Making Prussian Blue
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2024
- Today I'll be making Prussian Blue, which was the first modern synthetic pigment. For this video, I'll be isolating it and using it to make paint, but in the future, I''ll be diving into the whole process of cyanotyping.
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Hey NileRed, could you show us another ways to make Ethanol? From sugarkane, corn, potatos.
Zrób film o tym :) ua-cam.com/video/BtnCynfmBnc/v-deo.htmlm14s
next do egyptian blue!...
You can make it with your fecies
7:55 that blue dust is like one of the most beautiful shades of blue I've ever seen
If you glaze a fine layer of cobalt blue on white background, you have that color.
yves klein blue
Yes
@@cannaisuer2091 oh that IS nice
@@midnight_blue_moon ikr my favorite color
it’s fascinating to see him have all the patience and time to make prussian blue and little to no patience to paint with it 😂✌🏻
confidence difference 😂
Shall I keep this at 666 likes
No
_No I am not_
Also yes I wish I had his patience lmao
Different interests
me with sketching vs colouring/painting the line work
I giggled when I saw him use a dropper for the turpentine. It'a such a oddly specific way to add it lmao
And maybe we'll add a happy little molecule right … here.
Let's give him a little friend over here - everyone needs a friend.
Remember, this is your world. You can do anything you like.
Hattmannen Nilsson and then BEAT THE DEVIL OUT OF IT
:D
Yes
No mistakes just happy little accidents :)
Hattmannen Nilsson
FREINDSHIP SUCKS
until you make your house explode
7:05 "until it turned to a greenish-blue" ... also known as cyan! Cyanide gets its name from this exact color because it's in Prussian blue, and I find that very interesting. Most people would think the color and the compound are unrelated, but instead they are entwined
O M G!! thank you for this!!
ok
ok
that is not cyan
ok
Hi Nile, I found this very interesting. I've been using Prussian blue more than fifty years, as a machinist and tool maker, using it to spot metal to scrape to fit, and match the fit of pieces. It makes a very fine film, and one can easily secure fitment to tenths of a thousandth. I've bought two tubes of it in fifty years, the last was a decade ago, as oil paint, it gets crusty, but remains the film forming, crust knocked away. Thanks for doing this, I never have to worry about running out again.
It's such a shame that your comment didn't receive any likes.
@@lebakas_peppi he has 8 now, finally
youtube comments is stupider than you think. It will celebrate stupid or nonsense punchlines only. Smart, intellectual comments barely stand any chance.
Are you talking layout fluid or legit paint?
A Bob Ross classic color.
666th like :D
1kth like :D
i think pthalo blue was more ross-esque
up there with TITANIUM WHITE
@@gregoryberrycone iT's TitAnIUm HWit3
finally an actual "reaction video"
I love this comment 😂
your comment made me giggle for 5 minutes straight. absolutely gold
HA!
im wheezing
YES
HELL YES
My great-grandfather was the first to synthesize Prussian blue in America. He was a German chemist who emigrated. He did it in his San Francisco apartment kitchen in the early 1920s.
interesting!
thats cool, i thank your grandad for ultimate bob ross coolness
he souls be given a bob roos origonal
How do we know this isn’t a lie huh?
@@robohjhonson3711 let's just be chill and appreciate stuff. come, I'll treat you some ice cream, what flavor?
Nothing has ever made me feel as understood as this video. A professional chemist, that consistently makes 30+ minute long videos that contain crazy difficult and dangerous processes using chemistry, quits painting a butterfly because it got to difficulty and detailed. Thank you for this.
Just shows that everyones strengths lie at different areas. No one is perfect and its nice seeing that from time to time.
"The reaction seemed to be quite well-behaved."
(pat pat) Good reaction, have a cookie.
*obligatory john egbert comment*
xD
You should go bob ross mode and make some of that Titanium White... Phthalo Blue... Alizarin Crimson .... Sap Green ... Cadmium Yellow Hue
He'd have to be careful with the cadmium yellow; cadmium is super toxic.
@@lanadoesathing maybe some yellow ochre, then
@@lanadoesathing cadmium yellow hue, the word hue indicates that it isn't the real stuff. Besides that, cadmium isn't as bad as people make it out. The rate of skin to blood is super slow. It's much worse if it's eaten.
@@inquisitorgrand *Yella ochre
Titanium Hwite.
Makes paint.
Draws chemical structures.
Now he should pour HCl on it 😳😳
Checks out
That's how you identify a chemist
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like watching non/beginning artists pushibg themselves, like you did with the butterfly :) good job man!
Bruh I'm an artist and I couldn't do that butterfly..
@@catpoke9557 we're all different and that's okay ^^
From left to right:
1. Row: Potassium ferrocyanide, Indole, acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin)
2. Row: o-cresol, Nile red, Caffeine
3. Row: Salicylic acid, Nile blue
That is not indole it is skatole
The second one on the first row is skatole; the first on the second row is 2-isopropyl-5-methylpheno (thymol); and the first on the third row is methyl salicylate (oil of wintergreen).
Wait so you're telling me that the names of both of his channels were actually real chemicals all along?
The picture of a face at 11:15 is a precious moment. Your strong reaction to it reveals that art is deeply important to you. I remember my reaction to my first drawings when I took a drawing class at age 30. It was a very negative reaction, but after about 100 drawings I began to improve and made drawings that were often pleasing to look at. Your painting shows a natural talent for getting the paint on the paper and making a balanced and confident design. Art could be a helpful tool to communicate ideas about chemistry.
C:
Like an art teacher once said: "you have a hundred bad drawings in you that need to get out, before you get to the good drawings"
Such a happy little color. Can you do Titanium Hwite next?
BobTerje Bob Ross is that you?
He should start a series in which he makes a many different kinds of pigments.
Isn't this a very toxic pigment?
I am talking about the titanium white.
Gustavo Fernandes we all die at some point
10:55 1)hexacyanoferrate (II or III) 2)skatole 3)aspirin 4)menthol 5)nile red 6)caffine 7)methyl salicytate 8) 9-diethyloamino-5H-benziphenoxazin-5-iminium
Wow nice, i was only able to identify 5
I need nomenclature skills like this, hopefully by the time I'm in college I'm a fraction of the way there!
You should teach nomenclature
Thanks I was looking for this
How ironic, Prussian blue on Nile Red's channel
It is IRONic indeed
Andris Kovacs uh, nice one!
Jack Hudler yep, on an old video
Its a red dye. He drew the structure during this video on the first sheet.
Marky It’s abandoned, though.
My grandmothers(RIP) favorite paint color. She once gifted me a really nice set of oil paints from years before my time. it had this color in it.
imagine if you're a scientist and an artist at the same time you just make your own colors when you need them
That’s genius :^
There are some that exist, in fact many.
Da Vinci was one of them
Shitloads of painters DO do that.
But they specifically buy the already made pigments and just make their own paint medium with it, bc there is already a shitload of pigments available.
Granted, there are a few that are pretty expensive bc of rarity but actually creating your own of those pigments might not be practical financially.
Imagine you are Leonardo de vinchi. That's who you are describing after all.
Whenever you are making ferric chloride, I recommend making sure the steel wool is oxidized... The rustier the better. It will dissolve mor readily into the acid, and most of the time the carbon will have leached out and bonded with oxygen (the oxidation of steel tends to create carbon dioxide as a minor byproduct.) This will render a cleaner result.
Soak the steele wool in hydogen peroxide (store bought works just fine).
@A. Meowzki Build an hho generator using salt water, an strong power supply (dc is preferred by me) and steel wool
@Subhash Kommalapati well in the next step he oxidized the ferrous chloride with peroxide anyway so this is just mixing the 2 steps together to get a better result
You could just set it on fire, no? The stuff is flammable, and cheap.
"I could have just poured it in, but I put it in drop by drop because it looks cool,"
*My new favorite youtuber...*
Thanks
“Try to identify the molecules in the comments”
Comments: “Nile Ross” “now do titanium white” “Bob Ross :D”
Ah, yes, my favourite molecule *now do titanium white*
Actually titanium white is TiO2 so ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Cubert Pigg titanium hwite
"it looked like something a two-year old would make."
We all start somewhere Nile.
You went form doing chemistry to genuinely trying to make a painting for the first time in your life. You are so cute. Also the butterfly was so nicely sketched 🌸
as an artist I love seeing your scientific approach. It's literally the opposite of my own thinking and its refreshing to see other ways of thinking to get out of my own head. I also think it's funny how you called yourself lazy a few times but sir you're literally making a dye and other chemicals. That's pretty cool. Good job :)
I followed this same method to make my own Prussian Blue today, which is something I've been waiting a year to do.
Haven't been able to dry it out yet, but it's been an awesome project to work on, and very rewarding. It's not until you see it in person that you realise how fantastic the colour is too, pictures and videos really don't do it justice
"just for fun you shouild try to guess these molecules in the comments"... I'm a sophomore in high school what are you expecting from me *cries*
h2o is coming out of bob’s eyes
Freshman in college. Just means I can cry harder.
I'm almost about to graduate with a chemistry degree and I still blanked out 😭
@@rg9991 I'm in my last year in highschool and I figured it out. Just go check through the comments, I posted it there somewhere. As for strategies to figure it out, I mostly just tried to name the molecules and typed that into my search engine. As for the two huge molecules I just counted the number of atoms and surfed on the internet to find what their names were. It's impossible to look at the molecules and just know what they are, even if you are a graduate in chemistry. It takes some time, patience and persistence. I was literally just bored and I would also have given up, to be honest, but I needed something to do.
Serious props for posting your art. Even when you're a seasoned artist, it takes a lot of courage. Also, I didn't know oil paint was that simply made - you know, after you've gone to the trouble of synthesizing the pigment lol.
As a painter, watching this was especailly entertaining. I love this kind of shit, the interlap between art and science is what I live for.
Nile Ross
you deserve a reply
Drawing some happy little molecules.
I wouldn't want to use your kitchen for food, god knows what's in your oven and coffee grinder by now ;'D
GiggitySam Entz Don't worry, it's the lab 'kitchen'.😉
GiggitySam Entz yes I was wondering about his coffee grinder
Read this at the coffee grinder part
First thing I learned in chemistry was never to use lab containers / instruments for food storage or consumption. Same goes with potable water .
Lowkey, I liked the butterfly painting! It was cute and I liked how the inside of wings were lighter
Hi. Medical lab scientist here! We also use Prussian blue as a stain for bone marrow slides to evaluate iron storage. I didn’t realize it had so many other uses too! Thanks for this 😁
I'm an aspiring artist and I learned a lot from your art tutorial. This will be the quality I aspire to achieve in the future.
I would say using the gesso is a must. Otherwise the oil would seep in to the absorbant paper and over time deteorate it quickly in addition to decreasing the amount of binder in the paint which would also be a problem.
When applying the gesso try going in just one direction across the entire paper during the application of one layer. (As the paper is oriented on the screen: try going in a cross direction = left to right and next layer top to bottom) You don't need to have perfect coverage of the paper on your first layer - build it up over time ( specially with thinner paper(100g/m^2) try to not go over the same spot over too many times (in one layer). I noticed the gesso and the paint seemed quite thick try thinning the gesso down with water and the paint with turpentine.
Paper warping - the paper does worp when wet thou then stretches again when fully dry. (With some papers it's a problem even after drying they stay worped, but with an aquarelle paper at 300g/m^2 I would expect it to stretch just fine .) Perhaps try a very diluted coating of animal glue abbout 2-3dkg for 1l of water to pre strech it before applying the gesso. (Also why not use a brush to apply the gesso?)
Good effort, I enjoy your videos a lot.
11:44 You just learned the first lesson that everyone painting tabletop minis learns: THIN YOUR PAINTS ! Great video.
The Joy of Paining with Chemistry ;) I was waiting for that tile song to start playing :D
chemists be like:
oh shit I just spilled some heavy methal compound on my skin or ate it, better chug on some
18th century synthetic pigment made of cyanide to slow down the effects.
That's sounds so cool lmao
as an art student who likes chemistry on the side like a hobby i really and genuinely appreciate nile's effort in oil painting. not even in some sort of condescending way. the fact he went out of his way to prime his surface with gesso and ensure the paper didn't warp just genuinely shows respect to the craft, even if he's out of his element. i can appreciate that. watching that segment really took me back to the first pigments class i took
4:01 imagine if someone mistaken that for a Coca Cola drink
*dies*
good soy sauce
forbbiden coke
qwerty uiop MmMMMmmmMMm yum
Slirpy slurp sip sip
*makes paint*
*paints chemical structure*
what-
I love you and your channel so much. I flunked highschool Chem but just watching you paint so methodically made me smile so much, your narration is so funny, I love that you love what you do. As an art person I can't tell you much much joy it brings me to see you paint chemicals with a thing you made yourself. It simply cannot be more left brain... but you are an artist by creating these videos, thank you for this.
You followed a step by step guide to draw a butterfly. God i love you.
I've been an artist for about 7 years now, and I think your art is really good! No extra fluff about it being your first time or whatever, your art is good whether it was your first or three hundred and first time :)
i like how he gives a disclaimer for the painting but not for the messing around with the deadly chemicals
More synthetic colors would be neat!
Maybe mauveine, from a quinine rich source, like tonic water?
Prussian?
D I S C I P L I N E 150%
The Baguette discipline 1871%
Discipline
420%
When you opened the lid of the coffee grinder, the powder that flew was amazing!!!
The whole point of adding liquid white or gesso is to make your oil paints slide around a bit more easily and make the painting look sharper and help with blending because it helps to make the surface of the canvas smoother, taking away some of the friction. So you don't want to let it dry, and it won't be very helpful if you use watercolor paper instead of canvas. At least that's what my painter friend told me when I showed her this video.
All I can hear is Bob Ross whispering “Prussian Blue” into my ear.
Yes! My husband and I have been waiting for you to do this video. We love your channel!
Im glad you liked it!
NileRed thank you! Keep up the fantastic work!
Holly You piqued my curiosity. Do you have plans for using the pigment? I am going to see whether I can use it in making coloured glass for glassblowing.
Flavourless Josephus that sounds awesome, you should record your progress on video and upload it to UA-cam. I don’t have any plans for the dye itself (I just love the history of its use), but now that I think of it - dying some yarn would be nice, a dark blue crochet scarf or table runner would be beautiful. My husband does have plans to install a kiln in our garage, I’ll tell him about using pb for glass blowing. Tc!
Flavourless Josephus No, you definitely can't use Prussian blue for making colored glass. The dye will disintegrate WAY below the softening temperature of even ordinary soda-lime glass. It's no coincidence that almost all the pigments used in glassmaking are various metal oxides (which are pretty much the only compounds stable enough to withstand the high temperatures required).
Prussian Blue huh? Otto Von Bismarck is smiling in heaven
Which one?
W h o m
Oh damm thats where I live
BABAHA
HAHAHHAA
IM A NERD BECAUSE I GET IT BUT I LOVE THAT
Watch some Bob Ross!😉
Very good and informative video, by the way!👍😁
Michael Berthelsen
Bob ross's techniques require a specific wet coating on the canvas so you can work with the paint more on the canvas.
I thought that was what the "tutorial" was going to be. lol
a happy little molecule
He has Gesso...
you beat me to it.
My art teacher once said “everyone isn’t a pro when they first start”. Honestly when people tell me they can’t paint I just tell them what my art teacher said and also have fun, do you man.
I love seeing the art stuff in a hard science setting. Also the patience to use oil paints? i got that. The patience to make oil paint, no less homemade dye? Could never
Oil paint usually should be mulled a little longer because the longer you mull the paint the more pigmented and smooth it gets. This is making sure all of the powder is completely mixed and saturated with oil
It's easy to make K4Fe(CN)6 (pottasium ferrocyanide) by reducing K3Fe(CN)6 (pottasium ferricyanide) with KOH and H202 (diluted).
The Yield takes a hit though. But a good method that can be accomplished within an couple hours. Be careful with amount to much H202 can cause excessive heat generation.
Troy Selby-Karney for my experiment I used 3% H2O2, so there was no way for excess heat to come, and the yeald was remarcably good
Cool. I've only done it a few times so 3% H2O2 is a good catalyst cool. Used 10% and it caused a few heat issues for the first few drop additions. That's was nice to know.
ferrocyanide/iron(vi)cyanide, caffeine, salicylic acid, menthol, nile blue, and aspirin
I just recognized caffeine, i'm lame
11:02
bottom left: methyl salicylate
middle left: menthol
top left: ferrocyanide
middle: nile red
top middle: skatole
bottom right: nile blue
middle right: caffeine
top right: aspirin
only spend an hour on this lol
I work with pigment chemistry all the time, but never got to actually synthesize most of them. I am very impressed on how well it turned out! I’m looking forward for what is next.
RIP Bob Ross, Prussian Blue is strong blue, be careful
I prefer the term "discipline blue"
Please make a video on toxic waste disposal/neutralization of dangerous compounds e.g. manganese heptoxide
just reduce it and save it up in a container with other heavy metal salts.
Ive worked often enough with it... Thats why I said REDUCE it!
🎮 ms_swag 🎮 you already got the answer. Whatever in acidic conditions will be oxidized by it. The good use for it is making chlorine or bromine ;)
My bad ;')
dumping it in water tuns manganese heptoxide, the anhydride of permanganic acid, back into permanganic acid, which quickly degrades back to water, oxygen, and an unreactive manganese ore. the only danger in it is bringing it into contact with anything it can oxidize
Please please please do a Bob Ross imitation.
Chopersky lord knows it would be the first time
As someone that really enjoys chemistry but was never really able to do that much fun stuff on my own or in classes, finding this channel has been absolutely amazing for me.
Second approach to paint on the pallet was great. Youd find a less saturated brush doesnt just smear. Not everyone is an artist so thank you for humbling yourself and making an effort.
Somebody: **mentions Prussia in any way**
History nerds and Hetalia fans: «Allow us to introduce ourselves»
**cries in Gilbert shouting “I Am Awesome”**
:^
Oh fuck here comes the hetalia fan
Well hello
IM STILL ALIVE
amaaazing video. Although I'm a derp and always failing at my chemistry test, this video is really entertaining! And the way you draw is just adorable
Good video keep up the good work you are one of the best science channels on UA-cam!
sciencechemistry One of the bests?!?! He is the best. :)
what is the use for hydrobromic acid
Hi I’m a painter and this is my favorite blue by far- so interesting to watch this
Potassium ferrocyanide trihydrate can be made by the modified Heilden's method. I am not aware of the cost-effectiveness of the experimental process though. The percentage yield is stated to be 98%. Here's the link to the article I read from ScienceDirect: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0020165078800646 .
thanks algorithm, it's unexpectedly fascinating
UA-cam: Will you watch this?
Me, At 3 AM: *Yes*
rvtrroradio literally me rn it’s currently 3:07 💀
I cant believe you called me out like this.
r/meirl
Prussian blue is the best for uniforms
You can also use white paint and just sprinkle different amounts of the powder or your homemade oil paint and mix it in to get different shades of blue
DUDE>>>>>
You made that paint.
Not just mixing it but YOU MADE THE COLOUR from scratch like i would a cake.
It is beautiful:)
**cries in memories of Prussia screaming “I am awesome!”**
*ITS PREUßEN YOU UNKULTURIERTES SCHWEIN*
Bruh Momentum I HAVE DISAPPOINTED THE GREAT ONE! HAIL TO THE AWESOME PREUßEN
I DONT HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THAT LETTER. WILL MY AWESOMENESS MAKE UP FOR IT?
VoidAngelic :3 IF YOU CALL UPON THE GREAT PRUSSIA THEN YOUR SINS SHALL BE FORGIVEN!! HE IS AWESOME!!
god i just left the fandom-
One potentially interesting pathway for the potassium ferrocyanide, though I don't know if you can get much of a yield, might be to synthesize it from the cyanogenic glycosides in the toxic parts of plants. Many plants produce compounds which are enzymatically catalyzed into hydrogen cyanide as a defense mechanism. Bitter almonds and apricot pits are probably one of the more available sources for this and seem to be available for bulk purchase online. By grinding those seeds and soaking their powder/pulp in water you should be able to make a cyanic acid solution.
From there you could synthesize it from an alkaline aqueous solution of ferrous salts in a single step. Given your goals and what's readily available I'd suggest potassium carbonate, which can be attained from brewing supply stores or directly from a chemical supplier, and ferrous sulfide which you'll probably just have to order. Hydrogen cyanide should react to form potassium ferrocyanide, hydrogen sulfide, and CO2.
Alternatively there's a more well tested and easier to purify method based on how they do it in commercial production. By reacting the cyanic acid with calcium hydroxide (slaked lime) you'll form pretty straight forward calcium cyanide solution. From there heat it with ferrous sulfate(Iron supplement) to produce calcium ferrocyanide. This is obviously a step that necessitates a good fume hood. By adding potassium chloride (low sodium salt) you'll produce a nearly insoluble double salt of potassium calcium ferrocyanide which will fall out of solution. Filter and clean it with water. From there you just need to react it with a potassium carbonate solution. Insoluble calcium carbonate will fall out of solution and you'll be left with a crude potassium ferrocyanide solution. The product can be crystallized out as the trihydrate and purified further from there.
commenting for me
I would love an art series of more different pigments! Would be lovely :)
Dude. Your molecule art is awesome.
Seriously. Do more of this art.
Prussian blue is also often used to check surface topology and relative flatness. A flat reference like a granite surface plate gets a very thin layer of blue applied and the part to be checked is placed on topped moved around slightly. This transfers some of the blue to only the high spots of the part, letting you see the topology!
For oil painting - Bob Ross. For acrylic painting - ColorByFelix.
#0 brush for detail and fine lines
#5 is good for general drawing and filling
Use thicker paints for your base and thin it out if you want to paint over that with another color or dilute with turpentine and white to lighten the shade a bit.
I know... The video is old but it's never too late to try something new :)
Bob would be proud
I think the drops looked like condoms.. xD However man, this is a very well done video!! Thanks.. i'm looking forward to the Cyano-printing process!! Keep up the good work..
Me too!
xD I'm not alone lol
lol thats what I thought.
Same
Micropacker?
I’m a paint maker and I’m so excited to try this! I’m going to make some watercolors.
Thank you for not blueballing us and actually showing a section of how it works as a paint
Happy to see an inorganic chemistry vid u usually make organic chemistry videos
sooo youtube is stalking me.
school just started.
i’m in chemistry.
this came up on my recommended.
I just did my chemistry paper today.... watching this video made me remember the hell i went through calculating moles and theoretical yields
I actually think all of your paintings are very charming. I’m extremely fond of the chemical structures one!
prussian blue is one of my favourite colors, this is so cool! thank you for the video!
He sure does like saying “in theory” 😂
In theory, he does.
11:30 "way too detailed and hard for me" .... says the guy who makes Prussian Blue from scratch and freestyles chemical compounds in his sleep lol
Now that you've got your *dry* stock of ferric chloride, all you can do with it is look at it and never ever open the container again.
I had some dry stuff, opened it for just a minute to get some and closed it , the next day half of it was liquid.
What you need is a glass muller. I had one made by a glass blower. Turns that chunky pigment into butter quick. Thanks for the video, learned a lot since I also make my own pigments (Flake White, lead-tin yellow).
I love that you're patient and skill full enough to make pigment but drawing a butterfly is where we draw the line
11:21 Goes from four year old drawing to experienced sketch. XD
Great work, keep it up, proud of you
Andrew van der Hoop DUDE I WAS JUST FUCKING THINKING OF POSTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, H3H3 reference right?!
Prussian Blue is one of my favorite colors. Can't wait to try and make my own.
You should do an entire series with all the colors this is amazing