2024’s Most DISAPPOINTING 4K Disc Releases!

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  • @TheLoneJedi-77
    @TheLoneJedi-77 2 дні тому +57

    For me the Wallace & Gromit collection on 4K is super disappointing. It’s missing Curse of the WereRabbit and the new film on 4K. It has no HDR and worse of all it’s a 2K upscale from the last Blu Ray release with some AI upgrades which especially in the last short really makes it look off

    • @Bryandan1elson
      @Bryandan1elson 2 дні тому +4

      yep. waste of $120.

    • @stigdu99
      @stigdu99 2 дні тому +2

      I watched the new film with my family yesterday and afterwards, I showed my daughter The Wrong Trousers. I thought it looked great! I'm sure Curse of the Were-Rabbit will come out at some point in the future, but no complaints from me about the Wallace & Gromit set. I'm in the UK and have the BBC set, if that makes a difference.

    • @TheLoneJedi-77
      @TheLoneJedi-77 2 дні тому +2

      @ It’s the same transfer, I also have the UK BBC set. It’s really the 4th short A Matter of Loaf and Death that suffers from the AI upscaling the first 3 look good. It’s just a shame that no HDR was included as that would have bumped them up from good to great

    • @FORBIDCharlie1986
      @FORBIDCharlie1986 2 дні тому +4

      The price is the worst thing. If it was $19.99, no one would bat an eye on those A.I.stuff.

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 День тому

      @@TheLoneJedi-77 Damn, I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger, and stuck with the bluray...

  • @starscapesg1
    @starscapesg1 День тому +16

    The Atmos track of 1996’s Twister is not only one of the best catalog releases of the year, but is also just one of the best Atmos tracks of the year period. Leaves 2024’s Twisters in the dust!

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 День тому +1

      yeah, Twister should have been on his best of 2024 list, not to mention the gorgeous UK steelbook boxset

    • @Rayyman
      @Rayyman День тому

      I need to get it. The bluray isn't great

    • @4evasmooth
      @4evasmooth 5 годин тому

      I was just saying this to a buddy of mine. I thought the audio for Twisters was ridiculously underwhelming especially in comparison to that of the Twister

    • @MrEdWeirdoShow
      @MrEdWeirdoShow 20 хвилин тому

      Ya, if you can ever get it to play. Twister is fine on BD, but the 4K usually fails to play on Panny, Sammy, etc. And they never even offered a replacement.

  • @celluloidtherapy5003
    @celluloidtherapy5003 День тому +12

    The reason that the domestic release of Terrifier 3 doesn’t have Dolby Vision, and HDR10? Easy - they plan on taking advantage of collectors, and reissuing the film later on with those two things being new features. I see it more, and more and I absolutely detest this practice.

    • @RyanWard1987
      @RyanWard1987 День тому +3

      💯%
      The only disgraceful practice they’ve seemingly slowed down on (thank God) is the whole, “let’s release the Blu-ray first, and wait 6+ months later before releasing the 4K” for new releases.
      The excuse had always been that it’s “to gauge interest”-but of course, the self-cannibalistic nature of it all means if we skip over a blu ray release of a new film and wait for the inevitable 4K, then the blu ray sells less, and then the clueless suits may see that as, “lack of interest *in the film itself*” rather than what it really is: “a lack of interest in being forcibly double-dipped.”
      But again, thankfully, that practice has appeared to die off a bit lately… here’s hoping it stays dead/doesn’t zombify on us😅🤞

    • @celluloidtherapy5003
      @celluloidtherapy5003 День тому +1

      @ Exactly! I never bought into the “we want to gauge interest in the film” excuse. How does that make any sense? Who’s going to buy the 4K, after most everyone bought the bluray? It’s one of the more underhanded way of increasing sales, by banking on
      a form of FOMO. It also made no sense, because I began passing on the bluray release, because I knew there would be a 4K down the road. You’re absolutely right in the fact that it’s slowing down, and wise on their end, as it was causing me to be resentful of certain studios.

    • @Teddy-t5h
      @Teddy-t5h День тому +1

      Yeah, I got dupped! Umbrella has it with Dolby Vision for $26. Smh.

    • @celluloidtherapy5003
      @celluloidtherapy5003 День тому

      @ Exactly! Now, why would the film have a superior release in Australia? Terrifier 3, made the vast majority of its money, in the United States. They know that they have a much larger number of people buying physical media in America, so they “stretch out” the release, by first offering an inferior product, and then potentially doubling sales by then releasing the “definitive” edition.

    • @donbrider1316
      @donbrider1316 12 годин тому

      @@celluloidtherapy5003 Being in UK worked the other way round. No 4K of the first two so didn't go for the 4K of 3. So will probably just stick with the blu ray's, so going by the thinking of "interest" by sells of certain titles by format is a good guild of customer demand is so wrong. Also the importing by collectors will also mess with that number counting idea. The best solution in my mind would be get rid of the whole region coding and have world wide release dates / formats.

  • @oscarburrows-rangel3302
    @oscarburrows-rangel3302 2 дні тому +16

    Thanks for the heads up on “Terrifier 3!”

  • @hildamontes6146
    @hildamontes6146 2 дні тому +10

    Indeed "Far and away" is a disappointing transfer when you consider it was partially shot on VistaVision and panavision super 70 elements should have been stunning on 4K.

  • @SpaceCattttt
    @SpaceCattttt День тому +21

    James Cameron has spent too much time staring at blue aliens to remember what people look like.

    • @Gera275
      @Gera275 День тому +4

      But the blue aliens look really dope.

  • @gabrielpanola
    @gabrielpanola 2 дні тому +11

    Twisters sound is the biggest disappointment for me!!!!!!

  • @corneliusdobeneck4081
    @corneliusdobeneck4081 День тому +3

    I will give you a great word for the future by just adding a "C" -> Dis(c)appointment.
    Anyway, as a trained video producer I will not understand the whole 4K shannanigans in any way. Let's be clear about a few things:
    4K is hight x length - notihng else
    HDR is moping around with contrast and saturation - it's not even true HDR, they just use the term
    So in conclusion these things by no means say a picture looks better or worse.
    4k scans have a huge benefit when it comes to restoring a picture. 4K release not so much, since you as a person can not see the difference of the resolution.
    4K DOES come in handy for huge TVs. If you own anything up to a 60inch TV 4K is total nonesense.
    Any movie with extensive CGI like Disney stuff is not produced in 4K so any 4K release is just an upscaled version.
    Just to point out a few things.
    Anyway, just recently I saw a comparison video about the "Demolition Man" DVD vs Warner Bluray vs Arrow 4K.
    I can not express my surprise when I saw what was going on and instantly regretted selling my DVD. Yes, I most likely get my DVD back. Why.
    Well, the DVD had the most beautiful picture. NO, I'm not talking about TECHNICAL precision. I am talking about an atmospheric, beaustiful picture.
    And both Blurays of this movie looked like they were lit with 10.000Watt Halogen lamps. Bright, white light on everyone and everything and that is not pretty.
    But Hel yeah, you could see everything. Dumb rubble lying around in the street, like that's important for the movie and ect.
    The whole things gets even worse with animated movies as the 4K scans totally reveal the cell animation and destroy the illusion.

  • @Movieman2099
    @Movieman2099 День тому +4

    Absolutely agree with the comments regarding Twisters. It just didn’t have the “boom” factor that it should’ve had. The sound guy should’ve gone nuts with this mix.

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 День тому +1

      or a testament to how good the original is...

  • @dancole6867
    @dancole6867 День тому +3

    Far and away was a disappointment for sure. Didn’t expect it to get a 4k to begin with so was super excited to see it announced. The inconsistency is crazy.

  • @batman.darthmaul
    @batman.darthmaul 2 дні тому +4

    My biggest disappointment was definitely the 1956 Invasion of the Body Snatchers 4K. It had to have been sourced from elements at least two generations away from camera negative, if not more. I haven't done a direct comparison yet, but I think the Olive Films blu ray looked better.

  • @shawnsiref9271
    @shawnsiref9271 2 дні тому +8

    Agreed on Twisters. It seems that it got the same audio treatment similar to Disney's "Atmouse" mixes with low volume and weak dynamic presence. Bass is there, but for a film like this, it should be rocking the foundation. Instead, it seems to be mixed more for the soundbar generation.
    Far And Away, I was quite pleased. The picture was fine for a film of this age, similar to the recently released Legends of the Fall 4K. Very clean with nice HDR. John Williams' score for the film in Atmos is a welcomed delight. Definitely not a disappointment.
    Honestly, I was a little disappointed with Demolition Man, mostly for the lack of plentiful extra features. Picture and audio was fine, but I was hoping for deleted scenes, behind the scenes footage, etc.

    • @ronthorn3
      @ronthorn3 2 дні тому +2

      The film was trash to begin with, in my opinion.

    • @Thecatdrums3
      @Thecatdrums3 День тому +1

      Modern audio mixing is awful so it’s no surprise they can’t match the original witch had top of the line sound mixers pushing the systems. If y’all think the modern discs sound good check out the original laserdisc with cd quality stereo digital audio and Dolby Digital 5.1 that blows even modern mixes from Nolan out the window

  • @LILGHETTI
    @LILGHETTI 2 дні тому +8

    I saw true lies on stream and as the movie kept going it kept getting more waxy and smooth which is shocking!

    • @mortensgaard7466
      @mortensgaard7466 День тому +1

      Yes but if you get som info it is the way the film got recorde they made the film ass good as the could they could not make it better in 4k if they did not do it that way the movie whas not possible to whats

    • @mortensgaard7466
      @mortensgaard7466 День тому

      So what do you like a impossible movie to whatch ore a movie to whatch i like a movie to whatch over a movie impossible to whatch

  • @averagejoesworkshop
    @averagejoesworkshop 2 дні тому +5

    I agree with you regarding Twisters. Sound, and especially picture felt disappointing to me. Corridor Crew nailed what bothered me about it, and that was the darkness and that the editor wouldn't stay with the shot! I know they were trying to be "realistic", but compared to the picture and sound of the original, it pales in comparison.

  • @PIPERBOYWILLIAMS
    @PIPERBOYWILLIAMS День тому +3

    Truth is a lot of Arrow 4k restorations don’t actually look good. Wish reviewers didn’t do deals with them and recommend them.

    • @jeffro9252
      @jeffro9252 5 годин тому

      Tons of them look great though. Demolition man and trick r treat for example, those look fantastic!

  • @dbdeets
    @dbdeets День тому +3

    Couldn´t agree more. TWISTERS was such a dissapointment considering the audio. I could watch that movie after midnight without disturbing the neighbours. But I wouldn´t because it was just as dissapointing in general. 0 memorable scenes unlike the original. Which was (and perhaps still is) a sound reference track back in the day.

    • @slimdude2011
      @slimdude2011 День тому +1

      To be honest, Twister didn't need a sequel. Twister was just perfect as a standalone movie.

    • @dbdeets
      @dbdeets День тому

      @slimdude2011 Totally agree. But at least gives us memorable scenes and a great audiotrack. They couldn't even deliver that with TWISTERS. Seen and forgotten.

    • @slimdude2011
      @slimdude2011 День тому

      @@dbdeets Twisters only capitalized on the name of its predecessor, without any intent nor effort to make a good and interesting movie, like most numerous sequels that's been made of other movie franchises.

  • @HomeCinemaEnthusiast
    @HomeCinemaEnthusiast 2 дні тому +5

    With True Lies I kept my DVD and did find the Ai was overdone .

    • @MrCREWCRUSHIN95
      @MrCREWCRUSHIN95 2 дні тому +5

      They shouldn't have to use AI at all. Just do a new 4-6k scan of the negative instead upscaling a 2k blu ray.

  • @heathrowell378
    @heathrowell378 День тому +1

    Recently, I wasn't a fan of the 4K release of Riddick due to the writer/director David Twohy using his supervision of the transfer as an excuse to edit a scene near the end to make it a jarring and unecessary early fade-to-black. The edit is minor, yes, but it sets a really bad precedent of editing movies secretly and selling them to consumers as "the theatrical cut" as they did here.

  • @HomeCinemaEnthusiast
    @HomeCinemaEnthusiast 2 дні тому +1

    Great upload , I have to agree with alot of these not being the best .
    Nice video 👌👌👌👌

  • @MrEdWeirdoShow
    @MrEdWeirdoShow 23 хвилини тому +1

    Most of these duds are Europe-leaning, particularly Australian. Cameron studios, AKA the house of wax, is also weak, as usual. So no big surprises from groovy movie dude here.

  • @JimLeonard
    @JimLeonard День тому +8

    My views on the Cameron releases changed 180 degrees when I heard Cameron talking about how unhappy he was with the film stock he was forced to use on Aliens and how grainy it was. He oversaw the restoration and was beyond happy to address the excessive grain, so if that's his best vision for the film, then that's good enough for me.

  • @UnitedRedDevil13
    @UnitedRedDevil13 День тому

    How do you choose to curate and what to keep. Tough for me since i genuinely love a lot of movies.

  • @flyingrobotduck
    @flyingrobotduck 2 дні тому +3

    I would have liked HDR for Cowboys and Aliens on 4k but I wasn't disappointed at all. Of course I was upgrading from DVD so it was significant bump in quality.
    I was disappointed about the special features for Blazing Saddles 4k release, there was a TV pilot on the DVD missing on the 4k release, but it wasn't a deal breaker.

  • @MrCREWCRUSHIN95
    @MrCREWCRUSHIN95 2 дні тому +9

    The reason the James Cameron 4K's look terrible is they are AI UPSCALES os 2k Blu-rays instead of a native 4K scan of the film negative.

    • @madcrowmaxwell
      @madcrowmaxwell День тому +2

      People keep saying that, but Cameron insists that they're new scans (and at least one of the movies never HAD a Blu-ray release). The AI grain removal on its own can explain a lot of the nastiness.

    • @mortensgaard7466
      @mortensgaard7466 День тому +2

      It whas the whay the film got recorde they cant make it better they did the best they could but many does not now that

  • @mlbcom2497
    @mlbcom2497 2 дні тому +2

    Not a very relevant question to the video, but what do you think of the recent trend of studios increasing the proportion of MOD(Made on demand)?

  • @iloveblue7920
    @iloveblue7920 2 дні тому +4

    I have true lies and i found it much better than my DVD, oh the Abyss was Amazing!!!

  • @Leeappleberry74
    @Leeappleberry74 День тому +1

    Terrifier 3 I got the USA one and umbrella, Australia version and the Dolby vision is worth it over not having it

    • @Teddy-t5h
      @Teddy-t5h День тому

      If you have the US version is it worth getting the Umbrella version?

  • @MichaelShayne-n7j
    @MichaelShayne-n7j День тому +1

    Wasn't Far and Away original shot in 70kmm?

  • @garethhiggin3277
    @garethhiggin3277 2 дні тому +1

    A little belated merry Christmas shout out to you Adam but it's boxing day so it still counts so Merry Christmas to you & your family.
    Yeah the sound on Twisters was a massive low point of the film for me. No punch and wasn't blown away by it
    As for HDR etc I honestly don't mind if a film ( esp classics ) doesn't have it. As long as the picture has been cleaned up & the colouring is spot on. Like Kino's The Great escape. One of my all time fav films & looks amazing.
    I do like Cowboys & Aliens on the whole, but if studios do films like this esp with no HDR etc then the price should reflect that, so instead of in the U.K £25 maybe retail price it at £15. So collectors can decide if they want to buy it
    Shout studios nowadays are getting a bit like Paramount. A lot of their titles have been poor recently esp with the quality of the films OCN. Like Freaky, Platoon & The Craft etc. tho the range of films they restore is an amazing library to have.
    Lastly a lot of films feel rushed to me & to not do a full restoration is poor. Tho a lot of films don't deserve a 4K like Skyline, Ghost ship & maybe Cowboys & aliens for example.
    I really want We were Soldiers but it's only a 2K DI I believe. Why has this not been given a native 4K transfer with Atmos ?????????
    Also why is there a massive delay internationally in catalogue titles. This is what I really don't get. All cat films should be released at the same time internationally with the options of a steel or slip & not a steel released a year later. There are a lot of cat films that we still don't have in the U.K like Van Helsing, We were soldiers etc
    All the best Adam & keep fighting

  • @jasonedwards5363
    @jasonedwards5363 День тому

    I loved the pic of true lies. To me, no grain is best and I like it crispy as possible.

  • @blackphilipalvarez1305
    @blackphilipalvarez1305 День тому +1

    Much like comedies, I don’t feel many dramas should be getting any 4K releases, I had absolutely no interest in purchasing Little Women or Far & Away. Comedies can get away with it because at least I’m more interested in having those in my collection. I agree about Twisters because the audio was very weak compared to the original Twister. I remember in theaters not even the theater walls shook. I remember watching Twister 28 years ago in theaters and the sound was amazing and the theater shakes and I believe even blew out some of the systems in theaters lol. I don’t agree with the hate on True Lies and just glad we finally got it on 4K because that DVD was much worse.

  • @Latnman101
    @Latnman101 2 дні тому +1

    I am in total agreement with your picks and the reasons.

  • @Cine-grain
    @Cine-grain День тому +1

    Oh man I'm so sad to hear about Little Women. I was hoping to pick it up this coming month.

  • @Rayyman
    @Rayyman День тому +1

    Dolby atmos sound is not the end all be all for older movies I have movies in dts hd that sound incredible

  • @AG-bp3ll
    @AG-bp3ll 15 годин тому

    I just wish they would save the UHD format for movies that have proper elements for a quality 4K scan. Nothing worse than buying a disc and finding out it is DNRed to death or a 2K upscale. Kino Lorber has had many disappointing 4K releases. I was happy with Monster Squad but that is about it from the ones I have tried from them.

  • @adamhunt4462
    @adamhunt4462 2 дні тому +8

    Keno is horrible about not adding HDR to their 4ks.

    • @ronthorn3
      @ronthorn3 2 дні тому +4

      Kino Lorber does the most half assed transfers.

    • @jonathannoble9465
      @jonathannoble9465 День тому

      Most of their 4ks have Dolby Vision/HDR

    • @adamhunt4462
      @adamhunt4462 День тому

      @jonathannoble9465 Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, The Good Bad and the Ugly, the Great Escape, Cannibal Apocalypse, In the Heat of the Night are a few more that don't. They skip on HDR more than any other label I know of.

  • @vladyns556
    @vladyns556 День тому +2

    I love everything about True Lies on 4K. We should be grateful that it's finally out, and not complain cause we won't be getting any better copy of it.

  • @Bigtymer781
    @Bigtymer781 День тому

    I don't really watch a lot of newer movies, but I was planning on giving Twisters a chance. I guess I'll be scratching it off of my list now.
    The original Twister is great on 4K though, the twisters have almost like a growl sound to them, it sounds pretty cool.

  • @luisreyes-ortiz8546
    @luisreyes-ortiz8546 День тому +1

    I thought I was on crazy pills with my assesment of "Twisters" and its audio. I was expecting an audio presentation more like the original, but it felt lacking, to the point I even turned up the volume just to try and get to the same levels of amplitude with the Atmos on the original, and never fully got there. It sounds fine, but for a movie like it, I did expect more oomph, for lack of a better term. Not as great as many are saying it is.

  • @jamied1579
    @jamied1579 День тому

    I was really looking forward to Cowboys and Aliens on 4k but I didn't find out about the lack of any HDR until after I ordered it, but figured it might be an upgrade regardless.
    But really, I couldn't find ANY difference between it and the original studio release blu-ray from years ago - NONE. I read somewhere that KL had trouble implementing HDR successfully, and if that's the case they shouldn't have bothered - especially as it costs a lot to import KLs to Aus.
    Very disappointed.
    Personally I did like the transfer of True Lies, I prefer a cleaner look...There were a few scenes here and there where people looked a little rubbery, yes, but I could overlook it without too much problem.
    But it is one where I can understand other people not liking it...

  • @stephenadams8568
    @stephenadams8568 2 дні тому +2

    Agree on Twisters. I watched Twister a week before and was looking forward to an upgrade for Twisters and it was a downgrade.

  • @stigdu99
    @stigdu99 2 дні тому +1

    Ghost would get my vote. I was very disappointed with this one. Almost no improvements whatsoever that I could see when compared to the blu-ray apart from minor colour differences.
    If anything, I thought the picture quality looked worse than the blu-ray.

  • @eBoard3R
    @eBoard3R День тому +1

    ⚡️👌🏽👌🏽⚡️
    *Cowboys & Aliens is a guilty please of mine, shame they messed up the release* 😱

  • @pennymoquin9776
    @pennymoquin9776 День тому

    For me I have three selections the first would be terrifier 3 for the reasons you mentioned. The second would be Shout factory's Silent Night deadly night and that is because the 4K is only the theatrical version and not the uncut version even though the uncut version was upscaled from I believe in videotape they probably could have added it in through seamless branching. The uncut is only available on the accompanying blu ray disc and I also don't like the fact that Shout factory made their 4K region A only.
    The third one may be a little nitpicky but it would be on the Seinfeld 4K box set, now I think the discs so far look phenomenal in 4k but my problem is with the packaging. I spent over $200 for this set and the 4K discs come in a very flimsy cardboard case. Sony could have put it in a harder more sturdier cardboard case.

  • @slimdude2011
    @slimdude2011 День тому

    Far and Away, Terrifier 3 and Little Women, I wouldn't had bought anyway! The audio on Twisters wasn't that big of a deal to me because, there are hundreds of other 4K movies that sounds awesome in Dolby Atmos and DTS:X. As far as True Lies is concern and the rest of James Cameron's long-awaited Blu-ray/4Ks, I'm just thankful he finally released them (because he didn't have to), especially after waiting 15+ years for them. It's better than not having them in 4K on physical media at all.

  • @Boyer316
    @Boyer316 День тому +1

    Terrifier is a weird one for sure, another thst comes to mind is Terminator Dark Fate. Here in the UK we only got HDR10 but you guys got DV as well, why? Film quality aside these kind of decisions are just bizarre.

  • @ricogomez4020
    @ricogomez4020 2 дні тому

    Mine was THE CROW 4k and CHINATOWN 4k. Because both are not consisted of looking great all the way through. My THE CROW, I quickly sold it on ebay and turned a profit and kept my bluray version. Then CHINATOWN has a single movie edition with the original movie poster art months later.

  • @ahdvd
    @ahdvd День тому

    I can’t argue about True Lies, of all 3 Cameron 4k releases this year it looks the worst, I think because it is the one of them that has more scenes in daylight or lit up conditions as opposed to having a lot of darker scenes like in Aliens or The Abyss which looks brilliant (though have their own issues due to the AI upscaling used) but in the daylight scnees, or in particular the opening snow covered whites of the opening scenes my heart sank in the first minute of True Lies where even on a 4k disc I could see clear banding in the snow on the image. That shoukd not be possible with a 4k transfer and using properly set HDR, just terrible, and comparatively, that is DVD encoding basic schoolboy error or just lazyness. It feels like they just left it automated instead of having someone going over each scene and optimising it for that specific light and colour settings per that scene to differentiate between daylight, night, or for colour. It’s pretty bad. Makes me wonder if True Lies was done first and then they learned what not to do on Aliens and The Abyss.
    This year was probably the first year I’ve begun to properly embrace 4k, and bought a lot of movies pre-ordered instead of waiting till later for the release, as some that are given the 4k treatment mystify me as to why they were chosen. Arrow normally always impress me when they do decide to 4k update a certain movie though, and I have often picked up their titles when it’s been something I think stands out as a great choice - this year i got Blackhat, and Demolition Man (not had a chance to see that yet) immediately when they were available. Blackhat was a disappointment as it has the theatrical version in 4k, but was really bought for the director’s cut, which essentially just re-arranges the order of scenes and has a few small moments of extra footage, but the director’s cut is only included on a 1080p blu ray, and has no 4k version - had I known this, I would not have bothered with te 4k version and would have just boight the blu ray version, as I’m pretty sure if i watch it in future again, I will only be watching the director’s cut.
    But the biggest disappointment for me this year? Arrow’s 4k of The Chronicles Of Riddick. I have this on blu ray already from when the movie was first released a decade ago. Trust me, when I say, the Arrow release of this movie, is basically a poor man’s upscale to 4k of the same disc. There is literally no improvement in the image. It just looks like a cut and paste re-release with it run through an upscaling program. Which is a shame, because they put in the effort to include all the extras as well that are on the original disc - the only addition of any real comment is the inclusion of an open matte (the theatrical and director’s cuts are 2.35:1 ratio) version of the theatrical cut - possibly made at the time to be put out in imax screens.
    But of note on chronicles, there was a real opportunity to do some good work with this movie - the director’s cut was released at the time with tiny split-second cuts in scenes where they had originally cut the movie in the negative during editing (it was shot and edited on film) and then those scenes were re-inserted for the director’s cut on blu ray). They could have done something like use AI to recreate those missing frames (probably less than 5 or 10 frames per cut) to then smooth out the cuts, but as i said, it looks like they took the blu ray and just put it through an upscalers without any work or doing anything like a new scan of a negative, and dumped it out on disc. So disappointing.

  • @unconditionalprong
    @unconditionalprong 2 дні тому +1

    Jaws 3-D still is number one for me. It makes True Lies look pretty decent by comparison. The way that movie was shot does not translate well to the format. Stick with the Blu-ray.

  • @GeorgeMengert
    @GeorgeMengert День тому

    Loved Far And Away. Ireland scenes are amazing! Also very happy with TRUE LIES! Vast improvement over Blu-ray!

  • @misterdark6466
    @misterdark6466 День тому +1

    Older releases, Kino Lorber The Great Escape. The package said HDR however my Panny 820 did not recognize it because it was not. I was told by commenters on a 4k page it was not HDR flat and out of focus it was hard to watch. I'll have to get the other version that actually is HDR. The Toby Maguire Spider-Man trilogy just didn't pop. Very disappointing.

  • @trevorbartram5473
    @trevorbartram5473 День тому

    Agree on True Lies 4K, truly abysmal. The previous HD stream was worse! Little Women 4K is fine streaming from ATV+. Cheers!!

  • @gregorylunsford3991
    @gregorylunsford3991 День тому +1

    Yes and Yes Twisters big disappoint compared to the original

  • @papa_sloth_gaming547
    @papa_sloth_gaming547 День тому

    Damn! I bought Far and Away for my wife. It's on the way to me now! 😢

  • @TS-wh4ey
    @TS-wh4ey 5 годин тому

    My most disappointing 4K release I've ever bought was 'Heat' a couple years ago. Very dark and and no where near any better picture quality than the Blu Ray. Huge disappointment.

  • @AA-ws3vd
    @AA-ws3vd 2 дні тому +1

    I didn't pick up any of the ones on this list. ABYSS was the most important release for the decade until KILL BILL. THANK YOU FOR POSTING THESE!!!

    • @MrCREWCRUSHIN95
      @MrCREWCRUSHIN95 2 дні тому +1

      Unfortunately the abyss is another AI UPSCALE from a 2K source instead of getting a new native 4k scan from the OCN. unforgivable.

    • @AA-ws3vd
      @AA-ws3vd 2 дні тому +2

      @MrCREWCRUSHIN95 not like they will do a new scan this century. Better than the DVD.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR День тому

      ​@@MrCREWCRUSHIN95it looks great, cry more. I'm sure James cares.

  • @ryantalksphysicalmedia
    @ryantalksphysicalmedia День тому

    For me it was Terrifier 3. The grain was awful.

  • @UnitedRedDevil13
    @UnitedRedDevil13 День тому

    Ironically i was a bit underwhelmed with the Alien Romulus audio on the 4k.

  • @sochin33
    @sochin33 15 годин тому

    Twisters … I thought this was a fairly unwatchable movie. I considered the 4K because I wondered if it would enhance the experience. I streamed the movie and was unable to finish it just because it sucked

  • @josejaviersoloveracano1558
    @josejaviersoloveracano1558 День тому

    I could come with a long list of disappointments, i.e. all those 4K releases which, although offering a certain A/V improvement vs the previous blurry editions however fail to include any new supplement or offer new artwork/packaging/booklet. Many Criterion, Arrow 4k release fall in that category.
    Considering the steep price of 4K products one would expect a bit more from the manufacturers.

  • @Sansho54
    @Sansho54 2 дні тому

    Definitely disappointing about Far and Away - since it was captured on 65mm negative. I’m just wondering if it was transferred from 65mm interpositive or a 35mm reduction interpositive.

  • @captainthunderbolt7541
    @captainthunderbolt7541 7 годин тому

    Twisters is a strange inclusion, given that your problem appears to be with the film itself, and not its transfer to a 4k disc.

  • @james87367
    @james87367 День тому +1

    Twisters was the worst film I’ve seen in years. Nothing happens. Everything feels flat. Annoying characters with zero charisma. Nothing like the original.

  • @Rayyman
    @Rayyman День тому

    It's horrible that if a movie isn't a huge blockbuster but a goid movie. One if ny favorite movies is Blue Thunder and when I saw it in the theater you felt the thunderous bass when tge helicopter arrived. I love this movie but tge sound design for tge DVD abd bluray is sadly lacking great sound on every level. I'm hoping they fix it in a 4k but they're probably not going to care or even know it needs it

  • @randybradley4151
    @randybradley4151 2 дні тому

    I found Twisters to be too boombastic on Atmos. Albeit I have 2- Polk Audio HTS10 subwoofers , 1-18" Cerwin Vega Subwoofer and another 20 subwoofers in the rest of my 7.3.4 speaker setup. I found the film sounded better when I had Auro 3D.

  • @mrkirkaldy6633
    @mrkirkaldy6633 День тому +1

    Hello just getting a 4k collection started and purchased Nobody Why does this film look so bad ? Does anyone know where I can purchase Evangelion Thrice Upon a Time in 4k? Watching this on Amazon Prime was amazing

    • @Teddy-t5h
      @Teddy-t5h День тому

      Nobody is an upscale. On a good setup it don't look too bad but could be better. Not all upscale are bad but I don't know of any great ones.

  • @brunomachado7279
    @brunomachado7279 2 дні тому +1

    Sure there are exceptions, but 4k became a gimmick with lots of lazy releases. Blu ray was the last really relevant format for the eyes, I think.

  • @bigdadd09able
    @bigdadd09able День тому

    Umbrella version does of T3

  • @andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697

    Wallace and Gromit had it bad but I thought it was ok as an upgrade so I ordered it from the uk through Amazon and some of the others are alright

  • @screamingeekmedia
    @screamingeekmedia День тому

    The issue with Terrifier 3 is weird! I didn't get it. I did order the trilogy from Umbrella. Won't get it until next month.

  • @bstatmeister
    @bstatmeister День тому

    Signs not getting atmos should on this list

  • @iNeverHadMercy
    @iNeverHadMercy День тому +1

    Subscriber and Supporter for years on your channel ultimately for this……the Year End Wrap Up! Enjoy your dedication and details for the Culture/Hobby. My only gripe IS ….”True Lies”. It Popped and Enthralled like it was just made NOW. Equipment is just as paramount as Source Material fellow enthusiasts 🫡💯

  • @mustang0464
    @mustang0464 День тому

    It Came From Outer Space 4K was too grainy in my opinion.

  • @brianperkins1088
    @brianperkins1088 2 дні тому

    I was also disappointed with Far and Away. Thought there would be more improvement in detail over the previous Blu-ray.

    • @minakonina
      @minakonina 2 дні тому +1

      Aww dang I got it but haven't had a chance to watch

  • @aarongilmore1254
    @aarongilmore1254 2 дні тому

    I don't blame Adam for anything on his list. He said it was very subjective. And when he brought up little women 94 5.1 that made sense to me. But I knew twisters would be the one where "here is where we know Adam is more an audiophile than anything else. Because there's always that one pure audio example."

  • @ipatsa
    @ipatsa 2 дні тому

    Damn wish I'd known about the audio issue on Little Women I just bought it 😢

  • @robertfaulkner1824
    @robertfaulkner1824 2 дні тому +4

    Twisters audio sucked in theaters too. Not interesting in getting

    • @Gera275
      @Gera275 День тому

      It was a great opening on imax (and the rodeo). The 4K was a step down though

  • @davidbaron6647
    @davidbaron6647 2 дні тому

    ADAM, I mentioned before that I originally started out with one subwoofer with my 5.71 Atmos but now I have five subwoofers I have two on the front two in the back and one subwoofer like in the middle of the room so for me twister sounded amazing for me twister sounded amazing maybe because I'm spoiled with the five subwoofers I may take it to the the Twister movie to my office home office and listen to it with the soundbar to see what it sounds like the Soundbar home theater system is a 5.1 with Dolby Atmos so I'll give you I'll shoot you a comment later on if I re-watch it in the home office

  • @clshuford
    @clshuford 2 дні тому

    Steel Magnolia's was very disappointing to me

  • @GamezGuru1
    @GamezGuru1 День тому

    I would add Memories of Murder to the list - I doubt many nave seen it but there was a UK release of this Korean film by Curzon, and it's the softest, lowest quality 4K I've ever seen. No HDR, just a dreary mess which other than some color tweaks, was no better than the BD.

  • @redx459
    @redx459 День тому +1

    Yuup twisters audio was pathetic.

  • @SeekingGodsWill
    @SeekingGodsWill 2 дні тому

    I guess I got lucky. I only bought good discs this year. My only sell backs to the used record Store were Paint your wagon( I saw it, I don't need to see it again), 3 days of the condor(Same deal), and Clash and Wrath of the Titans(just subjectively awful movies to me.). I thought this year was pretty strong. Godzilla Kong, Dune 2, Furiosa, Bad Boys 4+. A bunch of my favorites came out strongish, to very strong.

  • @00CRITICAL
    @00CRITICAL 2 дні тому

    The Frighteners import with ATMOS - worst ATMOS implementation I have ever heard. They just push the audio track to all 7.1 channels with very few sound effects that do any traveling (like the cape passing the car in the third act) it looks great but sounds like azz 😢

  • @MontgomeryPaulon
    @MontgomeryPaulon 2 дні тому

    Terrifier 3 was disappointing on 4K. Highlights are overblown, but I guess that’s just the film itself and not the 4K transfer. But in my opinion it just didn’t look good on 4K.

  • @stephendevore9926
    @stephendevore9926 День тому +1

    Like alot of products are sold new and improved.??? Just the packaging to raise the price. The work not done but sold that it or it was messed up and nobody said anything.
    From T2 THE WAXING TO TRUE LIES THE WAXING THE JAWS 3 THE WAXING 3 OF THE WORST MOVIES . THIS OBVIOUS DEBACLE. THE ORIGINAL WAS OUT SO LONG IN A PARTICULAR VIEW OF FANS ONLY KNOW THESE VERSIONS . TO ALTER THEM THE YOUNGER FANS CAN SEE THE OBVIOUS MANIPULATION OF EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING IS BAKED IN A WAXING SOUP 🍲 😮😊.

  • @jerometipton7954
    @jerometipton7954 2 дні тому

    I agree that twisters is weak on audio no way the old one sounds dramatically better and true lies picture does not look great and the sound is also not great a lot of movies sound was really weak this year

  • @williamdriver1959
    @williamdriver1959 2 дні тому

    It’s been explained by twin flicks as why it cannot be fixed. Probably should listen to that.

    • @mortensgaard7466
      @mortensgaard7466 День тому

      The same whit true lies it cant be made better becurse of the way they made it they can fix it by make the movie agian

  • @Ghostrecon12
    @Ghostrecon12 2 дні тому

    Yeah, I thought the new TWISTER Dolby Atmos was really weak myself...
    I returned my new TWISTER...
    True Lies look like the actors rubbed fake tan lotion on their faces...

  • @SupaRush
    @SupaRush 2 дні тому +4

    Despite Terrifier 3 being on the list, that doesn't mean don't watch it. Arguably the most gruesome and wild movie of the year.

    • @MovieGuy365
      @MovieGuy365  2 дні тому +2

      Absolutely. Gory AF and very enjoyable.

    • @themtgdude486
      @themtgdude486 2 дні тому +1

      Not a film I would recommend haha but I’m really enjoying the franchise.

    • @Die217
      @Die217 2 дні тому

      I would say grab the umbrella release, they’re region free

  • @nicholassheffo5723
    @nicholassheffo5723 День тому

    Lucky you! A bunch of LITTLE WOMEN 4K copies are missing the 5.1 mix.

  • @rubski-ds9yc
    @rubski-ds9yc 2 дні тому

    I read that true lies could not be fixed do too the original film being destroyed

  • @AeroDude73
    @AeroDude73 День тому

    So TRUE LIES is as bad as T2 with the waxy look?

  • @jctai100
    @jctai100 2 дні тому +3

    Terminator 2 is so bad it gets a spot every year! 😂

  • @SWATTECHNOLOGIES
    @SWATTECHNOLOGIES 2 дні тому

    True Lies comes across on my new QLED TV as perfect, beautiful and VERY natural. I think the derision hurled against this movie is unsubstantiated by objective evidence, but it became audiophile lore it was bad and waxy, which then became audiophile truth. Once something becomes audiophile truth, if you disagree, then you are by design no longer a legitimate audiophile. It's ridiculous.

    • @davidgolden1726
      @davidgolden1726 День тому +1

      Audiophile, lol, it's not the audio problem it's the video that's the problem 🙈🙄🤣😉

    • @NoFate_777
      @NoFate_777 День тому

      it looks like shit

    • @SWATTECHNOLOGIES
      @SWATTECHNOLOGIES День тому

      @@davidgolden1726 The people interested in high-fidelity sound are consequently also interested in a high-quality video presentation as well. They are one in the same person. It is a natural extension. But if it makes it less triggering for you, I will say videofile. The video is only a problem for people that approach their viewing after hearing it is problematic; thus, they are scarred by bad reviews and see a version that is emotionally tainted by preconceived thoughts. If you play it for someone without the baggage of hyper-knowledge about video pictures, it is good. I have been in professional audio production for 40+ years, and I too am scarred when listening to things because sometimes I can pick out the problems more than just relax and listen for listening's sake.

    • @SWATTECHNOLOGIES
      @SWATTECHNOLOGIES День тому

      @@NoFate_777 Finally a more professional review

    • @NoFate_777
      @NoFate_777 День тому

      @@SWATTECHNOLOGIES says the guy that can't differentiate between audiophile and videophile

  • @Tomhyde098
    @Tomhyde098 2 дні тому +1

    Trick r Treat for me. I don’t know if my OLED is really good at upscaling Blu-rays but the old Blu-ray and this 4K look exactly the same. The 4K doesn’t look any sharper, and yeah the HDR is nice, but not enough to make a massive difference. I don’t know if Arrow is just really subtle with their 4K releases but this isn’t the first time I’ve been disappointed with them. I’m probably going to avoid future releases from them. I’m still annoyed with the Hellraiser 4K looking just “fine”.

    • @VFRZen
      @VFRZen 2 дні тому

      The Hellraiser 4K box looks orders of magnitude better than the BluRays. For example, the matte paintings look atrocious on the Hellraiser 2 Blu whereas the 4k release looks solid and indicative of how I remember it looking in the theaters.

  • @daninilsen7657
    @daninilsen7657 11 годин тому

    All Cameron films are terrible on 4K. Even Terminator. It is out of focus, over-sharpened and the original mono-mix is weak.

  • @Thecatdrums3
    @Thecatdrums3 День тому +3

    Wallace & gromit; being a ai nightmare
    The terminator; another Ai nightmare
    Aliens: ai nightmare again from Cameron
    True lies; ai nightmare as well as new color grade
    The abyss; another Ai & new color grade from Cameron
    & the keep for not including any extra footage

    • @alexh2790
      @alexh2790 День тому +1

      I haven't heard anyone complain about T1.

    • @papa_sloth_gaming547
      @papa_sloth_gaming547 День тому +1

      I thought the Terminator was great and The Abyss!

    • @JoeDinoco
      @JoeDinoco День тому

      Disagree the terminator looks amazing

    • @Thecatdrums3
      @Thecatdrums3 День тому

      @@alexh2790 Watch damn fool, idealistic Crusaders video on it especially to someone that has seen the film originally from a theatrical film print or on the laser disc and DVD original presentation. You can see what added details the AI are creating

    • @Thecatdrums3
      @Thecatdrums3 День тому

      @@papa_sloth_gaming547 terminator like the abyss had tons of AI used for it only difference between the abyss in terminator is that terminator, kept a closer presentation to at the colors looks like originally was some new colored timing where is used mainly for the night scenes. The abyss was completely changed, and it’s color timing as well as having AAI artificially add details where there were none again, comparing it to the original DVD and lazy days for both films. You will see that the AI will willy-nilly. Add random details to what it thinks it’s something.

  • @clarkg5946
    @clarkg5946 2 дні тому +7

    I had never seen True Lies before. I may be in the minority but I watched it and thought it looked pretty good, especially considering all the hate it got. Very happy to add it to my collection. I still enjoy seeing the reviews on here even if they differ from my own opinion.

    • @cavalierdecoupe
      @cavalierdecoupe 2 дні тому +2

      Agree!!
      There're grain fest un-watchable blu rays out there but hey, as long as they are grainy I hear no complaints. I love the look of True Lies and T2 on 4K!

  • @JestersDeadUK
    @JestersDeadUK 8 годин тому

    Tbh they’re all utterly shite (besides True Lies) so no biggie 😂

  • @BirdArvid
    @BirdArvid 2 дні тому

    Relieved that none of these titles were of any interest to me, so not personally affected by them. But: it is sad and not a little troubling that not only small boutique labels suffer this, but also big studio blockbuster films do: the fear for me is that at some point, a release I've wanted for forever will look like a James Cameron 4K, and that will make me angry.