Comparing Swiveling Pressure Washer Short Guns: Mosmatic vs MTM
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Troy Sowers and I talk through the differences between the Mosmatic Pressure Washer Gun versus the MTM SGS-28. Both have integrated swivels, but there are subtle differences between the two.
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Its important to have a gun with the ceramic valve set up. So much better. And last longer and great for heat. We sell the stainless.
The stainless overall lasts longer ger then brass.
Hmmm... my Mosmatic gun's swivel is VERY stiff compared to this one (5:55) mine wont turn with two fingers I have to grab it properly to turn the swivel.
EDIT: So glad I saw how loose it should be, turns out that the nylon housing was clamped too tight around the swivel, took a little Dremel sander and opened it up a bit, what a difference :-)
I have same problem. Maybe ill try your method :)
Got the MTM SG28S, and its working womders for the last two years.
Thanks Matt and OG. The mosmatic gun is the first pressure gun I've ever purchased. Now I'm spoiled for life!
I have both. After about 2 months of washing once a week my 28 swivel moves a lot like the mosmatic now. Just my experience with it. Both great guns but the mosmatic is built like a tank where the MTM is built like a hummer.
That's a great point.
I would get the MTM swiveling gun and a nice hose regardless of the pressure washer machine. From my experience, the swiveling gun and premium hose makes the biggest difference when it comes to user enjoyment. The machine also makes a difference, but from a direct contact user experience, the gun and hose are big.
Don't forget the foam Cannon
@@pullingthestrings5233 lol i bought all those already lol
I love my Mosmatic package I ordered from your store. I didn't know what I was missing.
I'm getting addicted to this channel...
Matt, have you ever thought about doing a comparison showing how fast and good someone can clean their car with your packages vs. the over the counter junk?
To me, the value prop is time saved and quality; which makes it worth the cost.
I'll have a lot of stuff coming up soon showing the output and uses of all of them.
Someone else would have to do it, Matt spends 25 minutes talking about cleaning a wheel, which is partly why I enjoy watching these videos. Haha
@@mpower5266 hahahahahaha, me too. The 'how' of doing something doesn't mean much at all if you don't tell me the 'why' (and how it works).
I've got the sgs28. Just had to recently rebuild the internals but love it non the less
Just sad how things like fittings cannot be produced in the US.
Love my sg28 would have been using the big old gun still if i hadn't come across this channel.
namek1925 does sg28 has integrated swivel?
Getting the MTM package for Christmas :D
whats the update on it how is it? looking to buy one soon myself
You would think, after changing positions on the 5th time. Matt would get a chair.
Bet troy is lol inside. The whole time.
i think he could care less and is not bothered lol still funny tho
Years later he sells chairs now lol
I bought it back when Matt sold the non-swiveling version and to be honest it doesn't bother me at all. Sure, I'd like to upgrade to the swiveling version but I don't have the need for it. Maybe when my SG-28 goes bad.
Just buy the swivel and put it on your sg28
In the future, I would like the Mosmatic.
Currently, I have MTM-SGS28 along with the PF-22. Its awesome.
Great video, Matt!👍
Haha Matt is in his element talking about this sort of stuff
Matt is the guy we all never knew we needed but reallly really needed
Have you looked at suppliers that the US commercial car wash industry uses? My trigger guns stand up to daily use/abuse for a couple of years before being replaced, primarily for cosmetic reasons.
I took your word that the Mosmatic was much better quality and bought 2 guns for our business. After about 5-6 weeks of use the trigger on both guns have failed. When the trigger is not pulled the gun is leaking through the wash tip of the gun. Kyle has told me that he cannot warranty the guns because of our heavy usage but that is why I bought the more expensive gun. Is there a replacement trigger part that I can purchase to repair the guns since I have so much money invested in them and essentially there is no warranty after purchase?
The only way that is happening is if you are dropping them on the ground. I have sold thousands of these guns and have seen may 5 fail due to something other than dropping them. All wear and tear pressure washer items have a 60 day warranty. You'd have to send them back to me to inspect. If they are all jacked up then that's on you.
Thank you for responding. Kyle has all but brushed me off with his last communication.
I had no way of contacting you except through Kyle. I sent a video to Kyle showing the leak and have not received a response.
The guns we purchased from you are really great guns except for the fact that they leak. We do not mistreat our equipment. Both guns look as new as the day we started using them so throwing them around is not something we do. We are a small company that has been in business for over 38 years and we take as much pride in our equipment as we do our customers.
As of Friday, one of the guns has stopped leaking but it has done that before. This problem from our experience will only get worse with usage and with both guns starting to leak in such a short period of time I can only guess that the problem will continue to get worse over the next few weeks. I was hoping to receive a more professional response from a company that claims to sell high quality equipment. In my long years of experience, I’ve learned that even the most reliable of products fail at times but to accuse the customer of abusing the product as the ONLY reason for failure is unreasonable.
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@@russelllindley9269 after all these years, did you ever get this sorted out?
@@pullingthestrings5233 No and I will never make another purchase from Obsessed Garage. If I treated my customers like they do I would run all my customers off. It is a shame that they would not stand behind their products.
@@russelllindley9269 this is why i want to go with the sgs28 instead. Italian made. I'm in the hunt for a gun, what is the best but not most expensive one so you recommend?
Saving my pennies for a package hopefully soon
Try Stäubli connectors as an overkill solution (Swiss) or Walther Präzision (German) 😉
Ich gehe mal davon aus du sprichst deutsch? 😅
Hast du einen Link dieser Schnellkupplungen? :)
Talking about swiveling, the swiveling only happens where the hose connects right? The end that connects to the wand, foam cannon or nozzle doesn't swivel correct? So if you were to hold the gun sideways (horizontally) with the foam cannon attached would the foam cannon pivot sideways as well or does it swivel and pivot downward due to gravity?
The gun is the valve. When the trigger is released, the pressure is off. The QDs past the outlet of the gun will all swivel when not under pressure.
I think the MTM is a superior gun, I have them both and it’s a lot better to use.
The MTM SGS 35 - if I was to incorporate a pump into my mains water supply in my garage (instead of a power washer) what pressure would I have to obtain to allow gun to operate efficiently along with a foam gun? Would it be an option to consider? Like you videos.
A while back, I bought a swivel separetly from MTM. It is very stiff.
As a diy that’s really getting into this space I don’t know which to buy..
www.obsessedgarage.com. The more money you spend, the better it is. OG Spec Mosmatic is the best.
Just watched a 17 minute video of two grown men sitting on the floor talking. What is life anymore?
Ha, ha...
@@ObsessedGarage It's enjoyable! Thanks for the great content!
And not even talking about sports or politics, but obsessing over the quality of connectors on a spray gun for washing cars. Its comforting to know there are others out there with my same kind of... condition. Thanks to UA-cam and the dedication of the content creators like Matt and Troy we are becoming more powerful by putting our nerd noggins together.
@Mitch
Fast forward to today and we realize a few things!
Hi Matt,
I have a honda powered gas pressure washer. I am constantly having to run back to the unit to turn it off and on for fear of wear on the internals. As I'm sure you know, Mosmatic offers their gun with a weeping option. Do you think this would allow me to leave the unit running during my wash period? If so, would I be able to order this gun through your store? Thanks in advance and thanks for all you do for the car care community.
I don't know much about gas pressure washers, but I think they are designed to run. We could certainly get you any Mosmatic part you want.
have you ever compared the suttner 2605 to the mosmatic, its half the price.
It's the same gun but missing the most important part... THE SWIVEL.
Obsessed Garage thanks but only important if you are using it everyday, not once a month, same as a 1200 dollar pressure washer. But thank you for the reply and all your info.
So aside from the guns is there actually any different between the mtm and mosmatic swivel attachment? One works better than the other? Biggest difference I see is that mtm swivel looks a tad smaller.
The Mosmatic swivel is fluid, so there is not hang up with it. The MTM is a much cheaper and is much less smooth.
Can you do a video on the MV925 vs these two???
I don't think we need a video for that. These two are the standard. It be like comparing a 911 and an M3 to a Pontiac Solstice.
Obsessed Garage WOW OK 👍🏼 well just figured that there are fans of yours that are ok with a quality product and don’t have to spend an arm an a leg for it. 🤷🏼♂️ anyway thanks for a response
@@vrsix95 Matt can be a brand name snob sometimes. I’ve had the MV925 for three years washing a minimum of one time per week. Still as good as new. The only thing I did was add a mosmatic swivel for 40 bucks.
@@weaverdetails4747 yep mine is still going strong!
Unfortunately I am in Scotland! I am now looking at buying a petrol pressure washer. I am eyeing the Wilks Genuine USA TX750i. Is that a good product and what would you recommend? Regards
Do I have to buy a second part to go with my waterhole to make it fit
What one fits onto a nilfisk pressure washer and comes with the adapter??
How about Idrobase quick disconnects?
Could you post or link what parts let the SGS-28 adapt to a Sun Joe as mentioned in the video.
Sounded just like Anthony jesilnik
Nice 👍🏼
Has anyone else ever tried suttner snub guns? I use their st-2700 and love it. I have the mtm swivel with all stainless qc's and the pf 22. How much better is the mosmatic swivel?
Suttner and Mosmatic have been in relationship for something like 50 years. Suttner produces the Mosmatic gun to their spec. Then Mosmatic installs their swivel on the inlet to the gun. It's a magical combination. The MTM swivel is junk in comparison. It doesn't make any sense to have an external inferior swivel and the extra bulk that comes with that when you can get the integrated Mosmatic/Suttner combo for 25 bucks more.
Hi there. Can you list for me all the necessary fittings/connectors I will have to purchase for my MV925 with swivel to make the unit quick release throughout. What fittings/connections will I require to convert my Karcher K7 to quick release throughout. Thanks
Why in the world would you buy that gun when you could get an MTM on Mosmatic? Stop listening to people that don't know anything about this.
@@ObsessedGarage Thanks for the advice. What connections/fittings do I need to order if I purchase the Mosmatic gun to convert to quick release along with my Karcher K7 being quick release. What model of this gun is best? Regards
Just get the gun with QDs from my store. It's all taped and torqued ready to roll.
you won't get play if you use NITO quick connect
Matt I'm looking to upgrade the screws on my mosmatic gun to ss. Do you offer anything or can you lead me in the right direction. Thanks
I'm not sure about that one. I have done that one yet.
Saw the price......Yea.......
$65 and $110
When are you releasing the OG spec swivel gun?
Who knows.... I'm still waiting on my final prototype to approve the start of production.
I have a MTM SGS-28 Swivel that I purchased from your store, and all of a sudden when I put anything into the MTM quick disconnect on the gun it won’t lock shut...any idea why?
QDs are consumable. They can last weeks up to years. It's always a good idea to have a few extra as replacements when they fail.
If I buy the sgs28 gun with the added quick disconnect option for the ryobi 1600 psi and the ryobi cobra jet hose on your site .. is there any other fittings or pieces I will need to connect all of it ?
Yes
I’m new to this game but Matt really needs to be more specific to which model he’s talking about. He’s jumping all over the place which forces the viewer to pause often to make sure you we understand. It’s seems rather lazy not to have planned this presentation out a little better. This is his living so I would think these details would be important if he wants to sell his product. I appreciate his passion but not his presentation as much.
Well, I had no problem following at all.
Are these weep versions?
They are not.
Obsessed Garage is your Og spec any different then the normal mosmatic with built in swivel non weep version? 5000 psi
Why your friend talking in the chair and you dont :( hai btw from indonesia :)
cause its not that big of a deal lol
What’s the best shorty power wash gun to buy ? My ryobi wand is a pain in the butt
Mosmatic
Does the deionized water help reduce flash rotor rust?
It does not.
What lubricant do you recommend for the quick disconnect nozzle on the MTM(where the foam cannon would attach to) to make it a bit smoother?
Coconut oil
None. Water and soap is the only lubricant your need.
It looks you guys are too lazy to shoot "a real comparison" video.
Pass me my baby bottle
bias review 😂
You guys need to cut the fat out your videos, it’s way too much
😂dude!! No shit huh?? Wtf did I just watch?? A conversation?
Fucking weird lol
8 minutes in and its unclear what models each one of you are guys are talking about. Sorry Charlie ... Disappointed.👎
Ha.... Sounds like your problem, not mine.
Actually, I got confused too and had to rewind to figure it out. I think the difference was the color on the side of the gun.
i wonder if you're so enamored with the mosmatic because of its high price which blinded your logic into thinking its the best. what testing has been done to show it really is the best? Mosmatic is a marketing company, they are not a manufacturer. Their pressure gun is made by Suttner which you can buy for $40 right now on amazon. If you take apart the suttner you will also see the ball bearing lever and same exact piping. They are identical minus the price, and the new label mosmatic put on it.
The gun is suttner but the swivel is mosmatic. you dont know what you're talking.
@@jtm1979 Wrong. Mosmatic don't make swivels. looks like you don't know what you're talking about either.
@@addictedtopussy69 lol really? Not sure if stupid or trolling.