Here's Why Racism's Not "Just Comedy"
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UA-cam Star Posts "Prank" Assaulting Women
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An Open Letter To Sam Pepper By Laci Green
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Sam Pepper Exposed By Laci Green
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Interview With The UA-camrs Behind Hood Pranks
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A Few Thoughts On The Recent UA-cam Scandals
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My Tumblr Posts About Shane Dawson's Problematic Content
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History of Blackface
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Why "whiteface" isn't the same as blackface
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"Social Consequences of Disparagement Humor: A Prejudiced Norm Theory" from Personality and Social Psychology Review www.d.umn.edu/c...
Examples of "Shit white girls say...to black girls" being used in the classroom
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How "Shit White Girls Say...To Black Girls" Blew Up The Internet
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The LA Times review of Shane Dawson's movie "Not Cool"
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What's Happening In Ferguson
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Eric Garner choked and killed by police officer
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Renisha McBride killed while asking for help after a car accident
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Kendrec McDade, unarmed and shot by the police
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John Crawford, shot by the police after 911 caller admits to lying about unloaded BB gun
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This video aged like fine wine. 🍷
This comment also aged well🤣🤣
For sure lmao
*Chefs kiss*
You've got that right 🤦🏿♀️
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Actually, I'm the most disgusted by the selective outrage here. This video where this guy grabs caucasian girls, butts get numerous response videos and a petition, but when there are dozens of hood prank videos nothing happens and no one cares.
coming back to this now 🍵
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I just want to know why there hasn't been an advertisement on a film or a tv series with women (or men) that are undisputedly beautiful (or handsome) Black/Africans who just so happen to have legendary, epic African Hairstyles whether they may be dreadlocks such as yours, an afro, braids and so on. I mean, the book entitled "Hair story" written by those legendary writers (Ayana D. Byrd and Lori L. Tharps) was good but there needs to be a film showing African hairstyles with men and women on a much grander level. By the way, you're dreadlocks are beyond epic. You're more than qualified to have a major impact on influencing the world with your great hairstyle.
XrockythedogX The thing is, as Chescaleigh says in her video, there is no historically awful context for a black person painting their face white, whereas with white people using "blackface" there is a history of abuse and oppression and racism coming from the "minstrel shows" in which white performers would apply blackface in order to mock, stereotype and assert racist agendas against black people in order to make the white audience feel justified in their oppression of black people. So yes, whilst you may not consciously think you're being racist, the action of putting on blackface contributes to racist oppression and ignorance is not an excuse for doing something that harmful. Google blackface and see why it is so hurtful.
XrockythedogX Yeah, you are. Don't pretend that your racist ass cares.
XrockythedogX Have you even watched the video?!
*****
Martin Luther King Jr. said to work together for equality. Why be so militantly against white people if you so strongly believe that they have all the power? Doesn't it seem more logical to gain their support and be allies, rather than attempt to win a social war against them? Singling out white people as the enemy can only further the race division. It does way more harm than good, and in fact, it is racist.
If you can lump *all* white people into a single racist group in your own mind, then white people lumping *all* black people into an ignorant thug group is equally as reasonable and acceptable. Neither are right. If you want someone else to see you as worthy of respect, then you better respect them too. Otherwise, *you are no better than them.*
Skin color should not matter. If skin color matters to black people, then how can you expect it not to matter to white people? Think about what you're saying.
***** for some reason I can't respond to your comment. Take a look at your posting settings. There's a lot of nonsense in your comment that I won't waste time responding to, but I will say this, nowhere did I say that content I don't agree with should be removed from the internet. Please don't put words in my mouth. There's a difference between advocating censorship and encouraging content creators to understand the consequences of the material they produce and educate viewers so they understand the consequences of media they consume. Critique is not censorship.
***** lol why would I lie about not being able to reply to your original comment? what purpose would that serve? that makes literally no sense.
No, I did not "band together" to get someone's videos removed. He removed his own videos. I did not instruct anyone to flag his videos or request he remove them. That was a personal choice. Again, you have a lot of nonsense in your comment, but the last thing I'll say is free speech does not mean free from consequences or free from critique. Best of luck to you!
***** " bfvsgf channel should be taken down cos that has multiple instances of spousal abuse and domestic violence"
These are two consenting adults who play pranks on each other and are well aware of what is going on.
Domestic violence is an actual issue that should be taken seriously.
Two very different things.
I have a lot of issues with what your comment said but this part in particular rubbed me the wrong way.
***** Personally, I would have ditched that relationship long ago, because you know, I could not deal with that, most people probably couldn't. But there is an obvious difference. They don't touch strangers without their consent, cause you know, that's illegal. They also don't terrorize strangers. All of their public pranks that I have seen were innocent jokes.They made their own prank channel called prank vs prank. They obviously are aware this is happening and are open to it, and if not, then one of them is staying in a relationship they shouldn't be in, but that's a different issue in itself.
I probably would not consider any of those things domestic violence either, really. Me and my boyfriend mess around like that as well, not the same extent but it happens, and I wouldn't say either of us are "abused".
You are making domestic violence sound like it is no big deal when it is by saying these little things are abusive. I have witnessed domestic violence, it does not look like that.
with all due respect, do u realize that these videos are u preaching to the choir ? shane isn't gonna see this video and change his behavior. isn't this type of stuff inevitable on youtube and television?
Livi's Vlog I didn't make this video for him or any specific person, hence why no one's name is mentioned. There are plenty of people who needed to hear this information and learned something outside of that person's fans. just because bad things happen and continue to happen doesn't mean it's not worth talking about why they're problematic and attempting to educate others. there are plenty of people in the comments and who've emailed me because they've gained a new perspective based off the content I produce and share. Just because the information is not new to you doesn't mean it hasn't reached other people.
"CRITIQUE IS NOT CENSORSHIP." Can I please use this quote for the rest of my life? Thank you. =)
sure! use away!
Something that really bothered me about the exact timing of Shane's apology video (which, like you said, ONLY referenced his use of blackface, and not any of the other instances of racism in his videos) is just the timing. Why now? Why only during THIS shitstorm of people calling him out for racism, and not any of the other times people have said he's a racist (something he himself brought up is that this isn't even the first time people have said this about him and his content)? I'd hate to be a cynical asshole, but I can't help but wonder if he did this apology now, knowing that his movie is coming out soon (which, by the way, apparently features "a black hobo eating his own shit", according to Shane), because he didn't want any negative publicity surrounding him or anyone thinking he's a racist, because it would potentially hurt the box office draw for his movie?
If he's been doing this type of shit for upwards of 7 or 8 years and people have been calling him out CONSTANTLY for this (and so many other things that you brought up), why is the only time he makes an apology video for this use of racist "comedy" happen to be the same time when he's getting ready to put out a movie? I'd like to believe that, on some level, he's genuinely sorry, but the timing (and, again, the fact that he only focused on his use of blackface and nothing else) makes me a bit uneasy, that's all.
The more fishy thing about Shane's apology video is that literally earlier this same week, people on twitter were calling him out for being blatantly racist and he responded "get the fuck out my face" and "i don't care". He responded to so many people saying that he literally does not care how racist his content is. BUT the exact day of his movie release, and also mere hours after the LA Times called him out for his racist behavior and Tumblr was going into an uproar to report his videos and get his account terminated for breaking the terms and service of UA-cam (for use of abusive language and hate speech violation) He suddenly "changed"! He started deleting all of the videos that document his racist past as evidence to terminate his channel and he deleted all his tweets about how he didn't care and he magically started to take racism seriously. Yeah his timing is a bit too convenient for me to believe.....
Other Guys **nods aggressively forever**
Because he's not finally starting to make it big outside of UA-cam and his PR team want to make sure nothing gets in the way. They told him to apologize because they know the whites will accept it and move on.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that's why
When I watched his apology video I thought the same thing. I think it was all about that movie - which, really?! A movie?! Anyway... Who knows if he'll actually clean up his act and start doing real comedy. I'd really love it if he tried.
You are awesome. I love you. You keep this conversation going through the ignorance and hate. Keep doing your thing cause it's amazing.
I hate the ones where people will go to black neighborhoods, drive around at night, put police lights on top of their car, and pretend to shoot at black people on the sidewalks. like?? that's not funny at all?? black people face a real threat of police killing them?? all the time?? that's not humor or a prank????
I don't? ? Give a shit????
Kaityy TheAsshole As a male I am 4 times more likely than a woman to kill myself.. that doesn't mean it's going to happen.
The number of people representing the groups is irrelevant to my point, at the end of the day more unarmed white people are killed by police than unarmed black people.
It's a simple statement of fact, police brutality is not a racial issue, it's an issue the US needs to address - but it has nothing to do with the colour of someones skin, it's about police response methods.
Hey friends! Just updated the video description box with this really great article "Social Consequences of Disparagement Humor: A Prejudiced Norm Theory" from Personality and Social Psychology Review www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/4925HomeComputer/Rape%20myths/Social%20Consequences.pdf
I realize those of you who don't think racist jokes have negative social consequences won't read it, but I figured I'd give it a shot anyway.
Appreciate it!
What you are doing is so necessary and I'm so glad you made this video.
Thanks for sharing!!
I really love those apologies though, *"I'm sorry "IF" I offended anybody"* which I interpret meaning as, *"I am not sorry for what I did or say, I am just sorry for you that you got offended. "*.
I would like someone to apologize by saying, "I'm sorry I did this" and maybe go into the details of why it is wrong. Just my thought.
Nail on the head. She mentioned micro-aggressions and that's a good example of them. It sounds like an innocent apology on the surface, but it's actually a attempt to blame the people he hurt, while saving himself from doing the work to make up for it. Good apologies don't save face and are *active*. Micheal Vick apologized for animal cruelty by serving a relativity long voluntary prison sentence and did hard work with animal rights groups. Jack Abramoff also served a long sentence for bribing senators as a lobbyist and now dedicates his career to lobbing for lobby reform.
this is so true! i can never take those apologies seriously because the people who apologize in that way never even understand what they did wrong!!
Good point!
Besides what is an apology? An apology is an admission of WRONG doing and a REQUEST for forgiveness.
Dear Franchesca
I'm not sure if you will see this but I feel like I need to write this anyway. Let me start off by personally apologizing I have over the past few years watched Shane's videos. I have over the years noticed certain people taking offense to content in Shane's videos and always thought they were being overly sensitive. I realize now how wrong I was. Instead of just assuming they were overreacting I should have tried to understand why they were upset. I Should not have just dismissed them and assumed they should get over it
You have made me see that just because something is done in a comedic way or intended to be funny does not mean it is not offensive. I have never thought about why people get so upset about things such as blackface and I finally understand why it is so offensive. I Sincerely hope you accept my apology and I swear to you that I will try to be more understanding of things like this. You stated your argument so well that it has actually made me think about things differently and I appreciate that. I wish I had as much courage as you do to stand up to people even though you know it will mean a lot of backlash.
You should be very proud of yourself. :)
Comments like this make the drama worth it! Thank you! My goal is education, not condemnation. Woa, that rhymed. lol I'm of the mind, "you can't know what you don't know", so I aim to help people understand so they can make better choices that don't hurt other people. Glad you understand! Thank you!
You shouldn't have to apologize for watching a video.
Danielle Snead
Maybe I should have said that a little differently it's not about the video.I was apologizing for supporting that kind of content without thinking about how it could hurt other people. When content is genuinely harmful we shouldn't support it.
I'm not saying you're supporting it though sorry if it came out the wrong way
This video aged like wine. 🍷 ✊🏼#BLM
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Nah
I keep getting called the N word but silly little white boys on this app called Monkey. They keep saying I’m from South Africa and other places in Africa even though I’m from Britain and my ancestors are from Jamaica. I just don’t understand why some of them keep doing this to me when I have said nothing to them? I can see who they are, they know exactly what they’re saying to me so I just don’t understand. I go in this app with my friends (all of them are white) and they laugh about it and they don’t know how much it hurts me.
All Black Jamaicans came from Africa, mainly Ghana and Nigeria, so you do have African ancestry. Being called African is not an insult, it’s the origin of all people on Earth and closely all Black people.
Who cares what they say ? Call them pigs 🐷
I've noticed that a lot of people on youtube will automatically shut down a debate about race and claim that someone is "race-baiting" or "pulling the race card." I see this all the time and it's really too bad.
...I literally can't understand how anyone can attack you for you saying "hey, racism and sexism isn't cool". What the fuck?
Probably a Genius Wow, you probably are a genius -_-
Probably a Genius Except she used it appropriately. There's also no way to substantiate nor measure your claim. While "literally" may be being overused as of last year, hyperbole has been completely overused for almost a decade now (and it has been tracked). Congratulations on being ironic.
Stephanie Saveria Even though this is an old comment I thought it was important to reply because I can explain how this works. This might be a little bit to read, fair warning. But since you said you don't understand it I think it would be beneficial if you did. So there are a couple of aspects to this. We've been told since Reagan (and before but it really kicked back into high gear with him) that Americans are more or less John Wayne. Well... John Wayne's onscreen persona, that is. So when you've been raised with the idea that you've never had anything given to you and never had help from anyone so you and you alone have earned everything you have and accomplished everything you've ever done without any help from anyone you internalize that and believe it. Even most liberals I think would be offended if you tell them they didn't earn their house or their car or something even though they didn't. You paid for it inside the system we have worked out but you didn't build that system or maintain it on your own so no, that car you're driving was not the result of your hard work and yours alone.
You had help with every aspect of life and so did everyone else in America today. But that idea is offensive because we're told "you didn't earn that" is the same as "you don't deserve that." And telling someone "you don't deserve that" is saddling them with the "welfare queen" stereotype. And that is the worst thing you can be according to American society. So when you bring up racism or sexism you're saying the status quo favors some over others and the ones who are favored did not earn that status. Now that's true of course but these people have been trained since birth to resist that truth because damn it, they earned everything they had and saying otherwise is an attack on them. That's also part of the Southern Strategy. The message is that white people created this society and now everyone else wants to take away their spot at the top which they earned. So minorities (mostly black) want to be equal to you without doing the work to get there. From their perspective white men are at the top because they deserve to be. Got to be, because if that's not true that would mean they were given things they didn't work for and that is too painful a thought to bear because that would make them welfare queens and put them in the same category of the people they've been demonizing for decades now.
The other part of it is change is scary. If you stir the pot you will be hated by a lot of people, period. That's why feminism is so scary to so many people, including a shocking amount of women. The status quo, even if it's bad for you, is more comforting in a lot of ways than change because as long as things don't change you don't have to face the unknown. You don't have to be uncertain and wonder what the future holds. Change is scary for a lot of us and that means we want to avoid it at all costs. That's especially true if you're in a privileged position. If things change you might lose that. And then what will you do? Will your whole life change? Will you have to change the way you think and act? How will the world change around you? That's scary for many, many people. Bringing up racism and sexism means you either have to acknowledge that's the way it is and that it's not fair or work to change it and face the uncertainty of a new and scary world. Both of those are intimidating so it's best to pretend it doesn't exist and intimidate people into keeping their mouths shut so you just don't have to think about it.
So anyway, I hope this helps.
+Stephanie Saveria Well if you're sexist and racist then sexism and racism are cool.
I'm so glad you made this video. As a person of color I have become increasingly uncomfortable with just how normalized racism dressed up as comedy fodder is widely accepted on youtube. Racism dressed up in a feather boa and sequins is still racism.
It's so frustrating that this disturbing trend isn't being talked about because the more this stuff is perpetuated the less this community feels that it is for me as a woman of color. And the more it feels that youtube is no longer a safe space for everyone. I wish more content creators gave a shit about this because I'm tired. I'm so tired of all the willful ignorance, and of the fact that people will run in droves to support every elevation of human rights and yet when it comes to the conversation about racism within the collective YT community you could hear a pin drop.
Thank you for using your voice and not allowing others to dictate when and how you use it.
It always amazes me how people get offended about someone else being offended by something. Lol, like i truly don't comprehend it. If someone posts something and it didn't sit well with you, and you decide to share how it didn't sit well...I don't understand why people feel the need to yell and be upset at you for not liking it. AND THEN it is the sameeee people who will say "If you don't like it don't watch" or "If you don't like it get off youtube". But, aren't those people themselves doing the same exact thing they're yelling at someone else for doing? It's OKAY to disagree with someone. That's the beauty of being an competent autonomous human being. We can think and have opinions and they may differ from others and that is perfectly ok. What's NOT okay is bashing someone especially, telling them to inflict self harm or any etc. because you don't feel they should feel the way they do. You can talk to someone and share your disagreements without resorting to negative and hurtful comments.
What's with people leaving comments and not enabling the ability to reply???? Please make sure you check your settings folks!
For all of those defending Shane Dawson you need to understand the history of Black Face and the effect or harm it has on the black race is important. Once you understand that you will comprehend what this video is about. White people pretending to be black for comedic entertainment is not ok (in some sense). The african american culture has to grow from being the stereo typical thug, thief, ghetto princess, and uneducated person; and anyone who dresses in black face to characterize those people are ignorant and shameful. Shane Dawson pretending to change and apologize for his actions that got him the fame and success he has today is foolishness and I will not accept it. However, I am a Shane Dawson subscriber and have been for almost 5-6 years. His comedy, parodies, and vlogs are actually pretty funny and caught my attention long ago. He isn't specific to making fun of any particular race and will forever have many characters that stereotype all types of races. I, a black woman, am not offended by his black face for a few reasons. For our culture to grow and move past being a stereotype we need to educate those on what offends our people and stop throwing the race card to any white person who offends us. The human race has existed for millions of years and we only have recently understood the idea of equality. Don’t get me wrong we have A LOT of work ahead of us. *Women and equal pay hint hint… but putting focus for one person personifying a black person and acting as their exact personality is not where our problem lies. Shane Dawson’s actions only justifies the actions of the many black people in America who are the stereotype and need to move forward and help our race become better. Black men and women… PLEASE educate yourself, create, change, react, learn, and be better so we as a race can move forward and understand who we are, where we came from, how far we have come, and grow pass the stereotype.
This year I am dressing up as snow white. I know for a fact no one is going to make me a news headline for dressing as a white character. However, my dear white friend who dresses as Tiana (princess and the frog) better not paint her face black or else she will be on CNN next week. *Sarcasm.
I guess all I am saying is Shane sit down and shut up. Be you. Be honest.
Btw, how else will we understand that he is portraying wendy williams without getting into full character? Shall we bring iron man's robert downey jr. into this topic of conversation for being a black man in tropic thunder? We need to not be so sensitive about things that aren't the real reasons for our black struggle and I assure you its not white people portraying black celebrities or black characters. Let's tackle Nicki Minaj's effect on the black race first.
chescaleigh I agree with many things you said in your video and what you did is good and right. UA-cam has a lot of racist arenas, I am finding. If you can you should also call out blacks who act equally as vile towards their own (show by example).
In regards to the blond video you did, I watched it and I am sure I laughed but lets face it. you were making fun of white girls (ok ignorant white girls) and saying that black people have naturally blond hair as an excuse was really out there. I am pretty sure you are not connected to the people in the pacific ocean (who are a unique population (a freak of nature for lack of a better term)).
I don't think your video was racist (not even close) but i am making this comment based on reading some banter you had with someone in the comments section (cant find it because i left the video to go watch the items in the description box).If someone white became offended, i couldn't say anything to them because i am not the one who suffered hurt. You have to own that not dismiss it. Describe what is racism act vs. offensive. My understanding of black face (you can correct me, i purposely did not search it) is an tool used by white americans back in the day to portray blacks as retarded and sub-human.
Annmarie busu again, blonde hair is not exclusive to white people and blonde's are not an oppressed minority. using blonde hair to iillustrate that the character was white, is not racist and nothing in that video contributes to the oppression or mistreatment of white people. it's unfortunate that so many people cannot understand this, but life goes on.
chescaleigh maybe my comment was not clear. i did NOT equate the black face with your video. i even said your video is not racist. To be clear, what i was saying is your video can be considered offensive or even hurtful to others. when you applied the blond wig it was clearly meant towards white and not anyone else. blacks aren't the only dark skinned on the planet but you can clearly tell the black face was meant for you.
Your hands are not racist but they are not clean. that's where i am coming from and that's is the ammunition that will be used to challenge your words right or not.
however, my comments are nothing to take too seriously, you can dismiss them. they are my person view and not meant to cause you ill will.
Here's an idea! Instead of all the white people arguing with her in the comments, you shut up, listen to her, and take it to heart. Sincerely, another white person
Liv Heart ha! thanks for collecting your folks! ;)
if this situation had happened 3 or 4 years ago, i probably would've sided with shane. i was one of those "its only offensive if you give it power" types, and it took me having to take a college course on the topic of race before i fully understood what racism even was. and im black. so i have a bit of optimism for some of his fans that may just be ignorant trying to defend their idol... but then there are others i saw who im just gonna hope aren't beyond help...
Thank you for making this video.
I honestly got a "poor me" vibe from Shane's apology. He was more preoccupied with his tarnished image and being called a racist than his actual behaviour. It became more obvious when he talked about how he is afraid those racist UA-cam videos will colour people's judgment of his "film" (I use that term loosely). It was so self-centred.
You are such a well-spoken, strong, inspirational woman. Thank you for making this video, not a lot of people are brave enough to speak out knowing the kind of backlash they'll receive for it. It must be so hard dealing with all the hate you get, I have no idea how you do it. But you gotta know you're a huge source of inspiration and you've educated a lot of people.
Agree, she is a very strong and well spoken person
The Oxford English Dictionary defines racism as the "belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races" and the expression of such prejudice. I completely agree that blackface is racist and inappropriate, but personally I believe something like "shit white girls say" is also racist, because it attributes those qualities to all white girls. Just because it doesn't have the same history as black racism doesn't change the fact that it is inherently racist IMO.
Daniel Jensen we're not talking about the dictionary definition, we're talking about racism in practice and how it's explained by sociology.
Racism in any form is not acceptable. Double standards are never justifiable. I am not disagreeing with you, just saying that "shit white girls say" IS racist. Although it may be worse due to the context behind blackface, it still isn't acceptable. While I understand that the video was to make a point, you're still attributing the "racist stereotype" to all white girls. Which is racist.
Daniel Jensen talking about microagressions i've experienced from white people is not racist. stereotypes combined with discrimination, prejudice and institutional power is what creates oppression/racism. "shit white girls say" is not oppressing anyone. if you're mad or offended by it, that's fine. but it is what it is. and it's not racist. the end.
So something has to be oppressive to be racist, in your opinion?
To me it's like asking if you be classist against a rich person. It's semantics I guess
I love how I stumbled across this video after I had a small rant on my twitter account about how youtube doesn't have a report option for videos that promote racism. UA-cam is no longer a place where I can relax and watch funny videos without being hit with a wave of cheaply made racist, sexist, and homophobic "humor". It's distressing. I'm glad you're a youtuber that has brought this topic up!
"Blondes are not an oppressed minority in this country." Exactly. People don't understand the difference between hurt feelings and systemic oppression.
Franchesca, you're an amazing woman, and I'm so thankful that you're out there making your voice heard, as well as providing us with such wonderful content. I'll definitely be showing this video, as well as your other videos, to my Writing and Sociology students this semester. Please never forget what a huge difference you're making and will continue to make. You have handled these situations with such grace, far more than what many people deserve. The strength it takes to do the right thing, your strength, will ultimately strengthen those with open minds and hearts. We will draw upon the wisdom you impart to make the right decisions, too. I suppose you could say that you've contributed to the enlightenment of many. Please keep it up, and know that you have my continued support.
Wow! Thanks for sharing my videos with your students! So flattering!
You're honestly so amazing and I'm so glad you made this video
Actually I know a few black people who are born with blonde hair.
+Paul L. Rogers Occasionally even ginger, I believe.
TheMightyFiction You are right
+TheMightyFiction I know one
South Africa?
Francesca completely explained how blackface and whiteface are different, and tons of comments are totally glossing over that. Social/historical context is essential, people!
Ian Reed you always know what's up!
chescaleigh I do my best! :)
She isn't attacking Shane.. Infact shes giving some extremely valuable advice and hoping for a change in the community.. this is the shit we need to end racism.
I love that you spell it out without being condescending or preachy. It's a good "just the facts" approach which is really accessible. Also your eyebrows are amazing. Perf.
I am so happy that you made this video!! I wrote something about a prank like this forever ago: katblaque.tumblr.com/post/88793310124/my-response-to-roman-atwoods-race-bating-prank
I am so sorry that Shane's audience is so crazy. I'm going to be doing a video about black face and a lot of other things that have come out of this conversation. It really upsets me how people legitimately refuse to see these things as problematic. Like you say, critiquing racism is not the same as being a racist.
This conversation is so important. I'm so glad this video exists. It's really important to discuss the issue of blackface in a historically truthful context, which almost never happens. It's not just "comedy," people.
I have the utmost respect for this woman. The fact that she can get on UA-cam day after day and discuss these things that matter to her and matter to her audience despite people calling her everything but a child of God is amazing to me.
You, Chescaleigh, are such an inspiration.
You never cease to amaze me, I'm so sorry you had to deal with this. You're a wonderful person
As a somewhat "older" lady (40's), I don't necessarily find Shane Dawson's humor to be my cup of tea. But what I can recognize is a contrite spirit and a willingness to humble himself and learn. Did he say ALL the perfect things in his apology video? No. But I give him so much credit for being willing to put himself out there. He's a very young man and has grown up practically on the internet. I give you major props for standing up again the "machine" that is his fandom. But I also give him the same. Let people grow. It's not an instantaneous process. But he's moving in the right direction. Also, he is not responsible for his followers. I'm sure it's frustrating for him to have people "speaking for him". But that is also the monster that is the internet.
I think that by pointing out the flaws his/anyone's apology does not mean you're being too harsh on them but it serves the purpose of recognizing that they have a long way to go and the IMPORTANCE in doing so, because any kind of seemingly harmless racist act goes far beyond hurting people's feelings. It is contributing to oppression, fcs
He is responsible for his followers. These are young kids being raised by his content, the normalizing of racial stereotypes and misogyny have a huge effect on a growing mind. If you're going to be making millions from impressionable children then being a role model is the price you pay.
Audrey Horne I'm not how you can say he's "responsible" for the people (children) who follow him. They have parents and these parents are not properly guiding or watching their children's online activity. Once again, I don't agree with all of Shane's content, but at the end of the day, adults are responsible for themselves and children are under the responsibility of their guardians/parents. If Shane was instructing his "followers" to attack or bully, then he should be held responsible. But I've seen him ask for the opposite.
Pam Sherman
Thank you so much for pointing this out! I wanted to but I was too scared that I would be thought of as "one of Shane's fans" and that, at this point, has a really negative vibe around it.
Pam Sherman The parents have the largest responsibility but if you make all your money from pandering to a bunch of children who haven't developed mentally and are susceptible to suggestion then yes, being a role model is the price you pay. Why is that such a hard concept to grasp? Actually, don't answer that.
I'm going to be completely honest. Although I have supported the idea that there can't be racism against white people, because I heard POC explaining it, I never fully understood why until watching this video. Stereotypes/prejudice against white people are not upholding/supporting oppression, and therefore are not racist. Thank you so much for all that you do in this community, and all that you have done to educate me.
+amy bear
Racism :
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
or
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
it is totally possible to be racist towards white, it has nothing to do with oppression. also, my dad was taking an HR class with his work & a question asked was "can you be racist towards a white" (and might i add the guy leading the class was black) & he said YES YOU CAN. you can be racist against ANY race. hope i educated you a little.
+Amy Matthews watch her video on the "definition" of racism. It explains everything.
Rich Bananarama How thick is yours to not look beyond a single sentence of text for your research?
Rich Bananarama guess what
(whispers) The justice system is pretty fucked up. That's why racism is systematic. You're still ignoring scientists.
+QuikVidGuy Dictionaries contain the definition of words. Until dictionaries say so, oppression doesn't define racism. You can't just change the meaning of a word to mean what you want it to mean. If you think all white people are [insert stereotype] and that it justifies negative actions towards whites, then you are, by the definition of the word, a racist. Believing that a person is less deserving of respect because they are of a certain race makes you a racist. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Ahead of her time😃
Please don't think that you have to educate people who perpetuate Racism/White Supremacy, many of them know exactly what they are doing and are pretending to be ignorant. I wasn't aware that something like this was happening, thank you for bringing attention to it. But continue to enjoy your hiatus and look forward to seeing more of your videos!
thanks for the support! I pick and choose who I respond to and more times than not it's not about educating them (because they're a lost cause) it's more about educating other people who are reading and not chiming in. I get lots of emails from people who read the comments and don't participate, but find the discussions helpful. so I'm very deliberate in what I respond to. with that being said, thanks for looking out for me and for the support
No doubt! From my understanding those who perpetrate these Racist/White Supremacist content are doing what is culturally normal for them and those that watch it expect such content. It is to be expected and I am glad there are UA-camrs like yourself that make content that counters that.
Ken Osiris what surprises/saddens me is how many black kids are watching this content, eating it up and telling me they're embarrassed to be black just because I see it as offensive.
WOW! I did not know that there were black children watching this. Shouldn't be surprised though. Antiblackness is very strong. SMH. I'm gonna need time to digest that. Do you direct them to some positive content? Because there are some channels that either are positive depictions of black people like CaketheSeries or black people talking about Racism/White Supremacy in a constructive manner ***** .
Ken Osiris i've been hesitant to engage because they're just really out there. i mean, trolling me HARD on social media. making posts about me on instagram, flooding the comments on other videos. they're just goin in. it's...really disturbing. i can't imagine going to such lengths to defend a celebrity i don't know and will probably never meet. but then again, i'm not a teenager. i think their allegiance to them is so strong because UA-cam makes it feel like you have a friendship with these vloggers, rather than them being strangers you don't actually know. at least, that's what I suspect. thanks for those other channel links. i have to check them out!
Your "shit white girls say" video was shown in one of my women's studies classes (which is how I found your channel) and I thought it was hilarious! Keep up the good work! :)
very cool! thanks!
By you making a separation on the blonde wig/black face thing shows how the world is fucked up in a way that being a minority gives you some kind of power for people to act that way. I've been a minority for years as an argentinean in Europe and still felt like this self racism is way worse than any other thing.
Imagine a black person acting white. That equals humor. Now imagine a white person acting black. That equals a guy that should be pointed out and separated from society. And thats exactly what you are saying just because xxx and xxx happened in the past. Lots of really bad things happened in history by hand of blonde people... in fact, more things that some particular racist situations regarding black faces. You feel me?
UNTIL THE DAY WE ARE ALL COOL WITH EACH OTHER, AND FIRST OF ALL, WITH OURSELVES, RACISM WILL BE ALIVE AND KICKING. PERIOD.
Preach.
I honestly felt that in the apology video, he was sadder about his reputation as a racist than about the impact of his actions and how much racism he was actually perpetuating (intentionally or not). Yes, the apology was a step in the right direction, but I think his actions in the future will show whether he actually learned from this experience.
Also, I (and many others) appreciate that you continue to speak out about this, even when facing so much undeserved backlash. You rock.
THANK YOU FRANNY!
I love the fact that you generate proper thoughts on every topic even though you receive harmful words. Putting yourself out there is brave and the thing everyone that has watched this video is you earn respect.
thanks love!
I think it's very admirable that you put yourself out here to speak up for things that are very important despite all the shit you get from ignorant (lets be honest: white) people. I hope you find the strength to continue doing this because it's empowering and educating and highly necessary for this world to see a change. Thank you xx
A handful of them are misguided POC who've internalized racism meant to keep them in a negative box
athelija very interesting correction. is there some way you could give me a source on this or explain it to me in pm? tbh i don't fully understand it ahah :)
This was.......perfect. I literally. I'm speechless. Whenever someone asks me a question about how I feel about racism, negative stereotypes against black people and people of color, I'm just gonna point them to this video. This was SO well said. We have to be aware that we are responsible for the messages we put out there and we want to promote equality, positivity, and content that moves us forward (or just allows us to relax) but not hurt others in the process. Love this. :) I PARTICULARLY love your overview of the history of Black face and why it's so hurtful. This was great. :)
youre honestly the only youtube that i have full respect for and can look up to. you put up content that is thought provoking. you put up amazing videos that i can even show to my class and teach them about things that they never want to talk about. thank you.
Thank you!!
No prob! Thanks for replying I love your videos
After watching your video I researched the person who did the black characters on UA-cam for several years. It appears that you and several other UA-camrs made videos trying to educate him YT and also on social media but he just ignored it and blocked people.
Now that a reporter from the L.A. Times trashed him and his movie he wants to apologize to you and others? I guess, his agent and PR person told him to remove the videos now that he wants to make movies or else he will just be a UA-cam Star. The sad part is no matter what he does in the future those images and videos will follow his career.
You have always been one of the smartest, funniest and most beautiful young women on UA-cam that I watch. You may not have million of subs but your real fans and subs love you and your videos a million times over! - Will
CreativeSoulTV hey! you have supported me for soooo long, it's just so incredibly flattering. I don't have millions of subs, but I have a lot of smart ones, which means a lot. So thank you! agreed, the timing is suspect. But if he's willing to change, I'm all for it.
Don't worry about the people who don't like you. Because there are more people who love you and got your back. I love you, learned so much from you and hoping you come back. Omg I'm actually crying right now because I do love and miss you on here.
Minded you I'm like 22 lol crying like a 14 year old fan girl hahaha.
Omg my heart just melted! You're so sweet! I feel incredibly blessed to have such a smart and compassionate community here on UA-cam. I miss you all a lot, but I'll be back before you know it
Girl, the only people that don't like you are the 12 year olds whose parents failed to raise them right. You do you, boo!
Seriously those "in the hood pranks" make me so angry
Once again a cogent and wonderfully thought out response to an extremely troubling culture. You're a true testament that a creator never needs to talk down to their audience, or please them through just disgusting means. Keep on keeping on.
Sadly he recently uploaded a vid that essentially invalidated his previous apology when he realized that he made more than one "offense".
I knew he wasn't seriously.
exactly.
I really love how you dont piss about in your vids, your're stong,straight up and fully open with all of your comedy your're by far my favorite youtuber so dont change!
Frome leoni
P.s. dont listen to these haters they're still stuck in the teenwolf and immature humor zone.
Franchesca, sending love and support
What really irritates me is the fact that even's talking about racism is called "race baiting" or playing the "race card." Many ppl clap back like that cause they're afraid of being called a racist and in this world Racist=KKK. I don't think that Shane is gonna burn a cross on my lawn. But I do think his mindset is filled with those negative stereotypes that he needs to address. Apologizing like that is like shooting someone and apologizing for it. There is still a hole there that needs to be addressed. And Chesca, you know we love you girl!!!!
I want you to know, you are one of my personally favorite content creators. But I saw that video you liked, the one to Support Black Bodies, The Blood Bucket Challenge, and I just couldn't bring myself to watch it. And I'm realizing that I am quite ignorant of many of the racially-fueled incidents in the U.S.
My point? I have none, but I really like what you do.
Thanks! That video is intense, but really important if you get a chance to watch it.
Well, you're definitely my favourite person right now, Franchesca, so at least there's that? Thank you so much for making this!!! I know you're facing a ton of hate and harassment right now, but know that I fully support you and I am so excited for all the people who see this who so desperately need to. You are so important to this community. Take care!
This lady I just discovered is perfection.
***** naw, far from perfect. i make mistakes just like everyone else, but i'm fortunate enough to have amazing friends, family and a supportive audience who hold me accountable and help me learn and grow along the way. i try my best to lead by example, which means owning up to mistakes when they happen and doing my best to learn from them. thanks for being part of the conversation and part of my journey!
Beautifully said. You truly are gifted when it comes to discussing controversial issues. You speak so intelligently!!
*Yay! I love you Franchesca!*
I am a white female, and I just want to say, no matter what color you are, you seem so educated and classy. You are so smart and inspiring, and the beautiful color of your skin does not make you any less that anyone else, and it's really great that you seem to know that. Thanks for getting the conversation started on the UA-cam community!
Ok. Ok. Ok. I know I'm late to the party. But I really need to say something. I am black. Ok? Ok. I just felt as if I needed to clear that up. I think you play the race card for any and everything. Plus, you're very hypocritical. It's not ok for someone to joke about black people, (Shane Dawson), but it's OK for you to do "Shit White Girls Say to Black Girls"? You're putting a whole group of people, and stereotyping them as one. It makes no sense. I hate people who are always trying to pick apart every little thing that a COMEDIAN does. It's not ok for a white person to joke about black people, but it's TOTALLY ok for a black person to joke about white people. In White Chicks, two black men, turned themselves white and was a "stereotypical" white girl. I personally thought the movie was hilarious, and I know that many white girls took no offense to it. But as soon as a white person makes one little joke, they're racist. Do you know the meaning of the racist? Thinking that ones own race is superior than the others. I just find you very annoying. And you can not take a joke, whatsoever. Good day. :)
NeroPanChi lol ok love
I just hope you learn that everything is not about race.
NeroPanChi funny you say that as black people are being killed by cops for no damned reason. you continue to live with the wool over your eyes, your wakeup call will come and it's gonna suck, but i'll be here when you're ready.
chescaleigh I do not live with wool over my eyes. Of course I know that racism still exists, but you try to put race into every little thing. Black people are getting killed my cops for no reason, yes, but what does that have anything to do with my original statement. You seem to think that all white people are against black people, don't let a few set of ignorant white people give you a whole judgement of the race.
NeroPanChi where did I say all white people are against black people? if I really thought all white people were terrible, why would I marry one?
I almost never read or write comments on UA-cam videos but I feel so incredibly compelled to tell you that you're doing an amazing job raising awareness about racism, both past and present day. I genuinely think that educating people about these issues can help the world as a whole become a more tolerant place, so thank you!
Argh. I wrote a really long response and it got eaten when the video finished. But it basically said that I don't talk enough about race because I am white and privileged and also OVERWHELMED by how little I know about it and how much there is to learn, and how I feel I don't speak from a place of at least native knowledge like I do with feminism. And as a former reporter, it becomes really hard for me to advocate for the elimination of even things I find wrong/bad art/unfunny/abusive of stereotypes because I'm one of those people who thinks the right to make the terrible stuff protects everyone. It gets really cloudy and difficult to stand up for both things - for racial equality as well as bad comedy that engages in the more subtle ways racism maintains its hold - and have failed at it before. But nothing is so easy to discern here, and we should all educate ourselves more so we can talk about it with more realism and overcome privilege. So here's my promise: I will try! Great video.
Melissa Anelli "But nothing is so easy to discern here, and we should all educate ourselves more so we can talk about it with more realism and overcome privilege." whole heartedly agree! I think a lot of people are misunderstanding my intent here, but it sounds like we're on the same page. I'm not advocating censorship or saying that content I don't like has no place on the internet. that's ridiculous and nearly impossible. everyone has the right to create and say whatever they'd like, the same way I have every right to critique it and choose not to support it. My goal is not censorship, it's education. Thanks for watching and chiming in
chescaleigh (Dude that's the first time I used that Google+ thing. I am growing.) Totally - I hope it didn't sound like I was saying you were doing that. That's just the line of friction I've had, myself, in the past, and it sits uncomfortably, and I question it a lot, and find myself completely at a loss to understand it. And that's why the conversation has to continue! :)
Melissa Anelli oh no, I understood where you were coming from, but I think a lot of people, scratch that I KNOW a lot of people think I'm saying we should censor content based on my personal opinions which is impossible and ridiculous. I think you're right, we need a little of everything out there, even things we don't agree with or understand. it'd be a pretty boring place if media only appealed to our personal beliefs. Not to mention, who'd be the person to decide what passed the bar? and welcome to G+! The comments take some getting used to, but seems like you're doin just fine ;)
uggh I hate when that happens.
Annmarie busu UA-cam has a knack for eating comments huh?
This video is so informative- it really opened my eyes. You discuss a lot of relevant points that so many people seem to be too afraid or uninterested to address. Thank you for this, Chesca!
Yes as the wise Crissle says, words mean things. It's sad that you have to be brave to discuss this subject matter, but you do, so I say thank you for being brave and speaking about this. You also do it in a way that I think really breaks it down in to understandable pieces. In all the nonsense, there has to be a seed planted and I guess that's why people keep speaking out. They have hope that things will change if we just persevere. I share that hope with you.
Hey another listener of "The Read" :D
"I like me, and it's all good" and I like you too, Chesca! Thank you for bringing up such an important issue here despite the immature backlash.
This video is so important and was put together so logically and you should be proud of it. I'm going to be showing this to my younger siblings who are saturated in media, ESPECIALLY UA-cam. Thank you for this video. It's very clear and calm while still igniting passion for change.
You are perfect and you message needs to be heard everywhere.
Even if you don't agree with her or if you think she's being "over dramatic", she is so well spoken & intelligent.
sorry, i realize this comment is supposed to be positive but im pretty sure you wouldn't say this about a white girl. the term well spoken especially is often used to describe a PoC bc you're surprised a PoC could actually be smart due to your internalized racism. that's all :)
+cass t I'm pretty sure he was literally just complimenting her well spoken-ness, bc not everyone (regardless of skin tone) is so well-spoken. i don't get it, you can't insult a black person (which makes sense) but you can't compliment a black person without being called racist?? fucked up society.
+cass t I was genuinely just complimenting her. But it's all good. You seem to be a bit over dramatic but you also seem to be very intelligent & well spoken. ;) Oh, and as a Mexican American I believe I fall into the "PoC" category, just throwing that out there.
This is really, really great.
Thank you so much for all you're doing to educate the UA-cam/Tumblr community. This is definitely something that needed to be discussed and needs to continue to be discussed moving forward. Thanks for being willing to tackle this issue so publicly despite the onslaught of spite from an audience that's been wrongly led to believe that racist humor is acceptable. You handled it SO well. This was important. You are important!!
As a 15 year old mixed girl,I love your videos so much!! You're the only person on UA-cam that I can watch without hearing jokes about Ebola,(yes,Ebola is a serious disease,so it really gets in my nerves when people joke on this),cancer,abuse,etc etc. It also gets on my nerves when people say I "don't count as a black person because I'm half white and I act more white than I do black" like ok,so should I have a sign everywhere I walk saying "I'm black" while I do all those dumb sterio types,orrrr.......
But to sum it up I love your videos and I hope to see you come back soon. Love you and keep up the coolness ❤️
Yessssss, this needs to be said, this is so SO important.
Funny how those "edgy" people think they are being divergent when really they are simply supporting the status quo
Look I know this viedo was filmed in 2014 and it is now 2018 but i just want to say thank for andresing this issue. I 100% agree that rascim is a big issue in todays society.
I *love* you. You're so brilliant at articulating healthy/intelligent views on difficult topics. And I think people forget how much you're taking on in doing so. You get a lot of terrible backlash from ignorant and unkind people and I'm so sorry for that. I have a crazy amount of respect for you and am so glad you speak on important things.
Why did I think the comments would be progressive and insightful? It is tragic down here and it's kind of sickening to know that people are really so hell-bent on defending damaging and inappropriate content.When "your fave" is problematic, CALL THEM OUT ON IT! Brushing over it because you find them funny or desensitizing yourself to that type of material is not the proper course of action. Promoting and defending the use of black-face, among other inappropriate attempts at comedy of this nature, further perpetuates negative stereotypes which actually affects lives.
I'm just going to be 100% honest here, i'm white, but i don't believe there is such a thing as racism towards white people from people of color. I grow up and live with a family who uses racial slurs all the time and i have never found it funny at all. Racism toward people of color is real, but racism toward white people isn't real, it's just the truth about the majority of white people. And it really annoys me when white people get so butthurt over "white racism" and say that they aren't like that or "not all white people" If they weren't, why are they getting so offended? Because they obviously do say racist things, other wise they wouldn't be so offensive about it.
I just wish shane could have used his apology to educate his audience, but maybe he'll link them to this video. BTW this was so thoughtfully put together and brilliantly executed. :)
I know what you mean. These "in the hood" pranks as they've been branded are quite frankly disgusting. And whenever something happens, some use it as an excuse to say blacks are this and that. Content like that should be illegal. Creating and influencing stereotypes that shouldn't be there at all and they end up ingrained into people. It's disgusting.
Probably a Genius so?
Probably a Genius so someone steals from you and you just blink? Your self control is amazing.
Thank you for this video. Personally,I haven't seen any of these videos, but I am grateful to you for boldness and bravery and being a positive influence in a negative situation. I know it is NOT easy to call out the "masses" and you still speak on what is right and call individuals into action. You're a role model and I'm proud of you!
i agree!!
This is the most eloquent counter argument that I've heard in regards to humor that critiques everyday racism, as opposed to actual racism. This means so much to me and I'm really glad you shared this. Very well done!
It's sad that some people REALLY don't get it. They really think racism is historical or something irrelevant and anyone who points it out is just trying to bring it back somehow or seeking attention.....that shit is annoying.
You said it exactly how it needed to be said. I am guessing here you spoke about Shane Dawson but there are soo many examples of how blackface and brownface and yellowface are thrown around for "entertainment". I am glad that you have such a good perspective and that you are able to convey your message without diminishing other issues. I really look up to you because I recently moved to the US and as a person of color, being a victim about the stereotypes that surround Latin Americans, I feel, even more than before (and it used to be a lot) that as a society and community here on UA-cam that we should stand up to those people who are popular for the wrong reasons. Thanks for making these awesome videos. And I saw your video of shit white girls say in my social psychology of groups class at FSU. SO yes. Thanks :D
go in chescaleigh!!!!!!!! love you! this was so good and thorough.
This is one of the most important videos on UA-cam. As someone who loves watching UA-cam content, it's highly discouraging when I see some of my favorite UA-camrs stand up against certain issues but completely disregard racism on UA-cam, which is blatantly prevalent. I appreciate the fact that you actually made a video verbalizing the issue, especially in such a well versed manner. This video needs to go viral!
girl, you are a gift. seriously. thank you so much for everything you do.
Everthing you said was 1000 % right - nicely done....
You're the best. So eloquent and concise. You need like... politics. Or better, the Daily Show or something.
ah! that would be amazing! from your mouth to God's ears!
Shane Dawson says the racist slurs he used in his videos are just jokes, and that his fan know that he doesn't have a racist intent or mean them in a harmful way. However, his audience, or part of it, did have a racist intent and did do harm. Dawson's fans used those words as hate speech towards Chescaleigh, now if his fans see those words as weapons and not jokes I'm forced to wonder how they see his use of blackface and racial caricatures. Was it just more jokes or the same delimiting racist mockery it always was...
Sam Pepper may have meant the gropes as jokes but they were not received that way. They were violations! Shane Dawson may have meant the slurs and blackface as jokes but they were not received that way. They were dehumanizing and disrespectful.
_“How can white people sit there and be like “I don't see how [blank] is offensive”. Of fucking course you don’t you aren't the one being offended by it and that’s why people who are offended are pointing it out to you and telling you it’s offensive and why”_ ~ quentintortellini?
I'm so happy to hear that you are enjoying your time away. But the moments like this when you come back and drop knowledge so hard my heart and brain swells to massive sizes makes me so happy that I followed you a while ago. Watching you has really encouraged me to not personally attack people while discussing difficult topics. I know it's hard to deal with people coming at you left and right with pure ignorance, but your supporters are here and we get it. Thanks for being you!! chescaleigh
This is so well-articulated. You don't get frustrated even though you're obviously very passionate about these issues. You don't leave ANYTHING out. Props.
TELL THEM CHESCA!!!!
Sharing this post on The Love Life Of An Asian Guy, a great blog you can find on Facebook and WordPress. We address issues like this all the time. It's a really great blog.
Omg shes black and talking about rascism, her views are correct and everyone should feel bad'
Yeah, exactly. Why not be enlightened about how your behavior can affect others? Grow tf uo
That's one thing I hate hearing people say. So if she was white them you would listen. How often do people say racist things to the white people you know? Or you, for that matter?
quite frequently, its become a running joke with my friends to ask if im fasting because im brown
your nan Glad you understand.
I appreciate you so much and I'm so sorry you keep getting so much hate for telling these kids(and adults for that matter) exactly what they need to hear. You truly are an inspiration and I am SO glad you exist.
chescaleigh do the dang thing! There will always be people who dislike you, but m'am with intellect and compassion like yours there will always be a far greater amount who love you and stand with you. Thank you for being someone I can look up to and learn from in various aspects of life (graphic design in the house :D). Proud of you, enjoy your break!