@@hmmm3210 Likes your own comment. But anyways, if you're giving criticism and can't convey it correctly, don't give it. And how would you say I'm from the U.S? Regardless is that an insult. Best country in the world? Autism isn't a joke, dont be a jerk.
Him and his brother have pretty average physiques for guys who go to the gym yet they act like bodybuilders suck and shouldn’t be big. They’re preaching the athlean x “train like an athlete” model when they aren’t even athletes themselves.
@@Shotty21000you’re looking at it from what a guy respects aesthetically. Women across the board prefer lean and athletic looking bodies, not jacked. Obviously exceptions exist but for every one girl that likes the guy men want to look like after hitting the gym, there’s 4 girls that prefer lean looking men that aren’t as big.
Core is not a limiting factor , it's LITERALLY PRESENT IN YOUR BODY TO STABLISE YOU. what do you mean you want to have good core strength and good abs without letting abs do their work naturally 😂😂😂
@@-et-8934 it's not , in a exercise like overhead press , I don't think isolation movements are gonna make huge difference and not only that you can also use your legs to cheat in the military press and get some more reps
Hi Martin! I have trained for the whole summer time as you said, standing up and i did compound lifts and now in school PE is like nothing, thanks for the advice!
Man you actually have a point this time , doing cable lat raises without a belt lol or doing overhead press would be a better variation of the exercise. Also Eubank doing lat raises with a belt on is hilarious
@cyberyousef7519 says the guy who plays fortnite or should i call it cancer for kids which are literally 2 mins out of their mothers womb. How about ya go to the fkin gym and have an actual argument before you sit on you lazy fat ass on your moms basment and call other people out bc of their pfp you snort curdling twat
Just had a open rack and did some standing overhead press and bro you are 100% right I’ve been doing seated for a year and I did this and I was suprsied how hard it was gonna do more free weights now fr
Hey that dude with the “lazy bodybuilder” on him at the beginning is at my gym. I love that place, it’s so cool to see it here. That guy is really cool too!
I must defend the standing press, it’s my favourite, it makes you feel like a badass, it builds huge delts and actually has fewer limiting factors in my opinion like the set up. If your core can’t handle what you press it’s probably because you skip leg day, this ironically enough makes front squats a good standing press/ push press accessory especially off high pins. mario is a dummy but he says something I can agree with sometimes
Standing overhead and lateral raises is how you actually get those boulder shoulders bro . SOP is so much harder to do because you’re not learning against something and engaging your core
For all you scrolling: all of Mario and Martin’s advice works if you’re a novice to maybe early intermediate lifter. The movements they do work really well if you’re benching around 225-275 and deadlifting mid 3 plates because there’s just not enough muscle and strength for fatigue to ACTUALLY accumulate and that’s why standing OHP and squat, bench and dead each at least once or twice a week work for them. However, as you get bigger and stronger as a natural, because you’re lifting heavy weight, your core and stabilizers will be inevitably sore and fatigued to where it will noticeably affect your other days. If you’re just starting out, maybe a year or two or less to lifting, it would possibly be a great idea to do these “functional” exercises as long as you have good form and aren’t being injured. If you’ve been lifting for 3.5+ years and are still able to OHP, squat, bench and deadlift once a week and work out 6 days a week, you’re either not natural or are lifting too light.
Yeah, at that point recovery becomes probably twice as important as the training itself. But the simple solution would probably to do 4-5 workouts sessions per week and to make a 2 week split instead of a one week split.
100% facts man. Overhead press develops pure power and will get your shoulders big af. It legit has no choice but to grow to compensate for heavy ass weight.
Your core will always be a limiting factor no matter how strong your core is. Even if you could do a respectable weight, your core would eventually reduce the amount of reps you could perform with good form. And if you goal is strictly to build mass than a seated is better for you.
This is one of the only exercises I can’t do standing up because I am 6’ 3” and my basement is 7 feet, so if I do it standing up it will go through the ceiling, so I have to do it sitting down
Now It is sinking in me what riosbrothers is telling us about fitness. They've been simply telling us that we have to keep our core strength in balance with every othwr muscle group, and in my opinion, I really agree with it
looks like you made ALL the weak ass core people mad in your video lol. I am happy that I started learning OHP the very first week of working out. now I can OHP 195lbs my bodyweight is 145lbs ❤
Another thing is that bodybuilders are only doing this to put on size. Doesn’t matter to them if it correlates to real world to them. Whether you call it aesthetic or not is subjective but their goals are differeny
The standing overhead press has made me the strongest out of all the exercises I do after I started doing them my bench pr went from 225-250 in a month
Bodybuilders who wears a belt on each and every single exercise doesn’t have weak ass cores they actually have decent core development bc they don’t know shit how a belt works or how to brace they just wear it bc it looks good or to show off that they own a belt. A belt is a tool used for HEAVY (1 rep maxes) sets to increase intra abdominal pressure to prevent the weight from collapsing your body.
And seated helps u just focus on press not using your legs or hopping a little like some people do to get it up. It helps you with form when you're seated
Thats why almost 3/4 of my exercises are compound lifts and I do them all fully raw with no belt. OHP and other compound exercises made my body insanely strong, explosive and functional. I used to only use machines for working out but once i switched to only doing free weights I saw insane progress in terms of physique, strength and general fitness. Hope you do the same
The whole thing is this: with a barbell to add 5 pounds in the form of 2.5s on each side you are able to implement progressive overload much more efficiently because let’s say you can do 100 pounds for 5 reps, by adding 5 you have only effectively added 5% which is a reasonable amount of weight your body can adapt to. Secondly standing being a limiting factor for the movement is a dumb argument because I’d argue that the standing version is more of a compound movement so although you do less weight overall vs sitting, you proportionately are doing more because theirs no locked in position and leg drive from the floor vs if you were sitting with dumbells or barbell. Also there is a certain focus on the front delt that the standing OHP gives that is hard to work on otherwise, and to keep the elbows up and not break posture literally works your back the same way that unracking a front squat does.
Also my friend, I notice in your clip your chest is leaned back ever so slightly which means your almost doing a bit of a modified incline press standing . Try to keep your head and chest more parallel to the floor and when the bar path goes past your face lock it out as the top above your head but slightly back so that the bag is essentially behind you not infront of you. You’ll get better quality reps, and it’ll avoid the risk of injury
this is why nick smith does standing bench press
😂😂😂
Denali is taking over
@@faouri.FRRRR
@@faouri. he better Fr
@@faouri.Denali is satirical of a rios brother and that means he will always be smaller than them
This is why I shit standing up.
i unironically did that for a month due to stomach issues
well who doesn't?
@@newhybrid101bruh why would you out yourself like that 😂
@@newhybrid101how
Same bro but what I hate is the water hitting your ass tho
This is why you should bench press standing up
😂😂😂
No you supposed to do it levitating to engage every muscle in the body.This will also translate to real world activities
And standing hip thrust
Shoutout Nick Smith, the most aesthetic man on the planet
@@guccicombo2098💀
This is why the standing bench press is the greatest exercise ever conceived by man
using cables
Lying down on bench press is ok bc it still targets the core with the way you stabilise the weight
No I like to do levitating bench press and hip thrusts
That’s why Andrew ubelt is the most unaesthetic creature to exist
Who?
@@dariannisch7511Alex Eubank
Alex usebelt
blud called him a creature 💀
As he’s more aesthetic than Mario
This is why i do leg presses standing up
😂😂😂
bros leg pressin the earth mass
i mean those are basically squats
A squat?
This is why we should all do hip thrusts standing up
😂😂😂
bet turn around n I’ll spot you
@@moneymakinmitch8130😥
@@moneymakinmitch8130Ayo 🤣
🤨😂
bro desperately needs a new comment section goddamn
its the same shit its unoriginal and annoying at first i found it funny asf but now its goofy
Same
@@carlgrimes662Tbf Mario Rios is also kinda goofy.
Agreed, lames keep spamming the same comment.
needing a new comment section keeping you big as hell
saying core is limiting factor is same as allen eubelt and calvin bumstead is more aesthetic that leon aestheticwards
Speak coherently. 💀
what kind of english are you speaking bruh
@@chiggamanchildMario and Martin rios language
@@theunstopablegoathow about you learn to decipher better. Us Autists run the internet. #TeamAutism
@@hmmm3210 Likes your own comment. But anyways, if you're giving criticism and can't convey it correctly, don't give it.
And how would you say I'm from the U.S?
Regardless is that an insult. Best country in the world?
Autism isn't a joke, dont be a jerk.
This is why i walk standing up as it is functional and engages my core
I completely agree with you. Standing overhead press is one of the best exercises and one of my favourite exercises to do
When I do it I can feel all the muscles of my upper body working together ( my shoulders, my back, my pecs, triceps ) and my testosterone blow up
@@someonepassionatesame bro. When you do .90 of ur bw for reps fully raw it feels insane.
Bro's talking about the standing overhead press is useless, when he looks like He steals milk from Walmart
😂😂😂
That’s why you train core, relying on compounds for supplementation of other muscle groups isn’t optimal.
Truly a crazy idea.
Bros delts speaks for himselfs💀💀💀
Him and his brother have pretty average physiques for guys who go to the gym yet they act like bodybuilders suck and shouldn’t be big. They’re preaching the athlean x “train like an athlete” model when they aren’t even athletes themselves.
@@Shotty21000you’re looking at it from what a guy respects aesthetically. Women across the board prefer lean and athletic looking bodies, not jacked.
Obviously exceptions exist but for every one girl that likes the guy men want to look like after hitting the gym, there’s 4 girls that prefer lean looking men that aren’t as big.
@WS-47ha yes you can. *In general* attractiveness is based on aesthetics
@WS-47haThose two are synonymous. What are you talking about?
@WS-47ha So who does? Other men? Listen, I'm more of a liberal myself so I'm not saying this to shame you. But you might be gay/bi
Upside down dumbbell shrugs is the most optimal core engaging workout and the most criticized in the fitness industry as well
Bro the standing ohp makes me feel menacing
This is why i sit down standing up
That's why I never sit on a chair because it takes the core out of sitting 💀😂
Bro sleeps standing for core activation
Thats why Nick Smith is more aesthetic than Leon Edwards
Core is not a limiting factor , it's LITERALLY PRESENT IN YOUR BODY TO STABLISE YOU. what do you mean you want to have good core strength and good abs without letting abs do their work naturally 😂😂😂
It is a limiting factor if ur trying to build muscle which is what they’re trying to do
@@-et-8934you'll still build muscle with these "limiting factors" while also getting the core benefits with ohp.
@@-et-8934it’s a limiting factor for those gym influencers because they haven’t trained it in years and therefore their cores are weak af
@@-et-8934 it's not , in a exercise like overhead press , I don't think isolation movements are gonna make huge difference and not only that you can also use your legs to cheat in the military press and get some more reps
@@-et-8934 it’s not a limiting factor if you have a core as strong as it’s supposed to be
This is why Mario Rios had a unprotected "workout" with Leon Edwards
Hi Martin! I have trained for the whole summer time as you said, standing up and i did compound lifts and now in school PE is like nothing, thanks for the advice!
When has anyone failed a overhead press because their back Or core failed
There’s a reason Arnold always had standing OH press on his shoulder routine .
The OhP imo is the best way to test someone’s true strength
That's right it's also very good for testosterone ! Incredible exercise
My max is 135 I guess I’m weak asf then
@@Lowclasswarrior778 135 lbs for ohp is really good bro
@@Lowclasswarrior778no you're not. you're probably stronger now but 135 lbs standing barbell OHP is strong compared to average, I think.
@@baran_caykoyupgeliyom5509I’m at 155 now can’t believe it lol
guys remember that you can train your core seperately with the suitcase deadlift or banded suitcase walk
This is why i run sitting down
Man you actually have a point this time , doing cable lat raises without a belt lol or doing overhead press would be a better variation of the exercise. Also Eubank doing lat raises with a belt on is hilarious
This is why I do decline bench standing up
Bro is the inventor of dips 💀
Standing overhead press honestly feels amazing, I skip on seated db shoulder press and that instead now
And this is why Martin shit standing up to engage the core muscles
😂😂😂😂
That'a why Leon Edwards does push-ups standing up
That’s why Leon edwards takes a dump standing up
I get denali's vids and yours back to back now and it's funny af😭
This is why johnny sins has the most aesthetic physique
I dont have a barbell, but i have many dumbells. Will a one handed, standed overhead press train core and shoulders?
I shit standing for more core activation
Quick tip Mario, when you do a shoulder workout, you want to grow your SHOULDERS.
Ok makes sense but why put the lat pull down clip in. How are you supposed to do that standing up
Got to say, he got a point.
Dont encourage him, mate or he might actually start making vids that make sense
@@orion-nc4xb anime pfp leave this channel
@cyberyousef7519 says the guy who plays fortnite or should i call it cancer for kids which are literally 2 mins out of their mothers womb. How about ya go to the fkin gym and have an actual argument before you sit on you lazy fat ass on your moms basment and call other people out bc of their pfp you snort curdling twat
@@cyberyousef7519he’s right though
@@cyberyousef7519no he should stay totally fits rrtards like him
I just checked his account and his bio is "Making Fitness Great Again"
based
😂😂😂
He made it in his standing commentary knowledge
@@rahulsawant8369standing commentary knowledge to engage the core as opposed to seated commentary knowledge 💀
I totally agree with you on this one
I mean what's the use of strengthening your shoulders when you are loosening your core strength
You don’t magically lose core strength over one exercise wtf 😂
They literally make you stack boxes over head at fast food and warehouse jobs. It’s an essential human movement.
If you need to build shoulders better - sitting
If you need core and shoulders - standing
This dude will never stop criticizing people that look better than him
Just had a open rack and did some standing overhead press and bro you are 100% right I’ve been doing seated for a year and I did this and I was suprsied how hard it was gonna do more free weights now fr
Trust me bro i went from only doing machines to doing only free weights and my physique, strength and proportions blew up
Why does he always use a clip of a different bodybuilder when talking about a lazy body builder
Bro it’s a compound movement like bench and squat like technically for your shoulders he’s right
Hey that dude with the “lazy bodybuilder” on him at the beginning is at my gym. I love that place, it’s so cool to see it here. That guy is really cool too!
As home-workout person this is probably the first time I agree with you (I have a decent core strength)
I really hate it when people don't like to train their core, a strong core will give u good abs without having to train them
Yeah but alot of people just want to target the shoulders, they dont care about athletic abilities 💀
That's why I do leg curls standing up
I started doing the overhead press after watching this video months ago, and I've made major gains on my shoulders
I've been training stand up before I saw you and I never knew it was so good.
Calling bodybuilders lazy is like calling a you huge
This is why standing overhead press is amazing for getting Leon Edwards to respond to your texts
I must defend the standing press, it’s my favourite, it makes you feel like a badass, it builds huge delts and actually has fewer limiting factors in my opinion like the set up. If your core can’t handle what you press it’s probably because you skip leg day, this ironically enough makes front squats a good standing press/ push press accessory especially off high pins. mario is a dummy but he says something I can agree with sometimes
Theres a difference between and athletic build and a bulked build bro so chill
Home boy showed a clip and said sitting down when Alex eubank was doing lat pull downs, a completely different exercise than the one in question
Bro does not understand that bodybuilding isn’t about strength it’s about growing your muscles
This is why you should squat 650 upside down
Military press is like my favorite pushing motion. They feel so good
It’s IMO the coolest lift. Strict pressing a bunch of weight over your head just looks cool af.
Standing overhead and lateral raises is how you actually get those boulder shoulders bro . SOP is so much harder to do because you’re not learning against something and engaging your core
For all you scrolling: all of Mario and Martin’s advice works if you’re a novice to maybe early intermediate lifter. The movements they do work really well if you’re benching around 225-275 and deadlifting mid 3 plates because there’s just not enough muscle and strength for fatigue to ACTUALLY accumulate and that’s why standing OHP and squat, bench and dead each at least once or twice a week work for them. However, as you get bigger and stronger as a natural, because you’re lifting heavy weight, your core and stabilizers will be inevitably sore and fatigued to where it will noticeably affect your other days. If you’re just starting out, maybe a year or two or less to lifting, it would possibly be a great idea to do these “functional” exercises as long as you have good form and aren’t being injured. If you’ve been lifting for 3.5+ years and are still able to OHP, squat, bench and deadlift once a week and work out 6 days a week, you’re either not natural or are lifting too light.
Yeah, at that point recovery becomes probably twice as important as the training itself. But the simple solution would probably to do 4-5 workouts sessions per week and to make a 2 week split instead of a one week split.
This is why i do glute spreads standing up
I’ve actually dislocated my elbow twice in high school, so when I do overhead press it aggravates my elbow badly.
100% facts man. Overhead press develops pure power and will get your shoulders big af. It legit has no choice but to grow to compensate for heavy ass weight.
What about seated military press? You have to use your core with your shoulders and can over load your shoulders way more and safer.
Your core will always be a limiting factor no matter how strong your core is. Even if you could do a respectable weight, your core would eventually reduce the amount of reps you could perform with good form. And if you goal is strictly to build mass than a seated is better for you.
And that’s why aesthetic has the most leon edwards physique
This is one of the only exercises I can’t do standing up because I am 6’ 3” and my basement is 7 feet, so if I do it standing up it will go through the ceiling, so I have to do it sitting down
😂😂😂😂
do it outside lol
@@yhyhyh47 I can’t I live in Indiana I have 4 seasons lol
@@yhyhyh47 😂😂😂
Now It is sinking in me what riosbrothers is telling us about fitness. They've been simply telling us that we have to keep our core strength in balance with every othwr muscle group, and in my opinion, I really agree with it
looks like you made ALL the weak ass core people mad in your video lol.
I am happy that I started learning OHP the very first week of working out. now I can OHP 195lbs my bodyweight is 145lbs ❤
Another thing is that bodybuilders are only doing this to put on size. Doesn’t matter to them if it correlates to real world to them. Whether you call it aesthetic or not is subjective but their goals are differeny
Look up sadik hadzovic he’s an IFBB pro does all the compound lifts , including overhead military press also without the belt on the military press
This is why I do seated dumbbell squats for more tricep activation.
This is why I do hip thrusts face down
This is why lenoy edwards is the best shoulder exercise
Standing overhead press is the most humbling lift in the world
70% of my training is free weights. Squat, lunges, RDLift and leg extensions
Leg extensions?🤦♂️
The standing overhead press has made me the strongest out of all the exercises I do after I started doing them my bench pr went from 225-250 in a month
Martín, why do I feel a lot of pressure on the back of my neck when doing overhead press?
This is why I sleep standing up. I wanna develop my core and legs I don’t want to be lazy. 🏋🏾♀️
I want my shoulder strength to fall behind my core strength.
Torso crew checking in
Standing bench press and Nick smith is your favorite routine im assuming
Why did you cut the video?
This is why I do the standing bench press, as it engages my core
Bodybuilders who wears a belt on each and every single exercise doesn’t have weak ass cores they actually have decent core development bc they don’t know shit how a belt works or how to brace they just wear it bc it looks good or to show off that they own a belt.
A belt is a tool used for HEAVY (1 rep maxes) sets to increase intra abdominal pressure to prevent the weight from collapsing your body.
Elevated handstand push-ups >>>>>
This is why the standing bench press is more optimal
And seated helps u just focus on press not using your legs or hopping a little like some people do to get it up. It helps you with form when you're seated
And yet he still has a way better physic than you 😂
Thats why we train core on a seperate day its called isolating muscles on specific day to the maximum potential
EXACTLY what boy said!!
I can confirm this. Just started standing overhead press after months of doing seated dumbbell presses and my core is def not up for it.
Thats why almost 3/4 of my exercises are compound lifts and I do them all fully raw with no belt. OHP and other compound exercises made my body insanely strong, explosive and functional. I used to only use machines for working out but once i switched to only doing free weights I saw insane progress in terms of physique, strength and general fitness. Hope you do the same
I don't use machines just Calisthenics, freeweights and barbell exercises
The whole thing is this: with a barbell to add 5 pounds in the form of 2.5s on each side you are able to implement progressive overload much more efficiently because let’s say you can do 100 pounds for 5 reps, by adding 5 you have only effectively added 5% which is a reasonable amount of weight your body can adapt to.
Secondly standing being a limiting factor for the movement is a dumb argument because I’d argue that the standing version is more of a compound movement so although you do less weight overall vs sitting, you proportionately are doing more because theirs no locked in position and leg drive from the floor vs if you were sitting with dumbells or barbell. Also there is a certain focus on the front delt that the standing OHP gives that is hard to work on otherwise, and to keep the elbows up and not break posture literally works your back the same way that unracking a front squat does.
Also my friend, I notice in your clip your chest is leaned back ever so slightly which means your almost doing a bit of a modified incline press standing . Try to keep your head and chest more parallel to the floor and when the bar path goes past your face lock it out as the top above your head but slightly back so that the bag is essentially behind you not infront of you. You’ll get better quality reps, and it’ll avoid the risk of injury
100z agree that why when I train with Leon edwards I always do the standing knee head press
i do bodybuilding workouts and i do standing overhead press cos it’s good for shoulders and tris it’s still very isolating tho