You would be surprised. Old Denon TOTL players are built like tank.
If you want to try an amazing older DAC, try the Marantz HD DAC1. I have tried many many high end modern DACs and they just can’t beat it.
It does benefit a lot from a galvanic isolator however on the USB.
Great channel!
😅😅😅
Where can someone buy this machine???
Thanks for your interesting comparison between a classic D/A converter in a CD player and a new generation DAC. The only thing that left viewers unsatisfied is the unfortunate choice of test track. I don't mean it's bad music but people craze for "analogue" sound will have better choice of music (piano trio, strings, vocals, piano... etc) to test the sound color and airiness of two DACs. In my opinion, the chosen track cannot fully reveal the difference and characters of the two DACs in question.
I agree. Unfortunately we have a big copyright problem in UA-cam. Can't choose anything I like! I give up monetization in most videos but can't do it always and, once again, copyright strike is behind the corner. It happens wuite often and then the video is offline.
@@anadialog Why not use Epidemic Sounds? Some of the tracks are very good and they're copyright free for Video creators. See examples on New Record Day's videos, example here: ua-cam.com/users/Newrecordday2013
I directly recognized track 2 being the TDA1541A.
I still have a couple Marantz CD94 and its separate converter the Marantz CDA94 which is more optimized in power supply with XLR outputs.
Too bad I don't have version 2.
What is recognizable is a wide image with more present bass. I also use a MUSICIAN PEGASUS DAC R2R dac with a modified Singxser SU2 + a Sotm tx USB ultra both powered by a FARAD 3
Thanks Guido, I love vintage VS modern stuff reviews . I trust a lot your impressions but must admit I'm a bit confused about power cables in a CD player. I've seen weeks ago a video from Audiosciencereview where Admir talks about a power cable from Audioquest. To be honest I'm lost. Take care!
I'll try to add more info in the future. But please, this is not a precise science yet, trust your experience and ears. Do make your own tests. Don't take my or other youtubers' words for granted.
Great video - you're extremely well spoken and easy to listen to. I just got the cd94 mk1 to use as a transport only into a Schiit Yggdrasil dac. I am actually super happy with the choice and the chunkiness of the tray.
I assume mk1 and mk2 are not different in regards to drive since both use CDM1s, but it's the Dac chips that change from one to another - is that right?
what coax, and power cord did you choose? I have a yggy as well
I highly recommend the enlighten audio design dedicated CD transport T1000 vintage , especially using the st-glass optical don't confuse with the common plastic optical. st-glass is rarely seen in any hifi system it's use for industrial AT&T devices
I've got a marantz cd6006 a good cd player but now looking for something special a marantz cd10 or a use esoteric which one is better
🤗👍 THANKS GUIDO … for sharing this information with us 🤗😎😍😍😍😍
I actually have the Philips CD960 and 3 (or4?) DAC 960, but I never checked on the TDA1541ies, if they are royals..
Is the Maratz in case of sound quality superiour to the Philips? I´m not sure, maybe Philips used different caps?
TDA 1541 sounds fuller, warmer, more organic.
ARCAM FMJ CD37 SACD player great one.
You will probably find that along with Marantz; Arcam, Philips, and Linn remotes should work, too.
The CD box picture with it's Aztec / Inca / or some ancient Messo American iconography style really seemed to match the music surprisingly well (not that ive heard whatever music they played, it can't have been like what i heard) but nonetheless, it mstched it & i liked what i heard in as far as i did.
That Teruo music sounds like 1971-72 MIles Davis stuff. What year is that album from?
solid CD player
ok , nice comparisson here, thank you, Marantz has a different presentation in tone, it has more high mids and highs, sounds bit more open at first but thats characteristic of augmented high frequencies. The may its fleshier has more depth and images better, its better yeap, but the marantz is also fantastic.
I really like the FTS function on my Marantz CD11LE as you can also remove tracks from the playlist (e.g. I removed the track 'Babe, I'm on fire' from Nocturama by Nick Cave). It's true that swingarm lasers have a rounder sound signature. I preferred it to the Accuphase DP450 mechanism with female voices. The placing of instruments (focus) is less sharp with the CDM4/32 pro laser.
Another classic is the PIONEER PD-91 and still have it and sounds great. Had the CD94 mk ONE but def not as good as the lovely PD-91 ?
I have the 91 tried a few modern players including a rega Saturn r the pioneer was a lot better
@@justinparkman3585 Would probably cost £5,000 in today's vastly overpriced specialist hifi market. That is why they are commanding high used prices. Worth it though.
Very late comment I k know. I have the cd94 with the cda94 dac. They are incredible. I also have a chord Hugo which is excellent, but the marantz pair from 1986 whips it’s but in every way.
Never late, I try to read everything and the video will live for ever. That is why I prefer UA-cam over TikTok or Instagram...thinks are not used and consumed but appreciated and cherished over time...
Interesting that your combo is better than a Chord!
This CDP is a great machine indeed but to show his real level needs some updates. Take a look at what I´ve done with a regular Marantz CD94 here: ua-cam.com/video/rQ2_EVI0CnE/v-deo.html
Used to this and the separate DAC unit
Thats the way to go but some swear by the ole philips tda dac chips single/dual crowns
But modern dacs are much better
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 had the separate dac as well. Played it through a Proton pre+final and JBL 4312A speakers. They sounded good! We are on another planet today, with modern dac technology, but on some particular nights my memory says that those guys sounded even better. And that my Fiat Uno was better than the Audi I drive today, and that the cheap takeaway from the chinese guy in Times Square was tastier than the expensive dinner I can afford nowadays. It may have something to do with being 25 years old, that must be why.
@@DaveJ6515 Yeah thats a?pretty bold statement me saying dacs are much better now days .
I had an ole Pioneer Elite PD65 i loved always wanted the PD92 bith with Stable platters , My favorite Player was the Arcam FMJ 37 But now I use a cd transport with my Burson composer dac and geez !! Rhythm l and pace just draw you into the clouds tuned in and tuned out !
I feel what your saying that is a
Nice player Matantz 94 mk2 solid and reliable . Do you use Coax or Toslink?
I use coax
I LISTENED TO IT ON A VERY SENSITIVE PAIR OF TITANIUM HEADPHONES AMD I COULD HERE MORE BASS MORE CLARITY I COULD HEAR SOUNDS STARTING AND STOPPING MORE CLEARLY. THE SECOND ONE WAS BETTER
I listen your boardcast with a TDA1541 NOS DAC
Nice!
You should try any one these CD players with Philips TDA1541A S1 DAC chip and Philips CDM9 transporte mechanism: Naim CD3, Naim CD2 or Naim CDi - your head will blow away!
What about ripping your CDs with a program like exact audio copy and then reproduce the files through a DAC ? It seems that this way you can avoid all the mechanical issues related to the transport , data recovery from the CD etc etc. what is your opinion about this? Thank you!
Because when you store files and play them trough a hard disk, computer or quality streamer, they just sound worse IMO.
It was a good player in it's day, beautiful aesthetically and a has a decent CD transport but that modern DAC smokes the old TDA1541 (not really that surprising) I was surprised to even hear the difference on my laptop speakers let alone through youtube which chops off frequencies above 15k. I'm not sure I get the obsession with these old DAC's, whilst some implementations can sound nice most modern delta sigma dac's just have the edge on smoothness imo
Just a minor correction: UA-cam typically doesn't chop off frequencies above 15kHz. Something like that only happens when you download something off UA-cam using some 3rd party tool or website. Such tools typically transcode the audio to MP3 (which UA-cam doesn't use) with the ~16kHz low-pass filter as a side effect. But UA-cam's own audio playback doesn't do any of that and plays back up to 20kHz just fine. (There are some reports out there that playing back UA-cam through the Safari browser does filter at about 16kHz though, but most other browsers and devices don't).
Interesting. Newest DACs probably better and measure better but sometimes it’s how the actual music sounds. The TDA1541 chip just seems less fatiguing listening to music. I have a Sony with the TDA1541 and it sounds better than my more modern CD player with much better DAC
I’m looking to get a CD transport audiolab 6000cdt was on my rader, after hearing your recommendation that the Cambridge cxc v2 was a better selection. May u give some advise, as I do not want to regard after getting the audiolab…
Thanks for your advise Erwin
Just found a Philips CD960 selling at a cost at $1200 sing dollars used unit not too sure is it worth paying?
Wow that’s a good deal. Even here a used Philips cd880 not working condition they asking for S$400 & Marantz cd94 mk2 cost $2000 not in good condition
Found a Philips CD850, not too sure is that a good dac too? Comes with a TD1541 chip
I prefer more TDA1540 cd players. They sound more natural to my ears. I use philips cd-150 which in my opinion is great sounding player.
You're in good company!
What happen to your EMT, it seems you dumped it?
No, no! It's positioned out of the image and sometimes I have to move it to test stuff. I love it dearly!
Your camera kept going out of focus, which I found annoying. I own a CD-7 - bought brand new - and I love it. I've never experienced noise issues and the sound has a sweetness that is totally beguiling, with tremendous low-end performance too
Sorry about that. I experimented a different distance that didn't work out. Hope the content was of some value.
@@anadialog Adjust your video camera's lens until the Marantz CD 94 player is in clear, sharp focus - THEN SHUT OFF your camera's AUTO-FOCUS so that it stays focused all the time on your subject matter. Now you can move your hands around to point at different features on the CD player and your camera will stay in focus.
Well, the main difference of the Philips CD-960 its the power supply that in the case of the Marantz its far superior, i dont really know mutch about the difference of the CDM1 and the CDM1-MKII but after making some research in my spare time regarding the best overall CD/transport/DAC players I came to the conclusion that the best its the Grundig CD-9009, and how I liked to get my hands on one!
Quite similar ro the Marantz looking at the components!
@@anadialog Grundig has two dedicated power supplies, and from the photos I've seen they seem to put all the best components at the time, even the A-9009 amplifier with a Damping Factor of 250 and which I "heard" say was based on PM-94 from Marantz, it has better specifications than the Marantz itself, I believe it was some kind of experience at the time, in terms of electronics they had the best and that's why I'm very curious to know how it will be in terms of sound, that's what I'm based on, and that's my opinion, if you happen to find a 9009 don't look back and I won't either! Best regards.
Well thanks for editing the disclaimer: the second track REALLY sounded fuller and more detailed by far. This does not shed a good light on audio tests and comparisons out of UA-cam…
Indeed!
Great video ! The 1541 was better : it rendered the bass overdrive with precision and the snare was more real too. I doubt that the soundcard could arrange this. Apart from the sabre 9018, I still think the 1541 was the best.
Pioneer PD93 owner here...beats Marantz ;-) 20bit D/A at its best...2xPCM63K vs 2xTDA1541A ... both are awesome and used in some serious DACs today, like by Abbas Audio... sorry, FPGA-ultra-highend-vendors, for sure it is not the answer from on sonic prospective, sure technical ..