8 Days in Golden Trout Country Day 6 | Backpacking and Fishing For Golden Trout near Mount Whitney

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  • @dparker2763
    @dparker2763 Місяць тому +3

    This whole series is fantastic.

  • @radsoup89
    @radsoup89 24 дні тому +1

    Great stuff Jim! Gotta get up there!

  • @outsidewithmike
    @outsidewithmike 9 днів тому +1

    Fine I'll be the one to say it - pretty ripped for an old fella! Inspires me to work harder now geez! Seriously though that's great. Love those gorgeous fish. I was trying to figure out where you were in relation to Whitney but was hard to tell for sure. I've only seen this area from 13,000 ft plus! Still catching up on your vids. Great series! I'm gonna look at some small folding solar panels and see how long it takes to charge a few camera batteries.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  9 днів тому

      @@outsidewithmike Thanks. Yeah, I've been thinking the same about the solar panels. There's got to be a better way than all these heavy batteries.

  • @chili1593
    @chili1593 Місяць тому +1

    Nice fish. Camping above timberline is challenging, at least to me.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @@chili1593 Thanks! I guess there can be many challenges, the altitude, the distance, the lack of campsites/ difficulty in pitching tents. What do you find difficult?

    • @chili1593
      @chili1593 Місяць тому +1

      @ the moonscape. I’m a tree hugger

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @@chili1593 Gotcha!

    • @chili1593
      @chili1593 Місяць тому +1

      @@highcountrychroniclesfound another book if you don’t have it. Nine Passes by Todd Bruce who retraces McDermands steps

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому +1

      @ Wow. Sounds cool. Also sounds like a good idea for a long summer backpacking trip. 😁 Thanks!

  • @garyweglarz
    @garyweglarz Місяць тому +1

    Great video! Thanks guys!

  • @edg4462
    @edg4462 Місяць тому +1

    Especially enjoyed the cruising fish footage at 11:15, such a fun video and lots of bites. You commented about running low on battery, wondering if do you recharge via solar?

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Ed! Glad you enjoyed it... even the shakey cam. 😅😂

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      Oh. About the solar, I may consider it for next year. I bought a solar battery pack a few years ago and it never charged. Kinda turned me off the tech.

    • @edg4462
      @edg4462 Місяць тому

      @@highcountrychronicles given your extended trips, I can imagine solar will be a big benefit for you. Presuming it works 😉

  • @jimpowell6789
    @jimpowell6789 Місяць тому +1

    Desolate terrain at the top of the world. I can feel the chill just looking at it. "Circumvent' means 'get around,' 'avoid,' 'outsmart.' "Circumambulate" means 'walk around' -- a six-bit word for sure.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      Did I say circumvent and not circumnavigate? LOL. I thought I corrected that in my editing. LOL.
      I do that a lot actually, especially if I'm tired. I may or may not have been called "Stumble Tongue" in a previous life.
      Thanks!

    • @jimpowell6789
      @jimpowell6789 Місяць тому +1

      @@highcountrychronicles We always said "circumambulate," as the rarer, fancier word. "navigate" really means in a ship (Latin "Navis"). Of course this is all hyper punctilious. But so's fishing. The real question was, could you circumvent that bouldefield -- and obviously you could. But the one on the west shore of Upper Twin on the Yosemite North Border, prolly not. Given the looks of it, we didn't even try.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @ 😅 I really need to go back to Twin. Two such Great Lakes. I really didn't get a chance to explore the lower lake enough of the far shore of the upper lake. I should look into doing that as a proper 5 or 6 days with a stop at Emigrant on the way in. 2 days to get in. One to get out with 3 days at the lakes in between. Probably time well spent.
      Navis? 3rd declension? 😅

    • @jimpowell6789
      @jimpowell6789 Місяць тому +1

      @@highcountrychronicles yes, 3rd declension. We didn't have much luck at Upper Twin but all the ten or so primo campsites down its northeast shore were infested with horseflies (it must have seen a BIG party recently) so we didn't hang out long. We fished (and camped) the little bump of a peninsula midway down the northwest shore of Lower Twin -- no fish but an utterly charming spot -- there were three of us, it could probably sleep one more in its tiny Japanese garden of bonsai hemlock . The outlet end is the stuff. The NW shore of Lower Twin is all boulderfield(the other shore is radically more impassable) but the cavalry cleared a horsetrail through it the length of the lake a few dozen yards back from the shore, if you can pick it up coming from the upper lake (don't bother trying to follow the trail down, it's mostly washed out, just stay north of the creek. Alternately, get to the lower end by staying high on the ridge above the boulderfield. There's also a crosscountry route from the northeast end of Huckleberry (a lake well worth your attention). It's easy to follow once you pick it up, steep but not messy) -- at least not messy when we did it, but steep terrain is extra-subject to erosion. (e-mail me for details). Bear Lake, SW of Haystack Peak, about 2.5 miles south of Lower Twin outlet as the crow flies is also great fishing but it's fairly complicated crosscountry route-finding and challenging terrain to get there. The other lakes west of Haystack Peak were zilch for fishing -- but Bear! Lots of firewood, too (hemlock, no less) to bake trout with. Bring foil, dill and a lemon. We visited Huckleberry six times -- a total favorite. My fisherman friends explored the length of the pathless northwest shore and the outlet end on both sides with minimal results. The inlet end is the place, the cove on the north side as well as the inlet itself, probably also upstream on the inlet.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @@jimpowell6789 Cool. You may recall that I came in from Black Bear (via Snow) and exited via Cherry Creek. I remember that bluff south of Huckleberry, not sure I'd want to do it without a real trail but I'll definitely check my older maps for a route.
      I did well fishing the inlet of the lower lake. Seemed like reasonable camping there if it wasn't buggy. Also did fairly well in the upper lake though I preferred the lower. I think you've seen this: ua-cam.com/video/WHgP2VWoALY/v-deo.htmlsi=yf4bLVGwb3li5__l

  • @jimpowell6789
    @jimpowell6789 Місяць тому +1

    Jonesin to see Day Seven. Now that the rains are here ....

  • @bernardmansey3019
    @bernardmansey3019 Місяць тому +2

    Hi Jim,
    I have the same passion for alpine fishing as you do, so your song "the hill are calling" really rings true. Where can we listen to the whole song? May be you could post a video of your friend singing this song?
    I fish alpine lakes in BC where I live and used to do so in my native Alps, but my passion today is the Winds in WY. Every June, I drive there and hike out of a trailhead with 3 weeks of food (21 days) in the pack and disappear in the remote, part of the winds for 3+ Weeks hunting goldens.
    If you're keen, I could show you the Winds one day...
    Btw, I watch and rewatch your videos all winter. That's my therapy until the snow melts.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      Hi Bernard! Glad to hear that you are enjoying the videos! Keeping the winder doldrums at bay is how I used them too!
      I'm afraid the only places you can hear the full version of the song is here: ua-cam.com/video/Fd119Bj6Ek0/v-deo.html
      And on day 4 as I'm enjoying lunch. In fact, day 5 has an alternate version at the end. 😉
      He does have other songs published however and you can listen to them here: www.youtube.com/@BreakingShadows-N2
      The Winds is not on my radar yet but someday. I'll let you know when. Your trip sounds perfect!
      Thanks for watching!

    • @jimpowell6789
      @jimpowell6789 Місяць тому +1

      You sound like a man after my own heart, Bernard. A 21-day load is pretty out there -- 18 was our max, but we used resupplies to stretch our trips out to 44, 46, 50 days. You should check out the Sierra sometime. I bet you'd like it -- the Yosemite backcountry is calling you. Happy trails.

    • @bernardmansey3019
      @bernardmansey3019 Місяць тому

      @@jimpowell6789 I carried 30 days of food once, and swore never again. My 21 days of food allow me up to 4 weeks hikes, thanks to weather days spent in my tent eating granola bars and eating a fish here and there.
      You're 100% correct, the Sierras have been calling me for a while, if nothing else, to catch goldens in their native lands. And the Sierras are closer than the Winds from my home on Vancouver island,. However, when it's time to hit the road in June, the Winds win every time for several reason:
      - Red tape and permits in the Sierras, vs none in the Winds, just my WY and Indian reservation licenses
      -Smaller fish and lower densities in the Sierras vs the Winds. It may just be my perception, but in the Winds I know where and when to go to catch 100 goldens a day from 10 to 18", or in another lake to stare at a couple dozen goldens from 20 to 26" during prespawn (I said stare at, as catching them is another story).
      -crowds in the Sierras vs literally seeing nobody for 2 weeks straight in some areas of the Winds.
      -local knowledge: I've fished +/- 100 lakes in the Winds, know in person all the biologists in charge of the different areas, have a friend on the reservation who is a packer and fisherman and know the roadless area better than me... vs I've yet to even see the Sierras.
      The solution might be one year to spend early summer in the Winds and the fall in the Sierras,.or go to the Sierras before the Winds as ice off in the Sierras seems to be at least a month earlier than in the Winds. Time will tell.

    • @jimpowell6789
      @jimpowell6789 Місяць тому

      @@bernardmansey3019 I can't begin to imagine a 30-day load. 18 was getting to be a dire grunt. 16 was manageable, 14 was OK. Our loads figured in trout four nights a week but it almost never rains in the Sierra in the summer (except brief local thundershowers -- nothing like the deluges in the Rockies). Your picture of the Sierra as crowded and permit ridden is true only for people hiking short trips in easily accessible lower west slope "destination" areas. The true backcountry is not crowded. The longest trip most people ever take is a week -- three days in and three days out. Go in four days and you've left 95% behind. In the backcountry I've gone for as long as two weeks seeing no one. In trail-less zones, truly pristine, it's almost a given. In one favorite area we spent two stretches of nearly two weeks wandering around among several classic lakes and a vast meadow zone and encountered a pair of hikers exactly once -- passing through, doing the Sierra high route. They were as surprised to see us as we were to see them. Yosemite is permit ridden but the way into the Yosemite back-country is from outside, on the east, south or north, not from inside the park. Typically we targeted large tracts of pathless terrain -- one of 50 square miles, another of about 80, another upslope from a remote trail over an obscure pass -- a canyon headwall meadow like having Yosemite Valley to yourself -- not quite so big but fully as majestic and -- utterly untouched. Ansel Adams took photos there in the late 1920s -- easy to recognize what he shot and where from. Best high Sierra stream fishing we ever encountered. One year I did a 25-day solo trip. I saw one party, the whole time (except when I dropped down to a pack station to pick up my re-supply). Golden trout are in the southern Sierra, which apparently sees much more traffic (proximity to LA is a factor). My part of the Sierra is between Devil's Postpile and Sonora pass, mostly Matterhorn Canyon and north -- rainbow trout, also brooks and browns. Keepers are 12-16+ inches. Our biggest were 19 and 20 inches, and those only just once -- a magic day, after meeting a packer with our resupply 10 miles roundtrip from our base camp -- which included a bottle of Air France chablis -- perfect timing. Those fish knew their time had come. Prime time in the Sierra is from about 20 July thru the first week of September. The melt-out varies year to year depending on the snowpack, which varies widely, and the timing of the melt, which does, too, and the elevation. Three weeks after an area melts out the mosquitoes ease off -- before that, well, you asked for it. I've done lower elevation short trips in mild snowpack years as early as late June, and trips in early July when we just figured to brave the bugs, but generally, the choice time at 7500 feet and higher starts around the last 10 days of July. I like the zone from 7000 feet up to tree-line and just above (around 10,500 feet in that part of the range). The zones of rocky desolation such as in this latest trip of Jim's, attract me less. But, each to his own. The high Sierra is about 250 miles long and 40 wide above 6000 feet. You couldn't begin to know it all in five lifetimes. I spent above 300 days in my part. I savor really getting to know terrain intimately -- and yet, even in the parts I "know" best, there's far more I never got to.
      Speaking of Vancouver Island, are you acquainted with Robert Bringhurst's translations of Haida epic?
      Happy trails.

    • @bernardmansey3019
      @bernardmansey3019 Місяць тому

      Thanks for the links Jim. I will try to memorize this tune to sing it on long hikes with heavy packs when I sometimes need a reminder of why I'm doing that to myself...

  • @michaelb1761
    @michaelb1761 Місяць тому +1

    By lower lake" do you mean the outlet pond on the lower of the two lakes up their or the lower of the two large lakes up there? Surprised after all of the effort getting up there, you wouldn't fish both of the large lakes up there that have fish in them. Loving these videos either way as thay are showing part of a dream trip I have had planned for several years but haven't gone on yet.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому +1

      @@michaelb1761 There are a few large lakes within day hikes. By lower lake I simply mean the lakelet at the outlet. I guess some would call it the same lake but since there's a definitive channel, I tend to think of it as a larger and smaller.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @@michaelb1761 Oh. Why didn't we fish the other lakes? Time and effort. This was really about spending some solid time at the second lake and sampling the others. If fishing wasn't great at the 3rd lake we would have day hikes to one of the others. Fishing was consistent and it felt like it was just a matter of time to catch something bigger. It just didn't happen.

  • @zzww9483
    @zzww9483 Місяць тому +1

    Epic series! I've been thinking of starting from the north fork L P creek trail and go across Russel Carillon pass to get to this lake. Going down the pass is probably a boulder hopping nightnare. How do you think about this route?

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @@zzww9483 Thanks! Next video drops Monday and the last day on Thanksgiving.
      I'll have to check that route out on a map and get back to you. 😁

  • @wildersville
    @wildersville Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for another great video! Do you think that for some reason the goldens were “short striking” causing your frustration ? I have had problems with short striking Goldens at the Conness Lakes behind Saddlebag Lake. Also you might consider tying your flies on hooks that have a relatively wider gap, that could improve your hook up ratio.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
      I think I probably explain it best here: ua-cam.com/video/BqMsuoZZkcE/v-deo.htmlsi=AB92vsy_BvuBBTMe&t=599
      I don't think it was short striking per say, which I interpret as fish tentatively striking or mouthing the fly and quickly turning, not wanting to commit. That did happen.
      In this case I think it was simply the fish following the fly in the same direction and not necessarily turning as they did so. I was fishing a really slow retrieve so subtle movements by the fish were harder to detect than if I were say, pulling the fly through the water a foot after each pause. Hope that makes sense.
      Thanks for the suggestion of bigger hook gap. I was fishing like a size 10 or 8 nymph. I huge fly for me. Certainly large enough. If fish can be caught on a size 20 fly, they can be caught on a size 8.
      I think it was more of a timing issue based on their actions and my responses. If a fish takes a fly and turns, then it's timing and not hook size that determines whether we get a good hook set. With a faster retrieve, we're actually pulling the fly towards the edge of the fish's mouth faster and if that fish is moving towards us, it's easier to detect. (IE Hook the fish in the mouth on the retrieve if it's not turning.)
      I see at as being an angler deficiency rather than a gear deficiency😅. I just need to be better. 😀
      Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching!

    • @wildersville
      @wildersville Місяць тому +1

      @ thanks for the explanation and details about how you were retrieving your flies !

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @@wildersville You're welcome! Thanks for the interest! Relative to how I normally fish, the flies I was fishing are huge!

  • @joed.3334
    @joed.3334 Місяць тому +1

    Maybe another time for those 22" trout but nothing wrong with those 13 " goldens.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      Nothing wrong indeed and that's what exploration is all about. Glad we did it and just because we didn't catch big fish, doesn't mean that they aren't there. 😄 Maybe next time.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @jimpowell6789
    @jimpowell6789 Місяць тому +1

    Parental advisory!

  • @rodoutdoors
    @rodoutdoors Місяць тому +1

    The first 5 seconds.. clickbait. Might as well go all out and put it in the thumbnail too. Even out the demographics for your channel 😂 Nice fish!

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @@rodoutdoors 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️ Well it does just say "shirtlessness" 🤣🤣 And it is a warning. 🤣🤣🤣
      Not sure how effective a thumbnail would be for a bunch of 45 plus years old men. 😅😅🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @jimpowell6789
      @jimpowell6789 Місяць тому +1

      @@highcountrychronicles Sorry, Jim, but we're gonna have to report you to the Committee For Decency Among Fishermen.

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @ 🤣 Hence the parental advisory. 🤣🤣

    • @tresamigosflyfishing
      @tresamigosflyfishing Місяць тому +1

      @@highcountrychroniclesExcuse me Jim but I’m 35, don’t box me in 😂😂

    • @highcountrychronicles
      @highcountrychronicles  Місяць тому

      @ 🤣