Hello. MicroHowler taking on Goliath in the initial testing stages. Doing well I might ad. The description area has the timed runs as well as the technical data & differentials of these two - separated by 3 model sizes. Thanks for watching.
That 400 is impressive! I've got mine in stock non wrap trim with a 20 light bar and it's like a fighter jet! Keeps up with and surpasses my 500i in a lot of ways. A 661 is on my don't need it but really kinda want it list. We'll see what the future brings. Great job Jack... Keep it up!
Good job Jack!! There's something about the 400 that's got my attention!! OK now you need to run a 562xp& the 400 Jack you you know how strong your 562xp is the little saw that could 💪
Belated... Sorry. Thank you. The 400s gobble up the 562s all things being equal. It's noticeable. Spent a fair amount of time this last fall with my 400. Busheling. Sporting an Oregon lw 30" bar. My personal 400 runs a little better than this one. The featured 400 here can be seen running close to a stock 661 welding a "36"" bar in another video. A 661 is three saws ahead in Stihl's model lineup. We are talking a saw that weighs less than a 562 & ½ of a pound more than a ms362 - the "60" cc class leader in the low mass category. It is not that a 562 is a slouch, because they most definitely are not. 562s give up almost 7cc of displacement. The engine design is nearly identical between a 562 & 400 so neither has the "one up" on the other. If anything, the 562 might get the nod for better charge delivery characteristics. No appreciable advantage in engine design and down a large amount of displacement. The 562 is never going to come out on top, again, all things being equal. Thanks for watching.
@hotsaws101 Thanks, exactly the answer that I was looking for. I am about to become a pro, and since we don't use those long bars in Europe, I think it will be a great one saw plan to be completed with ms661 in the future. Nobody is really doing a port job here, I have tried for myself, and I seem to like the outcome, but for daily use I am gonna stick with setting a squish band and MM, at least for now, just to be safe. Wish You could give us some porting tips for more torque. All the best, Sir!
It would be interesting to know what the horsepower numbers are at this point with this 400. I have one good 30" bar left, I don't use it as often as a 28" or a 32" The Tsumura light bars have held up very well for me.
Is there anything that can be done to improve the oil pump on the MS400?To me,with a 28 inch bar,the oiling seemed not so good.Thanks for another awesome video.
I just installed a high output oil pump (Stihl part number 1128 640 3250) in my 400. It was straight plug and play, no mods needed, and took about ten minutes to do. Brian2bears has a video on how to do it here, just search the part number I mentioned here on UA-cam, and you’ll find it.
both saws sound and cut great...so why was the cylinder cover plastic flopping around loose on the 661...wasn't tighten down? Thank you for the video. Shoe
whitetitanium88 hi. They are for different timber, and therefore, bar sizes. Your probably correct though. I can only get a 400 to run (sorta) with a 661. The TM 461 runs right with an 088. Thanks for watching.
Hey there are all bread chainsaw , get some 95cc to 105cc . Them you might hang around with west coast boys . 500 i own 79cc give about little bread saw .
Mr. Jack, at this point your R&D investment with 3 top-end assemblies $1200+ a cylinder/air-box cover, various air-filters, oiler internals, maybe more....
Hey jack are you impressed with the 400? I haven't even run one and I am. No full wrap?! I can't wrap my head around that! What the heck stihl?! Mint vids man, always a good day when u full send a new video!👌
The Lumberjack Jackyl Composition: Jesse James Dupree Ha haaa I was born in the backwoods Of a two-bit nowhere town Fathered up some rock 'n' roll (baby) So your mothers could boogie down I ain't whistling Dixie No I'm a rebel with a groove All around the world the go 'round and 'round When they dig on my new stainless steel sound oh yeah I'm said a lumberjack baby And I'm gonna cut you down to size I'm a lumberjack now baby And you're the one you're the one that gets my prize When you hear my motor running You know I surely be coppin' a rise Oh! So I'm gonna crank it up down the alley and jack it Woo I'm a lumberjack now baby I'm a lumberjack now baby I'm a lumberjack now baby Ohh I'm a lumberjack now baby But I ain't jacked my lumber baby Since my chainsaw you (Oh yeah) Ha haaa Whether you like it or whether you don't woo That's the way we like it
Quick question from someone who has never owned a breathed upon saw in their life (30 years on and off cutting) and who runs stock chains . Why don't you use the dogs to allow the saws to demonstrate their torque under load? No agenda here sir just a question from a curious on-looker who routinely pivots the saw around the dogs. Regards from Scotland.
Hello. MicroHowler taking on Goliath in the initial testing stages. Doing well I might ad. The description area has the timed runs as well as the technical data & differentials of these two - separated by 3 model sizes. Thanks for watching.
That 400 is impressive! I've got mine in stock non wrap trim with a 20 light bar and it's like a fighter jet! Keeps up with and surpasses my 500i in a lot of ways. A 661 is on my don't need it but really kinda want it list. We'll see what the future brings. Great job Jack... Keep it up!
Cutting knots with .06” rakers, impressive! 🇨🇦🇺🇸
Good job Jack!! There's something about the 400 that's got my attention!! OK now you need to run a 562xp& the 400 Jack you you know how strong your 562xp is the little saw that could 💪
Belated... Sorry.
Thank you.
The 400s gobble up the 562s all things being equal. It's noticeable. Spent a fair amount of time this last fall with my 400. Busheling. Sporting an Oregon lw 30" bar.
My personal 400 runs a little better than this one. The featured 400 here can be seen running close to a stock 661 welding a "36"" bar in another video. A 661 is three saws ahead in Stihl's model lineup.
We are talking a saw that weighs less than a 562 & ½ of a pound more than a ms362 - the "60" cc class leader in the low mass category.
It is not that a 562 is a slouch, because they most definitely are not. 562s give up almost 7cc of displacement.
The engine design is nearly identical between a 562 & 400 so neither has the "one up" on the other. If anything, the 562 might get the nod for better charge delivery characteristics.
No appreciable advantage in engine design and down a large amount of displacement. The 562 is never going to come out on top, again, all things being equal.
Thanks for watching.
@hotsaws101 Thanks, exactly the answer that I was looking for. I am about to become a pro, and since we don't use those long bars in Europe, I think it will be a great one saw plan to be completed with ms661 in the future. Nobody is really doing a port job here, I have tried for myself, and I seem to like the outcome, but for daily use I am gonna stick with setting a squish band and MM, at least for now, just to be safe. Wish You could give us some porting tips for more torque. All the best, Sir!
That's an impressive "little" saw
It would be interesting to know what the horsepower numbers are at this point with this 400. I have one good 30" bar left, I don't use it as often as a 28" or a 32" The Tsumura light bars have held up very well for me.
Is there anything that can be done to improve the oil pump on the MS400?To me,with a 28 inch bar,the oiling seemed not so good.Thanks for another awesome video.
I believe you can make a 461 oiler work on them.
I just installed a high output oil pump (Stihl part number 1128 640 3250) in my 400. It was straight plug and play, no mods needed, and took about ten minutes to do. Brian2bears has a video on how to do it here, just search the part number I mentioned here on UA-cam, and you’ll find it.
both saws sound and cut great...so why was the cylinder cover plastic flopping around loose on the 661...wasn't tighten down? Thank you for the video. Shoe
In my mind the “Torque Monster” 461 is still the pound for pound champ. But maybe you might feel differently?
whitetitanium88 hi. They are for different timber, and therefore, bar sizes. Your probably correct though. I can only get a 400 to run (sorta) with a 661. The TM 461 runs right with an 088.
Thanks for watching.
Hey there are all bread chainsaw , get some 95cc to 105cc . Them you might hang around with west coast boys . 500 i own 79cc give about little bread saw .
Hey Jack what's the R stand for? My new 400c-m was only model I've saw
Jamie hi. Wrap. But I spooned that on.
Thanks for watching.
Mr. Jack, at this point your R&D investment with 3 top-end assemblies $1200+ a cylinder/air-box cover, various air-filters, oiler internals, maybe more....
Did that saw beat a 500i that you built?
Hey jack are you impressed with the 400? I haven't even run one and I am. No full wrap?! I can't wrap my head around that! What the heck stihl?! Mint vids man, always a good day when u full send a new video!👌
Jack are you accepting porting jobs? I’d like to get my MS362MC PHYSKO-is-ed!
Forrest hi. Email is the best 1st point of contact.
Thanks for watching.
The Lumberjack
Jackyl
Composition: Jesse James Dupree
Ha haaa
I was born in the backwoods
Of a two-bit nowhere town
Fathered up some rock 'n' roll (baby)
So your mothers could boogie down
I ain't whistling Dixie
No I'm a rebel with a groove
All around the world the go 'round and 'round
When they dig on my new stainless steel sound oh yeah
I'm said a lumberjack baby
And I'm gonna cut you down to size
I'm a lumberjack now baby
And you're the one you're the one that gets my prize
When you hear my motor running
You know I surely be coppin' a rise
Oh! So I'm gonna crank it up down the alley and jack it
Woo
I'm a lumberjack now baby
I'm a lumberjack now baby
I'm a lumberjack now baby
Ohh I'm a lumberjack now baby
But I ain't jacked my lumber baby
Since my chainsaw you
(Oh yeah)
Ha haaa
Whether you like it or whether you don't woo
That's the way we like it
Quick question from someone who has never owned a breathed upon saw in their life (30 years on and off cutting) and who runs stock chains . Why don't you use the dogs to allow the saws to demonstrate their torque under load? No agenda here sir just a question from a curious on-looker who routinely pivots the saw around the dogs. Regards from Scotland.
To me there’s a sweet spot you’ll find yrs cuttin where it falls through the wood fast as possible going straight down