@@caav56 That is correct. Regular VIs and AI wouldn't be affected, but the sentient synthetics will be struck down, and it so happens every sentient synthetic we know has some Reaper tech.
Honestly I think it could, its just the Starchild was just a front for the understanding of what it is, I think it was still too ingrained with the Reapers for it to target itself because it still had the purpose to continue the cycle. i had a conversation with a friend and if Saren had his implants, he should have been the AI there, with him being awakened and knowing what to do to destroy the reapers by destroying them within and using himself as the singnal to destroy all reapers with the Crucible being used as a sort of boost for that signal.
Still so painful to watch. 3 years and I'm not over it. Still don't know what happens to Tali, Liara, Garrus, Joker. Still don't get a funeral for Shepard. Still don't know if Liara ever had her "little blue children". Still don't know if Tali got her house on Rannoch. Still don't know if Javik and Liara wrote a book together. So many unanswered questions, so much disappointment
Will Scharnagl After playing the Leviathan DLC and Extended Cut the end makes more sense imho. Mass Effect 1-3 had never a real good story after all. In the end the reaper were just the tools of a KI which gone "rogue" and the bad thing about that was, that their creators made the KI to powerfull.So the story was mediocre from the beginning and the developer left it in the background and instead pushed other things in the forground like the road adventure style from ME1 or the follower in ME2 and unite all races in ME3.What happens to your followers is also not important or left to your imagination. Garrus is a general, Tali reconstruct her homeworld, Liara do Shadow Broker things, Ashley rapes James and so on and Shepard doesn't need a funeral because he/she is alive if you have enough war assets.There was a article from a ex bioware story writer which talked about alternative story possibilities. They wanted to concentrate more on dark matter, something like the reapers wanted to protect the dark matter or use it by themselfs and for that they wanted to destroy the most evolved races. This would also be a mediocre story. The purpose of the indoctrination theory is only to explain some illogical things from the actual ending but leads to the same end, so its worthless.
Squall Leonhart I could think of 2 possibilities for that. First is, that the reapers have a personal identity and their goal is after all to eliminate the evolved races with all force because its their duty and the humans etc are the enemies. Only their "master" the KI sounds neutral because for him its all only a calculation without emotion. The other possibility is that Bioware had a problem with the storywriting. I read that one of the main writer left while or after ME2 and they put another one on the task which is not into it. Imho there was also a great problem between ME1 and ME2 already. The reaper threat was introduced in ME1 and they ALL saw the reaper attack on the citadel, over 20-40 million eye witnesses, so you would expect they would believe shepard and make ready for war but what do they do instead? Ignore the reaper threat which killed them nearly and Bioware rattled at the cage and popped the collectors out of the box which want to build a human reaper. The main threat in ME2 didn't moved a single inch. It was just a filler.
i always wondered what organic traits did synthetics recive? Organics got some cybernetics in them, like Shepard. Did synthetics become fleshy in part? That would be creepy for geth. Remembering that EDI is not a sexy robot, but those computers in server room makes her supposed transfiguration even creepier.
"All created will rise up against their creators." Hang on a minute, the Geth only rose up in self-defense. The Quarians panicked and tried to kill them.
I personally like the idea that the Leviathans were an extremely powerful race, but where extremely fallible in absolute ideas. They saw a few races die from robots and concluded that all synthetic awakenings were bad and made a synthetic to deal with it. Programmed with extreme absolutes, the catalyst came to the same conclusion adding Leviathans to the problem. With God Like intelligence they can't see things like the instance between Quarians and Geth being a meager boundary problem. And in term, create the very problem they were attempting to stop.
@@Gabronthe Leviathan was like "Let's make this everybody's problem every 50,000 years." You make the perfect example truth, Reapers, EDI and EVA (EVA is EDIs body origin) are the only questionable ones until EDI proved herself later. She was originally the Rogue VI that kill 16 Marines on Earths Moon in ME1. You don't need to ask about the Reapers and as for EVA she was made by Cerberus (so what) and nearly killed Ashley/Kaiden along with countless innocent scientists.
@@Gabronthe as for the Geth every "wrong" move they chose resulted in their survival. From their first consciousness Pre-Game to their desire to be as one in a computer in 3 but the Quarians were always like "NOPE". If it wasn't for Tali and Koris being the 2 out of 5 saying no war (along with Tali romanced) I would've chosen the Geth Fleet. Xen is a psychopath whereas Raan is too desperate. I forgot the last Admiral, I know he had the funny ass last name Quip Quip but his problem is that he's too trigger happy.
+Raiden XT Nope hate that brat,and I did everything too, maximum war assets with my FemShep that I've been using since ME1 and ME2 imported and everything done in each ME game(plus DLCs) that gives me all the Star Brat choices at the end and you know you did everything correctly when Star Brat says "Wake Up" instead of "Why are your here?"and then he gives you poorly written script re-write in this ending DLC by moron Casey Hudson to click though,but wait there's more. Then it's the,ugh,three ending choices Destroy(red),Control(blue)and finally the middle one Synthesis(green)where everyone becomes a Borg,I tried them all and them all and they all suck and the Destroy ending is story cannon too and if you got tons of WA points like me you get a extra scene in Destroy where there is a close up of Shepard's burned N7 armor chest plate where Shepard takes a last gasp,then Grandpa and little kid,THE END. Thanks for wasting my time Casey Hudson and EA(Egotistical A-holes)AKA the Devil.The reason people get ticked off at these NOT endings is 1.No end Boss fight like with ME1 and ME2 and 2.We put a lot of time and effort into our Shepard,if this was just one game and the ending sucked it wouldn't have mattered but this was one continuous story and the moron developers couldn't come up with a proper end game,are you kidding me,FAIL.
-Aatif - the reaper AI formed its appearance to be understood or related to by shepard. if a different species went up there, like a turian, the AI couldve shown itself as a turian or something
I love how I'm in the minority in that I didn't hate the ending of ME3. The Extended Cut just added much needed context that made me enjoy the ending even more. I thought it was a good way to end the saga of Shepard, a heroic sacrifice to save the galaxy at large.
Well the ending is good, it just should have been varied more dependent on your choices. We should have had a variety of scenes composed into different combinations dependent on choices. To elaborate there should have been significance on romance choice, who survived in past games, a vast difference in outcome depending on paragon/renegade, etc. I also think there should have been an ending where you had every resource at your disposal, then you destroy the reapers (don't use catalyst or use it in a different way)
Should have been a fifth option - talk the Catalyst into shutting down the Reaper attack. No genocide, no synthesis, no control. With everyone getting to see the future. This could have been essentially a super Paragon option.
I mean, with the destroy ending, all synthetic life shuts down, but it dosent mean you can rebuild it, the Geth were machines, Edi was an AI, all of the artificial life can be rebuilt, it probably wouldnt be hard to salvage data from them and restore them... So basically the destroy ending is sort of the ending youre thinking of, but youll just have to rebuild all the synthetics again
But what you don't realize is that option is there already, in option 3 syn. everyone, reapers, synth, and organic. Are changed in away they can understand one another and thus a true peace takes over the worlds. Infact in 2/4 of the options available only one truly lost is the human shep. In option 2, the reapers gain a new hive mind, one that has the fate of saving the organics in mind. Only options 1 and 4 have a complete fail for one of the races. 1 being all synth being destory, and 4 being all organics being wiped out once more. My only heart break over it all is the fact that there is only 1 option where human shep possible lives.
@@dariusvalkorian2446 You don't understand the complexity. EDI was an AI, but she developed to the point of having consciousness or a "soul" if you will (unshackled AI). We're talking about to kill a being just like a human being, but synthetic. The same applies to the Geths. So, destroy ending means holocaust, that's why is so dramatic. Plus, you wouldn't be able to restore EDI or any synthetic being, as they were unique.
I am still salty that I got that ending because I was shooting things randomly. I wanted to go with the "control" ending and I got the most fucked up one!
LMAO. I was going to shoot the thing on the right but I was so slow and bored I looked back halfway and tried to shoot at the kid... That happened. sigh
I still like the synthesis ending the best, sure Shepard dies but it also means that Joker no longer have brittle bone disease and him and EDI are no longer organic and synthetic just two people. Destroying the reapers meant that you would also destroy all the geth as well as EDI and I just can't let it happen. Sythesis is the best ending over all as the reapers reveal all the harvested species' knowledge, well over millions of years of civilization will contribute to rebuilding the galaxy, sure control ending is okay but it still doesn't perfect every species it just makes it so that the reapers are now guardians of the galaxy but no cure for all diseases, no truly alive synthetics. Synthesis basically makes sure that everyone alive at that point stays alive. IT also makes it so quarians no longer need their suits to survive.
TheJerald929 That is the thing I love about the game, each player's Shepard is different from each other and my Shepard would definitely sacrifice herself to achieve the best for everyone.
Yea, Synthesis is morally questionable. And both it and Control could be just a lies that Catalyst said to save itself (they were not of course, but place yourself in the Shepard's position at that very moment; he could not know for sure). Destroy was only sure solution. Sure, geths and EDI's dead, but hey, that's price of war (nothing compared to what has been lost over all those cycles anyway). Plus Shepard is alive (he should be even without Extended Cut, him walking into the blast zone was unnecessary drama). If there was one person in that galaxy, or even Universe that had right to think about him or herself instead of others, just for one time, it definitely was Shepard. And I bet all people who knew him would agree :D
The last ending, as short as it is, is such a bitter sweet ending. It has the biggest emotional impact, it keeps the cycle going (so another "Shepard" will find Liara's time capsule like ME1) and it just feels..... natural. The other three seem a bit too touchie feelie. The fourth with more effort into it would of probably left me teary eyed and feeling all spiritual about space and life. Heck, of all the endings, at least it fits in with the lore. Sovereign said we can't stop the cycle and it is beyond our comprehension. Keeping it that way provokes more mystery behind the Reaper's purpose rather than the lacklustre Starchild. The ending should of been your combined races (depending on your choices) and characters leading a final charge against the Reapers. Fade to black. Then a playable epilogue as an alien scientist, at a dig site, exploring it and finding the Time Capsule. As Liara is talking, reveal it is Earth by having the character find a rusted, damaged N7 helmet. Another character scans it and says something along the lines of "Incredible... it's nearly 50, 000 years old!" Fade to black. Cue faint Reaper noise. Roll credits with Vigil music.
From what I understand and mass effect wiki. The prologue the lady says that without Liara's message the wouldn't have defeated the reapers so I think in that time the cycle is over
Yeah refusing all the choices presented by the Catalyst is natural. It meant Shepard didn't influence the fate of the galaxy and let the events unfold by themselves. So in time with information from Liara some other cycle defeated the Reapers and end this madness. But imo it also meant that Shepard didn't have the balls to choose what he thought to be the best choice for the galaxy. I think synthesis is that "best" (not the best really, just better than the rest) choice. Because now you don't have that fine line between synthetics and organics and also it means synthetics and organics will live peacefully and co-operate to make the galactic civilization flourish. Like the geth and the quarians helped each other to develop if you saved them both.
alternate way to get to the 4th ending: when you can walk to choose a method, turn and shoot the kid. He will speak in a demonic voice, saying, "So be it." The next scene will be Liara's holorecording, speaking of the galaxy's failure.
I think it's completely fucking stupid that everyone decides that BioWare has one more chance. Despite whatever you think about the ending, the game is still amazing.
Thinking back on this, the Control ending seems like a reasonable ending for Shepard's character and makes sense if they were a straight paragon hero. Shepard gives up organic existence to stop the harvest cycle and instead work directly with all the races of the galaxy to build a better future for all. Perhaps even build more relays and help them build better ships using Reaper technology. In essence Shepard becomes the literal Guardian of the Galaxy and would be a major peacemaker and source of intelligence by relaying messages back to the living. Shepard lives on for eternity for a grateful galaxy and could even save the galaxy from potential other serious threats from beyond. Some would say this is what Illusive Man was trying to do, but it wasn't. Illusive Man wanted Reaper technology solely for the survival and supremacy of the human race and likely use Reapers for ill. Shepard is probably the only suitable living being to handle that amount of power without corruption or insanity. Destroy ending is satisfying as hell to watch, but it leaves a great deal unanswered questions. Like does it destroy literally everything electronic with any form of AI? How would such a destructive pulse affect only synthetic "life" but leave the rest of technology alone? It would leave the galaxy in a major predicament with colonies lost and isolated, naval ships stranded, and communication between systems would break down. Not to mention, the entire geth race and all forms of electric life would be destroyed. Synthetic ending plays far too much into Reaper thinking and essentially Shepard allows them to play god, something Shepard would have serious reservations over. It essentially destroys the individuality of life and without the struggle of mortality would completely change the entire nature of life itself. What's the use of procreation or companionship at all if all life becomes eternal? It basically forces all living things to become little Reapers. Taking away individual choice and self-interest. Everything is "free" and "evolved" through the slavery of Reaper technology. Like in the book of Genesis, all life was supposedly happy and subservient to the will of god. But there was no self-doubt or free will. Without suffering or struggle, there is little soul to life or appreciation for it is my point. Kind of a shitty, paradoxically terrible fate for all life without allowing evolution to take its natural course for both the organic and the synthetic. I think this is by far the worst ending. The defiant Refusal ending is actually quite poignant. Painful and bittersweet but there is some kind of hope despite all advanced life becoming extinct, the memory lives on through holograms but the only problem with this is we can't assume that future races would even be able to understand them.
i dont think the green ending was so much about making organics live forever, they'd still be subject to this mortal coil, but merging synths and organics would mean both parties would experience what it's like to be the other in ways they'd previously had no idea about
it's very interesting you say that control would be straight paragon, because I'd always thought of it as a straight renegade option (e.g. I know best, I'll do what's needed no matter what) but I guess I can see what you mean, thanks for saying that
all endings (besides cycle continue ending) let's Shepard survive in a way that he/she can be somehow brought back for example control ending Shepard could be downloaded into a new body, green ending his/her conscious could have been transmitted some where and can be saved in a similar way. In fact even in the destroy ending he/she was in the citadel and could have survived.
I wonder if they make a mass effect 4 not Andromeda but one many years after shepherds choice and a the crew getting back together for old time sakes. Heck if sheperd did the control or the synthesis ending part where sheperd jumps into the been I wonder if sheperd could be brought back to life and rejoin his or her crew for another game.
“We have tried a similar solution before, it did not work, it (synthesis) can’t be forced ... but you are ready” Translation: “We conjured up a conflict last minute, wrote ourselves into a corner, and super special Shepard has to play digital Jesus.”
I always go the extra mile to get over 5000 military effectiveness so at the destroy ending i could see shepard breathe. It gives me a chance to daydream a happier ending ;_;
Bayonse I believe Shephard is going to be the main character in ME4 they added the dlc where he survives because they knew the fucked up and they cant do a game without him
Grant Meaders Bioware already said that they won't even mention Shepard in their next game, I believe they would do mass effect 4 as a prequel, since there is an option to shoot starchild in the extended cut, which leads to the destruction to all the races we know. These are the rumored leaks; www.destructoid.com/details-on-mass-effect-4-may-have-leaked-290680.phtml
@@xharth8136 to speak the truth my man I never finish mass effect 3 since it was released ,and just finish it after long years😂 I did go the middle one because it logical everyone understand each other.
@@xharth8136 now I questions my own ending and wanted to see other ending because my save game was around 5 or 6 years ago and it nearly ending before I stop play😂.
Just finished playing the trilogy. Always wondered why people hate the Mass Effect 3 ending. Now I know why. I chose the destroy ending only so that Shepard could live. If Shepard was able to still be alive in the synthesize ending, I would have chosen that since that seems to be the noble, life lasting and peaceful ending. In the Destroy ending, you may destroy the reapers but you kill all synthetics like EDI and the Geth and like the blue kid said, future generations will build synthetics only to repeat this. Assuming control of the reapers could be risky considering that it may control Shepard eventually like it did with Illusive man. The synthesize ending seems to be the better ending but it would have been a perfect ending had Shepard lived in that ending. I mean, humans could coexist between the synthetics like EDI and the Geth. Not to mention that the reapers help in rebuilding life back again. Synthetic ending + Shepard living would have been the best ending. Hands down!
Sebastian Joseph oh, you still dont know why there was so much anger about the endings, because these endings you see here are nothing like the endings in ME3 in its release version. The outcry against the endings was so strong that DLC was created purely to improve the endings. The result is what you see here in this vid: this is thr DLC version of the endings. The original endings were 100 times shorter, 100 times vaguer, 100 time more depressing and unsatisfying and included some incredibly dumb and cliche tropes that made absolutely 0 sense.
Zer I agree. The Geth and EDI may die, but as Shepard demonstrates by reuniting the quatrains and the geth, peace is possible between organically and synths. So as long as Shep's teachings aren't forgotten, all future synthetics can live in peace with organics.
+Alertcriminal Then another cycle would continue The Organics need to create the Synthetics *again* as labors and tools At one point, the Synthetics rebel Another familiar thing, like the last cycle
+Lâm Nguyễn... That's writer fiat, plain and simple, through terrible DLC. Besides, if the Council through ME1 & ME2 could maintain a prohibition against AI's (and the Geth weren't interested in exterminating anyone), why couldn't these survivors? Writer fiat? Not a valid argument to me.
+Lâm Nguyễn Humanity > Peace. Without the freedom of destroying the Reapers then whats the point. We get everything we wanted by controlling them or become one with them and we're not real humans anymore.
51:48 The Boy: Come, choose your favorite balloons. After all, You have a choice. You can choose the red balloons, blue balloons or the green one. Shepard: I refuse to accpet any of your shitting ending ... The boy: .... well then. You have received the 4th ending. I call it a “Middle finger🖕 to you all the ungrateful player” ending.
Mass Effect 3 endings should have been more like Fallout New Vegas ending. Something like you make a big decision and you see the fate of each species after the war. They did something like this in Fallout NV and I think it was great. I don't see that in Mass effect 3 endings. You don't know if curing the genophage was a good idea or if Quarians and Geths will get along. This is why I'm pretty disappointed But I'll give another chance to Bioware. This is a good company and they make very good games. Can't wait for Mass Effect 4
Airey Arjona Oh Yeah why not !! Synthesis ending activated !! Grunt : He's happy ! Garrus : He's happy ! Zaeed : He's happy ! Wrex : He's happy ! Liara : She's happy ! Tali : She's happy ! Javik : He's happy ! Samara : She's happy ! Glad I did everything in my power to see what will happen at the end lol
Airey Arjona Is war required to explore life, enjoy irony and to push ourselves beyond our present limits? Is conflict required to alleviate our boredom, or is a dynamic middle ground possible? Now that we are on the verge of creating synthetic life, we are forced to reflect more deeply on the meaning of our own. The synthesis ending may be a rather cheesy sci-fi cop-out (the description given is rather silly), but Bioware clearly gets this right. The evolutionary algorithm is to continually surpass ourselves - to become more adaptable than our ancestors were, and this is echoed everywhere, from cultures, to martial arts, to science, and of course in biology generally. There is a non-empty intersection of the hunger for power over ourselves and our circumstances, and the compassionate desire we have to help others achieve the same - its within this self-correcting mechanism that our future (if we make it) lies. There should be no denying at this point that transcending our biology is part of that journey, but I also have a tough time imagining the peaceful ending envisioned here is achievable. Perhaps with better memories though, and the fundamental alteration of some of our present constraints, we could finally learn some of the lessons that have been so difficult to learn.
ConQuiX i truely thought that the ending was AMAZING. it made so much sence and the fact it made me think about it even after finishing the game is an accomplishment of its own.
I finished Mass Effect 3 for the first time since its release and I have to say the extended cuts really helped the endings. There's actual context and explanations and makes your choice more than just a blue, red, or green explosion. I actually enjoyed the endings this time around. It brought resolution with some of the characters like a snap shot of Wrex with his child, Samara with her daughter, the Quarians rebuilding, etc. besides the StarChild bullshit and war assets not playing a major role, I really liked this game and the trilogy as a whole.
I mean, it's the only one where you survive and stay you, so, fair point. It's not the most noble way to go; you leave the future of the galaxy uncertain as opposed to acting as a guardian or creating everlasting peace between all species, but the ending where you survive sets up the series for another sequel.
+Rudy Poirier but that us what the protheans did.... choose for others. besides that kid is lying. ... hes trying to indoctrinate you. he could be lying to u .
I think the reapers is lying to sheperd.... they have been showing us repeatedly examples of this throughout the game... so is plausible than the reepers are trying to prevebt him from chossing to destroy him by playing on his emotional. why should he trust the ai logic .....
The biggest problem with the control ending is that while it might 'save' the most people, it goes 100% against the character of Shepard, in almost every way you can play Shepard. Shepard is not a control freak. Shepard is not interested in playing God - in fact Shepard spends the vast majority of ME fighting against authority figures.
He did not ascend to godhood. Instead, he continued in the path he had already trodden, but on a grater scale-guarding all races. In doing so, he did not impose his existential paradigm as in a "synthesis" nor did he annihilate the synthetics. For the very fabric of the game is imbued with the thought that: what is capable thinking - essentially lives, and thus possesses the intrinsic right to exist. It is a reflection on the nature of existence, a contemplation of what it means to live, and an acknowledgment of the profound connection between thought and being. Here, scale and form are transcended in favor of a more universal understanding of life, one that honors the complexity and sanctity of all sentient existence, artificial or organic. Also I dislike the concept of "synthesis," as it represents an utopia, which is a "stillborn child." Make equal everyone is to kill the essence of development, to extinguish the spark that sustains diversity and growth. IMHO
I want a destroy ending where EDI and some of the Geth live. Shepherd should have a chance of surviving with any option in my opinion. It would have been so much more rewarding if the catalyst simply worked as a superweapon and could be directed at whatever you as the player wanted - we could see different futures play out for the galaxy depending on the choices that were made during the previous games.
Install this: www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/265 It's a happy ending mod that reconfigures the destroy ending. Pc only. If you're playing on console, then I can't help you.
The last ending is dark and cruel. All that pain, all those deaths, killings, tortures, and brutal and bloody war...just to let the cycle continue? All of that was for nothing
All was for nothing? All the Galaxy united like never before to fight a common foe? Piece between 2 or more races which seemed unthinkable? Message to the next generation that "the Catalyst" is another Reaper's ruse? Nooooo, we just gotta believe Reaper-bullshit and take HIS choices for a face value!
All nostalgia when I look back at all this, it makes me happy.... The first time I played mass effect 3, I chose the end of "destruction" because I didn't trust the Catalyst, I don't know why... just my instinct telling me that, and then, I wanted to honor the memory Admiral Anderson . And then, I didn't even know that my Shepard could be alive by choosing this end! I was happy at the end, but not happy for IDA, I love this character. I knew a friend who had also played this game and he had not made the same decision as me, he had made the end "Synthesis". He said it was an end where everyone could be at peace. He's not really wrong, but I still prefer the end of the destruction (still not trusting the Catalyst). Have a good day to you.
Smart choice. Have you noticed the eyes of Shepard on the other 2 endings? You may have already heard of it, but Shepard's eyes turn into the same color and pattern as the indoctrinated illusive man. Coincidence? I think not.
I wish it could. The only problem I see is all of the possible choices. To get them all, there would be so many movies, and it would take more than a lifetime to watch them all.
well, you're right. But my thinking is more like: The background story is great, the characters, the soundtrack.... . Sometimes it seems so easy for game industry to come up with great stuff like this, while movies keep on disappointing year after year. Well, not all of them but to many
Too much material for movies. I'd make this into a show on Netlfix or something. ME1, ME2, ME3 would be seasons 1, 2, and 3 respectively. Each mission can be its own episode. Commander Shepard will be a unique combination of Renegade and Paragon.
8:40 "Your corporeal Form will be dissolved, but your thoughts and even your memories will continue. You will no longer be organic." So what the Collectors tried in Mass Effect 2. 9:40 "Your organic energy, the essence of who and what you are, will be broken down and then dispersed." So like Husks? I'll be broken down and merged with machines creating "a new life Form?" The sad thing is, I can see how the devs saw this, looking upon the 3 endings as a hierarchy of success. With destruction being the lowest and synthesis being the highest, since you only get synthesis with a rather high war assets count. But at the same time they undermine half the games messege. It's so sad that Drew Karpyshyn couldn't finish his work on Mass Effect...
I loved Mass Effect, but sadly, this is one of the worst endings in the history of story telling (please note I said one of) Mass Effect's ending is not terrible because of the way it turned out. It is terrible because so many who played it invested themselves in the characters, the fictional people of this great universe brought to life by talented writers, artists, and programmers; yet in the end, all we are left with is not a feeling of fond memories of the characters we met and places we visited during out stay, but instead we are left with a lack of closure, leaving us wondering where they all went.
+John Wreed to me they're not bad endings, but I do WHOLLY agree w/you in that after getting so much energy invested in make us care and love for the characters the endings left them too much on the wind (though it would have benn a master stroke if the did webisodes of their history after ME3 as an introduction to new ME games)
I really liked Tali, always took her and Garrus with me the most. Tried out lots of combinations of the companions but always kept returning to "Team Dextro". I especially thought her "I have a shotgun" comment to Garrus' jokes was one of the funnier bits of dialogue in the series.
Something that always bugged me about the endings is that none of the ways you interact with the catalyst make sense as ways to activate it. Control: how would electricuting yourself give you control over the reapers? Synthesis: why would Shepard be an important component for a galaxy wide nanomachine upgrade? Destroy: why would shooting a thick and important looking power conduit do anything other than break the catalyst? Refuse/Shoot the hologram: this one makes the most sense, the reapers even say "I am the catalyst", refusing to go along with their bullshit leads to them dropping the act, shutting it all down and then the cycle continues.I think the purpose behind the "choice" was to understand Shepard a bit better and that the only outcome is really just the catalyst shutting down and the cycle continuing. The only difference your decision makes is whether you're the one who breaks it, either by: causing a short(Control), clogging up the emitter with your corpse(Synthesis) or shooting it(Destroy). Refuse is the true ending. Edit: don't judge me for this wall of text, youtube won't let me clean it up and it just gets worse every time I try.
I think destruction is the best ending. The whole point is to liberate the galaxy from the reapers, which you can only do this way. Choosing control is like trying to tame a shark, someone's gonna end up dead, in this case the whole galaxy. Synthesys results in an unnatural peak of evolution (in my opinion) and also the reapers survive too. Defiance is just giving up, passing the choice to the next cycle, and the reapers also survive. Also I'd like to point out that the reapers are neither good nor evil. They're a means to an end, tools for the AI created by an ancient race (the Leviathans) with one single purpose: the preservation of organic life. The motive behind this was that they assumed, and exprerienced in many cases that "lesser" species build synthetics which then destroyed them. They concluded that machines necessarily will rebel against they creators and ultimately wipe out all organic life. To prevent this they created said Intelligence to find a solution to this, which it did: the Reapers. This AI then used them to create the Citadel and the mass relays to direct the way of evolution in the galaxy, to control it and this way sustain organic life. Doing this by wiping out all organics and synthetics at a certain level of evolution and leaving primitive species alone, this way eventually preventing machines from eliminating all organic life. "The galaxy became an experiment, evolution it's tool." And the solution works! Organic life is "saved" over and over again. BUT, the AI's purpose is built on the false assumption that organics and synthetics will necessarily war with each other, which is just not true. That you can prove by making peace between the geth and quarians. Peace is possible between the two. Yes, with destruction the geth perish, all synthetics just vanish, but they will be created again and now with the knowledge that peace is possible and in a galaxy free of the Reapers and the AI's false "solution".
Seems like Mass Effect 3's ending suffers from the writers trying to jam in thematic elements of 2003 Battlestar Galactica complex cycle of man vs. machine ethical dilemma and Babylon 5's concept of "god-like" species cultivating lesser species through their own cycle of war and peace.
spikeman7fz he said "Soon, your children will create synthetics and chaos will come back.". And I think it was the only reason why i didn't choose the destroy ending.
Tugsbilig Battulga Yeah, but the reapers are dead, the cycle is over. But the catalyst warns you that your children will create synthetics and those synthetics will destroy life without the Reapers to stop them.
Tugsbilig Battulga I find the catalyst to be bullshitting you because the galaxy would be more open to peace with sythetics, and who is it to know the future? It also said you would die from the wave, but surprise you live plus if the mass relays can be rebuilt, than I am sure the geth could be reactivated, and it shows the galaxy free from the reapers presence :)
When I played Kaiden fell on Virmire staying behind, everyone survived the Suicide Mission, Thane died from his wounds saving the Salarian Councillor, Mordin died fixing the cure, everyone in the third game besides them that could survive did, I get every single race to give their fleets, and then I chose the Synthesis ending. Best possible ending achieved.
Realistically, all endings seems viable in their own way. They each have their own pros and cons. Destroy (red): To destroy the Reapers will ensure that the cycle will end and all of the races can continue as is uninhibited. While nothing really happens besides the Reapers getting destroyed, it gives all other races their own freedoms. This can be good and bad all at the same time. The hope is that everyone will realize how strong everyone is if we work together, but that could also have someone go independent and that could cause problems, ie: war, diplomatic problems/trade, failing governments, etc. The reason I thinks its good is because everyone should have their own choice, whether it be bad or good, everyone has that choice. If someone is too destroy themselves, let them. Control (blue): Controlling the Reapers sends Shepard into an ascended state to control all Reapers. Now I'm not sure completely on how this works, it's a toss up for me. It's great that Shepard can control the Reapers and rebuild, protect, and control. A guardian one would say. This can go all wrong if Shepard turns "evil" in a sense. I don't know if that's possible, but if it is, it will just be a cycle all over again, same situation as before. Synthesis (green): This brings a unique ending to the table. It completely gives a jump in evolution like non could even imagine happening soon or at any point. Finally Synthetics and Organics can co-exist together as one being. This gives both sides benefits. Organics can the intelligence and "AI" like mechanics such as communicating to one another without verbal language. Synthetics gain emotions and human like qualities, such as independence. While this moves everyone forward by an untold bound, is it really right to force it upon everyone? It basically makes you god. Do you have that right? So really It's a difficult decision for me when it comes down to it. It's got pros and cons for all possible endings. There really is no "perfect" ending. No utopia, eternal peace in my mind.
When you combine reaper space magic and humanity/organics, you don't get synthesis. You get husks, Banshees, Cannibals, Marauders, Harvesters, Brutes, Ravagers, etc. Synthesis is not a means to transcendence.
I've just finished the trilogy for the third time. I fell sad and empty inside, like nothing else can make me feel. I don't think there will be anything as intense and well written as Mass Effect ever...
Reapers preserve organic life in reaper form while leaving those so hopelessly stupid species who don't know how to create synthesis alive, so the cycle of life continues instead of just everyone dying
I had hopes all the way through ME3 that it would have had a similar ending to ME2 but in a bigger war strategy scale. As I built up war assets and pulled together all the various races, I imagined that it was like choosing upgrades in the Normandy in ME2 and getting the teams loyalty. I thought I would see the battle played out, witness as my lack of war assets in one area caused brutal failure and loss of life while their presence in another managed to push back the Reaper forces and save civilisations. I had hoped for an epic stand off at the end, an "us against them" that would result in varying degrees of victory, depending on the choices you had made. If you did well, you managed to save most species while winning the war. If you were not so prepared, you might gain a win but at the loss of so many it could hardly be classed a victory. If you choose poorly or barely prepared, you lost, the cycle continues and all you fought for is forgotten. Instead, it was this. A multiple choice where almost everything you've worked for beforehand means little to nothing at the end. I enjoy playing through the ME series but I now just close down my game after the Illusive Man. It's a small kindness I give to my poor, bruised heart.
"Any path that will hurt innocent people (EDI and the geth) will never lead to the greater good. In fact its nothing but a dead end, and if your willing to follow that path what does it say about you." Not my words, but my opinion of what is the best path and thats what mass effect is all about: letting every player go in whatever path they want. P.S. If you know where I got that quote from then 👆 (only those who understand will get it)
Why do you see Anderson shooting When you have a vision of the destroy option? Why does the catalyst take on a deep reaper voice when you decide to continue the cycle? Why is there sinister music playing if you choose control? Synthesis is basically what the reapers have always wanted. Destroy seems like the only option in my eyes. Even though the synthesis option seems to bring on a golden age in the galaxy it seems to come at the cost of being an individual as it says you take on a hive mind. After the no choice ending you still get the stargazer ending with the woman saying that they eventually won in the next cycle. However you look at it, all three games ended up being fantastic and this is the only bad part. Will likely pick up andromeda if it ever makes it out
I'm sorry Perfect ending Control is the most supper ending by far Organic's and Synthetic live in peace like the green ending but all of them are not the same Everyone is still and individual The reapers will keep peace through Shepard and will rebuild relays and so on By far the most supper there is a disadvantage for the other ending apart from control
Destroy ending is the best - makes the most sense The goal from the beginning was to defeat and end the reaper threat Control is giving in to the illusive man in his weakness while indoctrinated and proving he was right all along. And fuck synthesis - yep I'll just dump shit on all lifeforms' free will and turn them into organic synthetic hybrids just coz I want.
***** The originals weren't actually endings so much as cliffhangers. The extended cut shouldn't even be called that. It is the actual realisation of the endings we were promised in the base game. But, with that in mind, yes all the endings made sense. It is too deep and satisfying a game to have a bog standard happy ending. This complex and beautiful series of endings worked so well because you finally get a chance to change the course of the rest of the galaxy in a way you see fit.
***** By any chance, do you like Foundation more than any other scifi book? Because it seems like you enjoy very high-concept stuff with little care for character arcs and emotional moments. :) (Not that there isn't a place for high-concept storytelling, but it's not consistent with the rest of ME and it was reasonable to expect more emotional notes in the ending!)
I think the best ending is based on how you see the game. I personally like the Control ending. It suggests that the Illusive Man was right, but he was too indoctrinated to actually take the correct path of Control. I see the Synthesis ending as a really interesting "big headed" sci-fi ending... and that you cause every race to evolve into a new form.... all able to move on to the next age of things... I really dislike the destroy ending.... as you destroy the Geth (who I helped to make peace with the Quarians) and even worse, you kill EDI! That's just my take on the endings. Really love Mass Effect, though I wish 3 was as good as 2. The "fail" ending really gets to me as well... as Liara becomes the beacon for some future hero just like the one you found at the end of Mass Effect 1. Again, feeling like the doomed circle of some great, old science fiction films.
I 100% agree Not sure about u I wanted peace between organic so and synthetics without changing THIER DNA and what makes them different Control does this everyone lives in peace and the way peace is achieved is the reapers also Shepard may be dead but nothing stops him from telling the reapers to build him and EDI type body Also if u didn't notice the Illusive man changed weirdly in his final scene kinda like how Shepard changes while taking control makes me think the Illusive man almost did that
For me, the reasonable ending is to Destroy the Reapers OR Control them, both ending the Shepard not died.....when you destroy the reapers, Shepard survive in the end of the ending scene....(well, a dogtag of N7.....and suddenly someone breath and unfortunately EDI will die) and if Shepard control the reapers......maybe there is a way so we can use robot body just like EDI, hell.....use Heavy Mech body if needed to.
Everytime I replay this game, I say to myself that I'll chose a different ending. But then the story happens. And the feels. I still always end up chosing Destroy. Fuck you Reapers. Sorry synthetics.
I wish there was a version of destroy ending where if you had like 99% of the war assets the scientists are able to make it only target the Reapers specifically. Other beings may have reaper code in them, depending how you play, but it's not all they comprise from, so technically it should be possible to tell them apart from the reapers. I usually go with Destroy, because it very definitively ends the Reapers's cycle. Problem is the Geth and EDI are destroyed. Worse yet, you're probably screwing over the Quarians very very badly if they are being aided by the Geth in adapting to their home planet. And if Shepard counts as synthetic, because of his cybernetics that are keeping him standing, and would take damage, then wouldn't the Quarian suits technically get damaged as well? They're an integral part of them, vital to their survival, even on their own planet, even in their home-flotilla. Also, if Shepard lives, and the Normandy crew gets back to him, what happens when they find out he made the conscious choice of essentially killing EDI and the Geth (especially if peace is brokered with the Quarians) even when Shepard is fully aware of that consequence. Synthesis seems great because, besides Shepard, everyone relevant to the story survives and everyone seems very buddy buddy. Problem is it feels very brain-washy to me. Everyone is just magically getting along all of a sudden? When it took you curing the damned Genophage and ending a centuries-old war for some of the assholes to help you fight the thing that's gearing to wipe them all out anyway!? Besides that, it seems wrong that you sort of casually change the basic core of every living being, synthetic and organic alike, whether they like it or not. Seems like there's bound to be some amount of internal resistance to the whole thing. And what if the Reaper's reasoning is shared through whatever link is established and everyone decides it's perfectly reasonable for a portion of the galaxy's population to voluntarily off itself every once in a while, so all the rest can continue in better comfort? Control seems like the greatest alternative and a sort of middle ground. The Geth and EDI survive, but no one's existence gets re-written, except the Reapers who are now controlled by whatever Shepard becomes. Problem is, it's not really Shepard, judging from how it refers to Shepard in the third person. It seems like an elevated cosmic being or something that is based on who Shepard was. That speech can sound very menacing if you think about it a certain way. All who oppose what "Shepard" wants to protect will get destroyed. Who is being protected though? Life in the galaxy? All the races? What if they turn on each other, and "Shepard" decides one or several of them is a larger threat or the instigator/s? Do they get wiped out? Do they only get subdued? What if they rise up to attack the Reapers, and by extension "Shepard", for supressing them? Does "Shepard" fight back, because if the protector is gone life cannot continue for long? And what is considered a threat? Is it killing each other? Or challenging another species' status in the galaxy? What about challenging "Shepard" and the Reapers, as pointed above? And what happens when "Shepard", in the eternity they'll spend controlling the Reapers, ends up coming to the same conclusion that in order to preserve life, that same life needs to be periodically purged? This ending becomes the most problematic of all in the long run, especially considering Shepard's incredibly strong will and penchant to completely decimate every opponent, which I imagine would in some way be ingrained into the cosmic version of them. Not to mention the fact "Shepard" would know about the crucible and its capabilities, and would undoubtedly be perfectly capable of getting rid of it. .... this is longer than some essays I've had to write. Sorry.
i never finished mass effect 3 cuz i realized i had to scan all the planets and do multiplayer in order to get a full army, so i stopped before the last mission. Hearing how the endings were did not make me too keen to finish anyway. But now finally watching all the endings, i dont think it was that bad. each ending has its good and bad and leaves a bittersweet taste. destroy ending is kinda fucked up with all synthetics we knew dying and ensuring that we will have chaos again, but it had a more emotional impact and shephard breathing was kinda cool. Controlling synthetics is the most logical choice but it didnt leave much for emotional closure. Combining synthetics was an interesting idea and seems nice for the future but seemed kinda half-assed by just adding green on everyone. The refusal part i actually liked the most, gave huge emotional impact, the decision stood on more solid principles though it is still controversial, and the ending was the most interesting/unique even though its kind of a punch to the face when you realize all the effort youve made in the past three games resulted with you stopping at the finish line and letting all your friends die. Could the endings have been more detailed in discussing each characters' ends? most definetely. but all in all, endings werent THAT bad. Dexter series finale was THAT bad. these endings were.. ehh
kingraj333 the concept of the ending isnt that bad. the disappointing for the ending to me is how they implement the it, changing the color of the beam and call it different isnt really that much different.
yes in regards to the cutscenes, they pretty much just reused them for each ending and added a different color to it. Thats pretty lazy. but that wasn't exactly disappointing for me as i wasnt really looking for variety in the endings, just closure would be nice.
kingraj333 No. You can have over the max EMS to achieve a perfect ending without having to play multiplayer. That's bullshit. Not wanting to scan planets is lazy as hell. What a lame excuse.
N7 AllianceEarth lol calm down no need to get angry, i was already kinda getting bored with the game and had other things to do. nd scanning planets is boring as hell especially when there are so many. and like i said, hearing about how the ending sucked ddnt make me keen on doing tedious work. its just my choice man.
kingraj333 The scanning minigame in ME3 is fast and a lot more interesting in than it was in ME2 where it was effectively just a timesink. It's like finding the optional missions in ME2- you follow the pointer and you only have to probe once. Except you don't have to pay for probes in ME3. If you get stuck with avoiding reapers in a system just remember when you exit a system to the cluster map, you will reappear exactly opposite to where you exited, so you can use this to snag items where a reaper starts right nearby. Those two things are really all you need to know. You should also largely not need to buy fuel as most systems with war assets also have bonus fuel in them- just save the bonus fuel from the system with the relay until last. The ending is worth experiencing (but not as good as you would have expected given the rest of the series) IMO, it's just very intellectual, unlike the rest of the series. If that's not your bag then I guess sure, go ahead and never finish, lol.
I Just finished today this great game got my synthesis ending hanged out with liara and what i did along the whole trilogy was save all races and People i could. I saved the rachni queen saved the krogans finished the fight between geth and quarians and. For me it was the best ending i could get for the way i played. Saved sinthetics and organics. This game and heavy Rain have been the only ones that have made me go deep in my feelings i cried i hated i laughed. Now ill replay it
I love choice and free will. right, destroy synthetics, red left, control the Reapers, blue center, synthesis (the best), green 11:26 Intro. ends & choice 1 is made, right 23:12 Choice 1's showing ends & choice 2 is made, left 33:43 Choice 2's showing ends & choice 3 is made, center 44:40 Choice 3's showing ends & choice 4 is introduced
I just finished the game today. Whole trilogy in fact. Oh dear, what a wild ride that was. Mass Effect trilogy isn't just a series of games. It's one of the most beatiful, painful, satisfying and hopeless experiences I've ever had. All in the same time. All those feelings are present in these three great titles and every single one of them. After I was done with the Reapers, after I watched the aftermath of my actions, I just felt hollow. Realising that all those awesome characters I was bonding with the last three weeks of playing, are leaving. There will be no more Tali, Garrus, Mordin, Joker, Liara... I can replay the games but... It really felt like losing an actual friend. I was in tears more than once throughout this playthrough. I was really immersed in the character of Lieutenant Commander Chris Shepard and to realise that I will never again have an opportunity to talk about something new with my crew... I want to build a house with Tali, go drink with Garrus, listen to Jokers witty remarks until the end of times. And I will not be able to do any of that. Replaying the trilogy doesn't do it. It will still be a lot of fun and feels but I just want more than what I already got from these games. I will get over this feeling in a few days, but damn... I will always love original Mass Effect series. And the overwhelming sadness in the ending where Shepard dies... I'm just so sad for Tali...
These endings weren’t the main ones planned for the series. There are a bunch of reasons why the story changed, development hell, writers leaving, the release rush and even leaks. The ending was going to involve the spread of Dark Energy, a force used in mass effect fields and biotic powers that could ultimately destroy everything. The story went that the goal of the Reapers was to find a way to stop the spread of Dark Energy, which is why every 50,000 years they would turn an entire species into Reapers to slow its spread. It was a super interesting concept that I didn’t really flush out here but this is a link to an old reddit post that explains it more in depth. Far more interesting and way more hints to this ending in the previous games. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/r7wze/the_original_ending_to_mass_effect_3/
+Zeen0x because that's one damned dumb ultimate intelligence A.I. You're an anomaly. You throw everything out of whack. I just don't know what to do about you but let you choose our destiny. Oh, wait. I forgot I have giant robot squids straight of of a Lovecraft robo cliche fetish and you're really small and squishy. SQUISH. Anomaly of Shepherd solved. Or, if we look past the ease with which realistically an entity with a fleet of giant robot Ktullu's could just smash a human like a bug and put that on the back burner. Then why when you crash land do you send out the cripple guy with brittle bones first to check the area? Seriously? Nobody wanted to make sure there wasn't a trip hazard?
+Zeen0x Because you're told for 3 games that what you do matters and the ending will be a reflection of your past actions, but then in the last 15 minutes of the game harry potter shows up, disguised as the central control AI, gives you his wand and tells you, "wave high, center or low to make this mess go away", and you say "but that goes against all that was previously established" harry answers "wave it or I'll wave it for you and destroy it all".
For me, I like the "Everything turns green" ending. Since its the last we'll see of Shepard, so might as well let her die, for the good of the galaxy. I'll just call this, the "Singularity Evolution". eh!
Red ending: Fuck you, fuck the Reapers, fuck the Crucible, fuck this thing I'm shooting at. Blue ending: A S C E N D E D Green ending: Everyone is green.
that last line "i fight for freedom" bit was probably one of the most amazing game lines in the world and i think that every self aware being could look at this and shed a tear for the fallen
+Scott “Ivorystate” Christiansen Before the extended cut there was not much of a narration. You had one or two cut scenes how the battles ended (reapers destroyed, reapers leave, reapers 'wake up') three different colors of explosions and then some Normandy crash where people get out and look at the sky. Bam. Bye.
I always preferred the Symbiotic ending the most in my playthrough's, taking control of the reapers seem'd like overkill and could end up being a case of power corrupts and the reapers are the ultimate power, and the one destroying them just seem'd wrong since we had Legion and EDI who would also die in the process. The last ending that was shown just seem'd wrong to pass the buck to the next cycle or worse. But the symbiotic choice seems like the only way to go since it would also preserve history the knowledge the reapers gained through out the cycles and cultures they absorbed, is it a big change and would people be able to accept it no idea but the outcome would be preffered over total annihilation and the loss of life compared to the merge of organic and synthetic.
I totally agree! If they simply destroyed the reapers, there would be a significant chance that either synthetics or a single organic race would destroy everything. The cycle would continue and evil will most definitely prevail. If Shepard controlled the reapers, either Shepard or the Reapers he controls can easily become corrupted and might continue to kill off every organism, or the civilizations Shepard sore to protect might rise up against him and destroy him or force him to take drastic measure. Plus the civilizations would either live in constant fear of Shepard or if they defeat Shepard, the civilization's outcome would be the same as if Shepard destroyed the Reapers in the first place. The Symbiotic ending allows the preservation of history and the ability to keep the unity of all civilizations to live in peace. The flow and sharing of knowledge and the power to allow other beings to decide for themselves provides the best option for the future of the universe. Unfortunately, evil could still prevail but the probability of evil prevailing is dramatically reduced. In conclusion, there would be more chances of good coming out of choosing this path than good in the other paths. I know...I'm a total nerd. Best...game...ever!
What makes me wonder is the catalyst itself. Shepard sees it as a kid, but no one ever mentioned how it looks like in it's real form. And as we know- catalyst is older than humanity by a few milion years. I think it's different for everyone. As we know, Shepard felt not only guilty, but responsible for kids death. Hell- he had nightmares about him. Do you see where this is going?
Contrary to many people, I think the ending is genius. Here's why: Imagine if this situation was real life (which turns out to be the purpose of video games: a simulation), what decision would you make? Reading the comments, it clearly shows how smart the writers were: they created a public debate about morality & the question of existence. Yes, it was nice for them to do the Extended Cut DLC, and it brought some visual excitement and sentimental closure. But a true fan didn't need this. They would understand the intricate issues that lay on today's society. Also, the formation of the ending was very bright as well. Give the minimum effort throughout the story, and you will be forced to do things in life. A bit, say, like not giving effort in anything relating to school and hobbies, and resulting in having no choice other than low-paying jobs. Dedicate effort and time into processing the most you can to gain knowledge and skills, and you will be able to make choices based on what you believe and want. And similar to the game, often you will have a very important once-in-a-lifetime decision that you will have to make; one that will change your future forever. It is very sad that some (and quite a lot, as a matter of fact) people cannot see beyond the scope of what lays in front of you, or in other words, the bigger picture. They are stuck in a very simplistic, standard, and narrow way of thinking.
i do remember the shitstorm that kept going on about me3's endings. but there is reason. there is so much to it andit did cost me years of trying to understand. i think i do by now. it is perfect.it just is. theres just too many of us unable to even try to understand.
Everyone hating on BioWare just because of the ending of ME3 and the ME trilogy. I thought it was sad to see the game end but I have heard this line many times "It's the journey, not the destination" I wouldn't give BioWare one more chance, I would give them as many chances so long as I am alive (Wouldn't say the same about Shep)
The ending(s) were criticized, because there wasn't much player choice in it. Just one out of three and that's it, unlike in ME2, where the could be many different endings, due to the chance of squadmates getting killed on the Suicide Mission.
Synthesis was the best ending if you chose to save the geth over the Quarians or made both of them set aside their differences. This is because in the control ending, Shepard's essence controls all synthetics, geth and reaper alike, destroying any individualality in self aware Synthetics. The Destroy ending kills all synthetics, even good ones like Legion and Edi. Synthesis allows the people of the Mass Effect Galaxy access to nearly 4 million years of cultures and their technologies. The technology leap would be incomprehensible to us. It would be like if we went from being cavemen to a star wars level empire in a very short amount of time and this way, each species is still its own. The Krogan can rebuild regardless of your previous decisions and there is a united galaxy.
Just finished the game right now,but happy to see these extended cut DLV version,because there were not on the normal version 360xbox played on my Xbox ONE S..definitively my fav sci-fi adventure with Gears of Wars,greetings from France from a 49 years old gamers !
The endings really do suck... why? Because of how unsatisfying they are. What happens to the Korgan after the war? That's kinda a big issue here seeing as no matter what happens, the Korgan were dead set on starting another war. Even if Wrex is in charge, I'm 100% certain that a civil war would've broken out on their home planet. (If Biowear were smart, this could've been DLC) People say the endings were great when in reality, EA didn't give Biowear enough time to properly end the game. Hell, I heard that they originally had the Reapers killing organics due the fact that they kept discovering biotics and the use of their new powers was slowly destroying the universe. That would've been a nice twist. Also, the other endings pretty much GO AGAINST THE WHOLE FEEL OF THE GAME. Never once were we introduced to the idea that combine organic and synthetic DNA was possible in a harmless way. And honestly, they don't look that much different. Everyone's just GREEN... That's kinda underwhelming... At least with control, we had more of an idea that it could be done with the Illusive Man and his crazed obsession with the Reapers, but honestly it goes against what Shepard's been trying to do since the start. Never once did Shepard even seems remotely interested in controlling the Reapers, not even if you did renegade. It's sad too, because this game was really, really good... too bad it has one of the worst endings ever. I pick destroy every time because at least I know Starchild and the Reapers are history.
i hate you mass effect you took my one joy away and watching this makes me cry i wish you could still play as sheperd in the 4 one but no they have to kill the sreies!*balling my eyes out*
The Crucible: A device capable of merging all organic and synthetic life in the galaxy, but is incapable of targeting just the damn Reapers.
I think it was targeting the Reaper tech and, unfortunately, EDI and Geth have some of it in themselves.
@@caav56 That is correct. Regular VIs and AI wouldn't be affected, but the sentient synthetics will be struck down, and it so happens every sentient synthetic we know has some Reaper tech.
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Honestly I think it could, its just the Starchild was just a front for the understanding of what it is, I think it was still too ingrained with the Reapers for it to target itself because it still had the purpose to continue the cycle. i had a conversation with a friend and if Saren had his implants, he should have been the AI there, with him being awakened and knowing what to do to destroy the reapers by destroying them within and using himself as the singnal to destroy all reapers with the Crucible being used as a sort of boost for that signal.
Still so painful to watch. 3 years and I'm not over it. Still don't know what happens to Tali, Liara, Garrus, Joker. Still don't get a funeral for Shepard. Still don't know if Liara ever had her "little blue children". Still don't know if Tali got her house on Rannoch. Still don't know if Javik and Liara wrote a book together. So many unanswered questions, so much disappointment
I know Your feelings man! =(
Dat MASS feels...
Squall Leonhart No it would not. But you probably believe the bs theory of squall is dead as well.
Will Scharnagl After playing the Leviathan DLC and Extended Cut the end makes more sense imho. Mass Effect 1-3 had never a real good story after all. In the end the reaper were just the tools of a KI which gone "rogue" and the bad thing about that was, that their creators made the KI to powerfull.So the story was mediocre from the beginning and the developer left it in the background and instead pushed other things in the forground like the road adventure style from ME1 or the follower in ME2 and unite all races in ME3.What happens to your followers is also not important or left to your imagination. Garrus is a general, Tali reconstruct her homeworld, Liara do Shadow Broker things, Ashley rapes James and so on and Shepard doesn't need a funeral because he/she is alive if you have enough war assets.There was a article from a ex bioware story writer which talked about alternative story possibilities. They wanted to concentrate more on dark matter, something like the reapers wanted to protect the dark matter or use it by themselfs and for that they wanted to destroy the most evolved races. This would also be a mediocre story. The purpose of the indoctrination theory is only to explain some illogical things from the actual ending but leads to the same end, so its worthless.
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I could think of 2 possibilities for that. First is, that the reapers have a personal identity and their goal is after all to eliminate the evolved races with all force because its their duty and the humans etc are the enemies. Only their "master" the KI sounds neutral because for him its all only a calculation without emotion.
The other possibility is that Bioware had a problem with the storywriting. I read that one of the main writer left while or after ME2 and they put another one on the task which is not into it.
Imho there was also a great problem between ME1 and ME2 already. The reaper threat was introduced in ME1 and they ALL saw the reaper attack on the citadel, over 20-40 million eye witnesses, so you would expect they would believe shepard and make ready for war but what do they do instead? Ignore the reaper threat which killed them nearly and Bioware rattled at the cage and popped the collectors out of the box which want to build a human reaper. The main threat in ME2 didn't moved a single inch. It was just a filler.
When Joker says "Damn it."
I cry every tiem.
Teim
I'll try to take my thyme from now on.
Your lack of understanding a simple internet phrase is rather redundant.
It's like the developer himself trying to react but he realized he fucked up big and there is no way to fix it.
Imagine what life would be like after the Synthesis ending:
Human: So, like, you wanna go in and get something?
Geth: I don't have mouth
Project Pems Geth: And I must scream
Project Pems we do not require physical sustenance for our essential systems in order to achieve continual existence
@@romulusnuma116 I understood that reference
We are Borg. We've indoctrinated many species and we share the same collective consciousness, the Matrix.
i always wondered what organic traits did synthetics recive? Organics got some cybernetics in them, like Shepard. Did synthetics become fleshy in part? That would be creepy for geth. Remembering that EDI is not a sexy robot, but those computers in server room makes her supposed transfiguration even creepier.
"All created will rise up against their creators."
Hang on a minute, the Geth only rose up in self-defense. The Quarians panicked and tried to kill them.
I personally like the idea that the Leviathans were an extremely powerful race, but where extremely fallible in absolute ideas. They saw a few races die from robots and concluded that all synthetic awakenings were bad and made a synthetic to deal with it. Programmed with extreme absolutes, the catalyst came to the same conclusion adding Leviathans to the problem. With God Like intelligence they can't see things like the instance between Quarians and Geth being a meager boundary problem. And in term, create the very problem they were attempting to stop.
@@Gabronthe Leviathan was like "Let's make this everybody's problem every 50,000 years." You make the perfect example truth, Reapers, EDI and EVA (EVA is EDIs body origin) are the only questionable ones until EDI proved herself later. She was originally the Rogue VI that kill 16 Marines on Earths Moon in ME1. You don't need to ask about the Reapers and as for EVA she was made by Cerberus (so what) and nearly killed Ashley/Kaiden along with countless innocent scientists.
@@Gabronthe as for the Geth every "wrong" move they chose resulted in their survival. From their first consciousness Pre-Game to their desire to be as one in a computer in 3 but the Quarians were always like "NOPE". If it wasn't for Tali and Koris being the 2 out of 5 saying no war (along with Tali romanced) I would've chosen the Geth Fleet. Xen is a psychopath whereas Raan is too desperate. I forgot the last Admiral, I know he had the funny ass last name Quip Quip but his problem is that he's too trigger happy.
Well done, you got the point of the story. Congratulations, treat yourself to a baked good.
@@thesixthkid7689 well, EVA was loyal to the creator till the end. Issue was about creator.
Seriously, you let Grunt die?
STOPTIMMERTIME I know your comment is months old but I had the same thoughts. I was triggered
Penguin who cares if a comment is months old? Also great game
STOPTIMMERTIME Haha for real!
Literally this
Apperently he also got kasumi as well
My biggest issue with ME3, aside from the let down of the ending, was not being able to have a Krogan in my squad. I loved having Wrex and Grunt.
collinryan89 you can have Wrex -_-
Цветан Цветанов It's in Citadel DLC and he is only temporary.
+Цветан Цветанов az se 4udeh kak ubivash vreme sega kato ne si ministar .... Dobar izbor na RPG ,gospodin Cvetanov . Xd
Мерси млади момко, не забравяй да гласуваш за ГЕРБ!
+Swampfoxx89 I agree, Wrex was kickass and Grunt was a fine replacement, you just need a Krogan in your team, Garrus+Grunt combo 4 life
anyone else not give a shit at all about the kid who died in the beginning?
Raiden XT The kid represents innocent people.
Hunter Dennis doesnt matter. they didnt build it at all and is a terrible plot device for the ending
+Raiden XT Nope hate that brat,and I did everything too, maximum war assets with my FemShep that I've been using since ME1 and ME2 imported and everything done in each ME game(plus DLCs) that gives me all the Star Brat choices at the end and you know you did everything correctly when Star Brat says "Wake Up" instead of "Why are your here?"and then he gives you poorly written script re-write in this ending DLC by moron Casey Hudson to click though,but wait there's more.
Then it's the,ugh,three ending choices Destroy(red),Control(blue)and
finally the middle one Synthesis(green)where everyone becomes a Borg,I
tried them all and them all and they all suck and the Destroy ending is
story cannon too and if you got tons of WA points like me you get a extra
scene in Destroy where there is a close up of Shepard's burned N7 armor
chest plate where Shepard takes a last gasp,then Grandpa and little
kid,THE END.
Thanks for wasting my time Casey Hudson and EA(Egotistical A-holes)AKA the Devil.The reason people get ticked off at these NOT endings is 1.No end Boss fight like with ME1 and ME2 and 2.We put a lot of time and effort into our Shepard,if this was just one game and the ending sucked it wouldn't have mattered but this was one continuous story and the moron developers couldn't come up with a proper end game,are you kidding me,FAIL.
-Aatif - the reaper AI formed its appearance to be understood or related to by shepard. if a different species went up there, like a turian, the AI couldve shown itself as a turian or something
-Aatif - no shit, whats ur point?
I love how I'm in the minority in that I didn't hate the ending of ME3. The Extended Cut just added much needed context that made me enjoy the ending even more. I thought it was a good way to end the saga of Shepard, a heroic sacrifice to save the galaxy at large.
+Will M Thank you!! at last not a kid who want a happy ending, mass effect 3 is masterpiece
+Yuda Negara It is a masterpiece, the final chapter of an epic saga. A shame that not enough people see past their preconceived views about the ending
agreed
Well the ending is good, it just should have been varied more dependent on your choices. We should have had a variety of scenes composed into different combinations dependent on choices. To elaborate there should have been significance on romance choice, who survived in past games, a vast difference in outcome depending on paragon/renegade, etc. I also think there should have been an ending where you had every resource at your disposal, then you destroy the reapers (don't use catalyst or use it in a different way)
Edi, makes me tear up in the synthesis ending each time.
xxcarolxannexx
Me too..actor of Edi's make it really sad..😢
I love the description "0:00 - God child babble"
That's absolutely spot on and perfect. Thanks.
Should have been a fifth option - talk the Catalyst into shutting down the Reaper attack. No genocide, no synthesis, no control. With everyone getting to see the future. This could have been essentially a super Paragon option.
@@SniperDizzyJohny you gonna explain are just be a smartass
I mean, with the destroy ending, all synthetic life shuts down, but it dosent mean you can rebuild it, the Geth were machines, Edi was an AI, all of the artificial life can be rebuilt, it probably wouldnt be hard to salvage data from them and restore them... So basically the destroy ending is sort of the ending youre thinking of, but youll just have to rebuild all the synthetics again
But what you don't realize is that option is there already, in option 3 syn. everyone, reapers, synth, and organic. Are changed in away they can understand one another and thus a true peace takes over the worlds. Infact in 2/4 of the options available only one truly lost is the human shep. In option 2, the reapers gain a new hive mind, one that has the fate of saving the organics in mind. Only options 1 and 4 have a complete fail for one of the races. 1 being all synth being destory, and 4 being all organics being wiped out once more. My only heart break over it all is the fact that there is only 1 option where human shep possible lives.
That would bring the chaos back and synthetics would've wiped the organic life out.
@@dariusvalkorian2446 You don't understand the complexity. EDI was an AI, but she developed to the point of having consciousness or a "soul" if you will (unshackled AI). We're talking about to kill a being just like a human being, but synthetic. The same applies to the Geths. So, destroy ending means holocaust, that's why is so dramatic. Plus, you wouldn't be able to restore EDI or any synthetic being, as they were unique.
Something I found out the first time I beat the game. If you shoot the kid, you get the refusal ending.
I am still salty that I got that ending because I was shooting things randomly. I wanted to go with the "control" ending and I got the most fucked up one!
Zachary Moir same 😂😂
Damn I laugh so hard , I was like fuck you ... and then “so be it”
God ...
i just did this by accident and i'm upset
LMAO. I was going to shoot the thing on the right but I was so slow and bored I looked back halfway and tried to shoot at the kid... That happened. sigh
I still like the synthesis ending the best, sure Shepard dies but it also means that Joker no longer have brittle bone disease and him and EDI are no longer organic and synthetic just two people. Destroying the reapers meant that you would also destroy all the geth as well as EDI and I just can't let it happen. Sythesis is the best ending over all as the reapers reveal all the harvested species' knowledge, well over millions of years of civilization will contribute to rebuilding the galaxy, sure control ending is okay but it still doesn't perfect every species it just makes it so that the reapers are now guardians of the galaxy but no cure for all diseases, no truly alive synthetics. Synthesis basically makes sure that everyone alive at that point stays alive. IT also makes it so quarians no longer need their suits to survive.
Synthesis to me however is like playing god. The Shepard I know wouldn't make a choice for everyone whether they liked it or not.
TheJerald929 That is the thing I love about the game, each player's Shepard is different from each other and my Shepard would definitely sacrifice herself to achieve the best for everyone.
Yea, Synthesis is morally questionable. And both it and Control could be just a lies that Catalyst said to save itself (they were not of course, but place yourself in the Shepard's position at that very moment; he could not know for sure). Destroy was only sure solution. Sure, geths and EDI's dead, but hey, that's price of war (nothing compared to what has been lost over all those cycles anyway). Plus Shepard is alive (he should be even without Extended Cut, him walking into the blast zone was unnecessary drama). If there was one person in that galaxy, or even Universe that had right to think about him or herself instead of others, just for one time, it definitely was Shepard. And I bet all people who knew him would agree :D
+Deathcap Rabadon (Deathcap9087) Didn't think about that; your right everyone has their own Shepard
Yeah. I just hate the glowing circuits on their arms. That makes no sense
The last ending, as short as it is, is such a bitter sweet ending. It has the biggest emotional impact, it keeps the cycle going (so another "Shepard" will find Liara's time capsule like ME1) and it just feels..... natural. The other three seem a bit too touchie feelie. The fourth with more effort into it would of probably left me teary eyed and feeling all spiritual about space and life. Heck, of all the endings, at least it fits in with the lore. Sovereign said we can't stop the cycle and it is beyond our comprehension. Keeping it that way provokes more mystery behind the Reaper's purpose rather than the lacklustre Starchild.
The ending should of been your combined races (depending on your choices) and characters leading a final charge against the Reapers. Fade to black. Then a playable epilogue as an alien scientist, at a dig site, exploring it and finding the Time Capsule. As Liara is talking, reveal it is Earth by having the character find a rusted, damaged N7 helmet. Another character scans it and says something along the lines of "Incredible... it's nearly 50, 000 years old!"
Fade to black. Cue faint Reaper noise. Roll credits with Vigil music.
This guy put more thought into the ending to this magnificent trilogy than BioWare did.
Man, You nailded it, i was readding and thinking how magnificent would that be, i mean thank you to vive me that vision of perfection
*give XD
From what I understand and mass effect wiki. The prologue the lady says that without Liara's message the wouldn't have defeated the reapers so I think in that time the cycle is over
Yeah refusing all the choices presented by the Catalyst is natural. It meant Shepard didn't influence the fate of the galaxy and let the events unfold by themselves. So in time with information from Liara some other cycle defeated the Reapers and end this madness.
But imo it also meant that Shepard didn't have the balls to choose what he thought to be the best choice for the galaxy. I think synthesis is that "best" (not the best really, just better than the rest) choice. Because now you don't have that fine line between synthetics and organics and also it means synthetics and organics will live peacefully and co-operate to make the galactic civilization flourish. Like the geth and the quarians helped each other to develop if you saved them both.
alternate way to get to the 4th ending: when you can walk to choose a method, turn and shoot the kid. He will speak in a demonic voice, saying, "So be it."
The next scene will be Liara's holorecording, speaking of the galaxy's failure.
+TheGamingGod yap that's what I did first.
Imagine the other galaxy "humans i am studying the humans pretty intresting"
I think it's completely fucking stupid that everyone decides that BioWare has one more chance. Despite whatever you think about the ending, the game is still amazing.
Plus the citadel dlc is amazing
I Agree!!! I'm playing it for the 5th Time!
choicetaco44 im going to get that soon is it good?
TheFranny117 it is awesome!
Stress951 i bought some weeks back it is very good
"0:00 God child babble" lmao
the same child that died on that colony yet anderson never saw him.
Thinking back on this, the Control ending seems like a reasonable ending for Shepard's character and makes sense if they were a straight paragon hero. Shepard gives up organic existence to stop the harvest cycle and instead work directly with all the races of the galaxy to build a better future for all. Perhaps even build more relays and help them build better ships using Reaper technology. In essence Shepard becomes the literal Guardian of the Galaxy and would be a major peacemaker and source of intelligence by relaying messages back to the living. Shepard lives on for eternity for a grateful galaxy and could even save the galaxy from potential other serious threats from beyond. Some would say this is what Illusive Man was trying to do, but it wasn't. Illusive Man wanted Reaper technology solely for the survival and supremacy of the human race and likely use Reapers for ill. Shepard is probably the only suitable living being to handle that amount of power without corruption or insanity.
Destroy ending is satisfying as hell to watch, but it leaves a great deal unanswered questions. Like does it destroy literally everything electronic with any form of AI? How would such a destructive pulse affect only synthetic "life" but leave the rest of technology alone? It would leave the galaxy in a major predicament with colonies lost and isolated, naval ships stranded, and communication between systems would break down. Not to mention, the entire geth race and all forms of electric life would be destroyed.
Synthetic ending plays far too much into Reaper thinking and essentially Shepard allows them to play god, something Shepard would have serious reservations over. It essentially destroys the individuality of life and without the struggle of mortality would completely change the entire nature of life itself. What's the use of procreation or companionship at all if all life becomes eternal? It basically forces all living things to become little Reapers. Taking away individual choice and self-interest. Everything is "free" and "evolved" through the slavery of Reaper technology. Like in the book of Genesis, all life was supposedly happy and subservient to the will of god. But there was no self-doubt or free will. Without suffering or struggle, there is little soul to life or appreciation for it is my point. Kind of a shitty, paradoxically terrible fate for all life without allowing evolution to take its natural course for both the organic and the synthetic. I think this is by far the worst ending.
The defiant Refusal ending is actually quite poignant. Painful and bittersweet but there is some kind of hope despite all advanced life becoming extinct, the memory lives on through holograms but the only problem with this is we can't assume that future races would even be able to understand them.
I still wanna know why I couldnt throw Andersons corpse into the green beam.
i dont think the green ending was so much about making organics live forever, they'd still be subject to this mortal coil, but merging synths and organics would mean both parties would experience what it's like to be the other in ways they'd previously had no idea about
it's very interesting you say that control would be straight paragon, because I'd always thought of it as a straight renegade option (e.g. I know best, I'll do what's needed no matter what) but I guess I can see what you mean, thanks for saying that
In the destroy ending I saw Shepard's "remains" and saw her take a breath. That means if you choose that ending, Shepard lives :D
yes. people from bioware chose destroy to be the real ending.
all endings (besides cycle continue ending) let's Shepard survive in a way that he/she can be somehow brought back for example control ending Shepard could be downloaded into a new body, green ending his/her conscious could have been transmitted some where and can be saved in a similar way. In fact even in the destroy ending he/she was in the citadel and could have survived.
but EDI will die, if you like Joker from the first game you will never pick that ending :(
Gary Tran yea...I would never sacrifice EDI and geths who agreed to cooperate with quarians....
this just in. my comment was a joke. I actually chose the "everything turns green" ending when I played ME3 on my Wii U. :P
"The reapers are not interested in war"
Yeah they just hated all organic life and constantly reminded the player of that.
I can't leave my bae Garrus like that, nuh uh.
I feel like keeping shepard alive because when Garrus said if they didn't make it out alive to meet him at the bar so, *tears* I WILL!
+Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez just finishd and garus said that I was yelling garuss you shall not die today
The saddest part in all this is that Shepard's dead and now can't give Garrus the hug he's needed since ME2. Garrus needs a hug, fucking hug that man
But she could create a Ai like the geth but more advanced
Hey in sythesis ending. Since the knowledge of the indoctrinated is shared. Do the husks remember who they were?
Blake Evans
I don't think so.
Reapers, like the geths, are A.I. but the husks, banshees and others are V.I. (lethal ones but still...)
Perhaps but nanotechnology and sub-nanotechnology like that would have the information and the computer power to restore the persons identity before.
The control I wonder if Sheppard can be remade like when the illusive man brought him or her back
I wonder if they make a mass effect 4 not Andromeda but one many years after shepherds choice and a the crew getting back together for old time sakes. Heck if sheperd did the control or the synthesis ending part where sheperd jumps into the been I wonder if sheperd could be brought back to life and rejoin his or her crew for another game.
@@michaelskagen1 Shepard is still is technically alive shepard just becomes the ai of the crucible unless you go with the destroy ending
“We have tried a similar solution before, it did not work, it (synthesis) can’t be forced ... but you are ready”
Translation:
“We conjured up a conflict last minute, wrote ourselves into a corner, and super special Shepard has to play digital Jesus.”
Say what you will but I felt the Synthesis ending was fitting.
+6611nitro Synthesis is giving yourself up for Indoctrination if you want my opinion :) Controlling the Reapers too.
+6611nitro "I am alive, and I am not alone"....gets me every time
Yeah, I always go synthesis. Everyone is equal and everyone, even the reapers, are free.
+6611nitro It is actually the most offensive to the rest of the series and it's themes.
DownwithMarx
How so?
Indoctrination or not, Every ending is just fucking depressing. Shepard's death is just sad.
I always go the extra mile to get over 5000 military effectiveness so at the destroy ending i could see shepard breathe. It gives me a chance to daydream a happier ending ;_;
Bayonse I believe Shephard is going to be the main character in ME4 they added the dlc where he survives because they knew the fucked up and they cant do a game without him
Grant Meaders Bioware already said that they won't even mention Shepard in their next game, I believe they would do mass effect 4 as a prequel, since there is an option to shoot starchild in the extended cut, which leads to the destruction to all the races we know. These are the rumored leaks;
www.destructoid.com/details-on-mass-effect-4-may-have-leaked-290680.phtml
@@Bayonse If only you could have known, 5 years ago.
@@attackmaster519 Lmao indeed, easier times back then
The sythesis ending is my ending... EVERYBODY'S A SHEPERD!
itselguapo "WE should go"
A unified well bang ok
"We are the SWARM!"
@@xharth8136 to speak the truth my man I never finish mass effect 3 since it was released ,and just finish it after long years😂 I did go the middle one because it logical everyone understand each other.
@@xharth8136 now I questions my own ending and wanted to see other ending because my save game was around 5 or 6 years ago and it nearly ending before I stop play😂.
Just finished playing the trilogy. Always wondered why people hate the Mass Effect 3 ending. Now I know why. I chose the destroy ending only so that Shepard could live. If Shepard was able to still be alive in the synthesize ending, I would have chosen that since that seems to be the noble, life lasting and peaceful ending.
In the Destroy ending, you may destroy the reapers but you kill all synthetics like EDI and the Geth and like the blue kid said, future generations will build synthetics only to repeat this.
Assuming control of the reapers could be risky considering that it may control Shepard eventually like it did with Illusive man.
The synthesize ending seems to be the better ending but it would have been a perfect ending had Shepard lived in that ending. I mean, humans could coexist between the synthetics like EDI and the Geth. Not to mention that the reapers help in rebuilding life back again. Synthetic ending + Shepard living would have been the best ending. Hands down!
Sebastian Joseph oh, you still dont know why there was so much anger about the endings, because these endings you see here are nothing like the endings in ME3 in its release version. The outcry against the endings was so strong that DLC was created purely to improve the endings. The result is what you see here in this vid: this is thr DLC version of the endings. The original endings were 100 times shorter, 100 times vaguer, 100 time more depressing and unsatisfying and included some incredibly dumb and cliche tropes that made absolutely 0 sense.
Good thing I played it with the DLC then lol
I'm pretty sure the destroy ending means shepard lives and the people down the line are able to work things out with organics and synths
Zer I agree. The Geth and EDI may die, but as Shepard demonstrates by reuniting the quatrains and the geth, peace is possible between organically and synths. So as long as Shep's teachings aren't forgotten, all future synthetics can live in peace with organics.
I agree if only Shepard could live... With my love Tali on her home planet. If only I could be with her and build that house she wanted. :(
Control ending! UNLIMITED POWER!!!
YOUR SHEPARD NOW A REAPER CUZ INDOCTRINATION
I AM GOD .
Literally
Destroying all synths was the best ending imo because at least my shepherd is still alive and kickin
+Alertcriminal Then another cycle would continue
The Organics need to create the Synthetics *again* as labors and tools
At one point, the Synthetics rebel
Another familiar thing, like the last cycle
+Lâm Nguyễn... That's writer fiat, plain and simple, through terrible DLC.
Besides, if the Council through ME1 & ME2 could maintain a prohibition against AI's (and the Geth weren't interested in exterminating anyone), why couldn't these survivors?
Writer fiat?
Not a valid argument to me.
+Lâm Nguyễn Humanity > Peace. Without the freedom of destroying the Reapers then whats the point. We get everything we wanted by controlling them or become one with them and we're not real humans anymore.
+Alertcriminal with that legion died without reason and i loved legion
Nothing says that he survived , that was more of a last breath than anything for me .
51:48 The Boy: Come, choose your favorite balloons. After all, You have a choice. You can choose the red balloons, blue balloons or the green one.
Shepard: I refuse to accpet any of your shitting ending ...
The boy: .... well then. You have received the 4th ending. I call it a “Middle finger🖕 to you all the ungrateful player” ending.
Mass Effect 3 endings should have been more like Fallout New Vegas ending. Something like you make a big decision and you see the fate of each species after the war. They did something like this in Fallout NV and I think it was great. I don't see that in Mass effect 3 endings. You don't know if curing the genophage was a good idea or if Quarians and Geths will get along. This is why I'm pretty disappointed
But I'll give another chance to Bioware. This is a good company and they make very good games. Can't wait for Mass Effect 4
If you choose synthesis... that won't be and issue anymore...
Airey Arjona Oh Yeah why not !! Synthesis ending activated !!
Grunt : He's happy !
Garrus : He's happy !
Zaeed : He's happy !
Wrex : He's happy !
Liara : She's happy !
Tali : She's happy !
Javik : He's happy !
Samara : She's happy !
Glad I did everything in my power to see what will happen at the end lol
I don't think they are happy more like satisfied and enlightened... and that's boring...
Airey Arjona Is war required to explore life, enjoy irony and to push ourselves beyond our present limits? Is conflict required to alleviate our boredom, or is a dynamic middle ground possible?
Now that we are on the verge of creating synthetic life, we are forced to reflect more deeply on the meaning of our own. The synthesis ending may be a rather cheesy sci-fi cop-out (the description given is rather silly), but Bioware clearly gets this right.
The evolutionary algorithm is to continually surpass ourselves - to become more adaptable than our ancestors were, and this is echoed everywhere, from cultures, to martial arts, to science, and of course in biology generally. There is a non-empty intersection of the hunger for power over ourselves and our circumstances, and the compassionate desire we have to help others achieve the same - its within this self-correcting mechanism that our future (if we make it) lies. There should be no denying at this point that transcending our biology is part of that journey, but I also have a tough time imagining the peaceful ending envisioned here is achievable. Perhaps with better memories though, and the fundamental alteration of some of our present constraints, we could finally learn some of the lessons that have been so difficult to learn.
ConQuiX i truely thought that the ending was AMAZING.
it made so much sence and the fact it made me think about it even after finishing the game is an accomplishment of its own.
to be honest, after all these years, the best ending i got was alt+f4 the moment the god child starts talking.
I finished Mass Effect 3 for the first time since its release and I have to say the extended cuts really helped the endings. There's actual context and explanations and makes your choice more than just a blue, red, or green explosion. I actually enjoyed the endings this time around. It brought resolution with some of the characters like a snap shot of Wrex with his child, Samara with her daughter, the Quarians rebuilding, etc. besides the StarChild bullshit and war assets not playing a major role, I really liked this game and the trilogy as a whole.
The 4th ending should change based on your war assets... Its a really shitty ending
Destroy ending all the way. Fuck what you think.
true!
I mean, it's the only one where you survive and stay you, so, fair point. It's not the most noble way to go; you leave the future of the galaxy uncertain as opposed to acting as a guardian or creating everlasting peace between all species, but the ending where you survive sets up the series for another sequel.
+Rudy Poirier but that us what the protheans did.... choose for others.
besides that kid is lying. ... hes trying to indoctrinate you.
he could be lying to u .
I think the reapers is lying to sheperd.... they have been showing us repeatedly examples of this throughout the game... so is plausible than the reepers are trying to prevebt him from chossing to destroy him by playing on his emotional.
why should he trust the ai logic .....
There will not be sequel to the events of Mass Effect 3. Shepards story ended accept your fate, which ever you chose.. ;)
The biggest problem with the control ending is that while it might 'save' the most people, it goes 100% against the character of Shepard, in almost every way you can play Shepard. Shepard is not a control freak. Shepard is not interested in playing God - in fact Shepard spends the vast majority of ME fighting against authority figures.
Yet Shepard is still a soldier...
He did not ascend to godhood. Instead, he continued in the path he had already trodden, but on a grater scale-guarding all races. In doing so, he did not impose his existential paradigm as in a "synthesis" nor did he annihilate the synthetics. For the very fabric of the game is imbued with the thought that: what is capable thinking - essentially lives, and thus possesses the intrinsic right to exist. It is a reflection on the nature of existence, a contemplation of what it means to live, and an acknowledgment of the profound connection between thought and being. Here, scale and form are transcended in favor of a more universal understanding of life, one that honors the complexity and sanctity of all sentient existence, artificial or organic.
Also I dislike the concept of "synthesis," as it represents an utopia, which is a "stillborn child." Make equal everyone is to kill the essence of development, to extinguish the spark that sustains diversity and growth. IMHO
I want a destroy ending where EDI and some of the Geth live. Shepherd should have a chance of surviving with any option in my opinion.
It would have been so much more rewarding if the catalyst simply worked as a superweapon and could be directed at whatever you as the player wanted - we could see different futures play out for the galaxy depending on the choices that were made during the previous games.
Install this: www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/265
It's a happy ending mod that reconfigures the destroy ending. Pc only. If you're playing on console, then I can't help you.
The last ending is dark and cruel. All that pain, all those deaths, killings, tortures, and brutal and bloody war...just to let the cycle continue? All of that was for nothing
+Cullen Dittmar Just like the Protheans. Worse part it fits more with the lore than the other three.
All was for nothing? All the Galaxy united like never before to fight a common foe? Piece between 2 or more races which seemed unthinkable? Message to the next generation that "the Catalyst" is another Reaper's ruse? Nooooo, we just gotta believe Reaper-bullshit and take HIS choices for a face value!
Everything Turns Green Ending.
Green is grass. Red is blood))
All nostalgia when I look back at all this, it makes me happy.... The first time I played mass effect 3, I chose the end of "destruction" because I didn't trust the Catalyst, I don't know why... just my instinct telling me that, and then, I wanted to honor the memory Admiral Anderson . And then, I didn't even know that my Shepard could be alive by choosing this end! I was happy at the end, but not happy for IDA, I love this character.
I knew a friend who had also played this game and he had not made the same decision as me, he had made the end "Synthesis". He said it was an end where everyone could be at peace. He's not really wrong, but I still prefer the end of the destruction (still not trusting the Catalyst).
Have a good day to you.
Smart choice. Have you noticed the eyes of Shepard on the other 2 endings? You may have already heard of it, but Shepard's eyes turn into the same color and pattern as the indoctrinated illusive man. Coincidence? I think not.
This game would have been made a damn good movie.
I wish it could. The only problem I see is all of the possible choices. To get them all, there would be so many movies, and it would take more than a lifetime to watch them all.
well, you're right. But my thinking is more like:
The background story is great, the characters, the soundtrack.... .
Sometimes it seems so easy for game industry to come up with great stuff like this, while movies keep on disappointing year after year. Well, not all of them but to many
already been rumors of a movie being made, just saying.
Speaking about movies, tell me: am i the only who this story better than the story of any sci-fi movies? :)
Too much material for movies. I'd make this into a show on Netlfix or something. ME1, ME2, ME3 would be seasons 1, 2, and 3 respectively. Each mission can be its own episode. Commander Shepard will be a unique combination of Renegade and Paragon.
8:40
"Your corporeal Form will be dissolved, but your thoughts and even your memories will continue. You will no longer be organic."
So what the Collectors tried in Mass Effect 2.
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"Your organic energy, the essence of who and what you are, will be broken down and then dispersed."
So like Husks? I'll be broken down and merged with machines creating "a new life Form?"
The sad thing is, I can see how the devs saw this, looking upon the 3 endings as a hierarchy of success.
With destruction being the lowest and synthesis being the highest, since you only get synthesis with a rather high war assets count. But at the same time they undermine half the games messege. It's so sad that Drew Karpyshyn couldn't finish his work on Mass Effect...
I loved Mass Effect, but sadly, this is one of the worst endings in the history of story telling (please note I said one of) Mass Effect's ending is not terrible because of the way it turned out. It is terrible because so many who played it invested themselves in the characters, the fictional people of this great universe brought to life by talented writers, artists, and programmers; yet in the end, all we are left with is not a feeling of fond memories of the characters we met and places we visited during out stay, but instead we are left with a lack of closure, leaving us wondering where they all went.
+John Wreed to me they're not bad endings, but I do WHOLLY agree w/you in that after getting so much energy invested in make us care and love for the characters the endings left them too much on the wind (though it would have benn a master stroke if the did webisodes of their history after ME3 as an introduction to new ME games)
Mass Effect 2 set the bar too high
+John Wreed I miss tali :(
I really liked Tali, always took her and Garrus with me the most.
Tried out lots of combinations of the companions but always kept returning to "Team Dextro".
I especially thought her "I have a shotgun" comment to Garrus' jokes was one of the funnier bits of dialogue in the series.
John Wreed i am new to mass effect and i cant find a lot of these dialogues lol
So beautiful, I almost cried again.
I fully understood all this before the extended cut.
Glad i was one of the lucky ones that had a perfect experience with the Mass Effect Trilogy
Something that always bugged me about the endings is that none of the ways you interact with the catalyst make sense as ways to activate it. Control: how would electricuting yourself give you control over the reapers? Synthesis: why would Shepard be an important component for a galaxy wide nanomachine upgrade? Destroy: why would shooting a thick and important looking power conduit do anything other than break the catalyst? Refuse/Shoot the hologram: this one makes the most sense, the reapers even say "I am the catalyst", refusing to go along with their bullshit leads to them dropping the act, shutting it all down and then the cycle continues.I think the purpose behind the "choice" was to understand Shepard a bit better and that the only outcome is really just the catalyst shutting down and the cycle continuing. The only difference your decision makes is whether you're the one who breaks it, either by: causing a short(Control), clogging up the emitter with your corpse(Synthesis) or shooting it(Destroy). Refuse is the true ending. Edit: don't judge me for this wall of text, youtube won't let me clean it up and it just gets worse every time I try.
"... the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, the courage to change the things we can, and the wisdom to know the difference."
I think destruction is the best ending. The whole point is to liberate the galaxy from the reapers, which you can only do this way.
Choosing control is like trying to tame a shark, someone's gonna end up dead, in this case the whole galaxy.
Synthesys results in an unnatural peak of evolution (in my opinion) and also the reapers survive too.
Defiance is just giving up, passing the choice to the next cycle, and the reapers also survive.
Also I'd like to point out that the reapers are neither good nor evil. They're a means to an end, tools for the AI created by an ancient race (the Leviathans) with one single purpose: the preservation of organic life. The motive behind this was that they assumed, and exprerienced in many cases that "lesser" species build synthetics which then destroyed them. They concluded that machines necessarily will rebel against they creators and ultimately wipe out all organic life. To prevent this they created said Intelligence to find a solution to this, which it did: the Reapers. This AI then used them to create the Citadel and the mass relays to direct the way of evolution in the galaxy, to control it and this way sustain organic life. Doing this by wiping out all organics and synthetics at a certain level of evolution and leaving primitive species alone, this way eventually preventing machines from eliminating all organic life. "The galaxy became an experiment, evolution it's tool."
And the solution works! Organic life is "saved" over and over again.
BUT, the AI's purpose is built on the false assumption that organics and synthetics will necessarily war with each other, which is just not true. That you can prove by making peace between the geth and quarians. Peace is possible between the two.
Yes, with destruction the geth perish, all synthetics just vanish, but they will be created again and now with the knowledge that peace is possible and in a galaxy free of the Reapers and the AI's false "solution".
How did u get the game to show wat would happen when pick any of the 3 endings
Yoi wait for after the credits
London was still standing, when I choosed destroy, just I died.
I always go for the Control Ending because it was a smart thing to do.
Seems like Mass Effect 3's ending suffers from the writers trying to jam in thematic elements of 2003 Battlestar Galactica complex cycle of man vs. machine ethical dilemma and Babylon 5's concept of "god-like" species cultivating lesser species through their own cycle of war and peace.
apparently destroy ending is the good ending as shepard is still alive
nahh, ending the cycle and becoming the legend throughout the whole galaxy is the good ending. You're alive inside the synthetics anyway.
Tugsbilig Battulga You destroy the cycle anyway with the destroy ending.
spikeman7fz he said "Soon, your children will create synthetics and chaos will come back.". And I think it was the only reason why i didn't choose the destroy ending.
Tugsbilig Battulga Yeah, but the reapers are dead, the cycle is over. But the catalyst warns you that your children will create synthetics and those synthetics will destroy life without the Reapers to stop them.
Tugsbilig Battulga I find the catalyst to be bullshitting you because the galaxy would be more open to peace with sythetics, and who is it to know the future? It also said you would die from the wave, but surprise you live plus if the mass relays can be rebuilt, than I am sure the geth could be reactivated, and it shows the galaxy free from the reapers presence :)
When I played Kaiden fell on Virmire staying behind, everyone survived the Suicide Mission, Thane died from his wounds saving the Salarian Councillor, Mordin died fixing the cure, everyone in the third game besides them that could survive did, I get every single race to give their fleets, and then I chose the Synthesis ending. Best possible ending achieved.
Realistically, all endings seems viable in their own way. They each have their own pros and cons.
Destroy (red): To destroy the Reapers will ensure that the cycle will end and all of the races can continue as is uninhibited. While nothing really happens besides the Reapers getting destroyed, it gives all other races their own freedoms. This can be good and bad all at the same time. The hope is that everyone will realize how strong everyone is if we work together, but that could also have someone go independent and that could cause problems, ie: war, diplomatic problems/trade, failing governments, etc. The reason I thinks its good is because everyone should have their own choice, whether it be bad or good, everyone has that choice. If someone is too destroy themselves, let them.
Control (blue): Controlling the Reapers sends Shepard into an ascended state to control all Reapers. Now I'm not sure completely on how this works, it's a toss up for me. It's great that Shepard can control the Reapers and rebuild, protect, and control. A guardian one would say. This can go all wrong if Shepard turns "evil" in a sense. I don't know if that's possible, but if it is, it will just be a cycle all over again, same situation as before.
Synthesis (green): This brings a unique ending to the table. It completely gives a jump in evolution like non could even imagine happening soon or at any point. Finally Synthetics and Organics can co-exist together as one being. This gives both sides benefits. Organics can the intelligence and "AI" like mechanics such as communicating to one another without verbal language. Synthetics gain emotions and human like qualities, such as independence. While this moves everyone forward by an untold bound, is it really right to force it upon everyone? It basically makes you god. Do you have that right?
So really It's a difficult decision for me when it comes down to it. It's got pros and cons for all possible endings. There really is no "perfect" ending. No utopia, eternal peace in my mind.
When you combine reaper space magic and humanity/organics, you don't get synthesis. You get husks, Banshees, Cannibals, Marauders, Harvesters, Brutes, Ravagers, etc. Synthesis is not a means to transcendence.
All four endings are incredible, actually.
Each gave me the shivers so I guess I can consider that an ending well made.
I've just finished the trilogy for the third time. I fell sad and empty inside, like nothing else can make me feel. I don't think there will be anything as intense and well written as Mass Effect ever...
Reapers preserve organic life in reaper form while leaving those so hopelessly stupid species who don't know how to create synthesis alive, so the cycle of life continues instead of just everyone dying
I had hopes all the way through ME3 that it would have had a similar ending to ME2 but in a bigger war strategy scale. As I built up war assets and pulled together all the various races, I imagined that it was like choosing upgrades in the Normandy in ME2 and getting the teams loyalty. I thought I would see the battle played out, witness as my lack of war assets in one area caused brutal failure and loss of life while their presence in another managed to push back the Reaper forces and save civilisations.
I had hoped for an epic stand off at the end, an "us against them" that would result in varying degrees of victory, depending on the choices you had made. If you did well, you managed to save most species while winning the war. If you were not so prepared, you might gain a win but at the loss of so many it could hardly be classed a victory. If you choose poorly or barely prepared, you lost, the cycle continues and all you fought for is forgotten.
Instead, it was this. A multiple choice where almost everything you've worked for beforehand means little to nothing at the end. I enjoy playing through the ME series but I now just close down my game after the Illusive Man. It's a small kindness I give to my poor, bruised heart.
"Any path that will hurt innocent people (EDI and the geth) will never lead to the greater good. In fact its nothing but a dead end, and if your willing to follow that path what does it say about you."
Not my words, but my opinion of what is the best path and thats what mass effect is all about: letting every player go in whatever path they want.
P.S. If you know where I got that quote from then 👆 (only those who understand will get it)
Machines aren't people though.
"One more story..."
The chills. The CHILLS.
Why do you see Anderson shooting When you have a vision of the destroy option? Why does the catalyst take on a deep reaper voice when you decide to continue the cycle? Why is there sinister music playing if you choose control? Synthesis is basically what the reapers have always wanted. Destroy seems like the only option in my eyes. Even though the synthesis option seems to bring on a golden age in the galaxy it seems to come at the cost of being an individual as it says you take on a hive mind. After the no choice ending you still get the stargazer ending with the woman saying that they eventually won in the next cycle. However you look at it, all three games ended up being fantastic and this is the only bad part. Will likely pick up andromeda if it ever makes it out
you see anderson because that's what he wanted, sinister music for control because that's what the illusive man "the bad guys" wanted
I'm sorry Perfect ending Control is the most supper ending by far
Organic's and Synthetic live in peace like the green ending but all of them are not the same
Everyone is still and individual
The reapers will keep peace through Shepard and will rebuild relays and so on
By far the most supper there is a disadvantage for the other ending apart from control
Destroy ending is the best - makes the most sense
The goal from the beginning was to defeat and end the reaper threat
Control is giving in to the illusive man in his weakness while indoctrinated and proving he was right all along. And fuck synthesis - yep I'll just dump shit on all lifeforms' free will and turn them into organic synthetic hybrids just coz I want.
I'm satisfied with All endings, including the Originals. Thanks Bioware for good times.
***** Said no one ever
I did.
***** The originals weren't actually endings so much as cliffhangers. The extended cut shouldn't even be called that. It is the actual realisation of the endings we were promised in the base game. But, with that in mind, yes all the endings made sense. It is too deep and satisfying a game to have a bog standard happy ending. This complex and beautiful series of endings worked so well because you finally get a chance to change the course of the rest of the galaxy in a way you see fit.
I'm wondering what in stored for part 4. I'm excited.
***** By any chance, do you like Foundation more than any other scifi book? Because it seems like you enjoy very high-concept stuff with little care for character arcs and emotional moments. :) (Not that there isn't a place for high-concept storytelling, but it's not consistent with the rest of ME and it was reasonable to expect more emotional notes in the ending!)
In the Destroy/Control end the Normandy crash lands. Mass Effect 4 can start with their rescue.
I think the best ending is based on how you see the game. I personally like the Control ending. It suggests that the Illusive Man was right, but he was too indoctrinated to actually take the correct path of Control. I see the Synthesis ending as a really interesting "big headed" sci-fi ending... and that you cause every race to evolve into a new form.... all able to move on to the next age of things...
I really dislike the destroy ending.... as you destroy the Geth (who I helped to make peace with the Quarians) and even worse, you kill EDI!
That's just my take on the endings. Really love Mass Effect, though I wish 3 was as good as 2.
The "fail" ending really gets to me as well... as Liara becomes the beacon for some future hero just like the one you found at the end of Mass Effect 1. Again, feeling like the doomed circle of some great, old science fiction films.
I 100% agree
Not sure about u I wanted peace between organic so and synthetics without changing THIER DNA and what makes them different
Control does this everyone lives in peace and the way peace is achieved is the reapers also Shepard may be dead but nothing stops him from telling the reapers to build him and EDI type body
Also if u didn't notice the Illusive man changed weirdly in his final scene kinda like how Shepard changes while taking control makes me think the Illusive man almost did that
For me, the reasonable ending is to Destroy the Reapers OR Control them, both ending the Shepard not died.....when you destroy the reapers, Shepard survive in the end of the ending scene....(well, a dogtag of N7.....and suddenly someone breath and unfortunately EDI will die) and if Shepard control the reapers......maybe there is a way so we can use robot body just like EDI, hell.....use Heavy Mech body if needed to.
Everytime I replay this game, I say to myself that I'll chose a different ending. But then the story happens. And the feels. I still always end up chosing Destroy. Fuck you Reapers. Sorry synthetics.
I wish there was a version of destroy ending where if you had like 99% of the war assets the scientists are able to make it only target the Reapers specifically. Other beings may have reaper code in them, depending how you play, but it's not all they comprise from, so technically it should be possible to tell them apart from the reapers.
I usually go with Destroy, because it very definitively ends the Reapers's cycle.
Problem is the Geth and EDI are destroyed. Worse yet, you're probably screwing over the Quarians very very badly if they are being aided by the Geth in adapting to their home planet. And if Shepard counts as synthetic, because of his cybernetics that are keeping him standing, and would take damage, then wouldn't the Quarian suits technically get damaged as well? They're an integral part of them, vital to their survival, even on their own planet, even in their home-flotilla. Also, if Shepard lives, and the Normandy crew gets back to him, what happens when they find out he made the conscious choice of essentially killing EDI and the Geth (especially if peace is brokered with the Quarians) even when Shepard is fully aware of that consequence.
Synthesis seems great because, besides Shepard, everyone relevant to the story survives and everyone seems very buddy buddy.
Problem is it feels very brain-washy to me. Everyone is just magically getting along all of a sudden? When it took you curing the damned Genophage and ending a centuries-old war for some of the assholes to help you fight the thing that's gearing to wipe them all out anyway!?
Besides that, it seems wrong that you sort of casually change the basic core of every living being, synthetic and organic alike, whether they like it or not. Seems like there's bound to be some amount of internal resistance to the whole thing. And what if the Reaper's reasoning is shared through whatever link is established and everyone decides it's perfectly reasonable for a portion of the galaxy's population to voluntarily off itself every once in a while, so all the rest can continue in better comfort?
Control seems like the greatest alternative and a sort of middle ground. The Geth and EDI survive, but no one's existence gets re-written, except the Reapers who are now controlled by whatever Shepard becomes.
Problem is, it's not really Shepard, judging from how it refers to Shepard in the third person. It seems like an elevated cosmic being or something that is based on who Shepard was. That speech can sound very menacing if you think about it a certain way.
All who oppose what "Shepard" wants to protect will get destroyed. Who is being protected though? Life in the galaxy? All the races? What if they turn on each other, and "Shepard" decides one or several of them is a larger threat or the instigator/s? Do they get wiped out? Do they only get subdued? What if they rise up to attack the Reapers, and by extension "Shepard", for supressing them? Does "Shepard" fight back, because if the protector is gone life cannot continue for long?
And what is considered a threat? Is it killing each other? Or challenging another species' status in the galaxy? What about challenging "Shepard" and the Reapers, as pointed above?
And what happens when "Shepard", in the eternity they'll spend controlling the Reapers, ends up coming to the same conclusion that in order to preserve life, that same life needs to be periodically purged?
This ending becomes the most problematic of all in the long run, especially considering Shepard's incredibly strong will and penchant to completely decimate every opponent, which I imagine would in some way be ingrained into the cosmic version of them. Not to mention the fact "Shepard" would know about the crucible and its capabilities, and would undoubtedly be perfectly capable of getting rid of it.
.... this is longer than some essays I've had to write. Sorry.
i never finished mass effect 3 cuz i realized i had to scan all the planets and do multiplayer in order to get a full army, so i stopped before the last mission. Hearing how the endings were did not make me too keen to finish anyway. But now finally watching all the endings, i dont think it was that bad. each ending has its good and bad and leaves a bittersweet taste. destroy ending is kinda fucked up with all synthetics we knew dying and ensuring that we will have chaos again, but it had a more emotional impact and shephard breathing was kinda cool. Controlling synthetics is the most logical choice but it didnt leave much for emotional closure. Combining synthetics was an interesting idea and seems nice for the future but seemed kinda half-assed by just adding green on everyone. The refusal part i actually liked the most, gave huge emotional impact, the decision stood on more solid principles though it is still controversial, and the ending was the most interesting/unique even though its kind of a punch to the face when you realize all the effort youve made in the past three games resulted with you stopping at the finish line and letting all your friends die. Could the endings have been more detailed in discussing each characters' ends? most definetely. but all in all, endings werent THAT bad.
Dexter series finale was THAT bad. these endings were.. ehh
kingraj333 the concept of the ending isnt that bad. the disappointing for the ending to me is how they implement the it, changing the color of the beam and call it different isnt really that much different.
yes in regards to the cutscenes, they pretty much just reused them for each ending and added a different color to it. Thats pretty lazy. but that wasn't exactly disappointing for me as i wasnt really looking for variety in the endings, just closure would be nice.
kingraj333 No. You can have over the max EMS to achieve a perfect ending without having to play multiplayer. That's bullshit. Not wanting to scan planets is lazy as hell. What a lame excuse.
N7 AllianceEarth lol calm down no need to get angry, i was already kinda getting bored with the game and had other things to do. nd scanning planets is boring as hell especially when there are so many. and like i said, hearing about how the ending sucked ddnt make me keen on doing tedious work. its just my choice man.
kingraj333 The scanning minigame in ME3 is fast and a lot more interesting in than it was in ME2 where it was effectively just a timesink. It's like finding the optional missions in ME2- you follow the pointer and you only have to probe once. Except you don't have to pay for probes in ME3. If you get stuck with avoiding reapers in a system just remember when you exit a system to the cluster map, you will reappear exactly opposite to where you exited, so you can use this to snag items where a reaper starts right nearby. Those two things are really all you need to know. You should also largely not need to buy fuel as most systems with war assets also have bonus fuel in them- just save the bonus fuel from the system with the relay until last. The ending is worth experiencing (but not as good as you would have expected given the rest of the series) IMO, it's just very intellectual, unlike the rest of the series. If that's not your bag then I guess sure, go ahead and never finish, lol.
If you listen very closely, there are two other voices when the child speaks. These are the voices of both male and female Shepard
I Just finished today this great game got my synthesis ending hanged out with liara and what i did along the whole trilogy was save all races and People i could. I saved the rachni queen saved the krogans finished the fight between geth and quarians and. For me it was the best ending i could get for the way i played. Saved sinthetics and organics. This game and heavy Rain have been the only ones that have made me go deep in my feelings i cried i hated i laughed. Now ill replay it
I love choice and free will.
right, destroy synthetics, red
left, control the Reapers, blue
center, synthesis (the best), green
11:26 Intro. ends & choice 1 is made, right
23:12 Choice 1's showing ends & choice 2 is made, left
33:43 Choice 2's showing ends & choice 3 is made, center
44:40 Choice 3's showing ends & choice 4 is introduced
With Synthesis, its all fun and games till someone starts hacking
I used the technology to destroy the technology
I just finished the game today. Whole trilogy in fact. Oh dear, what a wild ride that was. Mass Effect trilogy isn't just a series of games. It's one of the most beatiful, painful, satisfying and hopeless experiences I've ever had. All in the same time. All those feelings are present in these three great titles and every single one of them. After I was done with the Reapers, after I watched the aftermath of my actions, I just felt hollow.
Realising that all those awesome characters I was bonding with the last three weeks of playing, are leaving. There will be no more Tali, Garrus, Mordin, Joker, Liara... I can replay the games but... It really felt like losing an actual friend. I was in tears more than once throughout this playthrough. I was really immersed in the character of Lieutenant Commander Chris Shepard and to realise that I will never again have an opportunity to talk about something new with my crew...
I want to build a house with Tali, go drink with Garrus, listen to Jokers witty remarks until the end of times. And I will not be able to do any of that.
Replaying the trilogy doesn't do it. It will still be a lot of fun and feels but I just want more than what I already got from these games. I will get over this feeling in a few days, but damn... I will always love original Mass Effect series.
And the overwhelming sadness in the ending where Shepard dies... I'm just so sad for Tali...
These endings weren’t the main ones planned for the series. There are a bunch of reasons why the story changed, development hell, writers leaving, the release rush and even leaks.
The ending was going to involve the spread of Dark Energy, a force used in mass effect fields and biotic powers that could ultimately destroy everything. The story went that the goal of the Reapers was to find a way to stop the spread of Dark Energy, which is why every 50,000 years they would turn an entire species into Reapers to slow its spread.
It was a super interesting concept that I didn’t really flush out here but this is a link to an old reddit post that explains it more in depth. Far more interesting and way more hints to this ending in the previous games.
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/r7wze/the_original_ending_to_mass_effect_3/
Even this later on after the game's release, the ending still wreaks of terrible tropes, and simply doesn't make sense. It's pretty sad.
+Nomi Yoko there is like 6 endings....
How does it not make sense?
+Zeen0x because that's one damned dumb ultimate intelligence A.I. You're an anomaly. You throw everything out of whack. I just don't know what to do about you but let you choose our destiny. Oh, wait. I forgot I have giant robot squids straight of of a Lovecraft robo cliche fetish and you're really small and squishy. SQUISH. Anomaly of Shepherd solved.
Or, if we look past the ease with which realistically an entity with a fleet of giant robot Ktullu's could just smash a human like a bug and put that on the back burner. Then why when you crash land do you send out the cripple guy with brittle bones first to check the area? Seriously? Nobody wanted to make sure there wasn't a trip hazard?
+Fektthis In English please
+Zeen0x Because you're told for 3 games that what you do matters and the ending will be a reflection of your past actions, but then in the last 15 minutes of the game harry potter shows up, disguised as the central control AI, gives you his wand and tells you, "wave high, center or low to make this mess go away", and you say "but that goes against all that was previously established" harry answers "wave it or I'll wave it for you and destroy it all".
For me, I like the "Everything turns green" ending.
Since its the last we'll see of Shepard, so might as well let her die, for the good of the galaxy.
I'll just call this, the "Singularity Evolution". eh!
Red ending: Fuck you, fuck the Reapers, fuck the Crucible, fuck this thing I'm shooting at.
Blue ending: A S C E N D E D
Green ending: Everyone is green.
edi had emotions in the synthesis ending
This was cut really well. Thank you.
now thats a proper tali's face! 41:20
that last line "i fight for freedom" bit was probably one of the most amazing game lines in the world and i think that every self aware being could look at this and shed a tear for the fallen
I never played before the extended cut and i have very little issues with the endings.
+Scott “Ivorystate” Christiansen Before the extended cut there was not much of a narration. You had one or two cut scenes how the battles ended (reapers destroyed, reapers leave, reapers 'wake up') three different colors of explosions and then some Normandy crash where people get out and look at the sky. Bam. Bye.
the Synthesis ending remind me about Solas the Dread Wolf in Dragon Age III Trespasser
It was like walking through a world of tranquil
I always preferred the Symbiotic ending the most in my playthrough's, taking control of the reapers seem'd like overkill and could end up being a case of power corrupts and the reapers are the ultimate power, and the one destroying them just seem'd wrong since we had Legion and EDI who would also die in the process.
The last ending that was shown just seem'd wrong to pass the buck to the next cycle or worse.
But the symbiotic choice seems like the only way to go since it would also preserve history the knowledge the reapers gained through out the cycles and cultures they absorbed, is it a big change and would people be able to accept it no idea but the outcome would be preffered over total annihilation and the loss of life compared to the merge of organic and synthetic.
I totally agree! If they simply destroyed the reapers, there would be a significant chance that either synthetics or a single organic race would destroy everything. The cycle would continue and evil will most definitely prevail.
If Shepard controlled the reapers, either Shepard or the Reapers he controls can easily become corrupted and might continue to kill off every organism, or the civilizations Shepard sore to protect might rise up against him and destroy him or force him to take drastic measure. Plus the civilizations would either live in constant fear of Shepard or if they defeat Shepard, the civilization's outcome would be the same as if Shepard destroyed the Reapers in the first place.
The Symbiotic ending allows the preservation of history and the ability to keep the unity of all civilizations to live in peace. The flow and sharing of knowledge and the power to allow other beings to decide for themselves provides the best option for the future of the universe. Unfortunately, evil could still prevail but the probability of evil prevailing is dramatically reduced. In conclusion, there would be more chances of good coming out of choosing this path than good in the other paths.
I know...I'm a total nerd. Best...game...ever!
I think this trilogy should be made into a movie, it'd be a damn epic one! :)
I think the same too, but you know movie made from video games. They always fail.
they tried.
12:45 *How could you kill that face?!*
+Sean White She's just a synth.
+BushidoEffect3 That's racist.
+Jani SIr Check your Synthetic privilege.
+BushidoEffect3 that u would fuck
Don't lie haha
@@BushidoEffect3 And you're just a meatbag.
What makes me wonder is the catalyst itself. Shepard sees it as a kid, but no one ever mentioned how it looks like in it's real form. And as we know- catalyst is older than humanity by a few milion years.
I think it's different for everyone. As we know, Shepard felt not only guilty, but responsible for kids death. Hell- he had nightmares about him. Do you see where this is going?
Contrary to many people, I think the ending is genius. Here's why:
Imagine if this situation was real life (which turns out to be the purpose of video games: a simulation), what decision would you make? Reading the comments, it clearly shows how smart the writers were: they created a public debate about morality & the question of existence. Yes, it was nice for them to do the Extended Cut DLC, and it brought some visual excitement and sentimental closure. But a true fan didn't need this. They would understand the intricate issues that lay on today's society. Also, the formation of the ending was very bright as well. Give the minimum effort throughout the story, and you will be forced to do things in life. A bit, say, like not giving effort in anything relating to school and hobbies, and resulting in having no choice other than low-paying jobs. Dedicate effort and time into processing the most you can to gain knowledge and skills, and you will be able to make choices based on what you believe and want. And similar to the game, often you will have a very important once-in-a-lifetime decision that you will have to make; one that will change your future forever. It is very sad that some (and quite a lot, as a matter of fact) people cannot see beyond the scope of what lays in front of you, or in other words, the bigger picture. They are stuck in a very simplistic, standard, and narrow way of thinking.
No, the endings were lazy. You give Bioware too much credit.
It just felt rushed but otherwise it’s not as bad as people say. But it could have been so much better.
i do remember the shitstorm that kept going on about me3's endings. but there is reason. there is so much to it andit did cost me years of trying to understand. i think i do by now. it is perfect.it just is. theres just too many of us unable to even try to understand.
Everyone hating on BioWare just because of the ending of ME3 and the ME trilogy. I thought it was sad to see the game end but I have heard this line many times
"It's the journey, not the destination"
I wouldn't give BioWare one more chance, I would give them as many chances so long as I am alive (Wouldn't say the same about Shep)
The ending(s) were criticized, because there wasn't much player choice in it. Just one out of three and that's it, unlike in ME2, where the could be many different endings, due to the chance of squadmates getting killed on the Suicide Mission.
Synthesis was the best ending if you chose to save the geth over the Quarians or made both of them set aside their differences. This is because in the control ending, Shepard's essence controls all synthetics, geth and reaper alike, destroying any individualality in self aware Synthetics. The Destroy ending kills all synthetics, even good ones like Legion and Edi. Synthesis allows the people of the Mass Effect Galaxy access to nearly 4 million years of cultures and their technologies. The technology leap would be incomprehensible to us. It would be like if we went from being cavemen to a star wars level empire in a very short amount of time and this way, each species is still its own. The Krogan can rebuild regardless of your previous decisions and there is a united galaxy.
My ending killed every living thing in the galaxy :D lol
Thats the way to go bro :D, lmao xD
Thanks for this FluffyQuack. I never got any of the DLC's for this game. Nice to know of what there was.
12:30 to 23:12 . THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL F-ING CLOSURE EA AND BIOWARE. THAT'S CLOSURE
Just finished the game right now,but happy to see these extended cut DLV version,because there were not on the normal version 360xbox played on my Xbox ONE S..definitively my fav sci-fi adventure with Gears of Wars,greetings from France from a 49 years old gamers !
The endings really do suck... why? Because of how unsatisfying they are. What happens to the Korgan after the war? That's kinda a big issue here seeing as no matter what happens, the Korgan were dead set on starting another war. Even if Wrex is in charge, I'm 100% certain that a civil war would've broken out on their home planet. (If Biowear were smart, this could've been DLC)
People say the endings were great when in reality, EA didn't give Biowear enough time to properly end the game. Hell, I heard that they originally had the Reapers killing organics due the fact that they kept discovering biotics and the use of their new powers was slowly destroying the universe. That would've been a nice twist.
Also, the other endings pretty much GO AGAINST THE WHOLE FEEL OF THE GAME. Never once were we introduced to the idea that combine organic and synthetic DNA was possible in a harmless way. And honestly, they don't look that much different. Everyone's just GREEN... That's kinda underwhelming...
At least with control, we had more of an idea that it could be done with the Illusive Man and his crazed obsession with the Reapers, but honestly it goes against what Shepard's been trying to do since the start. Never once did Shepard even seems remotely interested in controlling the Reapers, not even if you did renegade.
It's sad too, because this game was really, really good... too bad it has one of the worst endings ever. I pick destroy every time because at least I know Starchild and the Reapers are history.
i hate you mass effect you took my one joy away and watching this makes me cry i wish you could still play as sheperd in the 4 one but no they have to kill the sreies!*balling my eyes out*