A Bluetooth interface will allow faster adoption and testing. That will give savvy devs a quick way to build simple apps that are the beginning of chat UX etc
You have just made my project so much more scalable in my budget, you don't even know how big a deal this is for me and the mesh I've been the dev on... Will be following this CLOSELY.
@andykirby absolutely will do, I have to put together a PowerPoint presentation for this summer to present my Mesh deployment, all the integration abilities, range and use case, TDeck and rooted Android device necessity and usage, all the above. In that process, it would be invaluable to have your input at any level. I was already looking into buying 10 Heltec V3 nodes, and I wonder, does your Meshcore integrate with ATAK like meshtastic, or is that something that I would still have to run vanilla FW to provide as functionality, especially the live map with the ability to add POI's and the like. Thanks again!!
@@andykirby thats what I figured, and also what I'm hoping 😅 I've got some folks who I feel the ATAK integration will really boost the usefulness of the mesh, you know how us slightly older gentlemen are either 100% texters, or 100% not, some of the elder guys may be less than impressed with "encrypted texting" as they'll see it. Surely they don't need convincing if I was given a few months and asked to drive/fly across the country to present it 😅
@@andykirby will you be integrating RAK Wisblock nodes as well? It looks like in the current super beta config we'll have rooftop solar nodes for repeaters, TBeams for stationary and mobile (car), and Heltec v3 for pop-in nodes where we could auth a new client onto the mesh for a time while they're in the area but don't need persistent longer distance connection as the folks primarily using the network will want to have If the Rak nodes work with Meshcore, my integration situation could be slightly less hellish 😂 I'd post my email here so we could have a conversation outside UA-cam comments section, and I searched your bio for yours, but I know the internet far too well to go posting even a throwaway Google as a random commenter 😂
@@andykirby yes the radiomaster nomad is esp32 mcu. You can already use a radiomaster bandit nano for meshtastic, thats 900mgz. The gemini stuff is fhss @2,4g and 900 @1000mw.
Will there be an Android platform like Meshtastic so we can see active users in real time on a map....all set up in Wakefield but we already have a divided group using default 869.525 and a big group using 869.4 so could be a wee while before we see any usage.....my T-Deck doesnt seem as responsive as yours Andy, in fact quite laggy, i have reflashed it but still the same ...... keep up the great work
I’m curious, if you’re not satisfied with the values and future direction of the Meshtastic devs, why is the Reticulum stack not satisfactory? I think a little more background as to the “why” would help us get on board with supporting this when, like others have said, it can fragment the community. Fragmenting is okay if the pros outweigh the cons. But I don’t think you’ve given us enough of the “why” Andy. Is that something you’re working on for us?
Reticulum is for a very broad set of technical challenges, of making networks of networks, and bridging networks in exotic ways. It does extend over to the world of LoRa, but wasn't designed for it. MeshCore is designed to be LoRa-first, and as efficient/fast as possible, and take on the scaling problem that Meshtastic have failed to solve.
One thought on the clock syncing: can just anyone send a sync command? If the clock is needed for encryption, for example, could I spoof fake clock data, have someone's node sync from me, and knock it off the network because it's behind time by too much? Hacker hat on is making me think it's not a good idea to let just anyone run that command.
Yes there will be an android app. Maps probably wont work the same way as meshtastic because meshcore is a very efficient system so GPS locations and NodeIDs are not transmitted constantly across the mesh...Meshtastic is a great beaconing system, Meshcore is optimised for communications.
@ It feels like it could be useful for admin stuff, but you'd need to have a method of recognising trusted users. I did assume it was because things are new but I thought it'd be worth asking anyway.
I am so glad that I subscribed to this channel after learning about the Lora Mesh Network because this channel is consistently coming out with interesting and informative content.
Reminder that it's a single dev working on this, astounding work.
love the blackberry look of this LILYGO
Why didn’t you improve meshtastic so we don’t have a forked community and divided clashing band usage?
Exactly
Meshtastic have their own ideas which they want to stick to. It wasn't possible.
@@andykirby Not sure where this is based on. Pull requests are always welcome and considered.
Agreed with OP, submit the changes to Meshtastic and everyone truely benefits with creating fragmentation.
@@andykirbyI think this is a good reason to give us the “why” for Meshcore. See my other comment 👆
A Bluetooth interface will allow faster adoption and testing.
That will give savvy devs a quick way to build simple apps that are the beginning of chat UX etc
Pinky: Gee, Brain, what do you want to do tonight?
THE BRAIN: The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world.
Wow, this Meshcore is moving right along. 👍
Hi Andy If I'm not mistaken "serial control" for IOS would allow you USB serial connection on an apple device.
Any chance of interoperability with Reticulum and LXMF messaging?
This channel is consistently awesome, loving the Meshcore efforts. I've several widgets I can put this on and will test drive next week..
Always excited to see this channel post. Always knowledgeable, and enjoyable. I have found myself on many of the projects that he has put up here.
You have just made my project so much more scalable in my budget, you don't even know how big a deal this is for me and the mesh I've been the dev on...
Will be following this CLOSELY.
Glad to hear it, if you need any assistance please drop me an email 👍🏻
@andykirby absolutely will do, I have to put together a PowerPoint presentation for this summer to present my Mesh deployment, all the integration abilities, range and use case, TDeck and rooted Android device necessity and usage, all the above. In that process, it would be invaluable to have your input at any level.
I was already looking into buying 10 Heltec V3 nodes, and I wonder, does your Meshcore integrate with ATAK like meshtastic, or is that something that I would still have to run vanilla FW to provide as functionality, especially the live map with the ability to add POI's and the like. Thanks again!!
Thanks, no ATAK integration at the moment, I think by the summertime,when you are doing you presentation, things will have moved on significantly!
@@andykirby thats what I figured, and also what I'm hoping 😅 I've got some folks who I feel the ATAK integration will really boost the usefulness of the mesh, you know how us slightly older gentlemen are either 100% texters, or 100% not, some of the elder guys may be less than impressed with "encrypted texting" as they'll see it. Surely they don't need convincing if I was given a few months and asked to drive/fly across the country to present it 😅
@@andykirby will you be integrating RAK Wisblock nodes as well? It looks like in the current super beta config we'll have rooftop solar nodes for repeaters, TBeams for stationary and mobile (car), and Heltec v3 for pop-in nodes where we could auth a new client onto the mesh for a time while they're in the area but don't need persistent longer distance connection as the folks primarily using the network will want to have
If the Rak nodes work with Meshcore, my integration situation could be slightly less hellish 😂
I'd post my email here so we could have a conversation outside UA-cam comments section, and I searched your bio for yours, but I know the internet far too well to go posting even a throwaway Google as a random commenter 😂
What are the chances we can get this working on elrs gemini boards so we can have high powered fhss.
Highly likely, I think they are ESP32 based right?
@@andykirby yes the radiomaster nomad is esp32 mcu. You can already use a radiomaster bandit nano for meshtastic, thats 900mgz. The gemini stuff is fhss @2,4g and 900 @1000mw.
Will the code work on any esp32 board ...heltec tracker, heltec paper etc or only the heltec V3?
Yes, it'll be just down to pin assignments.
Will there be an Android platform like Meshtastic so we can see active users in real time on a map....all set up in Wakefield but we already have a divided group using default 869.525 and a big group using 869.4 so could be a wee while before we see any usage.....my T-Deck doesnt seem as responsive as yours Andy, in fact quite laggy, i have reflashed it but still the same ...... keep up the great work
This is awesome Andy! I can finally get hold of my mates on meshcore
I’m curious, if you’re not satisfied with the values and future direction of the Meshtastic devs, why is the Reticulum stack not satisfactory?
I think a little more background as to the “why” would help us get on board with supporting this when, like others have said, it can fragment the community.
Fragmenting is okay if the pros outweigh the cons. But I don’t think you’ve given us enough of the “why” Andy. Is that something you’re working on for us?
Reticulum is for a very broad set of technical challenges, of making networks of networks, and bridging networks in exotic ways. It does extend over to the world of LoRa, but wasn't designed for it. MeshCore is designed to be LoRa-first, and as efficient/fast as possible, and take on the scaling problem that Meshtastic have failed to solve.
will there be an easy app for MESHCORE?
Yes, this lays the groundwork for app development
@@andykirby Brill, i would need it easy to use. gtreat work. looking forward to this taking off.
👍👍👍👍👍
One thought on the clock syncing: can just anyone send a sync command? If the clock is needed for encryption, for example, could I spoof fake clock data, have someone's node sync from me, and knock it off the network because it's behind time by too much? Hacker hat on is making me think it's not a good idea to let just anyone run that command.
Yes there will be an android app. Maps probably wont work the same way as meshtastic because meshcore is a very efficient system so GPS locations and NodeIDs are not transmitted constantly across the mesh...Meshtastic is a great beaconing system, Meshcore is optimised for communications.
The clock sync _trick_ is just a temporary thing, while the RTC clock support is still being added.
@@rippleradios yeh it seemed like this is for debugging. Theres no way you would allow remote clock syncing since the PKI depends on it.
@ It feels like it could be useful for admin stuff, but you'd need to have a method of recognising trusted users. I did assume it was because things are new but I thought it'd be worth asking anyway.
Could this work with the T-echo or T1000?
It will soon 👍🏻
Project is interesting but reminds me how DMR ended up nowadays.
I am so glad that I subscribed to this channel after learning about the Lora Mesh Network because this channel is consistently coming out with interesting and informative content.
If it's not on reticulum, why should I even care?
Heltec V3 drains Phone power
Around 50mA, it's ok for testing. Bluetooth will be implemented soon.
I must be a bit thick, you lost me after 2 mins can we make calls through a free network not sure I fully understand
No calls just texts.
RAAAAAAK PLEASEEEEEEEEE (or heltec t114)
There's RAK support already 😁 head over to the discord.
Android phone 🤢