A Perfect Speaker? SVS Prime Pinnacle is Darn Near Flawless
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The Best speakers for under $2,000 is my 22 year old Sonus Faber Concertos. Revel speakers are great with 1st order crossovers.. The best speakers in the world ALL ALL have 1st order crossovers, or no crossover at all, period! Old Thiel speakers with a 1st order crossover is great. B & W with 1st order crossover no good. Vandersteen is the best cheap 1st order crossover speaker. Most of the best speakers use. My Tube Audio Design speakers have no crossover, but they cant be found. Big woofers are not clear, I like only speakers with a 4 to 7 inch woofer. I only like speakers with ports & paper woofers.
I’ve had these for a couple years and I’ve really enjoyed them. They do a nice job with anything I throw at them. Nice job on the video!
Saturday speaker shootout. R700, t3’s, these speakers and maybe the lintons. 👍
now you're talking
Yes! We need this comparison to happen SOON! THANK YOU, IN ADVANCE
The R700s take it...with ease I would say.
Throw in the CerwinVega! SL15. For something different
Who won?
Great video... had my Pinnacle Towers for 10 months now and don't regret the decision to go SVS. Paired them with the Ultra Center as part of my 7.2.4 system. Glad you had a chance to review some full size speakers! I found a pair of Infinity Beta 20's (circa 2011) that I was going to replace with one of your recommended bookshelves for my 2.0 Stereo set up, but they sound so great I'm staying with them... at least for now.
My crystal ball says the secret amp is a Emotiva class D job. 👍🏻🔈 looking forward to hearing what it is
SVS Prime Pinnacle...bought a pair shortly after they came out and I love them. All SVS in 7.2.4 powered by a Denon X3800H and Emotiva BasX A3. Highly recommended!
Im about to get these speakers tomorrow. I will have an identical setup as you. Im excited lol
SVS make fantastic products. Not surprised by how much you enjoyed these. I remember when Josh Valour named the ultra towers his endgame speaker and bought them with his own money. I love their subs.
Very cool!
Fletch (“ It’s all ball bearings these days “ ) nice video. Glad to see you’re reviewing towers.
Great job, Randy! Always glad to watch your content. I’ve had brutal aluminum tweeters! Glad to hear these aren’t sibilant.
Awesome review. I know these push the cost for a lot of people, but since you wade into these waters from time to time, it would be nice to see a review of the Polk R 700's which are similar in price range. I would love to hear your opinion on soft dome tweeter vs the Ring tweeter on the Polk's. I think it would be a good head to head, build quality , size, power ratings. Im guessing the Polks might be harder to drive though, Keep up the great work.
Randy, PLEASE do a comparison review of these vs the R700’s. It would be fantastic to hear your thoughts on these two speakers.
Polk audio has a decent tweeter, granted but stop there. Polk cheaped out on the rest. The crossover, mids and bass drivers are really junk. The polk do not have the focus and clarity.
Great video as always! I LOVE how the bass robot was our fault!!! LOL
A couple of months ago I was researching these speakers to see if I could "duplicate" them DIY. I've put a fair amount of time and thought into this idea, but put it on the back burner for a different project, but after watching this review, I may just get back into the idea of attempting to duplicate these. I feel the crossover networks are going to pose quite a challenge since each woofer is tuned to a different frequency, not to mention making sure phase alignments are all in....align.
As far as the drivers go, I'm pretty sure they have a proprietary design from a known speaker driver manufacturer, but I think I can get close. Trying to see if I can build something as close as my ability will allow, but at a fraction of the cost.
PEACE!!
Really love your videos....Almost like being in your living room and listening to you in person. One request though could you let us hear some music on the equipment once in a while? Thankyou!
Thanks very much for this review. I still love my SVS Ultra bookshelves, and if these reviewed speakers sound as good as my bookshelves, then they will be a good buy. Thanks for your efforts and time.
Randy, I love the dedication to staying true to who you are: dad jokes, reality checks, owning your biases, and just generally being fair and honest. Its why I keep coming back 😊
Thank you for another great review, as a SVS sub-woofer owner I am quite interested and intrigued by their speakers and where they might go.
I've had the Prime Pinnacles for a year and a half. Absolutely love them.
What are you using to drive them? I'm considering these for a stereo pair, music only 😉
"Hey! It's all ball bearings nowadays." Fletch was such a quotable movie. Thanks for the review! I love towers for my mains. Still rocking my 4-way JBL L-5s.
Don't know if it is still there. Explanation: the URL I posted was for an ole Amiga mod file with the Fletch theme.
Like so many others have said, the R700 has enough hype that it probably deserves a comparison.
On the other hand, those speakers are enormous -- they're very nearly as wide as these things are deep.
The size of those and the Q Acoustics Concept 50 (nevermind the 50's price) has me leaning more Paradigm 800F, but I'll put these on the list. Thanks!
I am really happy with my Paradigms. Forget which series of floor standing speaker they are, but really sweet.
What about Bose?
I've had these for a while, and I love them. Great for post metal, nice and loud. Rock on bud
Have you tried them with jazz or classical?
Closest to jazz was some Plini, Arch Echo and some Polyphia. Some sax with Shining. Great speakers overall, and even better (to me) paired with 2 SVS SB-1000 pro subs.
Great review cheapaudioman. I am very happy with my Pinnacles
It's great, hearing all the comments about various speakers and system setups. I don't know a lot about most of the ones mentioned but as always; interesting. Whatever you have I would suggest tryin the elac unifi ub52 2.0s, just for the hell of it. Imo they are the best speaker for the price, the past year. Get em on sale if you can to just have them, even if not your main's.
The old Energys, no longer available, the UPPER line (Reference Connoisseur) not the entry, did aluminum dome very well,. It was actually diffiult to tell that they had a "metal" dome and that is saying something. I have an old set of RC-10 bookshelves. These were a nice two way 5.24". Small, sweet and more bass than you would expect from a speaker this size. With a top end that was clean but NOT fatiguing.
Great review! Please hold on to these and bring back the shoot-outs! Try to get the Polk Audio Reserve R700, whatever Klipsch is best under $2000, and 2 or 3 more brands under $2000 and do the Saturday Shoot-outs. Doesn't matter if some have dual 6 1/2 or dual 8's it's about what you get for the money!
Thanks so much for giving a human perception review of these SVS speakers instead of a computer printout of frequencies I haven't heard since I was 20 years old. I knew that SVS made excellent subs, but never considered them for main speakers. Now that you have me hooked, I looked at their Ultra Tower speaker and wondered if spending a little more $$ is worth it for the higher priced Ultra Towers. Looking at their Ultra Towers kinda reminds me of my Acoustic Research AR-1 Towers with amplified subs built in. Any comparison of the Prime Pinnacles to the Ultra Towers would be greatly appreciated!
Hi! Really like your content, keep up the good work! Would be really cool if you reviewed a pair of speakers from paradigm, they seem to be truly excellent but there is not that much talk about them in the community. They also make one of my hi-fi grails a subwoofer with 6x10" drivers😳
just got the jamo c97, i love them have a tube buffer and turned down the trebble on the eyeima products i have they sound great
Now, of course, you must review the Emotiva T3+.
Nice. Always love a sunday review
This is a good review. You include music and HT use which is the way many speakers are used. I'm evaluating both Ultra bookshelfs and Pinnacle Towers to replace Elac Debut 2.0 (5.25") L/R in 5.1.2 HT system (already using Ultra cc). 3.5-way and bass extension will likely make the Pinnacles win out.
It’s nice to have multiple sets of speakers.. Variety is the spice of life!🥳🤣
That's a Mormon thing isn't it?
Another great video. SVS seem like they have a great lineup of speakers, and these speakers look pretty darn sweet. "I'll have a steak sandwich, and a steak sandwich."
nailed it
The Bass Robot😂
😂😂
So far you’re 2 for 2 with me Randy, the Fosi phono pre I’ve had for a while and the Geshelli J2 Ak which turned up on Friday, both brilliant but I’m now ignoring my vinyl 😂
As always a great review. Everyone talks about Watts but not about current and dampening factor. If an amp doubles every Ohm load that helps as well. I pay no attention to Watts. Amplifiers with high current and a good dampening factors dont blow up speakers: they control the speakers movements. Especially in the bass.
Man I wish I had two grand for these. I'm currently using some Kenwood floor standers with built in ported 15 inch subs that sound pretty good and I paid zero for.
2 grand could get me so much landscaping done and enough nice plywood to finish all my cabinet projects.
I have these SVS Prime Pinnacle and TOTALLY happy with them. It shines with Hegel H190, Denafrips Pontus 2, 12th anniv. ed. and iFi Zen Streamer. A lot of bass, probably the most i ever had. Like Arendal suggest, i'm gonna try foam to put in a bass port... just a try to make the bass less obvious...
There was a speaker company called "Pinnacle" here on Long Island back in the day. Plainview NY.
Thought it was great in filming that I saw the reflection of a leg on the glossy speaker while try to see if you had filmed the secret amp you were running the speakers on
Magnetic grills would be sweet. No lie… Also wish their towers came in gloss white. These look really fun. Great video! Hope you get the prime towers in too one day and the ultra towers. I don’t think you have a bad time 😉. Svs makes good stuff! The pinnacle towers are on my short list for my two channel system. Right now running the svs ultras, but want more bass… would already done it if it wasn’t for the stairs on the way to where it lives. Cheers!
add a svs subwoofer
The Polk R700 is a similar price point. Another good 3 way tower speaker that does music and home theatre well is the CerwinVega! SL15. 🔈👍🏻
I would love to see a BLIND shootout with speakers at opposite ends of the price spectrum. For example, Fluance vs SVS, Elac vs Wharfedale and so on. Mostly just to satisfy my ignorance when it comes to the question of can I (anyone) hear a discernable difference between $1000 and $2000 speakers. I believe a lot of us normal speaker buyers (normal speakers, not normal buyers !), excluding the audiophile crowd, are in this sweet spot, price wise, and if I can save a thousand or so on speakers and turn that into a better AVR/amp, I might be better off?? This all takes on additional meaning if we bring in all the discussion around diminishing returns spending more on speakers.
So my Sub blew out after 15+ years of use, I guess I got my money’s worth? So the quest to get into Century 21 began. There are few big box listening rooms to sample unless you go to high end showrooms with 4 ohm speakers starting around $4,000 for the pair. I landed on this channel after watching reviews and comps of a variety of speakers in the $2 to $3k range. My music taste is across the board. I link to hear the plinking of piano keys, authentic vocals, and deep crisp bass tones. Your video pushed me over the edge with these SVS Prime towers. They’re on their way via fed ex. I’ll circle back with my comment on quality and sound. Thanks for your comprehensive description.
😅 I have the prime Pinnacle speakers I have an rxc 11 it's a 13 channel receiver so I went out and bought more so I can have 13 channelside and they sound awesome sound I'm watching an action movie I can hear the bass and the trouble I have sounds going all over my room I feel like I'm at a theater it is excellent I recommend them for everybody that has a surround system they make the best they also make subs I have Mark and Logan's subs on mine❤❤❤
Not a lot of competition at $1800?! 😳 Maybe I'm looking at this through European eyes but howzbout...
Kef q950
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Some kinda Dynaudio.
...many of which whisper sweet nothings into the ears or our S.O.'s who like design. I gotta 3000 micro. I love it. I'd have a hard time though selling Darth Vader's plinths of death here to the Mrs.
Great content as usual. If I could just suggest something - show us more footage of actual speakers as you review it, not just pictures of it.
I like the way you review your gear. If you can get them I'd like to here what you've got to say about the HECO Aurora 1000. These are about 12-13 hundred a pair.
Was close to getting these but am getting swayed to the Polk R700
You made the best choice!
Wow these are actually for sale in Europe for about the same price as well.
I would be interested in a comparison with the Emotiva towers
definitely
I’ve got SVS Prime towers and Emotiva T2+ towers. I did a whole comparison between the two in my home theater.
Overall sound, SVS wins but it’s a close fight. I kept the Emotivas in the home theater because they look better. I kept the SVS towers for music in another room.
@@A2-RC dang ok thank you for that information
I have the prime Pinnacle speakers they are excellent I have the whole system I have a 7 channel
I kind of guessed you would be into 3-ways!
Just an FYI, the Aiyima A07 is now $50 on Amazon ($64.99 and a $15 off coupon). The Aiyima A07 Pro is now available. It has Bluetooth and tone controls.
Hey @cheapaudioman, I'm considering these speakers for the next upgrade. Is the video old enough yet that you can reveal what the "secret" prerelease amplifier was that these speakers really liked? Thanks!
FLETCH! loved that movie!! Another good review!! 👌
How would you compare these to the Polk R700 and would Rega Elex-R at a conservative 70 watts be a good match for them?
I’m impressed with these also. You might try your favorite Elac UniFi UF52 against them. Not as much base and maybe not a Metallica pairing 😢. But for jazz, acoustic and vocals they are terrific. Just a thought…
Spot on. Old ears & damaged hearing, I went from a Elac Debut 5.2 center to SVS Ultra center in search of improved dialog. Got it, but wish that I had tried the Ultra vs an Elac Unifi 52 to be sure.
I am going to try the HSU CCB-8 if it sounds good will have 3 of them across . they are very easy to drive have a very large room so it help. Having 3 of the across solves a lot of issues center channel speakers have
they are also low on the price compared to most speakers
Bass robot? LMAO! I'm seriously thinking about getting these speakers in the near future (probably in the high gloss finish) or the newly-released KLH F2 Kendall in the maple veneer finish. I live in South Jersey and I recently learned World Wide Stereo has two locations in the Philly area, Ardmore and Montgomeryville, and they carry both speakers. I love the look of both speakers but I would prefer to audition them side-by-side before I make my final decision. I'm also patiently waiting for the release of the new Emotiva Airmotiv line....decisions, decisions. I already have the Emo C1+ CC and also their BasX A3 amp in my system but I'm looking to get a pair of mains which I'll enjoy for at least the next twenty years. I've read SVS has great customer service which is HUGE in my book. Thanks for the review. I'm an early subscriber and I still love your channel.
Great channel, Hi randy I really need your help I have a question please I have Yamaha RXV683 and I just added Emotiva A1 top firing atmos and receiver is set to 5.1.2 but I have noticed there is very little to no audio is coming from atmos speakers with atmos movies as well and I have disconnected all the speakers except the atmos and made sure there’s no audio or very little audio,
I have to say there is an album that was released to the general public in late 1974 and for me is probably the number one pick to listen through deciding which speakers to buy period. So here it is..
The Alan Parsons Project Tales of mystery and Imagination by Edgar Allan Poe this album goes to all different ranges of Music qualification some beautiful pounding Rock the most awesome orchestral true. The next pick for me is Mike oldfield's hergest ridge another would-be Mike oldfield's incantations live the 4 cd set Parts 1 2 3 and 4.... and lastly you for Pure Hard Rock and Elton called Masters of Reality by a band called Masters of Reality with lead singer Chris Goss listen to a little tune called kill the king it will certainly help you decide which speakers to buy
I have the prime Pinnacle speakers I like them a lot they actually have good sound lots of bass I have seven channel system I have to make it 11 channel if I went to I have a Yamaha rxz 11 prime speakers are excellent sounds really great I have the piano black gloss which I like a lot I listen to music with it and also I listen to surround sound when I'm listening action movies I recommend them if anybody has a good surround system they are excellent to speakers the whole entire set😊😊😊
Been debating these or the slightly older ELAC Unifi 2.0 towers and center. Mostly home theatre use. Powered by a beefy Yamaha A4A 36 pounder.
Hi Randy: Are you going to review the new Aiyima T9 PRO model any time soon? Quite a few changes from the T9.
I'd like you to do a head-to-head-to-head with the Emotiva towers and LRS+. I know the LRS won't dig as deep in the bass department, but I wonder if the incredible Magnepan clarity will make up for that in your head.
I'd still like to get a pair of those and try them out
@@cheapaudioman Magnepans might well also be in the cards for me.
Have you considered how the tuning of the drums in the room impacts the overall sound of the speakers?
They seem like a tough sell compared to a Kali IN-8 plus a sub system that should be the current mid-range standard unless someone wants to move up to high end stuff and Genelec.
I would be worried about the vertical dispersion of these if someone does anything other than listen at ear level with thick carpets and some ceiling treatment.
I just purchased these. We'll see! :-)
Thanks
hey Randy, how would you compare the sound against your CSS Critons?
I would like to upgrade from old Infinity Primus 360 towers. Would this be a worthwhile upgrade for mostly home theater use?
Thanks!
You bet!
Fletch!! The synth soundtrack in that film from Harold Faltermeyer is awesome. It’s close to Axel F, but better. That guy is awesome. So is Fletch. It’s all ball bearings these days.
For $2k with a piano gloss black finish I don't want to look at plastic pimples, you damn right I want magnets. My Emotiva B1+ has them at approx 1/8 the price ffs!
I have some ultras that I love then ended up buying 7 of them in total and 2 subwoofers.
I have a pair of ADS L880s with 10" woofers. I can't get used to the the thought of small woofers, even if there are multiples...
Hi, what do you think about aiyima a07 pro? It's like a07 with tone control and OP amp chips I think, not sure though. Not much more expensive then a07
please review the Emotiva T 3 + and compare them with these pinnacles
I love my SVS primes
I’m torn between this and ultra bookshelf. I will be having 2 pb2000 pros to pair, which one should i buy? The ultra bookshelf or this?
I was in the same dilemma. My listening position was on the closer side at 7ft and the pinnacles sounded very full and detailed. I compared with the SVS Ultra bookshelves and noticed it to be easier to get the sweet spot for sound stage with the bookshelves. Also cause the tweeter is slightly higher up on my stands than the towers. The Pinnacles really benefit when pulling away from the back wall and if I had the space to position better I would have went with the towers.. Still happy with either one at the end of the day though
What amp would you recommend for this speaker?
Polk R700 Reserve is the best floor standing speaker in the $1000 (each) range.
How about comparing this with polk R700 and Def tech D17s should be a good shoot out
Lots of competition in the 1 to 2k range - calling these the best? I wonder how these compare to the Polk Reserve R700's for MUCH less. Or the Emotiva T2+ for less or the T3+ for the same money.
[edit] Ah! Changed the video title to something more vague but still precocious. Perfect < Best? Either way, good work Randy. TBH I get that you have to put over the top language in video titles to drive engagement (Veritasium has a GREAT video on the topic) so I probably shouldn't have even commented on it. Ironically it worked - got me to comment.
The r700’s are about $400 more… unless on sale.
@@JohnSeitz true - i see i happened to find a sale price when i wrote that
How do these compare to the Emotiva Airmotiv T3+
Newbie question. Pair these with a Bluesound POWERNODE N330 (80 watts) ? Thoughts?
Liked and immediately subscribed - could you review Dynaudio's Emit 30 for us please? Emit 30's are under $2,000 a pair. I have a pair of Dynaudio Audience 72SE's that punch way above their weight. I like them better than some KEF and Harbeth speakers I own. Dynaudio designs and manufactures all of the drivers "in-house" as they say - seems to be working imho. Thanks .
It would be cool if you built the CSS towers for a DIY style comparison with the commercially available stuff. Yes I’m a CSS fan boy, it’s your fault! 😂
Would you quantify what you mean when you say that they're even better with more power? How much power is more power? Thanks!
I have these speakers and I would also like to know what more power means. I am driving them with a Denon 3700 in 5.1.4 all SVS.
How would you compare them to kef q950? Or even to q750? Struggling to find some information. 🙏
How do the JBL 580 or 590 speakers compare? They go on sale all the time and seem like a natural for a cheapaudioman review.
I would have gotten the Emotiva instead. Cheaper for about the same or better sound.
They are like budget Dynaudiio. The sound profile of SVS mirrors the response you get from dynaudio towers.
cool. never heard a dynaudio
Any reviews for the SVS Prime Wireless Pro coming?
Are these svs prime better than Martin Logan motion 20? I’m just getting into a home theater system I just got the ML motion 20 a B&W sub and a ML motion 8 center to start. But I feel like it’s missing some sounds like guns and buildings falling down like I’m missing background noise or something. Any advice please? Thank you
I figure these speakers with the Prime Wireless Pro SoundBase is all I need?
I just want a nice hassle free stereo system with enough bass extension for movies/music without buying an AVR+surround/centre speakers+subwoofer.
Would the SVS Prime Wireless Pro SoundBase have enough power to drive these speakers?
please help me with your knowledge. i am looking for towers and have narrowed it down to svs prime pinnacle or adrenal sound 1961 towers. what are your thoughts, i have a large room 24' x 30' with 10' ceiling. i have a emotiva XPA-5 so 200wpc available. looking for HT mostly and music secondly.
OMG Siri, I have four of these in two separate rooms two pair in each room eight of them total in the pound concrete I love them
About the Linton similarities, even though many people say the Linton is a "fun" speaker, they 'measure' surprisingly well. There's an Italian sound engineer of classical music who thinks they could be reference monitors if the tweeter had a little bit more clarity and detail. How about them apples, eh?
How about the imaging and soundstage?
I have these for my left and right. I have the ultra center for my... center. I am considering selling the center and getting another pinnacle for the center. I have always heard that having the same speaker for the front three is always best. How would I test this? Should I put on of my pinnacles on the center channel and just run mono and then compare that to the ultra center?
No, don’t! I talked with them before buying. They said the ultra center is timber matched to the prime pinnacle towers and a better choice & after using for 2 years I fully agree
The RP 8000f don't have a midrange,and the mids are quite good,I like how you measure, according to alcoholics, measurements , they are missing a base driver,it's hard to believe that!