I think you do great with your unlock videos that’s your niche … but I would leave the detecting review to the guys that know what there talking about. Call me what you want I’m not going to sugar coat anything. Thanks
@@brillero2356 hey I have severe brain injuries I want to try to do this.. but my brain won't Help me on this...its all so confusing.. Want to be successful doing it I don't want to buy one then if figuring out Then wish for one that I out grew..but need to be simple..or get a DVD so I can play it over and over..because my memories disappear ..let me know your the pro at metal detections ...true story
Dang you Merrill you're gonna have us all owning 18 detectors eventually. I'm at six now. You do an incredible job here can't help myself following you. Big Thank you for all your time and effort.
I've given away two machines, both bounty hunters.my fave is my whites prizm IV..had it twenty yrs.my better half bought me a Garrett Ace 300,which btw joined certain components with whites...since pandemic hit, my hunter mode is non existent.
I got the Deus 2 after using the AT Pro with a Tornado and Sharpshooter coils for 5 years. I’ve found a lot of good stuff with it. Deus is exactly what I needed to continue learning and getting better as a relic Hunter. Could have used a Deus a few years ago but I’m glad I waited until 2 came out. I love it.
though I had some problem with sea water It also ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxa-FNYUOM93a388gi9a4brtSCEVmrHgJH land for finding any things very easily. (thought it would work as normal due to it being water proof within certain parts of the detector), on dry land and sand worked well. My first one, so still have lots to learn
I have a Minelab Equinox 800 and I have found with the 10" coil in public parks dimes at over 12" depth and silver dimes even deeper. You just need to know your detector and know what is the best swing speed.
Hello sir. I use the anfibio multi and I'm happy to see that it held up in this comparison. I have used many different machines for the past 45 years and, the multi is the best for depth. I'm hoping to purchase another one before they are all gone. Thanks for your video, I think you do a great job as always. Your passion and honesty seem very apparent
Great way to show the power of each machine. I am a single parent of 4 kids at home and looking to buy a detector. I have a cheap Amazon detector but want a better one within my budget. I have decided to buy the Simplex+, even though I had already made the decision prior. But you have concreted the decision for me. Thank you for this video, and all the others you post.
More than anything metal detecting is my mindfulness activity. Anything I find is a bonus. The simplex is spectacular! It is the most bang for your buck out there. It will pay for itself in a few months! I wish you the best of luck! Thank you for watching!
Great review, Merrill. I own the Deus 2. I am deeply satisfied with it. My proof of it's performance is in all the silver I am pulling out of fields that have been hit hard with a Nox 800 and a Deus 1 for the last 18 months. These fields have been gridded multiple times and in different directions and are full of iron nails. The Deus 2 is still pulling coins out at depth. The Nox is a very, very good machine but unfortunately, my bum shoulder was the reason I went with the XP. Pricey? Yes, but shoulder surgery would be pricier if I continued to aggravate it with a heavy machine like the Nox. Everyone has their own checklist when it comes to purchasing merchandise. The Deus 2 price point is tough to swallow, but it checked almost all the boxes for me. And it will continue to get better as XP fine tunes things.
Interesting comment on your bum shoulder. I had a shoulder cuff injury and swing my Nox over the past year has given it loads more flexibility. Apart from that it's also delivered some awesome relics and hammerd's.👍
Btw I'm so glad all the Garret lovers didn't convince me to buy a ace instead of a vanquish. I've already got a box full of silver coins,.gold bracelet, silver ring, silver earring in the 3 weeks of using the vanquish. Definitely best for the price.
Great vid dude! I love the fact that you used real world conditions for this test. Too often people set these detectors up to 'beep' on a target but there is no way you could hunt with them and the settings they have dialed up. Oh i miss my White's! trying to get a handle on the Vanquish 540. Definetely deep but they took the VDI section and halved it from what White's was displaying. I will get their. It only takes 1 gold ring to boost confidence. Take care Bro!
Merrill, you are the bomb. Your videos are the most entertaining, and educational videos on the net. It is easy to see, you must spent a lot of time making these videos, and I for one really appreciate it. Thank you!!!
Nice one Merrill! With the CTX and etrac you could have used ferrous audio rather than conductive audio to take care of the "wild in the field" problem.
best part for me ( Icall that a No... Wait wait hmmm? wait ok is a YES (simplex) the plex always push a little something more ,to be part of the crew .i love my Plex . nice demo Merrill keep swing those coil
You raised the real question about value for money relating to detectors. I would raise another issue and that is build quality, especially relating to the nox. When you consider the cost of these units, you would expect the coil attachment point, the arm cuff and shift lock mechanism to be solid and robust. I see so many detectorists having to buy after market parts to reinforce minelad's design or replacing parts from other brands, simply because the nox appears to have some build design faults. This is not a rant against minelab as I have all minelab products, but the newer stuff appears to have dropped in but quality.......Your thoughts?
I don't have a nox, but it sure seems common among the nox youtubers for the battery / charging system to go wonky. As a Garrett user, it's all about the cracked coils. gotta be so careful around rocks. And a cracked coil can potentially fry the electronics... But they do have great customer service, they fixed my AT Max when I went through this, replacing the coil and board for free, despite it being a couple months past warranty.
Only one comment I have really. Great job by the way. I do notice the machines with slower recovery(older in most cases) are not doing as good in this test. Hitting but not great. One mistake people often make is thinking lower reactivity is better for depth, and it is but ONLY in clean ground. Meaning no other targets within the coil width. This is pretty dirty ground so a lower recovery speed may not always be better. Targets may bleed into each other during your swing, as in before one target sounds off you're hitting the next which can corrupt the tones. I know the Legend may have been set too low for those conditions, the NOX I'm not sure about. The vanquish doesn't have recovery but it does have adjustable iron bias which may have helped it out. The D1 was sketchy with iron buzz but I don't know a lot about them and the D2 sounded bad up close and amazing far away which was weird. The older minelabs were mostly disappointing but I don't know much about those either. Now the problem with everything I said above is......while I'm sure some machines can be tuned in to hit a KNOWN target.......how will they fair if you just turn them on in a strange location with unknown targets in the ground? That's why I prefer most machines be tested in the stock modes first and then adjusted afterward. That way newbies know what they're getting and experienced hobbyists know what they're getting. Either way this was a great test.
Good video Merrill. You should leave that dime exactly where it is get out after a good rain and soil still wet. I'm thinking results may be different. It would be very interesting to see if soil conditions alone with no other variable changed dramatically changes the outcome.
My personal opinion, (which don't mean much) the Nox 800 is the best bang for my buck. If you are only going to have one, it will cover most of your bases. Thanks for the video...
I do like your metal detecting videos mainly because in Cleveland all parks are loaded with modern and old trash so they hit home! Keep up the good work I'm learning how to use the Deus 2 in it now the Nox 800 was easier!
Very interesting test. As a metal detecting hobby goes for me, this test confirms what an outstanding value the Simplex represents. I'm impressed by what I've been seeing with the new Legend but, does it merit an extra $400? For my purposes it's a no. Then, considering that the Deus and Equinox are just out of the question. Again, for me this is just a hobby, I'm not looking to make money or create a new profession. This is kind of like comparing a $10 hammer to a $100 hammer.
Your logic makes sense. You can indeed be formidable at 250 dollars with the Simplex. The one area that I say you would be behind on with the simplex is saltwater beach. Otherwise it’s phenomenal.
The simplex definitely holds a candle to the advanced let alone intermediate catagory detectors (enjoying mine), that legend looks like it could go big with nokta making the right adjustments!
For me, I am a silver hunter mad man. I have a goal, find $200.00 face value in silver coins and I will pay anything for the best chance of finding silver coins. That said, I bought the Deus II and am finding silver coins (wheaties too) in places I have hunted before. The Deus II is great. I am 76 years old, so I don't have much metal detecting time left and I need to have the detector that will give me the best chance to reach my goal. I just hunt nickels, copper pennies, dimes, and quarters. Today I got three silver coins in parkways I've hunted before with my old detectors. Yesterday I got five silvers, four dimes and one quarter and eight wheat pennies, all in a park I've hunted before.
That’s a very nice test because it is like 2 tests in 1: depth and iron masking. I’ve done similar tests like this and I want to do the same with Deus2..this is a pure iron masking test because ferrous and non ferrous are not at the same level as a simple separation test. Very good! 👍
Thanks Merrill, your tireless enthusiasm is a lesson to us all! And still… I blame you for helping me get my first detector… and you are surely helping me select my second one too!!! 👍😁
Great tests but the simplex in park modes respond better with a quicker swing due to the faster recovery speed, bet the simplex would’ve smacked it better with a faster tighter swing, the simplex competes with some of the best, sometimes outperforms in the right hands!
I use the vanquish 540 it's an amazing machine it'll even detect raw nuggets try that with the other metal detectors see if your other metal detectors will detect a gold nugget like the vanquish 540 the 540 also picks up larger targets up to 4 ft to 5 ft deep it's an amazing machine on jewelry mode
@@a-guitar2734 I would agree found that 7oz nugget in Alaska last year. I love mine have over 3000 hours on it. Just was using those as examples but the nox is a winner as well.
The Deus 2 likes to be swung a little faster than one might expect. One thing I would also recommend is run in 5 tones keep your discrimination no higher than 6. I do 5.5 and it's an animal in iron. You can always adjust your lower tone break to 20 or 30 and set the frequency down to 100. It really makes a difference in iron infested areas. Another option for iron infested areas is to use relic program and set the IAR to 5. This will give a clear iron tone for the iron and a good pitch tone for the rest. Note this does not work well in non-ferrous trashy areas. Best for areas like your garden where it's mostly iron junk
You didn’t have the Garrett set up properly for a heavy iron area. Don’t discriminate any and turn iron off. Love watching this video. I learned some good stuff today.
Well I own noxs. A 800 and a 600 for the kiddo. I also have a deus 2 now with about 100 hours. It is the deepest machine outside a Gpx I have ever seen. Just unbelievable. I haven’t picked up my noxs since February 15 the day I received my d2. I have almost switched back to the nox a few times. But I am now feeling the deus 2. It’s legit.
That's what I'm finding out myself!.....It is not a all hype machine!........Seeing this for myself caused me to sell off my two E-800's......Been at this game a long time & I don't believe I stepped myself backwards!
The Garrett AT PRO should be used in PRO-ZERO Mode and it works like a champ in that setting…if you don’t want to hear the iron just raise the discrimination level to 35-40.
In PERFECT condition my simplex and SNIPER COIL has found 1 matron around 1.5ft down... And YES in BAD condition in Lucky to get NO VDI and slight harmonic silver at 9". Park 2, SIMPLEX and SNIPER COIL is KING IMO
Great and awesome video,! nobody ever made a video of this caliber, thanks for such an amazing video, going to help everyone, your the man!, Love to see the whites beach hunter.
I get a repeatable signal of any kind I am digging just found a 57 Rosie with a 8 inch coil in iron and once in awhile the Omega 8000 was showing 82 , i dug 3 rotted iron nails and dime off to the side of the hole, but i knew it was there.
i just watched your other video on beginner detectors and considering the simplex as my first ever purchase. i just now realized that it comes with multiple coil sizes in different options, which would you recommend for a beginner hunting parks and such?
good video as a amateur metal detector I only have a couple of machines but I noticed that on one of the machines you used the setting was not optimized and on other you set them up better to succeed. The AT Pro for one can be set to eliminate the iron completely, I use this machine on very iron filled parks in Texas and if I am just looking for silver I have great success at up to 12 inches. Thanks for the demo though
There is a way to turn the iron audio off or notch it out on the AT Pro but it doesn’t get rid of the effects of iron . Soil affects depth but the AT pro will not come close to 12 inches on a dime sized target on an air test. I say this respectfully. Video responses are welcome and I am always humble enough to say I’m wrong!
Great video. I would also like to see the AT MAX which is the deepest of the AT SERIES in its all metal mode. The max has an all metal mode thats very deep. The ATpro does not. The Max in all metal can go 4 to 6 inches deeper than the pro. I have air tested nickels at about 17 to 18 inches. If you can include that detector in some other video i haven't seen yet you will pick up alot of garrett detectorist out there on your videos.
I use a simplex. I live in an old farm house on a large old farm. I've found 2 silver coins so far both just like that. There are 30 nails/square inch in the yard so I dig any squeak. Really wanna upgrade to the legend but dunno if I can justify the investment.
Dug two clad quarters yesterday at 7 inches 3 inch he’s apart in the Georgia clay with my simplex. Filled the hole back in but got another 80-85 signal. Open the hole back up and got an old 60s coke can another 3 inches down. Love the simplex but gonna add the Legend soon.
It might have. But this is about relativity. How good was the response of the Garrett AT-Pro compared with the field. I am rooting for Garrett. Competition is a good thing. But the truth is that right now you are at a disadvantage with an AT-pro. It’s true that familiarity and experience with the machine is one of the most important factors but I would argue that ceiling is also. That machines ceiling is clearly lower than others tested here.
Please can you show concretely buttons that must to use for determining depth of metal buried?And how this depth show in your detector,because you moves so fast ?!
Hi Merrill. As a Simplex user my best, most productive searches - in fields and pastures - seem to be with Park1 and iron off as there's not a great density of targets/pollution where I go. It's slower recovery than Park2 which I'd use in trashy places or gardens to coin shoot. On the Park1 test you did, going on the VDI with iron on, I would not dig it: the low numbers would make me think it's iron. When you took off the iron the variable VDI would make me think it's foil left by farmers or hunters. However if I had a good-lock on the signal and not much going on I might dig but it would be 50-50 (depending on the patch beforehand). I think the Simplex is very capable having got hundreds of coins in 2 years, but now, although we don't have Mercury Dimes in France, I do wonder how many good targets I walked away from. P.S. Btw, I believe that it's only on all-metal (or beach?) mode that you need to ground balance and there's no Field 3.
Very nice test have you ever tried the Rutis Alter 71? I heard they were very deep detectors so I bought one with extra coils but have yet to even take it out of the box, busy with other projects.
I have kind of a dumb question. I am not a 100% novice because many years ago I got a used Radio Shack and played with it enough to know while it is not a good detector it will work in limited ways. But now I am retired and going to travel in a converted bus and want to get a GOOD detector. Yes, I will stay with it as a hobby as long as I am able. So A more expensive machine could be acceptable. What would you advise? MY qualifications are 1) as waterproof as possible, I was born and raised in Fla soI will be beaching it or maybe into the water 10 to 15 ft, 2) all metal capable, On beaches would be looking for gold and silver but in ghost towns in the desert would be looking for all metals. So, with maybe as much as $2000 could be budgeted but cheaper would be good, LOL I know you dont push one detector over others because it puts money in your pocket. Interested in YOUR OPINION.
I became XP’s ambassador for a reason. I have owned 23 detectors. Do you think I would want to compromise my Detecting and take something substandard? To me the best metal detector on the market is the XP Deus 2. I put it as the highest capability rating on my website long before becoming ambassador. Dad is my honest advice.
Hello, this video puts a lot in perspective. Taking the time to do things really right takes time and careful thought. You have done both. I own the Nokta Anfibio, Deus 2 and the White V3i . Just wondering why you don't own or test any Whites...please be straightforward I can take it lol. Thanks !
I own a beach hunter 300 and love it. I was having problems on the test day because the coil got broken in my trunk. I got a replacement since. But my full thoughts are written about it on my website www.iratemetaldetectors.com/
Love the amount of work and research you have put into these machines. I would really like your overall assessment of the Nokta Gold Kruzer. I know it is targeted for gold, but I'm using it across the board. Thanks! BTW it does very well with deep targets. But it does find everything including can salad. ;D
Hey Merrill. Love your videos. Have you thought of adding a Golden Mask detector to your collection? I just received a Golden Mask 6 from Bulgaria and it found a small ear ring and some coins that my Simplex missed in a tot lot. I would love to see an American UA-camr review a Golden Mask.
There was also the solar flare that could have caused some interference on some of the machines some people were saying their machines were acting drunk.
Simplex+ 2.78 ... forget it. Dime at 3"? Maybe. In quartz sand at the beach max. is about 5", less than half the width of the coil. Unless there is an update its just a throw away.
Merrill, I have to weigh in. I had "The Huter GT" program my Deus II to my liking. My idea of a great coin shooting program is, Do Not Discriminate, just adjust the volume so you don't hear anything (lower the volume) except nickels, copper pennies, dimes, quarters etc. Now I cannot believe how many silver coins I am digging in places I have hunted before with my NOX 800. I absolutely love my Deus II. That being said, I lost the coil cover in heavy brush, and now I cannot charge my coil. I am struggling to order a new one. When I try at one site, it won't let me order two? It's now Sunday and I still don't have one ordered much less two. The good thing, I have my NOX 800 back-up.
NEED ADVICE if Imay...... Man I feel much better after watching this video at taking a risk and paying 1000 for a equinox 800. I'm totally a noob and ordered all the gear I need (so many cool gadgets I went overboard I think lol) and have studied all I can and am sooooo ready for my first time out. Waiting to take care of some medical issues soon as should start detecting in May. I'm close to Cincinnati OH and would so appreciate any advice you veterans out there could share would be much appreciated especially knowledge of my area around me. Hoping to find historical places like battlefields or wherever my 800 leads me lol👍 This channel is absolutely amazing btw. Blessings to you all and your loved ones too.
Just study every metal detecting forum you can find. Locate old swimming holes and get in the water with it. If you find the right one you`ll load up on gold and silver. See Gigmaster`s latest few videos and his older ones with the 800. Go to tot lots on days when it`s drizzling and look for coins. Dig any possible gold jewelry signals though. Try to get permission to hunt old yards. Place an AD once you`re comfortable with it offering to help locate lost rings.
Garrett AT pro a very good detector in freshwater lakes after Equinox 800 I take out old coins and modern and brass chains, stainless steel and copper rings greetings from Poland Seba from AT pro
I enjoyed the video. Great info. I am now in the process of buying a detector. The two that I had been looking at were the garrett ace 300 and the vanquish 440. What are your thoughts.
I would hold off and get the vanquish 540. I personally don't have a lot of cash and research like mad before a purchase. My last detector was a no namer foreign detector with a massive 14 inch coil and it actually worked brilliantly, but on getting the vanquish 540 I am finding far smaller targets. Actually the hardest part of using the vanquish 540 early on was thinking it was picking up false targets because I couldn't even see some of them. I am using vanquish with larger coil and on relic mode. I watch a lot of videos on detecting and obviously the pro people use the high end stuff but I have seen a lot of them give good reviews on the vanquish 540.
its much more than the detector-mind body and ground conditions matter very much. If youre only depending on your machine then youre not a true treasure hunter
I’ve heard that metal detecting works well with the force from Star Wars and dowsing rods. A good machine will enhance your understanding of what is in the ground, through audio and visual inference.
My buddy hunts with D2. Me a Nox600. He's found stuff behind me and find stuff behind him. Made a big test garden and they both were outstanding. $1000 difference in price. D2 is just a little lighter. To me for the money it's hard to beat the Nox 600. If money is no object D2.
Honestly, I buy and test metal detectors that I see being used by others on UA-cam and live in parks and beaches. I own one bounty hunter detector. They are very entry level. Other companies have moved in to simultaneous multi frequency (Minelab, Nokta, Garrett, XP). Even Fisher has made an advanced pulse device. Bounty Hunters would get obliterated. Please forgive my bluntness. I do not mean it to be rude. Their business model seems to be entry level detectors with entry level prices. This is all self bought so I have to draw the line somewhere.
Great video mate👍 will help people looking at buying their first metal detector🤗 see you on the next hunt💍👍
Michael Oliver in the house!!!!
@@MetalDetectingNYC what firmware version does the deus 2 have in the video? which program did you use?
Great question Billero
I think you do great with your unlock videos that’s your niche … but I would leave the detecting review to the guys that know what there talking about. Call me what you want I’m not going to sugar coat anything. Thanks
@@brillero2356 hey I have severe brain injuries
I want to try to do this.. but my brain won't
Help me on this...its all so confusing..
Want to be successful doing it
I don't want to buy one then if figuring out
Then wish for one that I out grew..but need to be simple..or get a DVD so I can play it over and over..because my memories disappear ..let me know your the pro at metal detections ...true story
Dang you Merrill you're gonna have us all owning 18 detectors eventually. I'm at six now. You do an incredible job here can't help myself following you. Big Thank you for all your time and effort.
Lol thank you so much Trident Trident! We love metal detecting here!
I've given away two machines, both bounty hunters.my fave is my whites prizm IV..had it twenty yrs.my better half bought me a Garrett Ace 300,which btw joined certain components with whites...since pandemic hit, my hunter mode is non existent.
I got the Deus 2 after using the AT Pro with a Tornado and Sharpshooter coils for 5 years. I’ve found a lot of good stuff with it. Deus is exactly what I needed to continue learning and getting better as a relic Hunter. Could have used a Deus a few years ago but I’m glad I waited until 2 came out. I love it.
You are living up to what you want to do with this channel by keeping it educational. Thanks Merrill!
Thanks Johnny O
though I had some problem with sea water It also ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxa-FNYUOM93a388gi9a4brtSCEVmrHgJH land for finding any things very easily. (thought it would work as normal due to it being water proof within certain parts of the detector), on dry land and sand worked well. My first one, so still have lots to learn
Good video Merrill. Depth test are nice but the main thing is, get out and have fun. It's always interesting to see what you find.
I have a Minelab Equinox 800 and I have found with the 10" coil in public parks dimes at over 12" depth and silver dimes even deeper. You just need to know your detector and know what is the best swing speed.
Hello sir. I use the anfibio multi and I'm happy to see that it held up in this comparison. I have used many different machines for the past 45 years and, the multi is the best for depth. I'm hoping to purchase another one before they are all gone. Thanks for your video, I think you do a great job as always. Your passion and honesty seem very apparent
I chuckled when you brought out the ace 250.
Nice. Would love to see more testing like this. It’s fun to see what the limits are.
Plan on doing the same at 10 and such with varying conditions.
Exactly!
Include a Quest Q30 if you can , we would like to see some myths breaking...
I like these types of comparison test. Thanks!
Thank you
Great way to show the power of each machine. I am a single parent of 4 kids at home and looking to buy a detector. I have a cheap Amazon detector but want a better one within my budget. I have decided to buy the Simplex+, even though I had already made the decision prior. But you have concreted the decision for me. Thank you for this video, and all the others you post.
More than anything metal detecting is my mindfulness activity. Anything I find is a bonus. The simplex is spectacular! It is the most bang for your buck out there. It will pay for itself in a few months! I wish you the best of luck! Thank you for watching!
Great review, Merrill. I own the Deus 2. I am deeply satisfied with it. My proof of it's performance is in all the silver I am pulling out of fields that have been hit hard with a Nox 800 and a Deus 1 for the last 18 months. These fields have been gridded multiple times and in different directions and are full of iron nails. The Deus 2 is still pulling coins out at depth. The Nox is a very, very good machine but unfortunately, my bum shoulder was the reason I went with the XP. Pricey? Yes, but shoulder surgery would be pricier if I continued to aggravate it with a heavy machine like the Nox. Everyone has their own checklist when it comes to purchasing merchandise. The Deus 2 price point is tough to swallow, but it checked almost all the boxes for me. And it will continue to get better as XP fine tunes things.
Full tones sucks currently on the D2
@@DirtDynasty I don't use FT so I cannot comment on that.
Interesting comment on your bum shoulder. I had a shoulder cuff injury and swing my Nox over the past year has given it loads more flexibility. Apart from that it's also delivered some awesome relics and hammerd's.👍
has anyone watched Sid Perry's last video?i beat at depth deus2, nokta macro legend and nox 800
Btw I'm so glad all the Garret lovers didn't convince me to buy a ace instead of a vanquish. I've already got a box full of silver coins,.gold bracelet, silver ring, silver earring in the 3 weeks of using the vanquish. Definitely best for the price.
Great vid dude! I love the fact that you used real world conditions for this test. Too often people set these detectors up to 'beep' on a target but there is no way you could hunt with them and the settings they have dialed up. Oh i miss my White's! trying to get a handle on the Vanquish 540. Definetely deep but they took the VDI section and halved it from what White's was displaying. I will get their. It only takes 1 gold ring to boost confidence. Take care Bro!
Yes. I miss the target ID # resolution of the XLT (-95 - +95).
Merrill, you are the bomb. Your videos are the most entertaining, and educational videos on the net. It is easy to see, you must spent a lot of time making these videos, and I for one really appreciate it. Thank you!!!
Absolutely honored Harry!
Nice one Merrill! With the CTX and etrac you could have used ferrous audio rather than conductive audio to take care of the "wild in the field" problem.
Good point! Will try that !
best part for me ( Icall that a No... Wait wait hmmm? wait ok is a YES (simplex) the plex always push a little something more ,to be part of the crew .i love my Plex . nice demo Merrill keep swing those coil
Thank you
You raised the real question about value for money relating to detectors. I would raise another issue and that is build quality, especially relating to the nox. When you consider the cost of these units, you would expect the coil attachment point, the arm cuff and shift lock mechanism to be solid and robust. I see so many detectorists having to buy after market parts to reinforce minelad's design or replacing parts from other brands, simply because the nox appears to have some build design faults. This is not a rant against minelab as I have all minelab products, but the newer stuff appears to have dropped in but quality.......Your thoughts?
I don't have a nox, but it sure seems common among the nox youtubers for the battery / charging system to go wonky.
As a Garrett user, it's all about the cracked coils. gotta be so careful around rocks. And a cracked coil can potentially fry the electronics... But they do have great customer service, they fixed my AT Max when I went through this, replacing the coil and board for free, despite it being a couple months past warranty.
My thoughts are practically verbatim to yours on my website iratemetaldetectors.com . And I do factor that in my ratings.
Only one comment I have really. Great job by the way. I do notice the machines with slower recovery(older in most cases) are not doing as good in this test. Hitting but not great. One mistake people often make is thinking lower reactivity is better for depth, and it is but ONLY in clean ground. Meaning no other targets within the coil width. This is pretty dirty ground so a lower recovery speed may not always be better. Targets may bleed into each other during your swing, as in before one target sounds off you're hitting the next which can corrupt the tones. I know the Legend may have been set too low for those conditions, the NOX I'm not sure about. The vanquish doesn't have recovery but it does have adjustable iron bias which may have helped it out. The D1 was sketchy with iron buzz but I don't know a lot about them and the D2 sounded bad up close and amazing far away which was weird. The older minelabs were mostly disappointing but I don't know much about those either. Now the problem with everything I said above is......while I'm sure some machines can be tuned in to hit a KNOWN target.......how will they fair if you just turn them on in a strange location with unknown targets in the ground? That's why I prefer most machines be tested in the stock modes first and then adjusted afterward. That way newbies know what they're getting and experienced hobbyists know what they're getting. Either way this was a great test.
Noted! True and great advice!
Good video Merrill. You should leave that dime exactly where it is get out after a good rain and soil still wet. I'm thinking results may be different. It would be very interesting to see if soil conditions alone with no other variable changed dramatically changes the outcome.
It does
A lot of commitment from you for this channel. Good work.
My personal opinion, (which don't mean much) the Nox 800 is the best bang for my buck. If you are only going to have one, it will cover most of your bases. Thanks for the video...
I did a similiar test with my old tesoro silver umax today at 9 inches , it found my 1907 Barber dime with ease
Nice video I have a Vanquish 540 Pro pack, I have an Equinox 700 coming Going to be interesting to see how much of an upgrade I really got.
How do you like the 700?
Coil size should be mentioned. Good test. Just the right size target and depth to push the better detectors to their limits.
I do like your metal detecting videos mainly because in Cleveland all parks are loaded with modern and old trash so they hit home! Keep up the good work I'm learning how to use the Deus 2 in it now the Nox 800 was easier!
I appreciate that!
This is my favorite kind of detector video. I like test videos better than live hunt videos. Thanks for the information
Thank you Merrill, this is one of the best depth reviews I've seen so far!
Very interesting test. As a metal detecting hobby goes for me, this test confirms what an outstanding value the Simplex represents. I'm impressed by what I've been seeing with the new Legend but, does it merit an extra $400? For my purposes it's a no. Then, considering that the Deus and Equinox are just out of the question. Again, for me this is just a hobby, I'm not looking to make money or create a new profession. This is kind of like comparing a $10 hammer to a $100 hammer.
Your logic makes sense. You can indeed be formidable at 250 dollars with the Simplex. The one area that I say you would be behind on with the simplex is saltwater beach. Otherwise it’s phenomenal.
The simplex definitely holds a candle to the advanced let alone intermediate catagory detectors (enjoying mine), that legend looks like it could go big with nokta making the right adjustments!
For me, I am a silver hunter mad man. I have a goal, find $200.00 face value in silver coins and I will pay anything for the best chance of finding silver coins. That said, I bought the Deus II and am finding silver coins (wheaties too) in places I have hunted before. The Deus II is great. I am 76 years old, so I don't have much metal detecting time left and I need to have the detector that will give me the best chance to reach my goal. I just hunt nickels, copper pennies, dimes, and quarters. Today I got three silver coins in parkways I've hunted before with my old detectors. Yesterday I got five silvers, four dimes and one quarter and eight wheat pennies, all in a park I've hunted before.
Another great video - please try the Simplex again in field! Should make a difference ...
Sure but that was one of the modes I did try before and during filming
At that DEPTH it might be JUST a high harmonic with no VDI... BUT I WOULD NOTICE IT AND DIG
Definitely love my vanquish, and you definitely get used to being able to hit Right on top of the targets.
That’s a very nice test because it is like 2 tests in 1: depth and iron masking. I’ve done similar tests like this and I want to do the same with Deus2..this is a pure iron masking test because ferrous and non ferrous are not at the same level as a simple separation test. Very good! 👍
Thanks Merrill, your tireless enthusiasm is a lesson to us all! And still… I blame you for helping me get my first detector… and you are surely helping me select my second one too!!! 👍😁
THank you Vossie!!!!
EXCELLENT testing sir, thank you 👍
XPD2, lots of potential.
Great tests but the simplex in park modes respond better with a quicker swing due to the faster recovery speed, bet the simplex would’ve smacked it better with a faster tighter swing, the simplex competes with some of the best, sometimes outperforms in the right hands!
Thank you Merrill...a fairly significant video...reasonable comparative analysis. My eyes have been opened regarding the Deus II...
Thanks for the comparative testing. It was a good reference for me.
I use the vanquish 540 it's an amazing machine it'll even detect raw nuggets try that with the other metal detectors see if your other metal detectors will detect a gold nugget like the vanquish 540 the 540 also picks up larger targets up to 4 ft to 5 ft deep it's an amazing machine on jewelry mode
I use the Vanquish 540 also.
Merrill, did you try the Vanquish 540 depth test in jewelry mode? I suspect that mode would detect the Mercury dime.
The gpx and the gold monster would crush the 540.
The nox 800 has a good gold mode. It matches of not surpasses the monster in mineralized gold field grounds
With the 6 inch coil
@@a-guitar2734 I would agree found that 7oz nugget in Alaska last year. I love mine have over 3000 hours on it. Just was using those as examples but the nox is a winner as well.
For a beginner or part time hobbyist on a budget I always recommend the Nokta Simplex. Waterproof and a darn good machine.
This is THE best test video I’ve seen
Wow, thanks!
Nice job, excellent review,,,
Glad you liked it
The Deus 2 likes to be swung a little faster than one might expect. One thing I would also recommend is run in 5 tones keep your discrimination no higher than 6. I do 5.5 and it's an animal in iron. You can always adjust your lower tone break to 20 or 30 and set the frequency down to 100. It really makes a difference in iron infested areas.
Another option for iron infested areas is to use relic program and set the IAR to 5. This will give a clear iron tone for the iron and a good pitch tone for the rest. Note this does not work well in non-ferrous trashy areas. Best for areas like your garden where it's mostly iron junk
I'm seeing same on swing speed of d2 to slow does what I just saw to worse
Thems some good advice. I concur
By far the best person for learning detectors.thanks Merrill
You didn’t have the Garrett set up properly for a heavy iron area. Don’t discriminate any and turn iron off. Love watching this video. I learned some good stuff today.
Think he doesn't like Garrett, never gave them a chance
As always very informative video and tests. Thank you for your efforts
Well I own noxs. A 800 and a 600 for the kiddo. I also have a deus 2 now with about 100 hours. It is the deepest machine outside a Gpx I have ever seen. Just unbelievable. I haven’t picked up my noxs since February 15 the day I received my d2. I have almost switched back to the nox a few times. But I am now feeling the deus 2. It’s legit.
By the way. Big minelab lover.
Also Merrill that was an amazing test. Very very impressed. The legend did well too. Great video.
That's what I'm finding out myself!.....It is not a all hype machine!........Seeing this for myself caused me to sell off my two E-800's......Been at this game a long time & I don't believe I stepped myself backwards!
The Garrett AT PRO should be used in PRO-ZERO Mode and it works like a champ in that setting…if you don’t want to hear the iron just raise the discrimination level to 35-40.
In PERFECT condition my simplex and SNIPER COIL has found 1 matron around 1.5ft down... And YES in BAD condition in Lucky to get NO VDI and slight harmonic silver at 9". Park 2, SIMPLEX and SNIPER COIL is KING IMO
Awesome Stuff Man.. Now I will be digging deeper targets with the Vanquish and 600... Take my chances and see if it brings me luck..
Especially that nox 600
I'm thinking if a Garrett AT Max would pass the test?
Great testing. Thanks for sharing your info
You’re welcome
Great video. I've pulled a draped bust with the nox 600 at 13inches depth is big for me.
Tjat anfibio was a very clean and clear hit
Great and awesome video,! nobody ever made a video of this caliber, thanks for such an amazing video, going to help everyone, your the man!, Love to see the whites beach hunter.
Thank you Jaime!
The iron makes it more similar to the mineralization that we found on most of terrains
I get a repeatable signal of any kind I am digging just found a 57 Rosie with a 8 inch coil in iron and once in awhile the Omega 8000 was showing 82 , i dug 3 rotted iron nails and dime off to the side of the hole, but i knew it was there.
Nice vid I glad you did a dime and not a quarter.
Thank you
great comparison video, thanks Merrill
Thank you
i just watched your other video on beginner detectors and considering the simplex as my first ever purchase. i just now realized that it comes with multiple coil sizes in different options, which would you recommend for a beginner hunting parks and such?
Hey i have seen all your videos and they are great and honest.good job
good video as a amateur metal detector I only have a couple of machines but I noticed that on one of the machines you used the setting was not optimized and on other you set them up better to succeed. The AT Pro for one can be set to eliminate the iron completely, I use this machine on very iron filled parks in Texas and if I am just looking for silver I have great success at up to 12 inches. Thanks for the demo though
There is a way to turn the iron audio off or notch it out on the AT Pro but it doesn’t get rid of the effects of iron . Soil affects depth but the AT pro will not come close to 12 inches on a dime sized target on an air test. I say this respectfully. Video responses are welcome and I am always humble enough to say I’m wrong!
Great video. I would also like to see the AT MAX which is the deepest of the AT SERIES in its all metal mode. The max has an all metal mode thats very deep. The ATpro does not. The Max in all metal can go 4 to 6 inches deeper than the pro. I have air tested nickels at about 17 to 18 inches. If you can include that detector in some other video i haven't seen yet you will pick up alot of garrett detectorist out there on your videos.
I notice that you don't have or test any First Texas Products detectors like the Fisher F75 for an example, what is the reason ?
I use a simplex. I live in an old farm house on a large old farm. I've found 2 silver coins so far both just like that. There are 30 nails/square inch in the yard so I dig any squeak. Really wanna upgrade to the legend but dunno if I can justify the investment.
My full write ups on all machines are at www.iratemetaldetectors.com/
Great👍 stuff! I can make my decision based on the information presented! Thanks man for having the balls to test these machines in real-time.
Dug two clad quarters yesterday at 7 inches 3 inch he’s apart in the Georgia clay with my simplex. Filled the hole back in but got another 80-85 signal. Open the hole back up and got an old 60s coke can another 3 inches down. Love the simplex but gonna add the Legend soon.
Didn't the garret at pro flash 80 on the screen? That"s a dime! Very easy to miss though with such a weak response. 8:01 pause to see 80.
It might have. But this is about relativity. How good was the response of the Garrett AT-Pro compared with the field. I am rooting for Garrett. Competition is a good thing. But the truth is that right now you are at a disadvantage with an AT-pro. It’s true that familiarity and experience with the machine is one of the most important factors but I would argue that ceiling is also. That machines ceiling is clearly lower than others tested here.
look at the cursor on the 3030 it's definitely a dig
Yep
Great job I enjoyed your video on test on the metal detector and have a great Day.
Put cut a plug program in which is Andy's and do the cross checking method with Etrac
Please can you show concretely buttons that must to use for determining depth of metal buried?And how this depth show in your detector,because you moves so fast ?!
Hi Merrill. As a Simplex user my best, most productive searches - in fields and pastures - seem to be with Park1 and iron off as there's not a great density of targets/pollution where I go.
It's slower recovery than Park2 which I'd use in trashy places or gardens to coin shoot.
On the Park1 test you did, going on the VDI with iron on, I would not dig it: the low numbers would make me think it's iron. When you took off the iron the variable VDI would make me think it's foil left by farmers or hunters. However if I had a good-lock on the signal and not much going on I might dig but it would be 50-50 (depending on the patch beforehand). I think the Simplex is very capable having got hundreds of coins in 2 years, but now, although we don't have Mercury Dimes in France, I do wonder how many good targets I walked away from.
P.S. Btw, I believe that it's only on all-metal (or beach?) mode that you need to ground balance and there's no Field 3.
G R E A T test, thank you!
Would be interesting to see same test with Manticore😉, Goldmonster1000 as well with one of PulsInduction..
Very nice test have you ever tried the Rutis Alter 71? I heard they were very deep detectors so I bought one with extra coils but have yet to even take it out of the box, busy with other projects.
would the at gold perform even slightly better than the at pro he used in the test?
My ace 250 wil do 9.5 inches if you set it up properly but my cheapest amazon special will also do it but you have to set it up properly.
I have kind of a dumb question. I am not a 100% novice because many years ago I got a used Radio Shack and played with it enough to know while it is not a good detector it will work in limited ways. But now I am retired and going to travel in a converted bus and want to get a GOOD detector. Yes, I will stay with it as a hobby as long as I am able. So A more expensive machine could be acceptable. What would you advise? MY qualifications are 1) as waterproof as possible, I was born and raised in Fla soI will be beaching it or maybe into the water 10 to 15 ft, 2) all metal capable, On beaches would be looking for gold and silver but in ghost towns in the desert would be looking for all metals. So, with maybe as much as $2000 could be budgeted but cheaper would be good, LOL I know you dont push one detector over others because it puts money in your pocket. Interested in YOUR OPINION.
I became XP’s ambassador for a reason. I have owned 23 detectors. Do you think I would want to compromise my Detecting and take something substandard? To me the best metal detector on the market is the XP Deus 2. I put it as the highest capability rating on my website long before becoming ambassador. Dad is my honest advice.
Great test in Real conditions, love IT. Do you think the nox with the 15' coil Will beat the Deus II?
Hello, this video puts a lot in perspective. Taking the time to do things really right takes time and careful thought. You have done both. I own the Nokta Anfibio, Deus 2 and the White V3i . Just wondering why you don't own or test any Whites...please be straightforward I can take it lol. Thanks !
I own a beach hunter 300 and love it. I was having problems on the test day because the coil got broken in my trunk. I got a replacement since. But my full thoughts are written about it on my website www.iratemetaldetectors.com/
Sandles and socks, you the man. White socks to boot. I bow in your presence.
LOL Thank you!
With your detecting . Have you ever tried the 2 rods bent into an "L" ?
Called "Devining" ???
Holding one in each hand they will cross over metal...
That was fun but I wish you had some First Texas top dogs to test too!
Me too!
i wish you use a atmax on your test . .....awesome test...
Me too. That is Garrett’s best machine I sense but I’ve never used one. I know people who won’t give it up.
Love the amount of work and research you have put into these machines. I would really like your overall assessment of the Nokta Gold Kruzer. I know it is targeted for gold, but I'm using it across the board. Thanks!
BTW it does very well with deep targets. But it does find everything including can salad. ;D
Hey Merrill. Love your videos. Have you thought of adding a Golden Mask detector to your collection? I just received a Golden Mask 6 from Bulgaria and it found a small ear ring and some coins that my Simplex missed in a tot lot. I would love to see an American UA-camr review a Golden Mask.
I appreciate the suggestion. I have to look at budget and such but it’s an interesting detector.
There was also the solar flare that could have caused some interference on some of the machines some people were saying their machines were acting drunk.
Simplex+ 2.78 ... forget it. Dime at 3"? Maybe. In quartz sand at the beach max. is about 5", less
than half the width of the coil. Unless there is an update its just a
throw away.
Simplex at a saltwater beach is overmatched. That’s where simultaneous multi frequency or PI shines.
Merrill, I have to weigh in. I had "The Huter GT" program my Deus II to my liking. My idea of a great coin shooting program is, Do Not Discriminate, just adjust the volume so you don't hear anything (lower the volume) except nickels, copper pennies, dimes, quarters etc. Now I cannot believe how many silver coins I am digging in places I have hunted before with my NOX 800. I absolutely love my Deus II. That being said, I lost the coil cover in heavy brush, and now I cannot charge my coil. I am struggling to order a new one. When I try at one site, it won't let me order two? It's now Sunday and I still don't have one ordered much less two. The good thing, I have my NOX 800 back-up.
Omg man you got a lot of metal detectors wow wish I did I like to try them all lol
You have a great one on your hands in the Simplex!
NEED ADVICE if Imay......
Man I feel much better after watching this video at taking a risk and paying 1000 for a equinox 800. I'm totally a noob and ordered all the gear I need (so many cool gadgets I went overboard I think lol) and have studied all I can and am sooooo ready for my first time out. Waiting to take care of some medical issues soon as should start detecting in May. I'm close to Cincinnati OH and would so appreciate any advice you veterans out there could share would be much appreciated especially knowledge of my area around me. Hoping to find historical places like battlefields or wherever my 800 leads me lol👍 This channel is absolutely amazing btw. Blessings to you all and your loved ones too.
Just study every metal detecting forum you can find. Locate old swimming holes and get in the water with it. If you find the right one you`ll load up on gold and silver. See Gigmaster`s latest few videos and his older ones with the 800. Go to tot lots on days when it`s drizzling and look for coins. Dig any possible gold jewelry signals though. Try to get permission to hunt old yards. Place an AD once you`re comfortable with it offering to help locate lost rings.
@@baneverything5580 oh wow that's excellent advice! Will definitely do these things. Thanks so very kindly! 💯👍
Garrett AT pro a very good detector in freshwater lakes after Equinox 800 I take out old coins and modern and brass chains, stainless steel and copper rings greetings from Poland Seba from AT pro
I enjoyed the video. Great info. I am now in the process of buying a detector. The two that I had been looking at were the garrett ace 300 and the vanquish 440. What are your thoughts.
I would vote for the Vanquish. The multi frequency is an added bonus. Plus the sounds are little sweeter in my opinion
@@MD-NWWI thank you.
I would hold off and get the vanquish 540. I personally don't have a lot of cash and research like mad before a purchase. My last detector was a no namer foreign detector with a massive 14 inch coil and it actually worked brilliantly, but on getting the vanquish 540 I am finding far smaller targets.
Actually the hardest part of using the vanquish 540 early on was thinking it was picking up false targets because I couldn't even see some of them.
I am using vanquish with larger coil and on relic mode.
I watch a lot of videos on detecting and obviously the pro people use the high end stuff but I have seen a lot of them give good reviews on the vanquish 540.
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Great video. Kind of bummed though. I have a Safari and it didn't do so well. Does that mean it's probably obsolete?
its much more than the detector-mind body and ground conditions matter very much. If youre only depending on your machine then youre not a true treasure hunter
I’ve heard that metal detecting works well with the force from Star Wars and dowsing rods. A good machine will enhance your understanding of what is in the ground, through audio and visual inference.
My buddy hunts with D2. Me a Nox600. He's found stuff behind me and find stuff behind him. Made a big test garden and they both were outstanding. $1000 difference in price. D2 is just a little lighter. To me for the money it's hard to beat the Nox 600. If money is no object D2.
Could you got the same for the BOUNTY HUNTER TRACKER IV metal detector please
Honestly, I buy and test metal detectors that I see being used by others on UA-cam and live in parks and beaches. I own one bounty hunter detector. They are very entry level. Other companies have moved in to simultaneous multi frequency (Minelab, Nokta, Garrett, XP). Even Fisher has made an advanced pulse device. Bounty Hunters would get obliterated. Please forgive my bluntness. I do not mean it to be rude. Their business model seems to be entry level detectors with entry level prices. This is all self bought so I have to draw the line somewhere.
What is suitable for searching for gold and gems? Please give an answer