Sony vs Nikon: This Changes Everything
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- What is the better camera system Nikon or Sony? Who has the better color science and image quality? Autofocus, lenses. Nikon ZF vs Sony A7S III until the Z6 III gets here. Comparing lenses, Zeiss Batis 18mm f2.8 vs Nikkor 17-28mm f2.8. Zeiss Batis 25mm f2 vs Nikkor 28mm f2.8 SE. Voigtlander 35mm f1.2 vs Nikkor 40mm f2. Zeiss 55mm f1.8 vs Voigtlander 58mm f1.4. Sony 90mm f2.8 macro vs Nikkor Z 85mm f1.2 S lens. The battle is nigh!
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Just some show notes. Voigtlander 58mm f1.4 had 2 fingerprints on front element, that's why it looked like a black pro mist lol. Sony autofocus was set to max speed and responsiveness for some reason, and went haywire on the Zeiss 55mm f1.8 outside. Nikon official LUT sucks for n-log, makes red orange.
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Just some show notes. Voigtlander 58mm f1.4 had 2 fingerprints on front element, that's why it looked like a black pro mist lol. Sony autofocus was set to max speed and responsiveness for some reason, and went haywire on the Zeiss 55mm f1.8 outside. Nikon official LUT sucks for n-log, makes red orange.
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Ok, guys, Nikon color science = "I came from sauna" , Sony color science= "Call to hospital , I have a jaundice"... What to do?... What to do?...
His face is red, look at his skin elsewhere It's proper skin tones.
Panasonic.
Ask p Diddy, he knows best
@@DarkTrapStudiowhat's proper?
He should just stop using log because he sucks at it like me
Nikon DR on that lamp in the back is remarkable
For the best colors in Nikon you need to play with the "Flat" profile. A bit less contrast, a lot less sharpening, a bit more saturation. And you can adapt sony Zeiss lenses on Nikon. PERFECT!!
And then you buy a Sony and won`t have to do all those things and can use Zeiss glass as a bonus.
@@brugj03 with Nikon you can use Zeiss glass too. With Sony you need to play with menus to achieve the best image too
agreed flat is king
That adapter seems sketchy ñ a sagger lover p Diddy/ Snoop Dogg after party
@@unbroken1010 are you alright
Nikon color science is like: " I forgot the sunscreen protection " or " im shy don't point the camera at me"
Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe it was the sunburn LUT 😉
I have consistently said that I don't know why people moan about Sony colour science. It's nowhere near as bad as people claim. The Sony colour looks better here than the Nikon Zf.
In a blind test people picked Sony over all the other brands. It’s hilarious.
@15:43 Nikon renders sky in nice blue tone, Sony looks weird .
@@James_118 No colour system is perfect, but overall Sony is better than Nikon, especially the skin tones, in Standard colour.
Nikon looks too warm, but with the Sony there is a green shade on the face.
@@jftron isolated there is no issue
The Nikon gives reddish skin tones, face looks a little sunburnt and the shirt looks orange. Sony looks natural and the colors look accurate. I don’t own gear by either manufacturer so I have no bias. If I were in the market, it would be an easy decision going with the Sony.
Love your videos. Always very informative and entertaining. Great job!
I love my Sony TV >> but Nothing compares with camera of the Year Nikon Z8
The reason this is the case is because he is a more warm/magenta environment so it appears Sony does well there while Nikon appears to do better with skin tones outside
So who do you sack top for ? P Diddy or Drake?
@@unbroken1010 All I know is that I don’t end a sentence in a preposition.😎
As a former Nikon and current Sony user I find Sony to be more colour accurate. Nikon is wonderful, but saturation and contrast are raised quite a bit. I hope colour temperature was set identically here.
I found they all need to be corrected 😅
@@ducnguyen1999 relax P Diddy
Even as a Canon shooter myself, I have always preferred your Sony A7SIII over every other camera that you have ever used.
Sony has better colors in skin tones but I preferred the blue and green tones of Nikon. Though I would go for Sony as skin tones are harder to grade in general than to just slightly adjust green and blue tones of the surroundings to your liking. And checking the previous videos the Sony IBIS is good and Nikon seems to be useless wobble. I would say neither has as good stabe as Panasonic (Sony is almost as good it seems).
LoL'd @ 1:50 impromptu Panny S9 commercial 🤣
I can’t get over how much better the Sony looks. The Nikon colors just look super bad. It’s waaaaaaaaaay too red. The Sony on the other hand looks fanfuckingtastic
I couldn't stop looking at the shadow on your right temple.
Virgin gamer?
I'm a Nikon Zf guy, but damn, Nikon just got it's butt kicked!
nothing beats Sony A7s3 for video, in that price range.
I think 🤔 you see a different video…
It got it kicked and licked by p Diddy and Drake
@@unbroken1010 You add nothing to the discussion. Go away.
lol no it didn’t, the Sony looked like crap, get your eyes checked
Sony is the best camera to adapt lenses. Especially vintage. I have 100 of them and like a dozen cheap adapters from China.
Sony loves jaundice yellow and hates sky blue. Nikon sure loves green.
Nikon's skin tones are quite consistently wrong in terms of being too red, as evident throughout the video.
But for landscapes, yes may be Nikon tends to oversaturate greens, at the collateral damage of making green too uniform, i.e. too little room left over for variation between various subtle green hues.
I think the Sony looked better inside and outside.
On inside I feel the Nikon added too much red, outside its got too little red and shadows seems to be worse on the nikon (looks washed out).
Zeiss batis line up is 🔥🔥🔥
Lens that blows me away for landscape is the Sony Zeiss 16-35mm f4 OS. Paid nearly nothing for a ugly version of this lens and am blown away. Even has some 3D pop.
It was easy to spot the difference. The Nikon always has redder skintones. You can also see the effects of the T* coatings on the Zeiss lenses because they have better microcontrast and more pronounced highlights.
I agree on colors but find Nikon more in focus with more 3D pop @1:22 side by side
@@chiftele08You do know that the Nikon has a Sony sensor?
@@Sebastian-lw1eiAre you using a calibrated screen?
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@@Sebastian-lw1ei Last one ? :O
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Watching close to a 4K monitor, Nikon is much sharper and the dynamic range looks at least a stop better. Managing that while using the best Sony video body vs a random Nikon one, and a Zeiss prime vs a zoom, the Nikon is doing way better than it has any right for
The nikon 28mm f/2 ai-s lens is pretty fun. It's definitely not as popular as the f/2.8 . It has slightly more CA, the bokeh is slightly busier, But the 3D pop on that thing is pretty nice. Its a pretty unique lens & It's easy to shoot with too. They also made a 24mm f/2 ai-s i haven't used yet. However, I suspect they will look similar.
That Nikon “I’m embarrassed” filter. 😂
The problem for photographers is that todays lenses are linked to the Cameras CPU like they never were before. Optical performance must have both pieces of the puzzle. Its not so much now whether a lens mount is compatible, but I would not be buying 3rd party lenses anymore. There is no way that Nikon, Sony or Canon would allow them to be as good as their native lenses. In effect, cameras and lenses are becoming more proprietary than ever before and its easy for camera manufacturers to do this in software.
Then there is the interesting test that was done in the UK where one of their portrait photographers discovered something about Nikons latest NEF raw files. When opened in Lightroom with no edits at all, the image was inferior to the same file opened directly in Capture One. The NEF file had more code in its metadata in C1. When queried about it, someone in C1 admitted that they license the full NEF file algotithm from Nikon, but Adobe does not. Interesting. So a new workflow emerges if you are a LR user. Open the NEF in Nikon Studio v1.6.1, save it as a TIFF then open that in LR. There is a difference even to the naked eye.
As for video? Nikon didn't buy Red for the product, but to steer vloggers to a non hybrid platform.
Not sure what I like more; your frustration of the rendition, or the rendition of your frustration! Lol! 18:00 Toneh!
The A7SIII with the Batis 25mm looks so nice...i wanna immediately sell my kidney (s)...😀 The Zf sure looks like a great camera though.
As a noob who uses the D5600 I can truly say that Nikon tends to fall on the cooler side. Cannon, Sony, and others tend to fall on the warmer side. It all comes down to taste.
Please use Rich Tone Portrait Picture Control on Nikon ZF.
Angry photog is not always right. I have the Nikon 28mm 1.4E and it is beyond amazing. I pair it with my 50mm 1.2s and it is a great combo for anything ‘normal’ fov.
I knew the song right away. Slight greenish hue. Didn’t look bad but I wish a bit more natural.
I recognised the colours from bith cameras. i am sure i am not the only one.
If you a SOOC person, can you tune the skin tone in camera to be less red while retain the vividness of the rest of the image? If yes then how?
Yes. Just shoot in "Flat" profile, and play with the parameters. I like Flat with a bit less contrast, less sharpness, and a bit added saturation. Try playing with Flat profile, the colors are more accurate
@@chiftele08 I see thanks, but do you know how do different brand of camera able to have different skin tone while the other areas not much different, how do they tune the skin tone area without affect the whole or much of the image?
Move the white balance towards green and yellow. Problem solved but that also means every other colour will shift in that direction, alternatively, use Canon or Panasonic, they have perfect skin colour.
Will you be swapping your Zf to a Z6iii?
He already preordered it, its coming on Monday 😂
Man, I used to be a Nikon fan and thought my Nikon photos of Angkor Wat had plenty of pop. But now I see the 3d pop of Nikon was really.in black and white only and the Zeiss just dominated the Nikon.
Nikon colors look way worse here, especially in the last comparison. You looked like Dracula for a second there..
He looked like he came from a P Diddy/ Snoop Dogg After party
@@unbroken1010dude you can’t just reply the same stupid joke on every comment. Make a friend, get a hobby.
Just buy the Techart AF adapter for the Nikon and you will have video AF with the Voightlanders, with Megadap adapter you can have AF on the ZF with Sony E mount lenses...
Indeed, they make Nikon look bad when it comes to AF for no reason, learn learn learn to use your gear, then talk about things after you learn to use them well and correctly... but maybe he didn't know, but now he knows lol
@@felm.974
You need to learn English grammar.
But regardless, Sony autofocus is class leading for a reason, it just works.
Having to baby the autofocus on the Nikon makes it worse, period.
Even Panasonic performs better in this regard with its PDAF.
Never heard of e Mount to Nikon .since when? The review I just read said it's ok. It has issues on certain cameras and no ibis
@@SMGJohnwe need to just close the border. This experiment is over
@@SMGJohn You are the one who needs to learn English grammar, you Sony fan boy los3r. Nobody cares about your perfect AF or that of Panasonic, this video is about Nikon, not Sony.
I view every single video since like 3 years ago, and I have to say that Sony with zeiss looks great. Though for wildlife with the 200-600 I really dont like it, I much prefered Gh6 with leica.
Me personally I use Lumix S1 (Waiting for mk2) and S pro lenses, there you have sooo much pop and contrast, I really love the Image
Sony definitely wins in this one overall color wise for all the reasons people mentioned already.
Where are my badges?😊I want the alien head come on.😊
Nikon looks better
not really, just a bit more contrasty profile. He never told us what settings he used on either cam. If he was shooting log in sony, then no wonder Nikon looks better, since he cannot grade sony log properly =)
@sunlit777 I did mention exactly what I was shooting in, pay attention.
14:30 while I agree somewhat, the difference is so small that I think it doesn't matter. More about if the system suits the buyers workflow etc
Agreed. Indoors the Sony colors were obvious each time. The red in his shirt is too pink, yellowish skin. Outdoors it's not even fair. Sony looks washed out, low contrast, low dynamic range, reds and greens are massively worse, sky looks like crap, etc., even without all the focusing issues.
@@cwills75 yeah, spot on! that is exactly why all videographers opt for Sony and exactly ZERO for Nikon! 😉
in case you one day get a panasonic, try the "nicest 709", that is a look you will love.
BTW, the standard is much better in the sony than the nikon, that redness... But then again, the shirt in Sony was not the right color.
It was in the G9 II and it sucked.
I got myself a mint condition planar 50mm f1.4 and I don't want to take it off my camera :)
Nikon has the better sunburn science
Sky looks better on Nikon whereas Sony has slightly warmer tone.
Huge fan of the nikon sunburnt look. Blownout highlights are a nice touch as well.
The great debate, jaundice, or cooked lobster 🤔???
You should have kept the canon 😂
Standard profile is not the best for Nikon...I think new Rich Tone Portrait is the best, if you don't want to use Raw or Log... :)
It gives much better colors. :)
Almost identical...
Mic so good... Too good.
Nikkor G 24mm f/1.4 is a great lens. So is the 58. And the 85. Also the older AIS 85mm is fantastic
On my lab standard Vizio trash-pick tv I'm using as a monitor, the sony has a pink hue over everything, and makes the red shirt look surreal and oversaturated, while the Nikon gets the colors much more believable. Return that expensive Nikon lens, it costs too much for what it does, unless you need to shoot wide open all the time. The earth is actually sort of dish shaped, the dome is flat, the earth has to be bent some to keep the water in.
Sony was better in almost every shot, but it was doing something weird with the tshirt colour, Nikon makes it look more natural...
It would be fun to see some episodes without blurry backgrounds. Sony colours seem to be way better
unfortunately, both are inconvenient for travelers. All mirrorless camera nowadays are good enough for content creators even phones. I found myself using my phone most of the time when travel vlogging and only carry and use my cameras when producing high res photos only after scouting the place.
Sorry trolls.... Sony by a comfortable margin based on the vision provided - Ex G9 Panny user here
Not sure if I am correct; Nikon boosts the "brightness" of red (not "saturation"). You can compare the face as well as the tee-shirt.
luminance
@@flightographist oh yes. This is the proper word.
0:18 "this is not working" lol 💪😅💜
i can ALWAYS pick out the sony easily.. just go with the one that looks greener and its 100% the sony in 100% of the times.
*yeah color grading is always going to be different for everyone, it's always going to boil down too what you want to spend on a lens, is there alternatives to what you're looking for but I switch from Panasonic Specifically because their Auto focus Sucked and I didn't even know what color grading or LUTS where when starting*
The Nikon red face made it quite obvious the right side was still Nikon. 3:55
At 4:32 N-Log looks better than before because it reduced the amount of reddish face.
S-Log seems to have added a bit of yellow to your skin tones.
Not sure if it’s a color grade or if Nikons color science has regressed
Your face looks more red on the Nikon. Not sure why.
Dunno which is which yet, I like the look of the left initially
"It's got some rendering, that could please a woman, in a village, somewhere."
This is what I come here for man 😄
Canon c100 is waiting to put on your canon lenses.
Only watched the first two minutes but thank god the Sony with zeiss had the better pop or I’d have to sell my… Sony with zeiss.
I prefer nikon usually but if you are really expecting for the z6iii to be a game changer or something that will blow your mind you are probably gonna be disappointed. It will be a ZF in a modern body with no flippy screen and a handfull of better photo specs :D . If you are not sold by now to the nikon system I doubt the z6iii will change your mind. Z6iii will be my first full frame camera most likely ;)
Z6 III has a flippy screen.
Log color looks way off. Maybe try applying the official Rec 709 LUT from both companies for comparison?
I did...
@@cameraconspiracies You didn't correct it, just used it out of the box? Either way, the shirt looks weird on Nikon
Idk about Sony but canon and Nikon standard profiles are both “generic over edits” as a photog bum and not a video guy I do love my Nikon raw files. Every brand has something you have to balance out. Ps the Nikon 58 1.4g is my go to. Try that one
It seems like you really do need to change profile based on what you're shooting with Nikon, just like with Fujifilm. Whatever the Astia Portrait colours are called on Nikon, you should have that one before you point it at your face.
Also put on a blue t-shirt it will help with the perceptual colour cast a bit.
Nikon looks with more dynamic range. See the lamp behind you.
Zeiss 3d pop is immediately killing the Nikon.
Oh. I thought for sure the Sony was on the right, but I liked the colors better. I was going to doubt by choice in camera brands if Sony ended up with the more appealing colors. Glad I was wrong, lol.
The only way all your testing contests will work is if you invite all of us to your apartment to view the results on your camera screens and on your monitors. Yes, it is a sad truth about the Internet, UA-cam, and individual displays. 🤣 But don't stop doing them- the entertainment value is priceless❗❗
1:22 You got me with this one, I thought the opposite 😂 So Nikon gives you a red face but less red shirt while Sony/Zeiss more pleasing face skin tone and actual red shirt 😂 Though Nikon has much better focus and dare I say 3D pop 😮
Great video as always, I'm probably completely wrong and know nothing 😂😂😂 21:15 but I think the Sony was by far the best today 👍
Nice comparison. For the standard profiles Sony looked better IMO. You butchered the colors in log profiles though :D
That's just the standard Nikon LUT, I didn't do anything to the colours.
@@cameraconspiracies sorry, should have been more clear. I meant the Sony colors for log. It looks a bit washed out and few weird hue shifts. Keep these tests coming!
Nikon is like "Ok, we are doing video now. Just give us about 20 more years to make it worth it."
Again you made us question!
My OLED monitor is pretty much colour corrected and your Nikon footage is not looking great colourwise its way too much magenta, Sony not so great either with its weird yellow hue thing going on.
Ive shot Sony 4years professionally (a7s3) and now to a Z8…Nikon wipes the floor with Sony when it comes to colour… and yes, i could get the Sonys to look good but always had to work against the base colour science in slog and Nikon starts so much better…and in Photography its even more so…
Funny the SONY is so much more money and the Nikon is killing it. Nikon looks ultra natural. I’m going to assume that RED and NIKON already had a relationship prior to the announcement.
The Sony does 4k 120p vs aps-c cropped 4k 60p. Of course it's more money. And most people think the Sony looks better, like I said in the video it's always split down the middle and subjective.
Dude you are high. He looks sunburned he’s so red on the Nikon. Skin tones are the most important thing for color science for a vlogger. Is your screen set to a wonky color profile?
18:45 why the 85 1.2 is more like a 105-120mm in this comparison :)?
The difference is probably the video crop.
Angry Photographer was just plain wrong about the AF-S 28/1.4E. I don’t know if he had a bad copy, or if it was at the time he was changing his focus to fringe science (not that there’s anything wrong with that). But don’t discount it because of his (non)recommendation.
Still like the look of nikon better but can confirm that 85mm 1.2 is hot garbage. On the very rare occasion the autofocus hits, its a great image. Not worth it for the trouble of always losing focus though
I'm a Nikon fan boy with a Z6ii and a Zfc
I must admit that on the Nikon videos at the start you look sunburned.
I have not seen that in my videos, but then again I don''t take many videos.
Sony looks like it has commercial/cinema postprocessing to it. Looks cool but Nikon is more natural and sharper, and just more chill to look at. Red is too much but if it can be handled, Nikon wins easily.
I like the sony better. The nikon makes your face red
hey have you tried megadap ETZ21 Pro autofocus adapter and sony glass on nikon? I just ordered the Z8 and the adapter, hopefully it will give me time to get nikon glass
I have it, but it doesn't work lol. I don't have the proprietary usb clip to update the firmware.
@@cameraconspiracies That's not the Pro man....On the Pro the firmware is updated through the camera. No need to USB.
Work like a charm, at least for photo. I used it with the 200-600M Sony, great result.
Also how is Nikons video autofocus STILL that bad.
The AF on Nikkor 85mm F1.2 is dead 😂
The skin tones on the Nikon seem a bit too red but it clearly is not blowing the highlights of the lamp in the background like the Sony. Standard profile for Nikon is not the best one for a natural look. Choose wisely...🤔
opened the nikon 85/1.2 to max aperture and immediately got transported to a plantation wedding smh my head
If you went to a Dermatologist with the Rosacea on your face shown by the Nikon colors, you would leave with a prescription to try and treat the problem.
Harness the power of Active D-Lighting
Also you should try the adapters for 3D pop M glass and E mount stuff on Nikon
Wonder how the 58mm f/1.4 would be on the zf w/ adapter
I showed it in this video...
The Nikon 58mm f/1.4G
The nikon makes your skin way too red/pinkish. Sony takes the win easily! Better highlight rolloff
These videos really make me feel like Nikon hit themselves with the cripple hammer cause the my Z8 has never looked as wacky as your Zf.
I’ll watch your videos and enjoy them, but I am really waiting for a return to Panasonic glory.
actually a much bigger fan of the sony image
Sky and Green colours in sony doesn't seem right though. I prefer nikon colour outside and inside it is closer
@@o.j.7643 just meant this video. I own neither a sony nor a nikon
Do you know how do different brand of camera able to have different skin tone while the other areas not much different, how do they tune the skin tone area without affect the whole or much of the image?
I don’t think they are fine tuning just the facial skin tones differently from the rest of the image in the video file, but most people are more sensitive to how faces look and thus are more sensitive to the color differences between cameras based on skin tones.