Yeah, this is definitely one of the harder concepts. Let's say your cycle is A->B->C and your interchange switches A and C, so B is the piece outside the interchange. Your insertion also inserts B into A's spot. Since B needs to go to C first (the cycle is A->B->C), you need to interchange first (this brings C into A's spot) so that you can correctly insert B into C. Example: Setup: L' D' L U L' D L U' Case: UBL -> LDB -> UFL Interchange: U Insertion: L' D' L Discussion: The interchange puts UFL into UBL's spot, and the insertion inserts LDB into UBL's spot. LDB is the piece outside the interchange and it needs to go to UFL first (the cycle is UBL->LDB->UFL). Thus, we need to interchange first (bringing UFL into UBL's spot) so that we can correctly insert LDB. Solution: [U, L' D' L] note: it would be faster to do a setup move like [U : [U, R D' R']] The practice doc has some more examples.
@@timothygoh-4bld649 Or if you do it the other way and realize that it's wrong while you're doing it, you can just repeat the same moves and it will work the second time around. Right Tim?
@@tusharjamwal He didn't answer so I will do that. I don't know 3style yet but I can do FMC and know that this correct. And for an example: A-Perm if you are doing an Aa perm but it was an Ab, you will end up with Aa.
Haven't watched this yet but I will soon. Noah's tutorial was so confusing when I watched it and demotivated me to learn 3-style, but I hope this one is a lot more comprehensive
I don't use 3-Style yet but I understand commutators and am learning Oroczo as a beginner's method for 3/4BLD because I can and it is a fun difficult challenge. The visual aids in this tutorial makes it exceptional. You also speak well and are a great teacher. Please continue making these tutorials. This first video is absolutely amazing.
This tutorial was extremely helpful! After watching Noah's tutorial I learnt how to do 3-Style, but I just didn't know whether to do interchange or insertion first. This video explained that perfectly! Thanks
honestly this is how I learnt to solve the cube many years ago. This is the concept that the algorithms A perm and Allan (3 edge cycle) use. The other early algorithms (Sune and Niklas) are based on a similar concept. A combination of different interchanges and insertions which are simple on their own. I think Lars Petrus' website still has these algorithms as the beginner method. The way you explained it was very refreshing and I think I will attempt blind solving this way myself as well.
This is a fantastic tutorial. I've looked into tutorials for commutators before. This is the best one I've found so far. Thanks for all the work you put into this. I'll be studying it a lot.
Such kind of invaluable straight-to-the-point tutorial, conceptualizing the necessary & important Blindfold-Solving knowledge with clear and concise explanation, definitely facilitates the evolution of the understanding of (blindfold) cubing.
Thanks for making this very useful tutorial! It is interesting that although I havent learned 3 style before, I used the same conveyor belt analogy to help myself understand the I/S trick in M2 (which is quite similar to the concept of 3 style I guess?). But instead of swapping, I imagine the moves kind of push the original box towards the other direction, and undoing those move push it back to the original position. Along with the terminology, it really helps me understand 3 style more! I am currently working towards sub-2 with M2/OP, and will definitely come back for your whole series of 3 style tutorial when I got solid memo technique!
Im a complete noob at 3bld..just got my first success using m2/op yesterday..watched this video cuz it looks interesting and woahhh i already understand how 3 style comms works..great video man..THANKSS!!!
I've been waiting for this video so much time! Thank you for making this video! You are such a good UA-camr and you deserve many more subs! Keep the good quality vids! Your tutorials remind me of j perm's ones.
Thank you so much for putting all your effort into this amazing video.. It has certainly summed up all the things one needs to know to grasp the concept of 3 styles... This has made cubing community an easier and a better place I must say,... n yeah, its the best video about 3 style on UA-cam... Hats off to you...
I don’t know how, but I think I finally understand how to do the setup moves and doing the comms. Everything just clicked when I was doing an fmc attempt.
Concise and very understanding... I watched Noah's long tutorial. But this is awesome. Thanks a ton. I use m2/op. Wish to switch op corners to 3style now.
Reeeaally nice video! Hopefully it helps some people overcome the "I don't wanna learn so many /understand comms" barrier. I learned full 3-style at around 4 minutes, but never regretted it :D
Thanks a lot for all the explanations. After watching a lot of videos, I think I’m starting to understand, till now, almost everything. That’s the way I have a doubt in your last example about the notation: 16:45 The notation is good, but this one, I think, it is not the solution. Try with this one: [ F: [ U2, R’ D’ R ] ] = F U2 R’ D’ R U2 R’ D R F', according to the previous explanation in 10:54 One more time, thanks a lot.
Or, you can apply the wrong solution propose by Tim: twice, in order to arrive to the right solution, according to the commentary written above in the fixed commentary.
How do you know which piece goes where? Does the piece have to go to its correct spot first and then the others get solved? Edit: Does it matter what order the pieces get solved in?
in your practice sheet the 3rd. example for edges you say that "there is NOT a single move that will swap two stickers without disturbing the third" so what about F2 (setup U R’ F’ R S R’ F R S’ U’ possible solution with F2: [B L':[F2, U' S2 U]])? it's probably worse for execution and you wouldn't gain anything because with F2 there is no way to insert the 3rd without a setup but even if it's just semantics i'd say the text is wrong.
How to deal with the pieces when the cycle is : UBR-UBL. I mean when there are just one piece left other than the buffer. Or when a corner is flipped...
If you only have one target left, you have parity. You can do the UB/UL swap, M2 parity alg, or some other method. If you have a flipped corner, you can shoot to two sides with OP or use a twist alg
Are there advanced methods to 4BLD and 5BLD or is it just getting better at 3BLD and learning more advanced methods to that that will improve your big blind solves?
I’m done edges as of now. I’m optimizing them and making sure i can do them immediately and quickly. After i do this, how do u recommend i do corners. I made my own edge comms and I’ve already been optimizing for a little over a month. I’m done with 8 sets
I didn't understand the Interchange first or insertion first thing, how do you know which one is before the other ? Using the target's order?
Yeah, this is definitely one of the harder concepts. Let's say your cycle is A->B->C and your interchange switches A and C, so B is the piece outside the interchange. Your insertion also inserts B into A's spot. Since B needs to go to C first (the cycle is A->B->C), you need to interchange first (this brings C into A's spot) so that you can correctly insert B into C.
Example:
Setup: L' D' L U L' D L U'
Case: UBL -> LDB -> UFL
Interchange: U
Insertion: L' D' L
Discussion: The interchange puts UFL into UBL's spot, and the insertion inserts LDB into UBL's spot. LDB is the piece outside the interchange and it needs to go to UFL first (the cycle is UBL->LDB->UFL). Thus, we need to interchange first (bringing UFL into UBL's spot) so that we can correctly insert LDB.
Solution: [U, L' D' L]
note: it would be faster to do a setup move like [U : [U, R D' R']]
The practice doc has some more examples.
Thank you very much ! I understand better now!
@@timothygoh-4bld649 Or if you do it the other way and realize that it's wrong while you're doing it, you can just repeat the same moves and it will work the second time around. Right Tim?
@@ThibaudOU Salut!
@@tusharjamwal He didn't answer so I will do that. I don't know 3style yet but I can do FMC and know that this correct. And for an example: A-Perm if you are doing an Aa perm but it was an Ab, you will end up with Aa.
while I know 3-style already, just wanted to say thanks for making this :)
Oh , dude , do you know that today you brake wr ?
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Jack make a 3 style tutorial
please make 3 style tutorial
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This is "THE BEST" 3 style tutorial, ever!!!
Finally! A modern 3-style tutorial!
This is so good wtf
This is the best commutator concept tutorial I've seen so far. Great job!
Haven't watched this yet but I will soon. Noah's tutorial was so confusing when I watched it and demotivated me to learn 3-style, but I hope this one is a lot more comprehensive
I don't use 3-Style yet but I understand commutators and am learning Oroczo as a beginner's method for 3/4BLD because I can and it is a fun difficult challenge.
The visual aids in this tutorial makes it exceptional. You also speak well and are a great teacher. Please continue making these tutorials. This first video is absolutely amazing.
Best 3-style method video on UA-cam
You don't know how long I've been waiting for this!! Thank you so much! I've been looking for a good 3-style tutorial other than Noah authors
This tutorial was extremely helpful! After watching Noah's tutorial I learnt how to do 3-Style, but I just didn't know whether to do interchange or insertion first. This video explained that perfectly! Thanks
I just watched your video 4 years after you made it and it was very helpful. I appreciate the practice problems too. Thanks for making it
At first I didn't understand commutators that well from other tutorials, after seeing your tutorial understand them much better! :D
the absolute best commutator tutorial.
The explanation is so good. I hope i can understand this more while im learning 3 style
That is the best explanation of 3 style man...good job..😋😋thnx a lot for this ...it was really confusing before i saw ur video
This is the BEST of the BEST commutator tutorial!!! Thank you for your detailed and clear explanation, it's immensely helpful!
glad to finally see that someone made an update to Noah’s video
honestly this is how I learnt to solve the cube many years ago. This is the concept that the algorithms A perm and Allan (3 edge cycle) use.
The other early algorithms (Sune and Niklas) are based on a similar concept. A combination of different interchanges and insertions which are simple on their own. I think Lars Petrus' website still has these algorithms as the beginner method.
The way you explained it was very refreshing and I think I will attempt blind solving this way myself as well.
This is a fantastic tutorial. I've looked into tutorials for commutators before. This is the best one I've found so far. Thanks for all the work you put into this. I'll be studying it a lot.
Wow. This is the first tutorial that actually made me understand comms. Thanks!
Such kind of invaluable straight-to-the-point tutorial, conceptualizing the necessary & important Blindfold-Solving knowledge with clear and concise explanation, definitely facilitates the evolution of the understanding of (blindfold) cubing.
I fell asleep to Noah. This is perfect!
Thanks for making this very useful tutorial! It is interesting that although I havent learned 3 style before, I used the same conveyor belt analogy to help myself understand the I/S trick in M2 (which is quite similar to the concept of 3 style I guess?). But instead of swapping, I imagine the moves kind of push the original box towards the other direction, and undoing those move push it back to the original position.
Along with the terminology, it really helps me understand 3 style more! I am currently working towards sub-2 with M2/OP, and will definitely come back for your whole series of 3 style tutorial when I got solid memo technique!
Im a complete noob at 3bld..just got my first success using m2/op yesterday..watched this video cuz it looks interesting and woahhh i already understand how 3 style comms works..great video man..THANKSS!!!
I've been waiting for this video so much time! Thank you for making this video! You are such a good UA-camr and you deserve many more subs! Keep the good quality vids! Your tutorials remind me of j perm's ones.
Can’t wait for the next parts!!!!
Omg this is good, can't wait for the more advanced ones!
I have watched some 3 style tutorials and this one is the best so far. Now all I need to do is learning how to solve a cube
The way I screamed, when you pulled out the 4x4
Thanks aLot
This is the most stylish 3style tutorial
best tutorial I have ever seen
finally understand 3 style
thank you so much
Was eagerly waiting for this. .
Everything was explained so well! Great work!
Thank you so much for putting all your effort into this amazing video.. It has certainly summed up all the things one needs to know to grasp the concept of 3 styles... This has made cubing community an easier and a better place I must say,... n yeah, its the best video about 3 style on UA-cam... Hats off to you...
I don’t know how, but I think I finally understand how to do the setup moves and doing the comms. Everything just clicked when I was doing an fmc attempt.
Concise and very understanding... I watched Noah's long tutorial. But this is awesome. Thanks a ton. I use m2/op. Wish to switch op corners to 3style now.
This was so helpful!! I finally understood this!! Thank you so much!!
Great tutorial! Thanks a lot !(from Taiwan!)
Man! The way you explained was amazing. Awesome video 👍👌👍
Bro I’m watching this 3 style series and your explaining it really well. Thx, cause bld is my fav event and I wanna be quick,
Thanks for this tutorial!! Im exited for pt 2!!
You deserve more subs
Reeeaally nice video! Hopefully it helps some people overcome the "I don't wanna learn so many /understand comms" barrier. I learned full 3-style at around 4 minutes, but never regretted it :D
Best 3style tutorial ever 🔥 sir
A complete guide. Great video!
The best tutorial ever thanks man
Such a clear explanation, amazing tutorial, keep it up :)
Please make the 2nd part as soon as you can.
Thank youuuuu all the other tutorials apart froms noahs were so hard to understand :D
Thanks a lot for all the explanations. After watching a lot of videos, I think I’m starting to understand, till now, almost everything. That’s the way I have a doubt in your last example about the notation:
16:45 The notation is good, but this one, I think, it is not the solution. Try with this one:
[ F: [ U2, R’ D’ R ] ] = F U2 R’ D’ R U2 R’ D R F', according to the previous explanation in 10:54
One more time, thanks a lot.
Or, you can apply the wrong solution propose by Tim: twice, in order to arrive to the right solution, according to the commentary written above in the fixed commentary.
Yaaaaaas I was looking forward to this
this. is. perfect.
Are the other two videos still coming? You’re a really good teacher so it would be appreciated by your subscribers!
This is a really good video
This was literally an Awesome Video
I think I’ve figured out pure comms, but I am having a lot of trouble with finding set up moves
Thank you for this tutorial
Better to use one-look CFOP :P
How do you know which piece goes where? Does the piece have to go to its correct spot first and then the others get solved? Edit: Does it matter what order the pieces get solved in?
Do i need to know blind solve
Great explanation! Thanks!
This is extremely helpful thank you!
Great explanations!
Mr.4 bld it's a awesome video of 3 style tutorial I've ever saw.Thank u so much.But when are u going to upload the next video
in your practice sheet the 3rd. example for edges you say that "there is NOT a single move that will swap two stickers without disturbing the third" so what about F2 (setup U R’ F’ R S R’ F R S’ U’ possible solution with F2: [B L':[F2, U' S2 U]])? it's probably worse for execution and you wouldn't gain anything because with F2 there is no way to insert the 3rd without a setup but even if it's just semantics i'd say the text is wrong.
oops, yeah. [F2, U' S U] works. I'll fix that haha
and i missed the easiest insertion lol.. so far i only use comms on big cubes centers but i might pick it up for corners and edges
1:54 "Interchangably"
No pun intended
very well explained. thanks.
I still don't understand the interchange and insertion concept & also which one I should do first... Someone should please explain
I know how commacators work but i don't know how to learn all 3 style cases ?
During a speedsolve, how do you quickly figure out whether it is an insertion first or interchange first commutator?
Can someone tell me How are the stickers are named like UBL, FDR...etc.
Its called UBL cause its the only piece that is effectet by the moves U B and L, same with the others. Holy that took me to long to figure out
How to deal with the pieces when the cycle is : UBR-UBL. I mean when there are just one piece left other than the buffer. Or when a corner is flipped...
If you only have one target left, you have parity. You can do the UB/UL swap, M2 parity alg, or some other method. If you have a flipped corner, you can shoot to two sides with OP or use a twist alg
Thnx.. it's much more clear to me now... 3 style isn't that hard after all !
Can you make vids for 3style on big cubes? If it is used though..
Goals for quarantine cubing. Skip to learn 3-style for BLD.
Can you Zoe a video on how to make Comms
During memo how do know to do piece swap to seek like you have to competey redo Memo if you have
How can I remember my setup, interchange and insertion it is hard to reverse if I don't remember
great stuff
carry on
great video!
How do you explain Insertion and Interchange for [ R2, S]
What’s the cube
when will you make a video on 4BLD centre comms?
10:52 So it's a conjugate ? Right
Are there advanced methods to 4BLD and 5BLD or is it just getting better at 3BLD and learning more advanced methods to that that will improve your big blind solves?
Yes, you can use comms for centers and wings as well on bigbld
But... I have a stickerless cube. What do I do?
Is there a 3 style method on 4x4?
I’m done edges as of now. I’m optimizing them and making sure i can do them immediately and quickly. After i do this, how do u recommend i do corners. I made my own edge comms and I’ve already been optimizing for a little over a month. I’m done with 8 sets
YES FINALLY
Very clear
Bro.
Will u plz make video for memo in normal 3bld
must insertions be exactly 3 moves?
damn how long did that animation with the conveyor belts take to make?! awesome tutorial btw
lol longer than I would've liked
What cube you are using????
Helped me alot
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!
Part 3?
Andá a buscarla al ángulo, Noah.
UFF
Salu2
IS THERE ANY ALGORITHM TO SOLVE THE CUBE BLD WITH 3 STYLE AND TO MEMORIZE
no