Nah he's just gonna buy lab 3 to replace lab 2 before it's done anything so he can talk about it, and then buy lab 4 before lab 3 has done anything, and eventually own all commercial space in Vancouver without any of it being used so he can continue to talk about it.
@@joemarais7683 Just transform the greater Vancouver commercial zone into a one massive chip fab+micocenter+LTT productions. So that way they can make content on producing the product, valladating the product, testing the product, bugfixing it, benchmarking, etc. To then turn around and sell it to you. So next time someone asks what team you're on. Red, Green, or Blue? You can say you're team Orange.
I remember my father telling me about something similar to this, that was around 30 years ago probably. They would trim parts on whatever circuits they were working on with lasers, it's came a long way for sure.
Look up some Bill Herd videos - Commodore / MOS technologies was doing much the same thing way back then using light to change the behaviour of gates to help them debug circuits.
yeah light ... it's energy to overcome the bandgap something that you usually do with voltages. Its like reversing a solar panel, by adding voltage to it, the solar panel will emit light, also if you shine light on an LED, it will produce small amounts energy (you can measure voltage across it but maybe not so much on current)
Can we all just stop and appreciate for a moment how Linus came from making short videos for his boss for just a few bucks - and here is in friggin Israel right inside an Intel facility as a trusted tech personality. I'm happy for you, Linus. This is peak Linus.
@@kanedaku Most people have 20 years pass by with barely anything exceptional happening in their life. His success was not an inevitable product of time. It was because of his hard work and dedication. So many UA-camrs come and go, but LTT will always be part of the meta.
@@ralphM1114 It's just a validation lab, not a design one( not that I expect any silicon designer to allow an outsider into one ). The design ones are probably as secretive as "Area 51". Still a validation lab is awesome nonetheless.
Having worked in manufacturing, I can attest to how cool it is to go BTS and observe the process. The marketing filter hides too much. The people who actually make the parts should have their shine and respect. This is super awesome!
@@Gatorade69 To you. But if you show something like this video (even if you make it shiny and funny and whatnot) to a layman, they will go, "ha ha eggheads doing egghead things. NEEEEERD!!!". Either this, or they will be bored. You have to reach out to the consumer who has money to spend to buy the new fantastic amazing hardware / software thingamajigg without going technical. This is why Apple excels at sales. Heck, even Intel in the 90s - "intel inside" - went full marketing / PR speech, You want to move units, and the tech enthusiast crowd simply is not enough to sustain mass sales. Same with every field - e.g. automobiles. Edit: as an aside, sure, as other commenters said, proper education in schools etc. could make people have more of an affinity for enjoying this kind of stuff. But when most of the people in schools are in the "whateeeevs maaaan, I just want to get to college and get stoned and drunk all day" mood or whatnot, enthusiasm for this kind of stuff will be something really hard to captivate and instill in still-forming minds. This is why the STEM fields have almost always less people going in than other fields of education.
This is where I would have brought that really old Intel GPU to either get Intel guys to see if they can get it running, or sign it as a piece of computer history
yeah i was thinking about that Larabee card i've hoped someone back then would have found the drivers for it, even seeing someone claiming to have one in the comments
@@neondemon5137 Israel proclaimed their independence in 1948, Intel begun operations in Israel in 1974, project larrabee as a GPU was cancelled in late 2009.
"Mind if I borrow that LADA for a minute?" "Uhh... why?" "No reason..." [fires lasers at my SLI array of sixteen 3DFX Voodoo cards until the performance surpasses the 3090ti]
I want to see the engineers talking more! I feel like hearing interviews with the actual engineers or just hearing them talking about their work would be really awesome
That's not gonna happen. See my comment about what happened when I worked at Lucent Technologies. The engineers are not allowed to discuss MOST of what they do. Answering 1 question, or even letting a single secret be seen by an outsider can be the difference in the company succeeding or going bankrupt.
That will never happen. There's too much risk that they will say something that even _hints_ at something confidential, which their competitors can put together with other information they already have, to gain a competitive edge.
@@deusexaethera you can get rid of that risk by letting intel approve or disapprove of the content before they release it, which i assume they already have an agreement like that
The hangover joke getting everyone to laugh was pretty good. But that LADA unit... wow, that's some wild stuff. Then following up with the IREM device. I'd love to see a AMD version of this tour next now!
If it wasn't Linus who showed it (or anyone who was for sure someone from intel/amd CPU labs) I would probably never would have believed something like the LADA could exists. Changing forged silicon behavior ? Nuts
@@kdocss i don’t even understand how they can fuse the silicone to behave differently??? and now they’re saying we can shoot lasers into them to change it more ?? i don’t know what to believe anymore lmao
There is no way AMD has something like this And I'm wondering how going to smaller nodes make the lada unusable because it's going to need lower and lower wavelength lasers
Love this. No doubt senior leadership shuffles allowed this to happen, hopefully we'll continue to see the fruit of this more open mindset in the future
Chiral What senior leadership shuffles, why you cry that, who did you meant? Can we get a Nvidia specs onboard intel CPU's? or we let Linus play with it?
@@lucasrem Pat Gelsinger became Intel's CEO in February of last year. Notably, Gelsinger's background comes from being an engineer himself in the 80's and 90's. The shift to his being CEO is believed to signal a renewed interest within Intel on their engineering, especially with as far as AMD has caught up lately. Projects like this where Intel forgoes their absolute secrecy for extremely positive PR is a sign of this change in leadership mentality. The idea being that a few years ago you would have had to convince an executive who's only interest is in shareholder returns and profit to go for a collaboration like this whereas today, thanks to the appreciation for the work done in Intel's labs, it's no question that you'd want to show off and be proud of the hard work that your world-class teams are doing.
As a current intel employee from a different department, I really learnt a whole bunch of CPU knowledge from you and finally understand what some parts I came across everyday does. Thanks for making these videos!!!! Looking forward for more!!
Even before you mentioned it in the next section, at 14:18 you can clearly see the pride and joy in the engineers' eyes. These brilliant people (and many others) have been working at the cutting edge for years and furthering the compute capabilities of humanity. Amazing to see them get the recognition they deserve.
You've hit the head on the proverbial nail with the issue. There is a big PR issue with the semiconductor industry in that if you ask people 9 times out of 10 they'll be like I have no idea what that is. That disconnect needs to be solved and these videos are one way of doing so. At my universities, Rochester Institute of Technology, yearly microelectronics conference (the senior undergraduates present their final projects and industry sends speakers as well) we discussed this as well with one of Intel's VP's and he agreed that there needs to be more effort from industry to bridge the gap between education and industry. For example, why aren't semiconductors discussed as part of AP/High School level physics and chemistry? I don't know if anyone from LTT will see this but I'd love it if they'd come and tour our clean room facility and do a video on it, maybe even go through our short course where in the course of a week we design and fab transistors.
I'm watching these videos after spending my childhood with video games and I have to admit, I had no idea the technology behind it (still don't...) It feels somewhat unreal to see how they make CPUs and other parts of a PC, like something from the future and the fact that humans can manufacture with a precision like that within a small error margin (for many decades now) is something incredible to me.
I totally agree with you! I’m glad that here in Germany I got told in 9th grade in physics about semiconductors and how transistors work. It’s really interesting! And I live near Dresden which is like the hotspot for semiconductor fabs of Europe so I may try and get into that industry :o
@@timbonator1 As someone in the industry I say go for it. It's fast paced and you get to be involved with things (machinery, metrology equipment, problem solving methodologies ect.) that most people never even know exist. It's a fascinating industry and it's only grown in demand since before I was born.
I totally agree. I think there are many areas in our world in general where most people have no idea what is behind things. Food is another example where there is so much upstream that is just invisible to the consumer.
Linus has his own Screwdriver in production which obviously creates a conflict of interest with iFixIt. He has been pushing his own screwdriver repeatedly on his channel. When iFixIt presumably lost LTT as a partner they obviously turned to Jay as the next best alternative, sorry Jay love you to man.
@@Mu7eD-Stream I'm not sure the LTT screwdriver is really a competitor to iFixit toolkits. The former is, well, just a really good screwdriver, while ifixit kits are a) used for finer screws and b) contain some very different tools as well, like picks, spudgers, suction cups and more.
Ian.. just what i was about to write. Loved these couple of vids.. And yes, Jay has the best commercials for iFixit. They should pay him in order to copy his advertisement. I would enjoy seeing all the techtubers use Jay'z clips for that specific sponsorship.
nvm, had to be a creep & google it lol getting to say "nah I dont work on tractors, I work in the space division at ***company***" is way cooler lmao but the AI & system design engineers at JD actually do get to work on a surprising amount of super cool stuff too, just in a vastly different lane
FPGAs are fascinating! Would love to see more in depth stuff on them but from an outsider view, ever since FPGA retro gaming I've been curious about them especially in more particular applications. Cool job!
I’ll be honest and say that I’m NOT a pic nerd in all honesty. But Linus’ enthusiasm in vids like these makes them really interesting and I sometimes feel like I actually understand him from time to time❤
@@buzz7313 Yeh, I'm not there yet. Their channel has mostly watermarked videos, but they could be ripped from an actual Intel source. However, low subs count and channel launched on an odd day fairly recently; along with no mention of the channel on the Intel website.... Its not bending either way. And I'm undecided about this Intel channel also. 🤣
@@kanedaku ok I didn't watch any of the videos so I don't know I just went into the main Intel UA-cam channel and went into the channels section and I saw it there yet again I could have misread it
The thing is, visitors like Linus, who can ask good questions, lead to solved problems, at least sometimes. And the fact that Linus knows nothing about this in detail also helps, that the engineers rethink there work from the "basics". And he brings in new points of views, he might bring them to a new relatively simple approach to some component, because engineers suffer from complex thinking regularly. It's basically a win-win-win situation. And you can't imagine how often problems are solved, do to a new team member, who askes good questions. Btw, I'm nearly a full fledged engineer in electronicall engineering myself, so I, at least, don't talk complete nonsense.
@@codelltaylor Thats the main reason I made this comment. I never thought too much about it, but it just blows me away that there's so many people/steps involved. working on the bleeding edge is crazy.
For real though, if you look into Computer Science for a while, you realize how freaking many systems, devices and layers a seemingly "trivial" thing like this very UA-cam comment I typed on my keyboard has to go through before it appears on your screen, it's just mind-boggling... the bytes of this comment go through SO many chips around the globe and everything happens faster than I can type a single word
That hot-plugging PCIe ("I've never been so FRUSTRATED") video is one of my big favorites, so it's nice to see somebody like Intel following through on that tech!
They definitely should be enthusiastic about what they do. Think of everyone who relies on them, UA-cam, LMG, Google. The whole tech world relies on either Intel or AMD (for the most part), and half the time Intel and AMD learn from each others successes or failures. Too many take these peoples work for granted.
Kieran Brown nobody cares, Big Tech is evil! Elon needs to clean Twitter, rest we never need! too evil! Intel is real, AMD is gone, TSMC scum in Taiwan?
The research, passion and quality that have gone into these fab lab videos are incredible. Major props to LMG for inspiring the next gen of enthusiasts and future engineers.
Thanks Linus! I switched from pre-si to post-si debug around the start of the pandemic. It's good to finally be able to see the inside of one of the labs I've been working "in" :)
One of the coolest LTT series of videos ever, Linus' excitement was palpable and I cant wait for LTT Labs for him to have a mini version of tech heaven to play in. I would be willing to be those CPU cooler blocks make an appearance in the future now that Linus sees how the pros mitigate condesation build up for example.
This is seriously one of the most interesting series' I've seen! It must have been such an incredible opportunity for Linus to tour the facilty and share it with us along the way!
Imagine Linus incorporates some of the acquired knowledge into his IT Labs? I am so hoping it takes off, totally looking forward to it. Great video, Linus & Team!
Has this trip altered any of LTT's plans for the labs or was Linus able to discuss any lab plans with intel and their engineers for logistics / research / other questions? Love this content and looking forward to more of it!
i wanted to go to college to eventually end up in one of these labs. Nothing interests me more than how cpu's work and what makes them tick. ive always looked at it like alien technology. i get goosebumps from thinking that us humans can achieve something like this. sadly, as a DACA recipient, i am not eligible for any government aid such as fafsa and could not even come CLOSE to affording school as i go. here i sit today as a Diesel mechanic/owner operator of a semi truck. **wipes tear** it was beautiful to at least get to see this with my own eyes. thank you for that.
If there's a will there's a way, as a DACA recipient myself I am currently in pursuit of an Electrical Engineering degree. I don't know what part of the US you're in but there's a lot of help out there. Simply speaking to a community college counselor can help plan out your college carrier. There are also programs inside the college (such as EOPS) that help less fortunate individuals with financial assistance. I have a friend (also DACA recipient) who just graduated with a masters in Chemistry. It's harder for us but not impossible, it's a test on how badly you want it.
Here's the crazy thing. I work in the chip business (I actually design chips) and I understand how most of this works, at least at a high level. And I STILL think it's magic, bordering on alien tech. By the way, there's lots of other parts to the chip business other than Intel. And you don't always have to have a fancy degree. For example, Jim Williams: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Williams_(analog_designer) . I don't believe he had a degree. But he loved electronics and had a mind for it. So he worked himself up to being one of the best known representatives for a large chip company.
You can definitely still apply. I work as a technician in the Intel labs with no degree or previous experience. I just showed a lot of interest in the field with a home server and stuff. Its so cool to be able to work with future equipment.
I'm sorry to hear that. I am an always have been into automechanic (gasoline), and lately I have been looking into possibly doing something like computer art/animation, computer science, computer pentesting, ect. Sadly, I am 33 yrs old qn although everyone says it's not to late to learn qt what age...... well, it's so hard at my age to pick things up super easy. Plus, I'm good with automotive and I feel if I went into something software computer wise, I'm not sure I could afford to take a pay cut an do this an that in life that I should have done so so long ago in life. I do wish that anyone that is young and possibly still in school, if you were to read this please follow your dreams and chase what you truly would like to do in life. Do not let nothing what so ever stop you from doing it. You may possibly look back when your older like this GENTLEMAN & MYSELF wishing we would have done something different in life.
Intel is hiring manufacturing staff as fast as they possibly can. Anywhere they have a fab in the US you can likely get a job. So places like Chandler, Arizona and Hillsboro, Oregon. The requirements are pretty low right now. It's a great time to get your foot in the door.
The sponsor segment actually answered a question about my iFixit kit that's been driving me nuts. I didn't know that little metal spike was for SIM ejection Thank you!
To me, the egg came first, in the sense that a creature that bore eggs had to come first, so that a Chicken could evolve from that creature, to what we have today. So, Chicken's always laid eggs, but they didn't snap into existence.
I prefer to put it like this: The first egg from which what we would call a chicken hatched from was laid by something which was not quite what we would call a chicken.
If Linus knew ANYTHING about tech, he would know that that Thermal “Doodad” is actually not a thermal doodad at all. That is a thermal DOOHICKEY which is extremely different from a doodad.😤
Watching these past episodes about the Intel visit has reminded me of the huge firey passion I have for tech and why I love it. It's more then the product, it's about the tools to takes to make said product. 🤙🏻🤙🏻💯💯💯 And why I learned about computers for the last 13 years.
You know, I've been watching your videos for years and years, but this series is honestly one of the coolest things you've done. The fact that you got this kind of access is amazing, and your enthusiasm is infectious. That LADA machine is so far beyond what I would have expected that I honestly don't think I even understand it.
This is some of the best LTT content so far! Absolutely love it. Linus is having such a great time, and I get to vicariously have a great time with him! What an experience that must be.
What really made me realize how mind boggling the semiconductor manufacturing is, was when I watching Asianometry's videos on it. EUV especially sounds like something a futuristic wizard would come up with to cast a spell. Hopefully Linus will be able to tour TSMC or ASML next.
Hats off to the editors for not only getting all of these videos out so quickly but doing a good job and keeping it interesting. They also don’t leak any “confidential” data. There is so much footage to go through; if anyone knows how many editors are working for Linus, please let me know down below.
This is legit awesome. And honestly, this is my experience interacting with literally every engineer that works here in Portland, OR. They're all hyped af for whatever they're working on.
I just got a massive shift in understanding of the process of debugging chips and dialing in the silicon for market. what an awesome video linus. thank you so much.. honestly I am so grateful for this. ❤😊
I think this really shows the difference in being a PC tech or hobbyist vs Hardware Engineer. The engineering behind our PCs is complicated , expensive and challenging so never take your PC components for granted as it literally takes million of dollars to develop them! 🙂👌
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises true! Many pc techs and hobbyists say you dont need anti static equipment! However at my work we ALWAYS use anti-static equipment, surfaces, clothing and bags. Try telling your boss you burnt out a £50,000 sensor because you static shocked it 😂👌 again another major difference between hobbyists and engineers!
@@bigkaswrx8115 Weeeeell,me being now @ my night shift,and working @ place ,making electronic equipment,made me suspicious... Oh,i might ask about it my uncles (rip) son,he works/worked @Intel@Jesrusalem branch. The Labs should be Northern ones,in Haifa.
This video was almost as interesting as the smarter-every-day video on the Saturn V - which is the most fascinating thing (computer wise) that ive ever seen. So take this as high praise. more of this please intel.
Try CuriousMarc's series on repairing an apollo guidance computer. Lots of videos, but the lengths they go through and a load of explanation makes it so worth while.
Man this is amazing! Really glad Intel finally let a nerd in to talk to the inner nerds to talk to us other nerds. Really makes me appreciate the process and the technology required to get us a functional product so much more!
FYI, logistically and literally the egg came first. Logistics; the egg had to exist for the initial chicken to hatch from. Literal; chickens are a relatively recent evolution within the last few million years where eggs evolved hundreds of millions of years ago.
I work as an engineer on consumer hardware a lot of you guys probably own. Just creating the equipment to test things is a good portion of the work. Making sure all this stuff works can be more compex than the products.
The key point as to why they use compressed air to blow on the sockets when going sub ambient is likely because they are likely using membrane or desiccant dryers to pull most of the moisture out of the air they are blowing. As this significantly drops the dew point, and thus the likelihood condensation will form. Think of the air like a sponge, with warmer air having a greater capacity to hold moisture, if that air is cooled its figuratively like "squeezing the sponge". Ambient air temperature AND humidity level both play a part in dictating the dew point temperature for this reason.
The Laser Assisted Device Alteration is an amazing example of the power of physical access. If a person has physical access to a device, it is possible to hack/modify/alter it. That is both something that needs to be accounted for, for example, if you rent out hardware, or don't do physical security, but also counted on, as an ultimate guard against overreaching DRM. Very cool machine.
This is probably going to get lost because youtube comments suck but @ 6:42: The RAM slot might be for their Optane PMem DIMMs. Was there a battery on the card? In the even of power loss Optane DIMMs need power for a little bit longer to finalize whatever memory operation was still in flight so they generally use batteries for that. I suspect the big battery you found in the 6TB of RAM in one PC video was for the same thing. Even if there was no battery on it though I wouldn't count out that it is for some sort of optane testing. Their PCI-e cards use pretty much the same tech as the DIMMs just a different controller so if they'd want to validate a bunch of configurations making it so you can slot in a different DIMM instead of having to solder it to a PCB would make a lot of sense.
It's so cool seeing somebody like Linus get so excited over the things we do as Verification & Validation Engineers. Although I have not worked on the level of ST/NXP/Intel/AMD/Micron etc, I do a lot of testing with their chips in our devices. But it's similar across the tech industry, Ver/Val Test Engineering jobs don't get the 'sex' (hah lack of a better term) appeal that Architect/Designer/Developer jobs get even though (the good ones) they have to know the Hardware/Firmware/Software just as well as the designers to in order to create appropriate test beds. For every feature/functionality there is an iceberg of test scenarios that need to be created, not even mentioning the negative scenarios or designing it for automation & CI/CD. True, we don't have to design any functional part of the end product. But there is still immense pressure, especially in waterfall environments, to get through the tests because Ver/Val are near the end of the project "holding" up the release.
This may not be the place. But, ive been into tech my whole life. But it didn't go to the next level for me until i discovered Linus 4 years ago. Ive Build mutiple PC's and now working on a downstairs server, and even opening a LAN center etc. I have learned a lot and can't wait to watch each week. I look up to this guy.
The egg would have to come before the chicken because genetic differences are always created in offspring, therefore the first chicken would've been a genetic mutation within the egg. Precursors to the chicken would've still laid eggs, but weren't domestic chickens, but at some point one of them laid and egg that was a chicken.
> What came first, the chicken or the egg? You could say, the egg came first, because dinosaurs laid eggs a looooong time before chickens ever existed. If you clarify the question to specifically mean a chicken egg, not just any egg, then the answer becomes: "it depends on how precisely you do define `chicken` and `chicken egg`". Chickens evolved from their ancestors (let's call them proto-chickens) in a very slow and gradual process spanning a long period of time - so we have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, just to be able to separate chicken from proto-chicken. Keep in mind though, that this is an arbitrary choice! But no matter where you actually draw the line, there will be one parent animal that's not quite a chicken yet, having an offspring that is an actual chicken thanks to having one additional genetic mutation. The very first chicken of all time hatched from it's own egg, and thus the egg came first, or did it? Well, the mutation that created that first chicken occurred, when the male sperm fertilized the female egg cell causing the DNA to be rewritten, and resulting in a fertilized egg cell. That fertilized egg cell later gets encased in an egg which then gets laid. And finally the first chicken hatches from that egg. Depending on how you define "chicken" and "egg" - the fertilized egg cell itself might already qualify as being one or both. When does the chicken start being a chicken? Is the egg a chicken too? Is the egg cell an egg? At this point the answer becomes undecidable, right? If you clarify the question further to specifically mean a hatched chicken in addition to meaning a chicken egg (which probably is what Plutarch originally meant when first posing the question) - then you now have to answer the question whether an egg laid by a proto-chicken but containing the DNA of the first chicken counts as a chicken egg or not. You could argue that the egg is not an chicken egg, as it wasn't laid by a chicken. It's a non-chicken egg that contains a chicken inside - as the egg was still formed by non-chicken, thus the chicken came first, right? It's extremely likely though, that the egg the first chicken later laid (the calcium carbonate shell, egg white, yolk, etc.), is completely identical to the egg it itself hatched from. There's a lot more genetic material defining the animal, compared to the tiny bit that defines the egg. Thus it's statistically highly unlikely, that this one mutation that caused the switch from proto-chicken to proper chicken would actually change the egg in any way. Thus, the only reliable to way to define what is a chicken egg and what is not, is through the DNA inside. And that would make the egg the first chicken hatched from be the first chicken egg. Thus, it would seem that the egg came first after all. You might now try to define the genetic change that creates the very first chicken to be one that specifically affected the egg. Then the first chicken's eggs would be actually different from the egg the first chicken itself hatched from. But now you're just being a stickler for red tape! Remember what I told you to keep in mind? The choice of where to draw the line between proto-chicken and chicken is arbitrary, and was only done to allow for a clear differentiation between proto-chicken and chicken. But in reality, there is no clear single point where the switch occurred - and in sum there were many genetic changes, most if not all of which concerned the animal, not the egg. Specifically picking that rare (maybe even non-existent) egg-related mutation as that arbitrary line in the sand, AND defining chicken egg as "laid by a chicken - regardless of whether there's chicken DNA inside - that's a set of very artificially crafted assumptions to make. So no, that's not a very robust and believable line of argument. And since there is no other way to arrive at "the chicken came first" - the final answer is that the egg did indeed come first.
This actually brings up an interesting question, when can we expect USB4 to be more commonly used on PCs? I know it’s starting to show up on MacBook Pros, but that’s about it.
I guess whenever they make that amount of speed on USB actually useful. I hardly ever take advantage of USB 3 even now, and at most use USB 2 devices like external DVD drives and HIDs.
Hey Linus or anyone at LMG who *might* see this, the shorts you guys make that are sort of trailers for full videos do actually cause me to search for the full video. Good job
Some more info about FPGAs - most of them have a hard PCIe or memory block, meaning they are semi-customizable and you can't use old one with the new standard. What they did here, is built the entire PCIe core and connected it through available transceiver pins (ignoring the built-in PCIe block, if it even was there); which would occupy a significant amount of FPGA resources, making it useless for other heavy tasks. This is actually the "default" use case for FPGAs - a design verification. Limits exist here as well, but with more flexibility - you can't use an ancient FPGA to verify PCIe 5x, because it just wouldn't have enough transceiver speed. So, let's say, if you wanted an FPGA datacenter accelerator card, which would be forward compatible to PCIe 5x, you would have to build it with 2 FPGAs - one purely for PCIe communication purposes, another one for computing. That wouldn't make much sense, because it would be expensive and would probably lose to newer models in performance anyway. As for the DDR slot, well, comparable to the new interface speed the DDR RAM is not a high-speed device anymore; you'll need something like HBM memory, those don't go into slots.
@Linustec0 scammer preteding to be related with the channel Edit: the scammer has now changed the name of the account, but originally it contained the word "WhatsApp" and a number, as well as the name of the channel the video is on, and the hand emojis in the end were pointing there.
@@DeltaNrOne I did too. Looks like the scammer has now changed the username to something innocent-looking, assumably to let the dust fall before the next operation.
About the marketing bit - yeah, wholeheartedly agree. It's getting more and more important to know details about how the product is designed, manufactured and tested these day. And an insight into that is far more valuable to consumers than "suits" seem to think.
15:26 Im sure Intel is too. (Here's that envelope we asked you to deliver for us.... Thanks Linus) I've got to say this is actually interesting for promotional content, and Im not talking about the extra sponsor at the end.
One of the best serie of videos on the channel The facilities, testing methods & espacially the irem is absolutely fascinating Thanks a lot for Linus & Intel enginners
Here's the REAL answer to chicken/egg question by the great comedian Sean Lock (RiP). He said this when asked what came first, pigs or tapeworms. But it perfectly works for this too. "Well, the Big Bang actually. What happened was the Big Bang and all the tapeworms flew into the pigs" ~ Sean Lock
To be fair, FPGA is more common than you might think. You can get a low-end FPGA for well under $10. If you want to make a custom product, don't have millions of dollars, and only want to ship fewer than a few thousand units, an FPGA can be surprisingly capable and affordable. To design and ASIC, just to get one year of licenses for one of each type of software that you need would be most of a million dollars (depends very much on who you are, how many licenses, etc.). You need digital simulators, synthesis, timing analysis, lint and CDC, formal verification, place and route, and power analysis. These licenses can be expensive.
I am wondering: Did you have to make a raw cut on site and one of their graphic designers blurred the sensitive material there before you can take it home, or were you allowed to do that with your team?
If it is anything like Mark Rober's submarine series, they made a final cut then sent it to Intel who then viewed it and gave feedback on what needed censored
Based on how many things Linus breaks, are we sure he wasn’t hired by AMD to sabotage Intel?
fun fact AMD and Intel have an agreement in general
@@assrarjamalhawaa ok and? No one cares L+ratio+cope+get rekt
Constantly hits eqs on everything
@@assrarjamalhawaa love yourself and you won't need it.
at this point i dont even know if AMD needs to
Linus is about to buy Lab 3 and start making his own chips just so he never has to leave tech heaven
Nah he's just gonna buy lab 3 to replace lab 2 before it's done anything so he can talk about it, and then buy lab 4 before lab 3 has done anything, and eventually own all commercial space in Vancouver without any of it being used so he can continue to talk about it.
@@joemarais7683 Just transform the greater Vancouver commercial zone into a one massive chip fab+micocenter+LTT productions. So that way they can make content on producing the product, valladating the product, testing the product, bugfixing it, benchmarking, etc.
To then turn around and sell it to you. So next time someone asks what team you're on. Red, Green, or Blue? You can say you're team Orange.
Someone gonna sponsor a lab 3 so he can make a video building lab 3 with the sponsor's merch.
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@@mayshack is that a family guy reference I see? 😂
Wait... that laser debuging is literally magic
You can just change the properties of the chip after it's made! That's illegal!
@@fragalot But I STILL can't get a freaking shark with a laser beam on its head!
I remember my father telling me about something similar to this, that was around 30 years ago probably. They would trim parts on whatever circuits they were working on with lasers, it's came a long way for sure.
Look up some Bill Herd videos - Commodore / MOS technologies was doing much the same thing way back then using light to change the behaviour of gates to help them debug circuits.
yeah light ... it's energy to overcome the bandgap something that you usually do with voltages.
Its like reversing a solar panel, by adding voltage to it, the solar panel will emit light, also if you shine light on an LED, it will produce small amounts energy (you can measure voltage across it but maybe not so much on current)
Can we all just stop and appreciate for a moment how Linus came from making short videos for his boss for just a few bucks - and here is in friggin Israel right inside an Intel facility as a trusted tech personality.
I'm happy for you, Linus. This is peak Linus.
Well. Almost 20 years, so...
I was thinking the same thing
@@kanedaku Most people have 20 years pass by with barely anything exceptional happening in their life. His success was not an inevitable product of time. It was because of his hard work and dedication. So many UA-camrs come and go, but LTT will always be part of the meta.
@@ralphM1114 It's just a validation lab, not a design one( not that I expect any silicon designer to allow an outsider into one ). The design ones are probably as secretive as "Area 51". Still a validation lab is awesome nonetheless.
Compared to a selfie from the security checkpoint outside, to say maybe a staged area within a lobby.. a validation lab is a pretty big deal lol
Having worked in manufacturing, I can attest to how cool it is to go BTS and observe the process. The marketing filter hides too much. The people who actually make the parts should have their shine and respect. This is super awesome!
Screw marketing. I like stuff like this, in fact that works better to me as marketing.
@@Gatorade69 To you. But if you show something like this video (even if you make it shiny and funny and whatnot) to a layman, they will go, "ha ha eggheads doing egghead things. NEEEEERD!!!". Either this, or they will be bored. You have to reach out to the consumer who has money to spend to buy the new fantastic amazing hardware / software thingamajigg without going technical. This is why Apple excels at sales. Heck, even Intel in the 90s - "intel inside" - went full marketing / PR speech, You want to move units, and the tech enthusiast crowd simply is not enough to sustain mass sales. Same with every field - e.g. automobiles.
Edit: as an aside, sure, as other commenters said, proper education in schools etc. could make people have more of an affinity for enjoying this kind of stuff. But when most of the people in schools are in the "whateeeevs maaaan, I just want to get to college and get stoned and drunk all day" mood or whatnot, enthusiasm for this kind of stuff will be something really hard to captivate and instill in still-forming minds. This is why the STEM fields have almost always less people going in than other fields of education.
@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis you're right
here they do that at home, PCB, solderings!
what did you produce?
@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis apple, post script, HDR, logic pro
PC is more hacking and gaming orientated, noobs love PC's, all open for crap!
This is where I would have brought that really old Intel GPU to either get Intel guys to see if they can get it running, or sign it as a piece of computer history
yeah i was thinking about that Larabee card
i've hoped someone back then would have found the drivers for it, even seeing someone claiming to have one in the comments
Doesn't mean it was designed over there, might've been a different design lab.
@@neondemon5137 Israel proclaimed their independence in 1948, Intel begun operations in Israel in 1974, project larrabee as a GPU was cancelled in late 2009.
"Mind if I borrow that LADA for a minute?"
"Uhh... why?"
"No reason..."
[fires lasers at my SLI array of sixteen 3DFX Voodoo cards until the performance surpasses the 3090ti]
@@pirojfmifhghek566 [forces a 386 CPU to run Windows 11]
I'm an Intel engineer, but I was never as happy as Linus was when he was scanning his ID for entry XD
Do you allow to tell us how many core & thread will Available in Raptor lake generation?
@@Nicholas2144 : He's not allowed to tell you anything.
@@Nicholas2144 nda
@@Nicholas2144 hahahhahagahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahaha you have good jokes
@Clarissa 1986 there are options out there on the market for what you want since you say you just want “light gaming” capabilities.
I want to see the engineers talking more! I feel like hearing interviews with the actual engineers or just hearing them talking about their work would be really awesome
That's not gonna happen. See my comment about what happened when I worked at Lucent Technologies. The engineers are not allowed to discuss MOST of what they do. Answering 1 question, or even letting a single secret be seen by an outsider can be the difference in the company succeeding or going bankrupt.
The next day, he get fired…
Their individual jobs will be fairly normal e.g software devs, hardware devs, FPGA devs etc
That will never happen. There's too much risk that they will say something that even _hints_ at something confidential, which their competitors can put together with other information they already have, to gain a competitive edge.
@@deusexaethera you can get rid of that risk by letting intel approve or disapprove of the content before they release it, which i assume they already have an agreement like that
The hangover joke getting everyone to laugh was pretty good. But that LADA unit... wow, that's some wild stuff. Then following up with the IREM device. I'd love to see a AMD version of this tour next now!
If it wasn't Linus who showed it (or anyone who was for sure someone from intel/amd CPU labs) I would probably never would have believed something like the LADA could exists. Changing forged silicon behavior ? Nuts
@@kdocss i don’t even understand how they can fuse the silicone to behave differently??? and now they’re saying we can shoot lasers into them to change it more ?? i don’t know what to believe anymore lmao
i never thought to ever see a high tech LADA.
@@Perfinn You can melt stuff so values stay zero when they otherwise may become 1.
There is no way AMD has something like this
And I'm wondering how going to smaller nodes make the lada unusable because it's going to need lower and lower wavelength lasers
Love this. No doubt senior leadership shuffles allowed this to happen, hopefully we'll continue to see the fruit of this more open mindset in the future
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What senior leadership shuffles, why you cry that, who did you meant?
Can we get a Nvidia specs onboard intel CPU's?
or we let Linus play with it?
@@lucasrem Pat Gelsinger became Intel's CEO in February of last year. Notably, Gelsinger's background comes from being an engineer himself in the 80's and 90's. The shift to his being CEO is believed to signal a renewed interest within Intel on their engineering, especially with as far as AMD has caught up lately. Projects like this where Intel forgoes their absolute secrecy for extremely positive PR is a sign of this change in leadership mentality. The idea being that a few years ago you would have had to convince an executive who's only interest is in shareholder returns and profit to go for a collaboration like this whereas today, thanks to the appreciation for the work done in Intel's labs, it's no question that you'd want to show off and be proud of the hard work that your world-class teams are doing.
All I do is make the wafers and I'm not even allowed to have my cell phone out on the factory floor lol
@@jordansean18 Damn. They let us take pictures on our (work) phones in the fab and share them around internally. At least, in the US.
As a current intel employee from a different department, I really learnt a whole bunch of CPU knowledge from you and finally understand what some parts I came across everyday does. Thanks for making these videos!!!! Looking forward for more!!
Same here - I'm an Intel employee in the gfx software corner, I enjoyed watching this!
Too many "Intel confidential" tag, which hindered our own work a lot.
Even before you mentioned it in the next section, at 14:18 you can clearly see the pride and joy in the engineers' eyes. These brilliant people (and many others) have been working at the cutting edge for years and furthering the compute capabilities of humanity. Amazing to see them get the recognition they deserve.
You've hit the head on the proverbial nail with the issue. There is a big PR issue with the semiconductor industry in that if you ask people 9 times out of 10 they'll be like I have no idea what that is. That disconnect needs to be solved and these videos are one way of doing so. At my universities, Rochester Institute of Technology, yearly microelectronics conference (the senior undergraduates present their final projects and industry sends speakers as well) we discussed this as well with one of Intel's VP's and he agreed that there needs to be more effort from industry to bridge the gap between education and industry. For example, why aren't semiconductors discussed as part of AP/High School level physics and chemistry? I don't know if anyone from LTT will see this but I'd love it if they'd come and tour our clean room facility and do a video on it, maybe even go through our short course where in the course of a week we design and fab transistors.
I'm watching these videos after spending my childhood with video games and I have to admit, I had no idea the technology behind it (still don't...) It feels somewhat unreal to see how they make CPUs and other parts of a PC, like something from the future and the fact that humans can manufacture with a precision like that within a small error margin (for many decades now) is something incredible to me.
I studied chemistry at university and it wasn't until final year that we got all the way up to semiconductors, liquid crystals and OLED materials.
I totally agree with you! I’m glad that here in Germany I got told in 9th grade in physics about semiconductors and how transistors work. It’s really interesting! And I live near Dresden which is like the hotspot for semiconductor fabs of Europe so I may try and get into that industry :o
@@timbonator1 As someone in the industry I say go for it. It's fast paced and you get to be involved with things (machinery, metrology equipment, problem solving methodologies ect.) that most people never even know exist. It's a fascinating industry and it's only grown in demand since before I was born.
I totally agree. I think there are many areas in our world in general where most people have no idea what is behind things. Food is another example where there is so much upstream that is just invisible to the consumer.
Two things:
1. These fab tour videos are awesome.
2. I think Jay ruined Ifixit marketing...needs more explosions..
I do love Jay's I-FIX-IT *BOOM* commercials!
Linus has his own Screwdriver in production which obviously creates a conflict of interest with iFixIt. He has been pushing his own screwdriver repeatedly on his channel. When iFixIt presumably lost LTT as a partner they obviously turned to Jay as the next best alternative, sorry Jay love you to man.
all i got out of that was that ifixit very durable and i am going to die young
@@Mu7eD-Stream I'm not sure the LTT screwdriver is really a competitor to iFixit toolkits. The former is, well, just a really good screwdriver, while ifixit kits are a) used for finer screws and b) contain some very different tools as well, like picks, spudgers, suction cups and more.
Ian.. just what i was about to write. Loved these couple of vids..
And yes, Jay has the best commercials for iFixit. They should pay him in order to copy his advertisement.
I would enjoy seeing all the techtubers use Jay'z clips for that specific sponsorship.
It's very cool seeing all of this and kinda wild it took this long lol
Man, just seeing all those custom PCBs and wiring for this testing is so cool. What an awesome opportunity for us all, thanks Intel!
I am an FPGA Design Engineer, I always love hearing you talk about the stuff I do haha
at JD? if you work in one of the Iowa campuses I am super curious if you work with my super cool roommate from college!
@@von... nope, Northrop Grumman in Maryland
nvm, had to be a creep & google it lol
getting to say "nah I dont work on tractors, I work in the space division at ***company***" is way cooler lmao
but the AI & system design engineers at JD actually do get to work on a surprising amount of super cool stuff too, just in a vastly different lane
FPGAs are fascinating! Would love to see more in depth stuff on them but from an outsider view, ever since FPGA retro gaming I've been curious about them especially in more particular applications. Cool job!
@@von... a little 😉
I’ll be honest and say that I’m NOT a pic nerd in all honesty. But Linus’ enthusiasm in vids like these makes them really interesting and I sometimes feel like I actually understand him from time to time❤
I identify XD
We are just here to say that this is a super cool video and whoever you worked with on getting this done are amazing human beings.
Your channel is interesting. I'm trying to decide whether you are Intel or not.
@@kanedaku I think so
@@buzz7313 Yeh, I'm not there yet. Their channel has mostly watermarked videos, but they could be ripped from an actual Intel source. However, low subs count and channel launched on an odd day fairly recently; along with no mention of the channel on the Intel website....
Its not bending either way. And I'm undecided about this Intel channel also. 🤣
@@kanedaku ok I didn't watch any of the videos so I don't know I just went into the main Intel UA-cam channel and went into the channels section and I saw it there yet again I could have misread it
@@kanedaku actually it is linked on their verified channel
it's odd ua-cam.com/users/Intelchannels
The thing is, visitors like Linus, who can ask good questions, lead to solved problems, at least sometimes. And the fact that Linus knows nothing about this in detail also helps, that the engineers rethink there work from the "basics". And he brings in new points of views, he might bring them to a new relatively simple approach to some component, because engineers suffer from complex thinking regularly. It's basically a win-win-win situation.
And you can't imagine how often problems are solved, do to a new team member, who askes good questions.
Btw, I'm nearly a full fledged engineer in electronicall engineering myself, so I, at least, don't talk complete nonsense.
Seeing all the work that goes into the brains of my PC makes me appreciate it a little more. Also that Chicken and Egg answer was kinda funny
Seriously. The fact we can go buy an awesome chip for a couple hundred $ feels like a miracle considering how freaking complicated they are to make.
@@codelltaylor Thats the main reason I made this comment. I never thought too much about it, but it just blows me away that there's so many people/steps involved. working on the bleeding edge is crazy.
@@codelltaylor Shhh. They might just make the price higher now.
Jk. Economies of scale.
For real though, if you look into Computer Science for a while, you realize how freaking many systems, devices and layers a seemingly "trivial" thing like this very UA-cam comment I typed on my keyboard has to go through before it appears on your screen, it's just mind-boggling... the bytes of this comment go through SO many chips around the globe and everything happens faster than I can type a single word
That hot-plugging PCIe ("I've never been so FRUSTRATED") video is one of my big favorites, so it's nice to see somebody like Intel following through on that tech!
They definitely should be enthusiastic about what they do. Think of everyone who relies on them, UA-cam, LMG, Google. The whole tech world relies on either Intel or AMD (for the most part), and half the time Intel and AMD learn from each others successes or failures.
Too many take these peoples work for granted.
Kieran Brown nobody cares, Big Tech is evil!
Elon needs to clean Twitter, rest we never need! too evil!
Intel is real, AMD is gone, TSMC scum in Taiwan?
Everyone takes everyone else's work for granted. That's what money is for.
i mean, we are paying them, so we do expect a high quality product. if they were doing all this for free, then we could be grateful
Linus talking about the thermal hydro pneumatic thing: "it's super cool!"
Me, an intellectual: yes exactly
Except when it's super hot.
Linus in the Intel Headquarters is like a child at a candy store.
that's a fab in Israel not hq...
Well done for copying a sentence from the description 👏
Who wouldn't.
More like a child in a candy _factory._
As long as, as per his usual problem with dropsy, it doesn't turn into a bull in a china shop.
It's true. Videos like these are wayy better than those marketing PRs to get the consumers really appreciate what intel does and is capable of.
The research, passion and quality that have gone into these fab lab videos are incredible.
Major props to LMG for inspiring the next gen of enthusiasts and future engineers.
Thanks Linus! I switched from pre-si to post-si debug around the start of the pandemic. It's good to finally be able to see the inside of one of the labs I've been working "in" :)
One of the coolest LTT series of videos ever, Linus' excitement was palpable and I cant wait for LTT Labs for him to have a mini version of tech heaven to play in.
I would be willing to be those CPU cooler blocks make an appearance in the future now that Linus sees how the pros mitigate condesation build up for example.
This has been one of the most interesting series of LTT yet. Only Linus can be in full chill mode at one of the most intense work area. Lol
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This is seriously one of the most interesting series' I've seen! It must have been such an incredible opportunity for Linus to tour the facilty and share it with us along the way!
Imagine Linus incorporates some of the acquired knowledge into his IT Labs? I am so hoping it takes off, totally looking forward to it. Great video, Linus & Team!
Has this trip altered any of LTT's plans for the labs or was Linus able to discuss any lab plans with intel and their engineers for logistics / research / other questions? Love this content and looking forward to more of it!
you should ask that on wan show
agree, it would be great WAN show question
I think the cooler design might influence overclocking content from both LTT and labs
doubt linus managed to poach any intel employees
@@thecrazycat8745 i don't think he can afford the lowest paid one at that fab.
i wanted to go to college to eventually end up in one of these labs. Nothing interests me more than how cpu's work and what makes them tick. ive always looked at it like alien technology. i get goosebumps from thinking that us humans can achieve something like this. sadly, as a DACA recipient, i am not eligible for any government aid such as fafsa and could not even come CLOSE to affording school as i go.
here i sit today as a Diesel mechanic/owner operator of a semi truck. **wipes tear** it was beautiful to at least get to see this with my own eyes. thank you for that.
If there's a will there's a way, as a DACA recipient myself I am currently in pursuit of an Electrical Engineering degree. I don't know what part of the US you're in but there's a lot of help out there. Simply speaking to a community college counselor can help plan out your college carrier. There are also programs inside the college (such as EOPS) that help less fortunate individuals with financial assistance. I have a friend (also DACA recipient) who just graduated with a masters in Chemistry. It's harder for us but not impossible, it's a test on how badly you want it.
Here's the crazy thing. I work in the chip business (I actually design chips) and I understand how most of this works, at least at a high level. And I STILL think it's magic, bordering on alien tech.
By the way, there's lots of other parts to the chip business other than Intel. And you don't always have to have a fancy degree. For example, Jim Williams: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Williams_(analog_designer) . I don't believe he had a degree. But he loved electronics and had a mind for it. So he worked himself up to being one of the best known representatives for a large chip company.
You can definitely still apply. I work as a technician in the Intel labs with no degree or previous experience. I just showed a lot of interest in the field with a home server and stuff. Its so cool to be able to work with future equipment.
I'm sorry to hear that. I am an always have been into automechanic (gasoline), and lately I have been looking into possibly doing something like computer art/animation, computer science, computer pentesting, ect. Sadly, I am 33 yrs old qn although everyone says it's not to late to learn qt what age...... well, it's so hard at my age to pick things up super easy. Plus, I'm good with automotive and I feel if I went into something software computer wise, I'm not sure I could afford to take a pay cut an do this an that in life that I should have done so so long ago in life. I do wish that anyone that is young and possibly still in school, if you were to read this please follow your dreams and chase what you truly would like to do in life. Do not let nothing what so ever stop you from doing it. You may possibly look back when your older like this GENTLEMAN & MYSELF wishing we would have done something different in life.
Intel is hiring manufacturing staff as fast as they possibly can. Anywhere they have a fab in the US you can likely get a job. So places like Chandler, Arizona and Hillsboro, Oregon. The requirements are pretty low right now. It's a great time to get your foot in the door.
The sponsor segment actually answered a question about my iFixit kit that's been driving me nuts. I didn't know that little metal spike was for SIM ejection
Thank you!
To me, the egg came first, in the sense that a creature that bore eggs had to come first, so that a Chicken could evolve from that creature, to what we have today. So, Chicken's always laid eggs, but they didn't snap into existence.
I prefer to put it like this: The first egg from which what we would call a chicken hatched from was laid by something which was not quite what we would call a chicken.
The question doesn't specify it is a chicken egg. Therefore any egg that existed before the chicken counts which means the egg definitley came first.
Eggs probably evolved as a way to ensure the progeny survives even if the parent is killed during gestation.
If Linus knew ANYTHING about tech, he would know that that Thermal “Doodad” is actually not a thermal doodad at all. That is a thermal DOOHICKEY which is extremely different from a doodad.😤
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Decided to leave UA-cam.
@@white-bunny I'll just commit a sudoku
Technically it's a doodad because it has a kajigger whereas the doohickey has a thingamajig.
That DIMM slot on the FPGA card is for CXL validation, basically PCI-E attached RAM.
This is absolutely the best content of the whole year so far. Great job guys!
Watching these past episodes about the
Intel visit has reminded me of the huge firey passion I have for tech and why I love it. It's more then the product, it's about the tools to takes to make said product. 🤙🏻🤙🏻💯💯💯 And why I learned about computers for the last 13 years.
A really good question for those experts is what technology they are impressed by. It would be interesting to have their perspective
Something like "that Ryzen stuff is pretty dope" would be hilarious :D
Honestly, Linus, I always wanted to see a bit of what goes on behind the scenes. Thank you!
So,, in the Intel Overclocking lab, do they constantly void their warranty and have to ask themselves for customer support?? :D
Just go to unit room and get another batch to play with.
Easily one of the most interesting videos/series you've done. Thank you Linus + Intel
You know, I've been watching your videos for years and years, but this series is honestly one of the coolest things you've done. The fact that you got this kind of access is amazing, and your enthusiasm is infectious. That LADA machine is so far beyond what I would have expected that I honestly don't think I even understand it.
This has been one of the best video series yet. These Intel guys are wizards!
This is some of the best LTT content so far! Absolutely love it. Linus is having such a great time, and I get to vicariously have a great time with him! What an experience that must be.
@Linustec0 scammer preteding to be related with the channel
What really made me realize how mind boggling the semiconductor manufacturing is, was when I watching Asianometry's videos on it. EUV especially sounds like something a futuristic wizard would come up with to cast a spell.
Hopefully Linus will be able to tour TSMC or ASML next.
So what you're saying is that Linus didn't play Mat-Kot on the beach in Tel Aviv.
Hats off to the editors for not only getting all of these videos out so quickly but doing a good job and keeping it interesting. They also don’t leak any “confidential” data.
There is so much footage to go through; if anyone knows how many editors are working for Linus, please let me know down below.
He went there monthes ago. They edit all the videos at once and release them on a shedule when they are done
I'm confident that the confidential footage was blurred by Intel, not LMG
@@DanKaschel Correct, they will have to hand their cameras in to legal for alterations and vetting before leaving too i'd imagine.
This is legit awesome. And honestly, this is my experience interacting with literally every engineer that works here in Portland, OR. They're all hyped af for whatever they're working on.
I just got a massive shift in understanding of the process of debugging chips and dialing in the silicon for market. what an awesome video linus. thank you so much.. honestly I am so grateful for this. ❤😊
I think this really shows the difference in being a PC tech or hobbyist vs Hardware Engineer.
The engineering behind our PCs is complicated , expensive and challenging so never take your PC components for granted as it literally takes million of dollars to develop them! 🙂👌
Btw - how the frkkk no one there has ANY antistatic equipment??????
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises true! Many pc techs and hobbyists say you dont need anti static equipment! However at my work we ALWAYS use anti-static equipment, surfaces, clothing and bags. Try telling your boss you burnt out a £50,000 sensor because you static shocked it 😂👌 again another major difference between hobbyists and engineers!
@@bigkaswrx8115
Weeeeell,me being now @ my night shift,and working @ place ,making electronic equipment,made me suspicious...
Oh,i might ask about it my uncles (rip) son,he works/worked @Intel@Jesrusalem branch.
The Labs should be Northern ones,in Haifa.
This video was almost as interesting as the smarter-every-day video on the Saturn V - which is the most fascinating thing (computer wise) that ive ever seen. So take this as high praise. more of this please intel.
Try CuriousMarc's series on repairing an apollo guidance computer. Lots of videos, but the lengths they go through and a load of explanation makes it so worth while.
@Linustec0 scammer preteding to be related with the channel
I work at an intel r&d plant, this stuff is amazing.
Man this is amazing! Really glad Intel finally let a nerd in to talk to the inner nerds to talk to us other nerds. Really makes me appreciate the process and the technology required to get us a functional product so much more!
I'm so glad there's more of this
Touring the Intel lab with AMD laptop is just so Linus😂
Id love to see Linus do an AMD tour now just to see how the two companies differ (or don't) in their approach.
Have been really impressed with the pretty rapid turn around of how I was viewing intel as a company in just a few years.
FYI, logistically and literally the egg came first. Logistics; the egg had to exist for the initial chicken to hatch from. Literal; chickens are a relatively recent evolution within the last few million years where eggs evolved hundreds of millions of years ago.
Came here to say this, thank you
So what laid the first chicken egg If the egg came before the chicken?
@@staceyfunk9689 the question specified only the egg, not that it was a chicken egg
….i just farted.
@@staceyfunk9689 whatever came before the chicken
I work as an engineer on consumer hardware a lot of you guys probably own. Just creating the equipment to test things is a good portion of the work. Making sure all this stuff works can be more compex than the products.
The key point as to why they use compressed air to blow on the sockets when going sub ambient is likely because they are likely using membrane or desiccant dryers to pull most of the moisture out of the air they are blowing. As this significantly drops the dew point, and thus the likelihood condensation will form. Think of the air like a sponge, with warmer air having a greater capacity to hold moisture, if that air is cooled its figuratively like "squeezing the sponge". Ambient air temperature AND humidity level both play a part in dictating the dew point temperature for this reason.
Some AMD engineering staff are probably extremely interested in that custom card dimm slot;)
why? intel sucks.
@@prydzen you are the worst kind of fanboys there is. Go back to ya mama basement please
@@prydzen Their doing significantly better than bashing together a single word non question & a drunken village fool statement^_^
@@alt5494 they arent though.
@@prydzen I'm sure Intel will take your insightful criticism under advisement.
didn't know people still use laugh tracks 9:32
Linus, here's a bonus question if you see this: How many people were fans of, or watch, LTT at Intel? Did you ask, or did anyone speak up?
I think he mentioned during wan show that he had a line forming for guys that wanted his autograph.
The Laser Assisted Device Alteration is an amazing example of the power of physical access. If a person has physical access to a device, it is possible to hack/modify/alter it. That is both something that needs to be accounted for, for example, if you rent out hardware, or don't do physical security, but also counted on, as an ultimate guard against overreaching DRM. Very cool machine.
This is probably going to get lost because youtube comments suck but @ 6:42:
The RAM slot might be for their Optane PMem DIMMs. Was there a battery on the card? In the even of power loss Optane DIMMs need power for a little bit longer to finalize whatever memory operation was still in flight so they generally use batteries for that. I suspect the big battery you found in the 6TB of RAM in one PC video was for the same thing.
Even if there was no battery on it though I wouldn't count out that it is for some sort of optane testing. Their PCI-e cards use pretty much the same tech as the DIMMs just a different controller so if they'd want to validate a bunch of configurations making it so you can slot in a different DIMM instead of having to solder it to a PCB would make a lot of sense.
2:36 You can see the reflections of the two workers looking worried when Linus stick his hand too close to that board :D
Lol, your right!
14:18 Those engineers locking arms behind Linus look like they're prepared to attack Linus if he goes off-script.
It's so cool seeing somebody like Linus get so excited over the things we do as Verification & Validation Engineers. Although I have not worked on the level of ST/NXP/Intel/AMD/Micron etc, I do a lot of testing with their chips in our devices. But it's similar across the tech industry, Ver/Val Test Engineering jobs don't get the 'sex' (hah lack of a better term) appeal that Architect/Designer/Developer jobs get even though (the good ones) they have to know the Hardware/Firmware/Software just as well as the designers to in order to create appropriate test beds. For every feature/functionality there is an iceberg of test scenarios that need to be created, not even mentioning the negative scenarios or designing it for automation & CI/CD.
True, we don't have to design any functional part of the end product. But there is still immense pressure, especially in waterfall environments, to get through the tests because Ver/Val are near the end of the project "holding" up the release.
Linus is the most consistent person on youtube! ❤️
seems they've been making videos everyday for a while now
He was ANYTHING but consistent today, if he was he'd have dropped that PCIe 5.0 card
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Linus is so consistent that he wears cap even in Israel
yup, even after all of these years he is still giving us hearth attacks every time he hits something he could easly break xd . . . again
Man, that voice AI of Colton reading the ad was spot on
This may not be the place. But, ive been into tech my whole life. But it didn't go to the next level for me until i discovered Linus 4 years ago. Ive Build mutiple PC's and now working on a downstairs server, and even opening a LAN center etc. I have learned a lot and can't wait to watch each week. I look up to this guy.
The egg would have to come before the chicken because genetic differences are always created in offspring, therefore the first chicken would've been a genetic mutation within the egg. Precursors to the chicken would've still laid eggs, but weren't domestic chickens, but at some point one of them laid and egg that was a chicken.
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> What came first, the chicken or the egg?
You could say, the egg came first, because dinosaurs laid eggs a looooong time before chickens ever existed.
If you clarify the question to specifically mean a chicken egg, not just any egg, then the answer becomes: "it depends on how precisely you do define `chicken` and `chicken egg`".
Chickens evolved from their ancestors (let's call them proto-chickens) in a very slow and gradual process spanning a long period of time - so we have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, just to be able to separate chicken from proto-chicken. Keep in mind though, that this is an arbitrary choice! But no matter where you actually draw the line, there will be one parent animal that's not quite a chicken yet, having an offspring that is an actual chicken thanks to having one additional genetic mutation. The very first chicken of all time hatched from it's own egg, and thus the egg came first, or did it?
Well, the mutation that created that first chicken occurred, when the male sperm fertilized the female egg cell causing the DNA to be rewritten, and resulting in a fertilized egg cell. That fertilized egg cell later gets encased in an egg which then gets laid. And finally the first chicken hatches from that egg. Depending on how you define "chicken" and "egg" - the fertilized egg cell itself might already qualify as being one or both. When does the chicken start being a chicken? Is the egg a chicken too? Is the egg cell an egg? At this point the answer becomes undecidable, right?
If you clarify the question further to specifically mean a hatched chicken in addition to meaning a chicken egg (which probably is what Plutarch originally meant when first posing the question) - then you now have to answer the question whether an egg laid by a proto-chicken but containing the DNA of the first chicken counts as a chicken egg or not. You could argue that the egg is not an chicken egg, as it wasn't laid by a chicken. It's a non-chicken egg that contains a chicken inside - as the egg was still formed by non-chicken, thus the chicken came first, right?
It's extremely likely though, that the egg the first chicken later laid (the calcium carbonate shell, egg white, yolk, etc.), is completely identical to the egg it itself hatched from. There's a lot more genetic material defining the animal, compared to the tiny bit that defines the egg. Thus it's statistically highly unlikely, that this one mutation that caused the switch from proto-chicken to proper chicken would actually change the egg in any way. Thus, the only reliable to way to define what is a chicken egg and what is not, is through the DNA inside. And that would make the egg the first chicken hatched from be the first chicken egg. Thus, it would seem that the egg came first after all.
You might now try to define the genetic change that creates the very first chicken to be one that specifically affected the egg. Then the first chicken's eggs would be actually different from the egg the first chicken itself hatched from. But now you're just being a stickler for red tape! Remember what I told you to keep in mind? The choice of where to draw the line between proto-chicken and chicken is arbitrary, and was only done to allow for a clear differentiation between proto-chicken and chicken. But in reality, there is no clear single point where the switch occurred - and in sum there were many genetic changes, most if not all of which concerned the animal, not the egg.
Specifically picking that rare (maybe even non-existent) egg-related mutation as that arbitrary line in the sand, AND defining chicken egg as "laid by a chicken - regardless of whether there's chicken DNA inside - that's a set of very artificially crafted assumptions to make. So no, that's not a very robust and believable line of argument. And since there is no other way to arrive at "the chicken came first" - the final answer is that the egg did indeed come first.
I am blown away that this doesn't have 37 adverts that u can't skip. Respect
This trip was probably very informative for LTT labs as seeing what Intel does to test products could give Linus lots of ideas.
Lot of ideas he cant sell/apply, I imagine he signed tons of confidentiality documents.
This actually brings up an interesting question, when can we expect USB4 to be more commonly used on PCs? I know it’s starting to show up on MacBook Pros, but that’s about it.
I dint even knew it was a thing xD
Maybe 1 or 2 years ahead... Even AMD who stated that Ryzen 6K support USB4 didn't have any product that really support USB 4 in todays market YET.
Wait USB4 is a thing that exists?
@@randomuser6110 it's TB3 but not exclusive to Intel/Apple.
I guess whenever they make that amount of speed on USB actually useful. I hardly ever take advantage of USB 3 even now, and at most use USB 2 devices like external DVD drives and HIDs.
Hey Linus or anyone at LMG who *might* see this, the shorts you guys make that are sort of trailers for full videos do actually cause me to search for the full video. Good job
Some more info about FPGAs - most of them have a hard PCIe or memory block, meaning they are semi-customizable and you can't use old one with the new standard.
What they did here, is built the entire PCIe core and connected it through available transceiver pins (ignoring the built-in PCIe block, if it even was there); which would occupy a significant amount of FPGA resources, making it useless for other heavy tasks. This is actually the "default" use case for FPGAs - a design verification. Limits exist here as well, but with more flexibility - you can't use an ancient FPGA to verify PCIe 5x, because it just wouldn't have enough transceiver speed.
So, let's say, if you wanted an FPGA datacenter accelerator card, which would be forward compatible to PCIe 5x, you would have to build it with 2 FPGAs - one purely for PCIe communication purposes, another one for computing. That wouldn't make much sense, because it would be expensive and would probably lose to newer models in performance anyway.
As for the DDR slot, well, comparable to the new interface speed the DDR RAM is not a high-speed device anymore; you'll need something like HBM memory, those don't go into slots.
This is an episode “sh*t manufacturers say” but linus can walk over and ask the manufacturers!
This is amazing!
@Linustec0 scammer preteding to be related with the channel
Edit: the scammer has now changed the name of the account, but originally it contained the word "WhatsApp" and a number, as well as the name of the channel the video is on, and the hand emojis in the end were pointing there.
@@enginerd80 i reported them close to 20 times.
@@DeltaNrOne I did too. Looks like the scammer has now changed the username to something innocent-looking, assumably to let the dust fall before the next operation.
I'm more curious how at how differently AMD engineers are doing it. They're making great products with a small fraction of Intel's R&D funds.
I certainly wonder if there's anything that Intel is doing that would help AMD
@@kaldo_kaldo Probably. And vice versa. Gotta say for the underdog AMD definitely does awesome.
About the marketing bit - yeah, wholeheartedly agree. It's getting more and more important to know details about how the product is designed, manufactured and tested these day. And an insight into that is far more valuable to consumers than "suits" seem to think.
15:26 Im sure Intel is too. (Here's that envelope we asked you to deliver for us.... Thanks Linus)
I've got to say this is actually interesting for promotional content, and Im not talking about the extra sponsor at the end.
Been loving this most recent Intel series! I always love these types of episodes, and these last few have had me so excited watching them
After watching this video, I am glad that I am studying Electronics Engineering.
What a cool company to let Linus film a tour and totally geek out about how awesome their lab is.
One of the best serie of videos on the channel
The facilities, testing methods & espacially the irem is absolutely fascinating
Thanks a lot for Linus & Intel enginners
Am I the only one that noticed that the iFixIt minnow kit misspelled "Deskstops" on the bottom right of the package? @1:00
Nice catch!
I have an older Intel tablet dev board (Atom SoC) and it's equally as weird as those test benches. So many debugging ports and strange parts.
Here's the REAL answer to chicken/egg question by the great comedian Sean Lock (RiP). He said this when asked what came first, pigs or tapeworms. But it perfectly works for this too.
"Well, the Big Bang actually. What happened was the Big Bang and all the tapeworms flew into the pigs" ~ Sean Lock
To be fair, FPGA is more common than you might think. You can get a low-end FPGA for well under $10. If you want to make a custom product, don't have millions of dollars, and only want to ship fewer than a few thousand units, an FPGA can be surprisingly capable and affordable. To design and ASIC, just to get one year of licenses for one of each type of software that you need would be most of a million dollars (depends very much on who you are, how many licenses, etc.). You need digital simulators, synthesis, timing analysis, lint and CDC, formal verification, place and route, and power analysis. These licenses can be expensive.
Linus is like a kid in the candy store with these Intel lab videos!
I just saw your comment, I said something very similar lol.
More like a bull in China shop, with everything being red , ... You anxiously expect to see something drops...
I am wondering: Did you have to make a raw cut on site and one of their graphic designers blurred the sensitive material there before you can take it home, or were you allowed to do that with your team?
Intel's team blurred sensitive data and sent the final clip to him
If it is anything like Mark Rober's submarine series, they made a final cut then sent it to Intel who then viewed it and gave feedback on what needed censored
@@alecsmith8341 Do you mean Smarter Everyday's Destin?
@@alecsmith8341 its very unprofessional with high risk of data leakage of sensitive content
@@alecsmith8341 oh definitely not. Intel isn't going to let them leave the premises with that footage
01:28 this lab is just like a mining machine room :)
This is by far the coolest video you guys have ever done! Please, please do more like this. So freakin’ awesome!
Dang Intel made a huge mistake. They invited Linus for a day or two. We all know he's never going to actually leave