I reread Bluestar's prophecy some time ago and Leopardfoot seemed surprisingly not embarassed telling Bluefur how Thistleclaw had had to sit on Tigerclaw, Leopardfoot's own full grown warrior son, so that he wouldn't go fight with some apprentices at a gathering... I was very confused. Maybe Erins forgot she was him mother?
Maybe it was by that point that Leopardfoot had realized that her son was too far gone, and the best she could do was attempt to deter any wrong doings he would attempt.
I find it very interesting that Tigerstar, who had an incredible, loving mother grew up to be such a monster, whereas Crookedstar, for example, had a shitty mother who hated him because he was no longer "pretty/handsome", grew up to be an exceptional leader and cat overall...something I find interesting...idk...probably just me lol
I honestly think this is more of what we could make up of Tigerstar’s mother from the context we got in the books and the understandable turmoil she’d have growing as a spirit in starclan and watching her son take lives
Mikyelle Mackel abusive at best, she actively encouraged his violence, as shown in 2 books, in both of them she only validates his belief that he's not good enough because his dad, and she tells him constantly he must fight and become the strongest cat, no matter what, because nobody will like or see him as a thunderclan cat if he doesn't.
@@siqxyre8473 That really never happened. Leopardfoot basically always just said Tigerkit couldnt do any wrong- understandable, she had to love him enough for her and Pinestar.
The little scene at the very end hit me so hard omfg 😭😭 I always wonder if tigerstar regretted the way he was, and how he lost everything because of it. But he became so addicted to it that he just kept going, until then. But we wont ever know, unfortunately.
YESYESYES. I love it, whole thing is beautiful and that little scene at the end? Incredibly sad but also a very fitting note for this video to ened on. My heart skipped a beat when I saw my part on screen. Thank you so much for this wonderful MAP.
Damn Tigerstar's relationship with Leopardfoot in this map words can't describe how much I love it I really wish it was in the books also your idea that after cats ghosts die they get another chance I love it I liked seeing Tigerstar at the end of it I wish that was Canon in the books as well
”some dreams die upon the vine” Retail was deputy for many moons. ”some they never had a chance” Lionheart died in less than six. That parts probably the second-best part. The first is when Leaopardfoot is sitting with her daughters and Tigerstar’s sisters are just as horrified. And the fact she might have had to see him ghost die just 🤯 this was awsome
I love that over time, Leopardfoot slowly started to noticed that something was wrong with Tigerpaw. It kinda shows that she may be wondering if thats why Pinestar/Pine left Thunderclan Edit: Its not Hal, but Pine I always thought that Pinestar was Hal until I found out that his kittypet name was Pine. But both of them look almost the same to me XD
ITS DONE! this is the first map I've participated in that's been completed and I am so fucking honoured for it to be alongside such amazing artists!!! Everyone did incredible!
oh my gosh this is a masterpiece. i love it so much and everybody did so amazing! it really shows how leopardfoot felt knowing about tigerstar's blood thirst and power hungry. this map describers everything. good job to everybody! :')
Amazing! Love to see Lepordfoot getting some attention! All the animators did great and is did ypu Spooky! She must have felt terrible watching her son become a monster while she could do nothing in Starclan.
OMG this turned out so amazing... I love this so much... it's so full of emotions! Im happy to be Part of this it's an gorgeous MAP and everybody did an amazing work! I can see how much effort was put into this and I love it.
Spooky this is amazing! The amount of emotion in that map is incredible and everyone do such a wonderful job!! I love the story and think the map is so unique❤️❤️
Omg this came out even better than I expected! Everyone did fantastic, both with their parts and thumbnail entries! Thank you so much for letting me participate!
Oh my gosh I love this map so much SCREeEE Leopardfoot is too underrated smh This map was amazing and I love the way Leopardfoot’s emotion was conveyed so well
Damn, I've never cried on an map before. i don't even like tigerstar but this increase my liking to him. I'd like to think that he still cared for his mother but his actions were so bad he couldn't give it up because it was too late. Dang, I FEEL LIKE A BOMB WENT STRAIGHT TO ME AND KILLED ME BRO😭 Edit: I'd also like to think that it was the cause of Thistleclaw's influence that made tigerstar a bad cat, he was only a young apprentice.
Wow! That was amazing! Can someone tell me if it's true that Leopardfoot forgave Pine for leaving her and their kits in Thunder Clan, and if they reconciled in Star Clan? I'm in doubt.
I love the apparition headcannon but here's how I'd change it slightly. They don't glow, so when drawing them they'd have an outline the colour of their fur, they have solid black eyes if they went to the dark forest and they have solid white eyes if they went to starclan, probably have no mouths but idk not sure on that one.
I feel so sorry for Leopardfoot and all the other moms who's kits turned to the dark forest suck as Willowpelt- Darkstripe, Poppydawn- Thistleclaw, Sasha- Hawkfrost, Yellowfang- brokenstar and i would feel bad for Nightcloud- Breezepelt but its kinda her fault as well as crowfeathers for making him join the dark forest
Leopardfoot... Imagine dying and watching her son become a monster because of her father and who knows else. Leopardfoot really didn't deserve Tigerstar and I've seen some people hate her for her birth of Tigerstar. But, with Brindleface, Ashfur got driven kind of mad later into the books, tagging with Squirrelflight, because he felt bad he couldn't save her. With Brightheart, when she mentored Jayfeather for awhile, she couldn't of helped him as well as she did, because she had an eye injury as well, Tigerstar leading the dogs. On the topic still, Brightheart would've chosen Swiftpaw instead of Cloudtail, and everything could've turned out completely different. There are more reasons, but I don't want to list them all. What I am saying is that the birth of Tigerstar wasn't necessarily fully bad, but yes it was horrible, and Leopardfoot doesn't deserve the kind of regret and hate she has. I mean. She went through Pinestar leaving, dying, her son becoming a murderer. Poor Leopardfoot.
Wait wait. Is the dark tabby, the grown one, Pinestar? He was ginger. This was a very well done map but kind of confusing because of Pinestars design (I kept thinking he was Tigerstar)
Pinestar’s design in this map typically has scars across his face, if you want more clarification you could send me a time stamp and I can tell you for sure! If it is Pinestar, then his design looks like Tigerstar, just based on my own interpretation, but this AU has recently got new designs to try and help with the defining points on characters!
@@spookypaws Oh, okay. Tigerstar has an iconic scar on his nose as well so I think that, along with their designs, got me mixed up. Ngl thought I still wish you made Pinestar his infamous bright ginger XD
@@spookypaws Ah, that makes more sense. However though, Id have made him maybe a red tabby or something, to show it was him? Idk. Either way, despite that, this was a very nice au.
Yo wait- hope anyone has said this but like listen my fellow fans. Tiger ‘ Star killed Red ‘ Tail because Spotted ‘ Leaf was his sister and a Medicine Cat. And maybe to him the medicine cat didn’t try hard enough to help his mother. He helped ( I think- I dunno maybe the attack was plotted by Tiger ‘ Star. I forgot ) kill Lion ‘ Heart out of Jealousy and Envy And tried to kill Blue ‘ Star because A: He envied her and B: I guess wanted revenge on his father since he left him as a Kit when he was leader I dunno- It was just me thinking
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I Love the ending line from leopardfoot "there's a bond that exists between mother and child but then again how would you know?" It just hit me hard.
I felt that ment he didn't really know one true feeling at all: Love
Same, honestly hit different...
Honestly that part fit it perfectly, but it's true.
😊😊😊😊
💚💚💚💚💚❤❤❤
Can we just get a moment of silence for all the momcats who had to watch their baby kits turn to the Dark Forest over time
Brindleface...sasha...leapordfoot...Yellowfang... I cant name anymore rn cuz im tired 👌🏻
And moms in real life, as well.
@@Grace-2010opwillowpelt too
@@Grace-2010opWillowpelt, like, her own son tried to kill his younger sister who was a KIT.
@@TururruuuuuuuuuuuuuAnd I guess Smoke (Darktail's mom) too
The last scene where Tigerstar came and smiled at Leopardfoot before disappearing made me almost cry
I reread Bluestar's prophecy some time ago and Leopardfoot seemed surprisingly not embarassed telling Bluefur how Thistleclaw had had to sit on Tigerclaw, Leopardfoot's own full grown warrior son, so that he wouldn't go fight with some apprentices at a gathering...
I was very confused. Maybe Erins forgot she was him mother?
Liljatupsu/Lilytuft or maybe she thought it was a little funny? Or maybe as a mother she thought it was cute? Idk, I’m just making up reasons now :p
@@roseyposey9903 We may never know...
Maybe it was by that point that Leopardfoot had realized that her son was too far gone, and the best she could do was attempt to deter any wrong doings he would attempt.
I find it very interesting that Tigerstar, who had an incredible, loving mother grew up to be such a monster, whereas Crookedstar, for example, had a shitty mother who hated him because he was no longer "pretty/handsome", grew up to be an exceptional leader and cat overall...something I find interesting...idk...probably just me lol
I agree! Then again, Tigerstar had a crappy mentor (Thistleclaw) and daddy issues which probably shaped his hatred for Firestar and his ambitions!
At the starclan and dark forest border, when leopardfoot turned away from tigerstar, I felt that, right in my heart, even thought I hate tigerstar.
What WAS Tigerstar’s relationship like with his mother? We never really saw that in the books. Unless I’m missing something.
I honestly think this is more of what we could make up of Tigerstar’s mother from the context we got in the books and the understandable turmoil she’d have growing as a spirit in starclan and watching her son take lives
Read Bluestar's prophecy, it gives a bit more background to their relationship.
Mikyelle Mackel abusive at best, she actively encouraged his violence, as shown in 2 books, in both of them she only validates his belief that he's not good enough because his dad, and she tells him constantly he must fight and become the strongest cat, no matter what, because nobody will like or see him as a thunderclan cat if he doesn't.
@@siqxyre8473 really I don't remember that or am I missing something idk I haven't touched bluestars prophecy in like 3 years
@@siqxyre8473 That really never happened. Leopardfoot basically always just said Tigerkit couldnt do any wrong- understandable, she had to love him enough for her and Pinestar.
The little scene at the very end hit me so hard omfg 😭😭
I always wonder if tigerstar regretted the way he was, and how he lost everything because of it. But he became so addicted to it that he just kept going, until then. But we wont ever know, unfortunately.
* repeatedly slams hands on table * AAAAAAAHHHH THIS IS AMAZING YOU ALL DID FANTASTIC!!!
OP IM SHAKING.... THE EMOTIONS.... I was enraptured the entire time. hands over my mouth. everyone did incredible.
I know I'm saying this 2 months after the map but you did the blood fantastically
@@starflayers thank you!
@@Draikinator your welcome!
*But then again.... how would you know?*
That hit my heart like a truck
YESYESYES. I love it, whole thing is beautiful and that little scene at the end? Incredibly sad but also a very fitting note for this video to ened on. My heart skipped a beat when I saw my part on screen. Thank you so much for this wonderful MAP.
What was your part?
Damn Tigerstar's relationship with Leopardfoot in this map words can't describe how much I love it I really wish it was in the books also your idea that after cats ghosts die they get another chance I love it I liked seeing Tigerstar at the end of it I wish that was Canon in the books as well
”some dreams die upon the vine”
Retail was deputy for many moons.
”some they never had a chance”
Lionheart died in less than six.
That parts probably the second-best part. The first is when Leaopardfoot is sitting with her daughters and Tigerstar’s sisters are just as horrified.
And the fact she might have had to see him ghost die just 🤯 this was awsome
I love that over time, Leopardfoot slowly started to noticed that something was wrong with Tigerpaw. It kinda shows that she may be wondering if thats why Pinestar/Pine left Thunderclan
Edit: Its not Hal, but Pine
I always thought that Pinestar was Hal until I found out that his kittypet name was Pine. But both of them look almost the same to me XD
I'm late but that means that raggedpelt aka star is kin to tigerstar
Ragged star*
Wait Pinestar is Hal?
Pinestar was still leader when in yellowfang’s secret, and it said Hal was a cat from outside the clans.
Plus, Pinestar is a red-brown tom with green eyes and Hal is a dark brown tabby tom.
ITS DONE! this is the first map I've participated in that's been completed and I am so fucking honoured for it to be alongside such amazing artists!!! Everyone did incredible!
oh my gosh this is a masterpiece. i love it so much and everybody did so amazing! it really shows how leopardfoot felt knowing about tigerstar's blood thirst and power hungry. this map describers everything. good job to everybody! :')
When leopardfoot said, "But then again... how would you now?" I got chills up my spine like CHILLS
Amazing! Love to see Lepordfoot getting some attention! All the animators did great and is did ypu Spooky! She must have felt terrible watching her son become a monster while she could do nothing in Starclan.
Oh hecc, that final part made my heart jump :’0
This looks beautiful!!! Everyone did phenomenal and the tone of the animation perfectly fits the song
Ahhh everyone did absolutely amazing!!!!!! this map is fantastic!
I was driven to tears with the emotions displayed in this wonderful map!
Tysm for letting me join! This was so beautiful and well draw as well as written!!
omg, aaaaaah, I'm always late, but this is fabulous, I'm shaking! Everyone did so well!!!
OH MY GOD
THIS IS COMPLETLY BEAUTIFIL
EVERYONE MADE A GREAT JOB! AAAAAA I LOVE THIS
THAT AMAZING I WAIT SO MUCH FOR THIS MAP AND HERE IT IS I LOVE IT!!!!!
OMG this turned out so amazing... I love this so much... it's so full of emotions! Im happy to be Part of this it's an gorgeous MAP and everybody did an amazing work! I can see how much effort was put into this and I love it.
The two dislikes are Tigerstar and His only friend
oh you mean darkstripe?
@Gracie Righetti That’s his boyfriend, he means Brokenstar.
@@tawnypelt69420 you fool. Dark stripe is always first to agree with Tiger star
I was so excited when I saw this video in my notifications
Also, the MAP is awesome! I loved it!
Why didn’t I comment another time? This MAP is stunning and the expressions are amazing! It’s so well scripted and everyone did so good!
This turned out absolutely amazing!!! I’m so glad I got the chance to participate alongside so many other amazing artists!
Spooky this is amazing! The amount of emotion in that map is incredible and everyone do such a wonderful job!! I love the story and think the map is so unique❤️❤️
This is absolutely beautiful. I feel so bad for Leopardfoot. 😢
This is amazing and the song it’s so emotional good job everyone.
This is so cute!!! Everyone did such a great job!!! I love it so much!!!
Omg this came out even better than I expected! Everyone did fantastic, both with their parts and thumbnail entries! Thank you so much for letting me participate!
oh this is so incredible?? everyone did great!! :'0
GLAD TO BE PART OF THIS!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
HALLELUJAH THIS IS PURE BEAUTY :3
Oh my gosh I love this map so much SCREeEE
Leopardfoot is too underrated smh
This map was amazing and I love the way Leopardfoot’s emotion was conveyed so well
Oh my goodness, thank you so much for letting me join, this turn out Beautifully
This is so gorgeous, my gosh!
This MAP was amazing!!!!!!! I love it im.crying
This is amazing! Well done everyone!
Yes?? FINALLY OMG
Thank you for letting me join, Spooky. ^^
YESSSSSSSS!!!! IVE BEEN WAITING FOREVER FOR THIS!! ITS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!
this is really beautiful, i'd never considered their relationship before. i'm glad this showed up in my recommended
Finally a Leopardfoot MAP!! I really liked Leopardfoot!
THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND EMOTIONAL
Thank you for letting me be a part of this wonderful project!
OMG!! I love this!!!!
Leopardfoot didn’t deserve this!
To have her only remaining kit turn into a monster and have her mate leave her...
Ugh.
But this is so good
Super underrated!!!
THIS IS TOO UNDERRATED!!!
Congratulations!! this a beautiful M.A.P!!!!!
I can't stop watching this!!! Leapordfoot is a good cat she didn't need this!!!
HOLY FRICK YES!!!!!!!!!
Perfect!
Leopard foot needs way more attention- she suffered more than meets the eye. She lost her mate, two kits, and gave birth to a monster
I JUST REALIZED TOMORROW THIS WILL 2 YEARS OLD IT FELT LIKE THIS CAME OUT YESTERDAY WTF
Damn, I've never cried on an map before. i don't even like tigerstar but this increase my liking to him. I'd like to think that he still cared for his mother but his actions were so bad he couldn't give it up because it was too late.
Dang, I FEEL LIKE A BOMB WENT STRAIGHT TO ME AND KILLED ME BRO😭
Edit: I'd also like to think that it was the cause of Thistleclaw's influence that made tigerstar a bad cat, he was only a young apprentice.
Amazing!
❤❤❤❤❤
Wow! That was amazing! Can someone tell me if it's true that Leopardfoot forgave Pine for leaving her and their kits in Thunder Clan, and if they reconciled in Star Clan? I'm in doubt.
1:21 WOAH.
I LOVE THIS AND I LOVE LEOPARDFOOT
Bruh I was just thinking about this MAP this morning
Anyways this shit gave me legit chills yall did GREAT
“There’s a bond that exists between mother and child”
Bullshit, my mom dipped when I was less than a year old and stole everything to go do heroin
Ahhhhh!! My girl Leopardfoot!!!!
I love the apparition headcannon but here's how I'd change it slightly. They don't glow, so when drawing them they'd have an outline the colour of their fur, they have solid black eyes if they went to the dark forest and they have solid white eyes if they went to starclan, probably have no mouths but idk not sure on that one.
Let’s be honest, the books did Leopardfoot dirty, and didn’t even give her time as a character.
2:56
You can, just for a moment, see the shock and regret tigerdtar has. Just for a tiny second
I'd like to think that Leopardfoot could be able to stop Tigerstar from becoming evil.
This is great how come I'm just now seeing this
😊😊😊😊
i feel like if leopardfoot didnt died and lived long like mistyfoot,tigerstar could not be evil damm someone wants to make an au?
YES YES YES ITS HERE AGHHHHH I KNOW IM LIKE HALF A YEAR LATE BUT FUCK IM EXCITED
I feel so sorry for Leopardfoot and all the other moms who's kits turned to the dark forest suck as Willowpelt- Darkstripe, Poppydawn- Thistleclaw, Sasha- Hawkfrost, Yellowfang- brokenstar and i would feel bad for Nightcloud- Breezepelt but its kinda her fault as well as crowfeathers for making him join the dark forest
Redtail is Tigerstar's uncle!
What!? And Tigerstar killed him!
Poor leopardfoot, because she died, her son became a...Evil cruel hypocrite.
Cool!)
This song would also fit bluestar
excuse me.. I have to dry my tears
:o
I just realized
Tigerstar s mom: LEOPARDfoot
Cat tigerstar joins forces with: LEOPARDstar
He got a thing for the leopard because of his mom
Poor leopard foot
I forgot this song TvT
Leopardfoot... Imagine dying and watching her son become a monster because of her father and who knows else. Leopardfoot really didn't deserve Tigerstar and I've seen some people hate her for her birth of Tigerstar. But, with Brindleface, Ashfur got driven kind of mad later into the books, tagging with Squirrelflight, because he felt bad he couldn't save her. With Brightheart, when she mentored Jayfeather for awhile, she couldn't of helped him as well as she did, because she had an eye injury as well, Tigerstar leading the dogs. On the topic still, Brightheart would've chosen Swiftpaw instead of Cloudtail, and everything could've turned out completely different. There are more reasons, but I don't want to list them all. What I am saying is that the birth of Tigerstar wasn't necessarily fully bad, but yes it was horrible, and Leopardfoot doesn't deserve the kind of regret and hate she has. I mean. She went through Pinestar leaving, dying, her son becoming a murderer. Poor Leopardfoot.
Swiftpaw and Brightheart are literally related!
Wait wait. Is the dark tabby, the grown one, Pinestar? He was ginger. This was a very well done map but kind of confusing because of Pinestars design (I kept thinking he was Tigerstar)
Pinestar’s design in this map typically has scars across his face, if you want more clarification you could send me a time stamp and I can tell you for sure! If it is Pinestar, then his design looks like Tigerstar, just based on my own interpretation, but this AU has recently got new designs to try and help with the defining points on characters!
@@spookypaws Oh, okay. Tigerstar has an iconic scar on his nose as well so I think that, along with their designs, got me mixed up. Ngl thought I still wish you made Pinestar his infamous bright ginger XD
I mostly did that to emphasize the relation between Tigerstar and his father with their appearance, that’s one of the key points in this AU!!
@@spookypaws Ah, that makes more sense. However though, Id have made him maybe a red tabby or something, to show it was him? Idk. Either way, despite that, this was a very nice au.
Leopardfur is completely misunderstood
ROT IN TRIBE OF ENDLESS HUNTING TIGERSTAR!
You just said the past name of riverclans leader before Mistystar.
Tribe of endless hunting? What?
Yo wait- hope anyone has said this but like listen my fellow fans.
Tiger ‘ Star killed Red ‘ Tail because Spotted ‘ Leaf was his sister and a Medicine Cat. And maybe to him the medicine cat didn’t try hard enough to help his mother.
He helped ( I think- I dunno maybe the attack was plotted by Tiger ‘ Star. I forgot ) kill Lion ‘ Heart out of Jealousy and Envy
And tried to kill Blue ‘ Star because A: He envied her and B: I guess wanted revenge on his father since he left him as a Kit when he was leader
I dunno- It was just me thinking
I'm S H O O K
atleast hes not completely heartless ouo
So sad
почему златошейка серая? чё за бред. мда
Ну...Мб потому что это не Златошейка?
@@Фалеса-т3з а можно было ещё позже ответить? В чем мем отвечать на комментарии столетней давности, лол.
Anyone in 2024 👇