Why I Left Greenpeace | 5 Minute Video
Вставка
- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Patrick Moore explains why he helped to create Greenpeace, and why he decided to leave it. What began as a mission to improve the environment for the sake of humanity became a political movement in which humanity became the villain and hard science a non-issue.
🚨 PragerU is experiencing severe censorship on Big Tech platforms. Go to www.prageru.com/ to watch our videos free from censorship!
SUBSCRIBE 👉 www.prageru.co...
📲 Take PragerU videos with you everywhere you go. Download our free mobile app!
Download for Apple iOS ➡ itunes.apple.c....
Download for Android ➡ play.google.co....
📳 Join PragerU's text list! optin.mobiniti...
SHOP! 🛒 Love PragerU? Visit our store today! shop.prageru.com/
Script:
In 1971 I helped found an environmental group in the basement of a Unitarian church in Vancouver, Canada. Fifteen years later, it had grown into an international powerhouse. We were making headlines every month. I was famous. And then I walked out the door.
The mission, once noble, had become corrupted -- political agendas and fear mongering trumped science and truth. Here's how it happened.
When I was studying for my PhD in ecology at the University of British Columbia, I joined a small activist group called the Don't Make a Wave Committee. It was the height of the Cold War; the Vietnam War was raging. I became radicalized by these realities and by the emerging consciousness of the environment.
The mission of the Don't Make a Wave Committee was to launch an ocean-going campaign against US hydrogen bomb testing in Alaska, a symbol of our opposition to nuclear war. As one of our early meetings was breaking up, someone said, "Peace," A reply came, "Why don't we make it a green peace," and a new movement was born.
Green was for the environment and peace was for the people. We named our boat "The Greenpeace" and I joined the 12-person crew for a voyage of protest.
We didn't stop that H-bomb test but it was the last hydrogen bomb the United States ever detonated. We had won a major victory.
In 1975, Greenpeace took a sharp turn away from our anti-nuclear efforts and set out to Save the Whales, sailing the high seas to confront Russian and Japanese whalers. The footage we shot -- young protesters positioned between harpoons and fleeing whales -- was shown on TV around the world. Public donations poured in. By the early 1980s we were campaigning against toxic waste, air pollution, trophy hunting, and the live capture of orca whales.
But I began to feel uncomfortable with the course my fellow directors were taking. I found myself the only one of six international directors with a formal science background. We were now tackling subjects that involved complex issues of toxicology, chemistry, and human health. You don't need a PhD in marine biology to know it's a good thing to save whales from extinction. But when you're analyzing which chemicals to ban, you need to know some science. And the first lesson of ecology is that we are all interconnected. Humans are part of nature, not separate from it. Many other species, disease agents and their carriers, for example, are our enemies and we have the moral obligation to protect human beings from these enemies. Biodiversity is not always our friend.
I had noticed something else. As we grew into an international organization with over $100 million a year coming in, a big change in attitude had occurred. The "peace" in Greenpeace had faded away. Only the "green" part seemed to matter now. Humans, to use Greenpeace language, had become "the enemies of the Earth." Putting an end to industrial growth and banning many useful technologies and chemicals became common themes of the movement. Science and logic no longer held sway. Sensationalism, misinformation, and fear were what we used to promote our campaigns.
For the complete script, visit www.prageru.co...
What happened to Greenpeace sounds like what happened to feminism.
OMG I was thinking the same
Good, now both of you can make connections and relate to history.
Top comment!
agree
Great!!!!
They wanted to ban chlorine? The oceans would have posed an *enormous* challenge to that.
What?
+Michael Hinchliffe Sodium chloride. Not exactly chlorine, but a disturbing amount of people don't understand chemistry.
+Michael Hinchliffe
Salts. They're talking about salt water.
EG: Sodium chloride
Michael Speth who doesn't?
Michael Speth Well, whatever the hell you're going on about, it was a genuine question, because you're going all out autistic on me mang
Doesn't surprise me, one of the reasons I don't like donating to causes. PETA is another good example of good intent gone wrong; corrupt to the core.
PETA's just a bunch of nutcases.
Most PETA members are perfectly fine with aborting a baby but are totally against hunting, owning pets, or even seeing-eye dogs.
Donate to SeaShepherd, 90% of their funds go directly to their campains, and 95% of their funds are from donations!
Paul Watson, another founder of GreenPeace left early because he saw how the organisation would be corrupt and useless. He founded SeaShepherd to protect the oceans and wildlife where fools and governments fail.
Kind of like feminism smh
@@tray22 they are in the process of trying to get the village of wool to change its name because it is linked to sheep cruelty?
what they didnt realise is that the village name is derived from the old saxon word for fresh well.
naomi cambell is a member of peta, and she wears fur or wool when the photo shoot dictates???????????????????????????????????????????????????????.
the only way to stop these twats is to ignore them but all media outlets give them a platform because it looks good on the CV that they 'support' 'good causes'.
rich hypocrites who live in bubbles, come the next big war/catastrophic event and we will be expected to help or protect them, personally i would kill them to save valuable water/food supplies from non productive humans
*Why i left buzzfeed*
I dont get it
TerraMerc 73, there is a growing trend of good and/or entertaining UA-cam content creators leaving UA-cam and posting why.
You left that steaming pile of shit? Good job. You are now on the way to being a productive member of society.
Now leave reddit
Avocado Sauce *why would you join in the first place?*
The only "green" in Greenpeace are the dollars.
Their use of the word Peace is nefarious also.
Do you know that Greenpeace is a non profit-making organization?
No not just the dollar. It is politics. When you have a political agenda.... Scary. This how Fake News start.
And the weed
Let's never the Greenpeace Angry Kid ad, it's on youtube, 10 years old and loaded with laughable predictions.
I'm getting a degree in Enviromental sciences, and the more I studied the more I got skeptical and wary of such organizations.
I'm kinda interested in the topic. It would be awesome to exchange some ideas (if you'd like) :)
Why waste your college education? What job will you get with that degree? The EPA?
Mister Meise i would ;)
Also studying Environmental Science, toxicology exam tomorrow, and I completly agree with your coment. Hating an element like Cl just because some of its forms are damaging (many from the "dirty dozen") is like hating Carbon because the bully of your school is made of it lol
DaggerXIV I used to support these groups until I grew up did my own quicl research.
I walked away too because of their political agenda especially on social media. Sad.
hey im writing an article about green peace. would you maybe care to be interviewed via email about your time there?
That's the Monsanto guy who said glyphosate was safe and then refused to drink it!
allencrider
I know that drinking urine is safe, but i wouldn't do it just to prove a point. That's stupid.
Luhtännet Körnel Glyphosate has been declared a probable carcinogen by an agency of the World Health Organization. He's stupid, but he's not an idiot.
allencrider Nowadays almost anything gives you cancer.
Even going OUTSIDE gives you cancer because UV radation can cause cancer.
So if he said "glyphosate is safe to drink" with the only complaint being "it's carcinogen" (and nothing else), that's about as bad as saying: tanning at the beach is safe.
It sounds like the fear mongering he was talking about.
(If there's more complaints with glyphosate I'm unaware of those.)
BOINKHeadshot Drink up, then! Here's the full report from the WHO. Stronger than your google
monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monographs/vol112/mono112-02.pdf
allencrider I wonder if you bothered to read through it or any other sources. We have conducted trials on animals that were fed such amounts of glyphosate that they would also be poisoned if it was NaCl. And it turned out to be about as poisonous as salt and not carcinogenic. The WHO study is an overview of some epidemiological studies on some farmers and invitro which had mixed results (different cancer in each) and aren't the perfect models. Especially if the odds are very small it's easy to manipulate the study/get wrong conclusions. So basically they said "we need to look more into that". They don't say "it's carcinogenic". And you fail to mention that for decades EPA and EFSA consider glyphosate as a safe herbicide. Why don't you greens go and wage war against herbicides, because let's face it, you do it because of your hate for GMO.
I joined my university's environmentalist club. In the very first meeting, some people came in to inform us of a nuclear power plant whose exhaust was "wafting out over the forest." There was a gasp from the whole room. I never went back.
Hahahaha, lemme guess, the 'exhaust' they were talking about was coming from the cooling stack. In other words, it was harmless steam and water vapor. XD
Yes.
wow
Mitch Johnson I hate nuclear power. I just couldn't live next to a nuclear bomb waiting to go off, even if the odds are minuscule
Edit: holy shit this is a horrible take. Nuclear power is the future.
Chandler Short
Although i understand that feeling, i find it ridiculous that anyone would prefer a 100% chance of killing the entire planet over a 0.01% chance of blowing up a region.
At 3:45 you can start to see him tear up. At least I think. I think this guy at the core of who he was honestly believed that the organization he built was going to do good in this world. That was taken from him. This video deserves waay more respect and attention that it has. The world needs more men like him. Humble, honest and most of all, logical following an understanding behind the two worlds logic and emotion. This alone is why we see the world as it is becoming. We're becoming more instinctual and our future is grim the less we rely on logic.
I'm so sorry Patrick that you had to see what your once noble organization turned into
Is English your native language?
😑
Leftist views are ANTI-SCIENTIFIC
Want to join Green Peace?
Me: no thank you, I like my drinking water and would like to end world hunger.
End world hunger? Then export condoms to Africa and if they dont use them cut of all aid
@@MrYorickJenkins You can't just throw stuff at people and hope they'll know how to use them
Do you also believe Monsanto Roundup is not a probably carcinogen? Do you believe that it is harmless to humans and that you'd drink a whole quart of the stuff? Because Patrick Moore does! I hate Greenpeace, but I hate idiots like Patrick Moore, more than that. Don't make a claim if you aren't ready to back it up.
@@MrYorickJenkins A more effective strategy would be to wipe out the warlords as they're the one's causing the famines by both taking control of and destroying the food production and using food as a beating stick to control the populations.
This explains why Greanpeace never protests nuclear plants in imperialist countries like USA, Germany, England. But they offensively protest it when developing countries like Indonesia and Turkey wants to build one for themselves.
AhmedHan can you send me the news source so i can read them
You should check out The moral case for fossil fuels by Alex Epstein.
Also I like how USA, Germany and England are evil imperialists but there is no preface on Turkey... lol that made me laugh, thanks.
germany and nuclear plants....read before you write something!
nucleur power is aver ma dude
No offense, but I don't think you know what imperialism means
there was a Greenpeace commercial before this
omg
+Vape Every Day VAPENATION!!!
OLOFPALME420BLAZEIT ye ik
+Vape Every Day Go green
The word Greenpeace is probably in the tags, so UA-cam automatically applied the advert here.
LOL
As a physicist I experience this every day..... The solution to our problems is already out there, we however fear change in many different ways.
+Daan W. Ist really funny though that we live in constant change. Why should we fear it, cant we accept it anstead? That is what i try to do at least.
@@mpw4c damn bro u dumb change is not not using plastic
Imagine a world where we didn’t reject nuclear power and GMOs out of fewr
I quit Greenpeace because they were utterly silent over the destruction of North Sea fisheries. I joined UKIP because they weren't.
Greenpeace has a lot of campaigns over this topic.
Well I'm sure people will be reassured to know that they can rely on UKIP for all their scientific and environmental information now...
@@samlomax5120 that's a childish misrepresentation of my position and you know it. However, now Greenpeace have decided to re-engage with overfishing by dropping riprap on the Dogger bank, I may rejoin.
@@johnwade1095 Greenpeace have limited resources and many battles they have to fight. They have always opposed overfishing in all parts of the world, including the destruction of North Sea fisheries. It is great that they have now had the time and resources to take action against via the Dogger Bank boulders, but if you head to media.greenpeace.org, you can see plenty of examples of their oceans protection work.
Greenpeace are also currently campaigning for 30% of the world's oceans to be protected by 2030, via the new oceans treaty which will be created next year. This will give fish and marine life populations the chance to re-generate, increase oxygen levels in our oceans and help avoid further pollution. I would fully suggest that you rejoin, it is great to have as much support as possible and the more involved people get, the more they can see what amazing work Greenpeace does do.
@@samlomax5120 its plain I know more about this than you.
Don't get me started on what they did in Peru.
beefyoso the actions of a few shouldn't define the many, i worked with that organization as a canvasser for a few weeks and i can tell you everyone i worked with really want to make the difference and do good for the environment
wilson Diaz Results matter. Intentions dont. In my country these cunts were protesting against, Thermal plants , Nuclear plants and "Hydro plants" when thousands of farmers lack proper all round electricity supply. They can wipe my ass for all I care with their "difference making attitude"
Kamalakumar K that is really true which really makes me conflicted about it since I can account for both sides, i think instead of terminating green peace they should impose a new leadership of more educated and professional experts to tackle the real problems that don't help neither people nor the environment
Kamalakumar K said, "Intentions dont (matter)"
I have to disagree with this. Intentions not fully thought through can often go wrong. That doesn't mean the intent wasn't noble.
If you only look at results and not the attempt we wouldn't have learned to fly or create any innovations that we have today.
*****
Good intentions can often go wrong. It shouldn't be discredited because of good intent.
If you ban Chlorine, no more table salt O_O
Yup, just like in Demolition Man - "Salt is bad for you, therefore illegal."
which would be great...
+Geert Van den Dries ... Until you get hyponatremia.
that is sodium cloride
Salt from sea water is more healthy.
Cheap free energy: sunlight from well placed windows and skylights in buildings. Open the windows in the summer fall and spring for cooling.
Not really 16 nuclear power plants, can easily power the Netherlands. 1 plant would produce waist the seize of an apple in 1 year. It would be far better then putting those solar panels ( which have a huge impact to make in the first place) once u respect and understand nuclear energy... it realy can be the future..
@@anno41 forget skylights, solar panels, windmills and nuclear. Natural gas furnaces are 3 times as efficient as fuel burning power plants. Wasting 4% as opposed to 66% of the heat produced by the gas being burned.
@@suggesttwo What do you do when natural gas runs out? I think more should be invested in to biogas and other biofuels
@@danc101 the polar ice caps didn't melt 20 years ago and drown us all. 2000, 2010, 2013, 2016 and 2020. It's all a lie, when I was Gretta's age I was just like her scared silly. Now it makes me mad when I hear any of that miserable GWCC narrative.
@@suggesttwo I'm going to be honest, climate change doesn't really scare me that much, but you've got to accept that fossil fuels are going to run out at some point
Funny how people tend to be dumb and headstrong while their young, then calculating and deliberate when older.
i think it rather shows a defeat in rationalism in our society, i've come to the same conclusion as him concerning Greenpeace and i'm around his age when he started the movement
@@recouer i can agree on that. division can make tribalism and decentralization thus easy conquering. but who for that matter would have the knowledge basis to form such plans let alone plan the take over piece by piece of a great republic whom forgot what made it great *plays X-files theme* (joke meant to rev up the thinking engines.)
i saw what made it great was the service to the people for the people by the people, no parties to boggle down efforts nor political manipulation and scheming for glory or fighting over who fixes what and who's name is taught in history class in who's fixed classroom
back when the people mattered to politicians and were not deplorable cattle who said yes to singular issues. sometimes we must learn the value of freedom, before we can enjoy it. to appreciate and give high effort. what made it great were the people being served by the law in co-creating the world around them, it was their American dream, it was their home and it was very beautiful. they left legacies. fear mongering of national security led to secrets being kept and dark deeds befalling the reputation of the government if it was not the party bigotry that started it
sometimes we must say to the "Enough fighting all of you or we will impeach you all ourselves to place in power by all of our unity someone who will get the issue resolved no matter if it costs him re-election nor his career" all of this is about keeping power and money in pockets by delaying to fix so many issues. civil rights would of been unnecessary if the people enforced the 14th amendment properly, the CVA (Civil Rights Act) was just a "you better adhere to the 14th amendment pronto, cuz it's here to stay like rock and roll"
being in the American government should mean, you can serve the people, not your party, but your people, the ones who elected you in. and there shall be pride in it. the first words of the living document, the constitution, "We the people" not "we the CEOs" or "we the Parties". this is the people's land, this is the land where the people lead. therefore we not them shall be the artificial selectors of this country's multitude of evolution. nothing shall stop the people from getting what they desire. "America first" this also should mean "all Americans take initiative" like they did back then. take the jobs otherwise held by immigrants who are taken here just to work before they are filled no matter the conditions of said jobs. get the job then get the government to check for wrong doings. back in the great depression the Americans took pride in their work as co-creators of this democracy. a job would be the greatest Christmas gift and direct cash aid given would be given back in pride after recovery. today, we take their sacrifices for granted and we lose sense of ourselves, balance hard work with smart work. as both are necessary. today we have too much of the other but back in the Guilded Age (we can thank mark twain for naming it for us) people worked too hard. with no smarts they couldn't check leadership for bad apples thus the whole orchard became bad apples and the government farmer just sat back and watched the mutation and did not know better. brain and braun in balance or sophistication within allocations of the free peoples whom still adopt the extremes of brain or muscle. essentially good team work in the right places. to balance the polarization and breaking of rules and law. and for that we need all the views in the land to come together and chart the best map of the battlefield to plan the greatest offensive against the worse of enemies, the problems that bog all efforts down. my say on that matter, the party system. if there were no parties then there would only be people to serve on duty in the lands that make law. government may of been called evil but it is the man at the hilt that can make the devil's steel sword truly wicked.
i request this wisdom taken on my behalf so that we may find our sun again to revolve around as a once again united solar system or house of planets. "a house divided against itself cannot stand" Abraham Lincoln said this. the house, or the union or the US divided by party VS Party against itself or against unity cannot stand through the real trials of the times. ensure the greatest of compromises and sympathies be given next time one is on the table of politics that we all act as professional citizens and as role models. that anger is never an answer as much as they say violence is. but instead understanding is. that decisions can be repealed as they much as they can be enacted and thus can be used like maneuvers for a vehicle to keep clear of the hazards that cause these terrible decisions (meant to also not single anyone out) to be made. so are we ready to do that barrel role now for the sake of democracy and not the oligarchs in the parties and Cooperate (big business) towers? (sounds odd i know but, we must follow the commands of the people, not the oligarchs who lead the party direction as they are easily as much as a source of the problem as our division is.).
@@collaborisgaming2190
i'm a yellow vest xD
@@recouer good luck to a fellow patriot. did some research of the yellow jacket movement. looks like you pulled of decentralization correctly. uniting the people around the cause and service and not a leader no party. that's the way protest should be done. let the individual in the allied causes be secondary.
concerning the high living cost getting higher and salaries staying the same in the US as well. i fear it may be the rise of a new guilded age, where once again we get trapped in wage slavery due to taxes and other factors that literally takes all of our money away. i heard problems like these are often rooted in central banks not taxes now-a-days with better labor laws. however it will cause the government to raise taxes to pay debt to said central banks. as they are the banks for banks and they make money by issuing debt. slavery originally began as a way to pay off debt. it is not far to say the central bank's biggest negative effect is that we become slaves to them because of our debt to them literally makes us work our entire lives to pay off our debt to them, and because our savings are literally spent away every other "economic crisis" vacations are nearly impossible
Debt can do a lot, it started WW2 because the debt made the Germans resent the allies who pinned it on them. the Nazis took power and along with it they raised their own war machine from almost nothing. thus they were the first country to get out of the great depression. it was the debt issued by the US Central bank reserve in WW1 and the entaunt's pinning of the debt on a country ill able to pay it (Germany) that we got the Great depression (because the entire economy in the US was structured at the time to be ready to receive payment for all the loans they made in WW1) then we got Germany backed into a corner because of it and that and the Rise of the Nazis starting WW2 and its whole new set of debt that the WW1 war debt has only been paid off finally in 2010. almost a century after the debt was issued to a country claimed to have started the war (even though it was the Austria Hungarians who first declared war and it was Serbia's terrorist group, "black hand" that assassinated the prince of that old empire that caused the declaration of war in the first place, if that happened to us we would easily declare war hands down. Germany was pinned because they had the best industry in the world and frankly were the best weapon makers the world had to offer at the time. after WW2 they wanted to convert Germany to a farming nation because, during the war, they invented the ICBM (via V-2 rocket), German notes got tested in the Ivy mike prototype so they were literal hard water shipments away from inventing the nuke 4 years before the Americans (Germans started atomic weapons research in 1937, project Manhattan started in 41 when the US entered the war because Einstein told them what the Germans were doing) did, they invented the Assault rifle with the MP-43 (it outclassed the Browning Assault Rifle because the BAR was not really an assault rifle but a quick put together of a WW1 Light machine gun didn't start completely from scratch like the germans did the the SturmGhewer (literally German for "assault rifle" hitler gave it that name out of how impressed he was with it.)). that became the inspiration for the AK-47. they in WW1 invented fighter planes, bombers, War submarines (U-boats) trains with artillery (Kubelwagens) mechanized infantry, very formidable tanks especially the tiger tank. had the best camouflage out of any faction in the war, had the best AA guns and even the fastest artillery guns as well as the best trained soldiers in the war that could give the marines a run for their money. the helmets we see today they covered the back of head and neck was from the German Stalhelm. we took that from them, even their basic rifles were better than ours. several gun companies took Luger's, mauser's, and Kurtz's and made their best guns with in. such as the Springfield rifle, the infamous trench gun, and even some elements in the M1 Garand. the Germans had the best Machine guns and had the first hand held machine gun with the MG-34 but because it was too expensive they made MG-42s that were heavier. not to mention the best bunkers. the worse thing about them were their Nazi ideology and their tactics were terrible. but they will were good fighters. Italy was difficult to take because of German assistance to the Italian black-skirts. the most respected general out of the entire war for the axis was Erwin Rommel, dessert fox. not only was he a good example of what a Sturmtrooper could do (in WW1) he stormed Italy with German forces (back when he was a leftenant) to give relief to the Austrians and when the rest of the Germans retreated. he took 100 of his guys most of them wounded including himself. stormed enemy trenches and took 9000 enemy soldiers prisoner. the Italians were better fighters in WW1 then they were in WW2. and Rommel in WW2 (it was also the next time after WW1 he ever stepped on a battle field, this time as a General) held north Africa, a land area almost twice the size of the European Reich and Held it with less forces for years. it took the dessert resistance who fought like animals to make a dent on the Africakorps. and one reason D-Day was very successful despite casualties was because they trained against Rommel with amphibious landings in Africa to test their gear and they trained a good amount of the greenhorns to be how they were during D-Day along side landing techniques)
easily all of this was more than enough reason to fear and want to down grade Germany to a AG country. look at them today in research. they have the most solar power in the world (granted that it was more costly) the Germans are still bent on improving more so, than the cooperation, in the US are and if we forget in the American revolution the person who drilled all the American troops was a German named Friedrich Wilhelm Von Steuben.
moral of the story: Debt and rising financial difficulty will cause political havok and bloodshed especially if power is taken by the wrong people on terms of keeping peace. the Russian revolution was because the rise of prices did not match the elevation of income. same for the Great depression. the 2010s are the new roaring 20s and if we let it, we might have another great depression-like event before we have another world war. by the time 2050 comes around. i hope the yellow jacket movement succeeds personally and it doesn't become corrupt in anyway. to get another shoe for the unprotected foot and not put the single shoe on the other foot. as it simply destroys the message of equality downright.
@@collaborisgaming2190
well corrupting a whole population will prove difficult as our first priority is to pass
a "citizens' initiative referendum"(référendum d'initiative populaire) in order to allow more popular representation in the government so that there does not exist a rift between our people and our elite that seems they do not even know what poverty means.
also, do not that french have a long standing history of social fights through manifestation, in the latter years, and decapitation in the earliest. and we always managed to bring about great structural changes to our work conditions and social conditions in general. take for example the manifestation in 1936 which lead to a 40 hours a week of work, paid leaves and an increase in salary from 7% to 15%. and in the 1968 protests, we’ve had an increase of 35% of the minimum wage and an increase of 10% of salaries. and those protests always came with a destitution or change of government, because at those times, political parties still represented the populace.
however, now, with those new revendications, what did we get ? only a decrease of 100 euros of for the lowest wages or to put it less nicely, almost nothing.
also, i don’t think that we will see a decay of this movement, on the contrary, on every streets, people supports the movement and only a privileged few doesn’t. and so even with the many attempts of the government to divide us, with a diabolisation campaign, almost parodic from how cliché it is. in fact, in france, every news channel or media is owned by one of the powerful few, those same that put great lobbying pressure to a lethargic government that does not even try to think by themselves and only approves what the lobbyist tells them to approve…
and so since our government does not take priority in our wellbeing but in the economic prosperity of those powerful few, they are left with subtle stratagem in order to mislead us and make us fight among ourselves so that we cannot see the problem, thus creating a fake disparity between parties even though they do apply the exact same policy, making us fight for stupid reasons, diverting our attention, using terrorism only to justify a decrease in individual liberties etc…
i could go on for a very long time as our representation system is corrupt in nearly every scale.
however, do note that politician have only became a parody of themselves as they can say a thing and its exact opposite the same day so that they could amass as much vote from themselves since people would interpret their evasive term how they like it most and so you get free votes without the need to respect your earliest pledges. and this has became clearly apparent with the program of our actual president, which he did not have, even one month before the election. that did not stop people from voting for him though…
and with this representation crisis, we are only left with one revendication, for us to gain sovereignty, which could only be met if we had an actual impact in the decisionary system, using a referendum, but we can see how well our actual dictator or president, likes the idea of a government made for its people ...
Hi look! A PragUni vid that is spot on with little to no deception tactics. Good on you. The thing is, you have such an awful reputation for being deceptive jerks that if I try to use this vid to convince people the mere fact that it was made by you is going to drive their suspicions through the roof.
Well if they are willing to judge a video without or before watching it, then good luck trying to convince them using anything.
You can't always find sources you agree with everything on.
***** So... you're saying that you're dealing with people that don't use logic but rely on emotions? Good luck reasoning with them.
Kami-sama no Otaku Prager University is not a trusted source. The founder is known for his climate change denialism, general anti-intellectualism and homophobia. Not to mention that all of the "courses" are 5-minute videos on VERY nuanced topics, where the "professors" only give very simple-minded, black-and-white answers.
Alex Kjellman So you recommend them highly then?
I don't trust sources that take terms like "climate change denialism" and "homophobia" seriously as they are only serious terms because dangerous religious fanatics (that fancy themselves *not* to be religious) employ them to combat actual intellectual discourse. "Anti-intellectualism" sadly isn't a useful term because the anti-intellectuals are the ones that use it all the time; people that don't want to think about or discuss a matter but instead want simple-minded adherence to their own dogma.
I suppose this is effective on those poor folks that may have just barely begun to wake up from the lies being feed to them. When you constantly see that reality doesn't match what you're being told, you start searching for answers and if you're not finding them quickly enough, when someone shouts at you to get back into line, one tends to capitulate.
Kami-sama no Otaku
Mike Hunt
Have you ever considered looking into the opposing view, as I and Alex Kjellman are doing by watching PragUni vids?
I'm not saying you go watch Vox, as they are heavily biased towards the other side, but at least try to look into it from a different point of view.
RE: anti-intellectualism. I'm not sure what Alex meant, but as I see it, PragUni picks and chooses which science they can use to further their preexisting ideology, and which science they just don't like so are willing to wave it off with some deceptive rhetoric.
For example, they are following the science when it comes to GMOs. Here their capitalist world view is in line with the science so they accept it. But when it comes to man made climate change, the science says the opposite of what they want to believe, so they want to ignore and discredit it.
Problem with green peace is they aren't pragmatic, nuclear energy and gmos are not bad. Used responsibly they can help to save us from global warming and save the environment. I cant stand the anti nuclear energy anti gmo stances don't be against those things be pro responsibility pro regulation and pro science.
+William Harrison
Well said!
Well said!
Nuclear energy is the future! Whether it be Uranium, Thorium, or in the far future: Hydrogen Fusion.
Emphasis on the phrase "used responsibly". GMOs haven't been used responsibly, so they deserve the bad reputation.
I might replace "regulation" with "oversight." Regulation tends to put people into positions of power, whereby they proceed to continue or expand their power and justify their position by any means available. Usually to the detriment of everyone else. Like a cancer, their own continuance trumps the survival of their host.
are those regulations voluntary or not? i am against enforced regulations,the market can egulate itself,but i agree with everything else in your comment
(Sarcastically) Your videos and the truth offend me. I consider both to be considered microaggressions. I think I'll lock myself up in my safe space.
ua-cam.com/video/1aoWVRhgEqI/v-deo.html
For some reason I thought it would be a link to South Park's safe space song
Good, that means you can keep your stupidity from spreading. :P
Julio M. Lopez That isn't what sarcasm means.
Julio M. Lopez (sarcastically) uhhh yeah, trump bad hillary good, amirite?
He's incorrect in his statement that the US stop testing thermonuclear (hydrogen) bombs. The last thermonuclear test carried out out by the US was in 1992. He may have been referring to high-yield tests. After the Alaskan test (~5Mt tnt), the US and Russia agreed to limit their tests to 150kt.
might have been the last test for a long time at the time they were protesting, thus the feeling of victory.
kylesenior Old fart probably got facts mixed up, that was a while ago.
He was protesting about explosions in the atmosphere... You are as scientificaly corect as the chlorine ban scientists.
I think he was just referring to tests in Alaska.
I was hired to work for greenpeace, orientation is supposed to be tomorrow... the past month since the offer presented itself, something felt off and for some reason my gut has steered me away from it. Saying I’m all for peace and change would be an understatement, however I feel in the depths of my bones there’s a better way to make the changes needed than the ways they’d have me doing. I make bigger waves of influence in my personal life than I would being in this company. Guess I’ll stay jobless a while longer.
very well spoken, thats the sad truth
As a kid I was a bully (not proud about that). I used intimidation and fear to get Kids to do stuff. It always surprises me at how well fear and intimidation works on adults. I think adults are much more easier to manipulate because adults have more fears to use against them. Fear of losing their job, scared their children are in jeopardy, fear of not being accepted by others, fear of the world ending, fear of death, fear of going to jail, fear they aren’t perfect, fear the sky is going to fall, etc.... too easy lol. Be courageous and face all your fears face to face and know Gods has your back.
I was a bullied kid but I'm sure I was also a bully at some point. I even had a class bully apologize to me many years after leaving school and we both felt happier. (to be honest, his bullying of the whole class was actually kind of comedic relief we all needed at the time and more often than not, he made himself look like a fool so it wasn't all that bad when he picked on us. Lol) We all learn and we all grow. The point is that you changed your behavior and realized how it made other people feel and for that, you're to be commended so, don't beat yourself up over it.
And you're very right. It's extremely easy to control people when you shove fear in their face. In this day and age, just let people know you don't care about fear and nothing they can do is going to make you bend to their will. If a movement is truly ethical and moral, you will be able to tell by how they conduct themselves.
Also like the kidnapping concept. If you're being kidnapped, do everything you can to get away so they don't take you to the second location. Don't ever give in and keep fighting. If someone puts a gun to my head and say they'll kill me if I do or don't do something, I'm looking them straight in the eye and I'm going to say "go ahead. Kill me then. Because I'm not going to do what you want me to."
Greenpeace.
Green stands for "forcing our will on others" and the peace stands for "forcing our will on others".
Doesn't make sense, but rolls much better
Excellent videos. I was a member of an environmentalist group in my country. We campaigned against toxic waste. Then a leftist party landed in the group and started manipulating it. When doing a banner against toxic waste, they manipulated the location of the waste disposal site, to "convince more people about our cause" I left the group and never came back.
Greenpeace have become an instrument of the vested interests financing them. I lost all respect for them long time ago
Indeed
I love it how they knew what size to make the banners on the coal conveyor! They must have been scoping the site out quite a bit prior to the protest.
Thank you, Mr Patrick M
oore
i used to work for green peace, as a door to door "sales man" (begging for donations), the training was simple find old people and people who don't understand and make them donate every month, its horrid and i recommend that no one works for them. You have to throw away all of your heart and soul for a charity.......
Same happend to me.
Source: dude, trust me
Environmentalism, feminism, socialism, liberalism have all outlived their initial purpose in the Western world - hence “to be scrapped” the sooner the better !
The west gotta burn to keep the east from freezing😪😪😪
Plus is Green Peace duopoly controlled....like dems g..new d...a pretend to care w/ fail ends because they like to create situations to keep doing their ways all along...
The original efforts continue untainted with REAL SCIENCE REAL UNBURIED HISTORIES to uplift humanly the PLANET we are ONE HUMAN RACE is 2020 the peace at heart and open minded will see the next chapter...not the people who knowingly or unknowingly will perpetuate this primitive reality...in the past greed and careless power was and continues? the end of many civilizations...let the universal law of peace upgrade us...the future now if we really care learn and pass it forward to not repeat but correct it...NOW NOT LATER...
Globalgreens . org
Because is what really matters...our concerns...not their profits on our expense...
Simple, straight forward. Thank you for time to make this video.
Timothy Harris too simple, too straightforward, to easily set you up with a convenient perspective, yeah...
Its his story. he isn't giving a speech on Greenpeace. Its him telling you why HE left.
Let's ban gold!
***** Yes! LET'S BAN COMPUTERS THEN!
You mean I have gold inside my computer?? I'm RICHHHHH richhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Filipe Lopes yes but you're only gonna get like $50 dollars worth... If you're gonna sell that gold you might as well just sell your computer... Gives you more money...
Let's ban Oxygen! I heard too much of it can kill you!
Pearl Adelaja Really? I thought the only problem with huge ammounts of oxygen are EXPLOSIONS...
there would be no need for golden rice if the crops that are grown to feed factory farmed animals were used to feed people instead
+FruityHachi --But those factory farmed animals are then eaten by people!
+Greg B exactly. it´s a waste of crops. there´s enough food to feed all the humans, but because half or the majority of crops go to feed farmed animals which are than eaten by people in wealthy countries, people in
3rd world countries are starving.
+Greg B
exactly, poor distribution of food from poor countries to wealthy countries. from feeding farmed animals to feed people in wealthy countries and not feeding crops directly to humans in poor countries. that´s poor distribution, and it goes hand in hand with bad governments since only a bad government could give its crops to wealthy nations instead of its own people. but if the fault would be bad governments, than why would an introduction of golden rice secure food for all in those countries? why would the governments let people to be fed golden rice, but not the crops which they grow and which they could eat if wouldn´t be fed to livestock instead?
back to grain distribution, fao.org/fileadmin/user_upload/animalwelfare/HSI--The%20Impact%20of%20Industrialized%20Animal%20Agriculture%20on%20World%20Hunger.pdf this report states that feeding crops to cattle and other land animals is not sustainable and people in western countries should reduce their meat and other animal products intake
we could just by-pass the animals and invent lab-grown meat, or we could go straight to plants.
"It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes. "
+Greg B nope, you´re misunderstanding me. what i meant by that is that poor countries feed their crops to farmed animals, which are than used for meat which weatlhy countries eat.
again, you did not answer my questions: if the fault would be bad governments, than why would an introduction of golden rice secure food for all in those countries? why would the governments let people to be fed golden rice, but not the crops which they grow and which they could eat if wouldn´t be fed to livestock instead?
and you completely ignored the link i posted. as well as feeding crops to farmed animals IS a poor distribution because we could just by-pass the animals and invent lab-grown meat, or we could go straight to plants, since even American Dietetic Association states humans don´t need meat to survive.
This is a uniquely 1st world thing. Here we eat Soy we don't feed it to farm animals. If you had a more nutritious form of rice there is no reason not to have it. It shows a supreme form of ignorance to think that somehow a starved population would rather feed their farm animals rather than themselves.
With the GMO's Part, humans have been editing/refining crops genes for centuries, Its just that GMOs is made in a lab, not cross bread. As long as the GMO does not create some messed up side effect it should be fine.
And to do as much as possible to prevent any negative side-effects, rigorous study must be conducted. However Greenpeace boycotts any and all research. Prefering humanity to fumble in the dark as if it is some sort of forbidden knowledge.
One of your best videos. Cheers!
Just kidding ... you enlightened me... What once was a good cause turned into ridiculous ... moderation
Jaden Marie actually there become a tool of united Nation agenda 20/30 which falls in line with a very real agenda 21....depopulation now there claiming people themselves just by breathing farting etc..are creating most of co2 and should depopulated ...nice word for exterminated so Agenda20/30 will heard all kinds of people into city's away from countryside wonder why they want them all together.hmmmcheck it out I recommend a heavy dose of Alex Jones regular nightly program to keep on top of things ....to truly be awake
Jaden Marie--If what you are saying is YOU are a FAN of moderation-----
then I Am a FAN of YOU!!!!!!
Like Bill Marr said:"O tolerance=O brains!!!"
I am from Pakistan, I would be very glad to become a member of Green Peace.
Thanks indeed
I don't like 'em putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay! XD
A great man once said: If hippies lived just one month amid the misery of the developing world, they'd be crying out for tractors and fertilizers and irrigation canals, and be outraged that fashionable elitists were trying to deny them these things.
If that great man would hav been wise as well, he would have added that true progress is not build on the demolisation of our planet.
The family loves each other until the Will is read.
trophy hunting maybe be hard to stomach but it is important to conservation efforts(I'm assuming he means hunting lions and other animals like them). The government of whatever country the hunting is happening use the often hundreds of thousands if dollars spent by the hunter to get a permit to hunt on helping other animals by using the funds to support reserves and the people who help keep the animals on the reserve safe
RussianBot 521 yeah but still... Trophy photography would be way more cool...And it's way more challenging, a real reason to exhibit your trophy proudly instead of an easy, unfair, undeserved supression... Terminating a life is just not cool at all, especially just for the sake of hanging a skin or a skull. I can understand hunting for food. But A "trophy"? Just nonsense murder.
Serag Explain trophy photography. Cause I thought nature photography is better.
Alexander Christopher lol just another way to call wildlife photo 😉... Now that I think it over, the name does not work well as intended haha... But you get the point: wildlife photo can give you fantastic "trophies", well alive (yes, in the pic), equal or more thrills (tried to get a close-up portrait of an elephant hahah), plus you save yourself from transforming your home into a neanderthal cave...
I dont believe that for a moment
Ban chlorine! Ha, don't make me laugh.
I didn't know about a GOLDEN RICE, but now I want it!
You are a smart man and I support you thank you for caring about people
You deleted this yesterday? Why?
The world needs to expand existing animal habitats on both land and in the oceans by 100x. Too much development of the land is taking away animal and natural habitats and too much fishing and netting is destroying and depleting the ocean. The human population has doubled since 1980s and it is continuing to grow out of control at a logarithmic rate. See the world population websites if you don't agree. Our planet has not grown to adjust to the human growth, so we as humans must learn how to balance our population and our dedicated land for Farming and living for humans, and habitats for animals. Natural and animal habitats must be protected and increased in size or the only animals we will have left are on farms and zoos. We must do this now before it is too late and the passage of time and human greed erases all animal and natural habitats. Most people are narrow minded and think we can just live together however man in most all scenarios destroy habitats so there is no living together side by side.
I saw the title and thought "bet it's Patrick Moore"...awesome! He turned me off GP with an essay included in the book "You Are Being Lied To"
2:55 is so misleading!
how do both points interlink.. First we are *all* interconnected, but then, there are enemies that we should eliminate!
enough hypocrisy for today I guess..
VeganRevolution there is no hypocrisy to that, humans are a part of nature is the first statement and there are parts of nature threatening to humans is the second.
For one moment I believe it was going to be intelligent and full of good argument. Then I did research.
Esteban Munoz yep it’s shit. And this guy is a sellout lobbyist.
Still not a fan of Greenpeace but this is one of the most embarrassing UA-cam videos wver
This is a PragerU video, so I guess I’m not surprised, but the reason GreenPeace is against this specific GMO is because it endeavors to solve one problem (vitamin A deficiency known as VAD for short) without solving any other problems. VAD is just one of many types of issues caused by malnutrition and inadequate food diversity in poor regions of the world. Golden rice may help specific communities with VAD, but it doesn’t help with other nutritional deficiencies so GreenPeace instead propose that the communities adopt an ecological plan of community and home gardening, supported by the same funding that currently goes to the development and deployment of golden rice and other GE crops. Essentially, their argument isn’t that we should take poor communities and keep them alive like cattle by feeding them only the bare minimum necessary for survival (like golden rice), but that we should teach them how to grow and consume foods that will meet their dietary needs based on their local climates and topographies. Alternatively, if we just worked to build a planet that didnt have regions of extreme poverty they would be able to import and consume a variety of foods like Westerners do.
Environmental issues are complex, often contradictory, but the bottom line is the environment world-wide continues to decline and the pace of destruction is increasing. MASSIVE DECLINES in wildlife and fish populations have already come to pass and massive habitat loss, tragic extinctions, loss of biodiversity, depletion of fresh water and human impact on climate are at hand and conservatives exemplified by Prager contribute nothing to reversing these trends.
Isn't this the organization that vandalized an archaeological site in Peru?
Thanks for the wake up call. i stopped donating.
Wait, there is no Chlorine/chloramine in drinking water. The chlorine is in the tap water which is for washing your dishes and clothes and other things. The chlorine/chloramine is in there to protect the pipes to prevent he build-up of biofilms. I don't know if it is an issue in gas form from showers and faucets though.
When I was young, I admired Green Peace and their efforts... When I became an adult, I realized they were no better than Earth Firsters and the PETA nuts. I thought I had simply lost my naivete, but it seems the organization transformed as I was growing up.
I don't think saving 2,000,000 starving kids is a good thing in the long run. More people =more problems. Condoms and better birth control would serve us all better in those countries. We're constantly trying to get more and more people living in unsustainable areas.
so killing people = beneficial to society.
yes,exactly.
give it a century or so,and people will be praising adolf hitler.
the vegan,dog loving,art loving gentlemen who abused human stupidity like no other,and has partaken in the deaths of a few millions.
If people are too "thick" to understand to not take that statement literally to kill or actually LET kids die, it's not my problem.
hebber1961
really? you showed no signs of not being serious.
Do you have a head cold?
So tell me, are we allowed to consume any Sodium-Chloride (NaCl)?
No you will have to do with out salt :)
No.... If greenpeace succeds, basic knoledge
No! In addition, we should no longer tolerate the consumption of or the industrial/agricultural use of the chemical Dihydrogen Monoxide!
www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Now if the public would only wake up to the Suzuki Foundation! Thank you for this
For a good time, ask Mr. Moore if he'd like to drink some glyphosate.
Greenpeace failed its primary green objective which is to push alternative energy forward and lower its cost.
Yeah that should be the objective/mission. They failed their own mission.
Sari Çizmeli Mehmet Ağa Check the miles deep caves where they store the waste for 100.000 years and tell me ‘it’s clean’ again.
@@Izingana That's why it's miles deep. That way, unless nature decides otherwise with a massive earthquake, the waste will slowly deteriorate into mostly harmless elements. The only problem might be if it was stored too close to the area's water table, something not very likely.
Sari Çizmeli Mehmet Ağa For you no problem, ofcourse, but your kids and grandkids..
jchinckley 100.000 years before it’s harmless! Do you know how many things happened/changed in this world the past 2000 years alone?! Politics, wars, desasters, technology..
This guy once said in an interview that glyphosate was safe to drink, that you 'could drink a whole quart of it'. When the interviewer gave him a glass of the stuff to drink, he bolted from the interview. Glyphosate is now on a list of probable carcinogens.
This sums up mostly all "peace" movements nowadays.
*Cough Cough, PETA*
It’s been airs ALWAYS been a joke. As early as 1979 they didn’t know what they were doing. My dad was the safety engineer at the Trojan Nuclear facility. Greenpeace convinced a news agency in Portland…go figure…that this electricity generator was going to kill everyone and everything. They thought it was basically a nuclear bomb. Cameras and boats for film crew created their own armada. Radioactive sensors, vials for water collection, machines testing for air quality galore. My dad cold literally watch them go by. He had my exact sense of humor and laughed when he told this. Their little savior flotilla carved straight past the plant and struck gold!! Yeah, the very tiny amount of radioactive waste was coming from a hospital. Greenpeace didn’t care one bit about the environment. Let me repeat…they didn’t care one bit about the environment. If they did the segment would’ve aired and revealed what they found with suggestions about how to make this disposal safe. Nope….nada. Their lies helped fuel the publics opinion on shutting down the safest, cleanest and most renewable resource for generating electricity we have. You won’t get a China Syndrome ( a movie fiction where the source will burn through the earths crust and reach China….I’m not kidding) which is what they claimed. You can’t use a nuclear power plants source to build a bomb. For those of you still clinging to medieval thinking, we’ve had nuclear submarines since the 50’s. This is what happens when adults make laws based on the protests of children still in college. Well done
He sounds like he's reading a script he was just handed verbatim.
+Stokes A le evul boogeman cunsperacee!
To me he sounds like a guy who's not used to public speaking, who wrote up what he wanted to say in somewhat stilted language, and then is reading it out.
Of course he's not gonna sound good. Doesn't mean the words are someone else's.
It's pretty obvious he's just reading what's on the teleprompter in front of him. It's not like this is the first patsy to appear on this propaganda shitter of a channel. These Rightards don't even try to hide the bias that they're constantly spewing on a regular basis.
+Fa Que le evuul right boogeyman am rite lefties? lel
For the record, his manner of speaking is all I was criticizing.
I love Greenpeace for the work they do in Africa, today. I volunteered with GP three years (no pay just giving my energy for the benefit of all in my country. Greenpeace accept no money from governments or companies - only individual donors like us. Many people all over the planet feel that without their vigilant presence we would be finished. Humanity is ascending and evolving. In future, our levels of compassion and cooperation will be higher and a world of non-violence is possible. It begins in your imagination. Deepest thanks and I salute everybody who has ever given part of their lives to serve in the best job you have ever done. Bless you. Peace to you.
Canadian from Alberta here.... this feelings over facts hogwash is why Alberta may eventually leave Canada!
The Real Talk with Jacob Wilson I’d seriously consider it the way things are going, especially if we can’t get rid of Justin Trudeau!
Anybody else finding that these videos are informational than the bulk of the classes they took in college? Less rhetoric, jargon, and Sophistry?
Keep it up Pager U!
I do!! Such illuminating videos that explain how to interpret things. Why didn't they teach me at school, and let these competent people speak? :-)
*Why I left VICE & VOX 2020*
“Golden rice” from what I read, in over 20 independent studies it has shown zero improvement on the eyesight of those eating it.
Vitamin A deficiency causes irreversible eye damage. The purpose of providing golden rice is to allow those who do not have eye damage yet to avoid it, and also to prevent other complications of vitamin A deficiency like weak immune systems.
As for "biological inavailability", read the article in Am J Clin Nutr. 89 (6): 1776-83.
Functional foods does not unevoquely heals. Some could be use for therapies but it is not common to use for treatments. Functional foods could prevent complications from happening, so it's better to consume them before any health complications and sickness from happening. It's better to prevent than to try to heal
I'm no fan of GMOs however that rice is intriguing. Didn't know it existed.
It was rice modified with vitamin A to prevent blindness in children in 3rd world countries
Brought to you by the oil companies*
This is the same guy who claimed drinking round up was safe
He left because better money came from another place.
I've been a member of greenpeace since 1977.and i won't be giving up on them any time soon.
> *GMO plants and crops save millions of lives.*
GreenPeace : I am going to end these people’s whole career.
Respect for being one of the early members of Green Peace. I place chlorine up there with penicillin. Science was my third weakest subject in school.
2:41 "You need to know some science" As if you do.
Good for you Mr.Moore! A man with practical sense and not afraid to use it.
I’d trust Mr Moore if he wasn’t sharing this information on PragerU
I am very suspicious of these claims about how "wonderful" golden rice is. Most of the genetically engineered food right now seems to not be very healthy.
I do admire Dr. Patrick Moore but his take on GE (genetic engineering) does bother me. It bothers me a great deal. There is simply no argument that things like BT corn are a world health disaster as are GE pesticide resistant plants. The first problem with GE is that some changes are physically and chemically impossible in nature. The second problem is that GE is far from a precise science.
Finally, it is only recently that significant independent (of industry and government) research into the harm GE is imposing upon the environment is being conducted. This research is often showing completely unexpected unintended consequences of these GE modifications.
The most serious problem with GE is that when imposed upon the world there is no 'calling it back.' Once you have introduced a DNA change or RNA change you can not then say 'Oopsie, we need to pull that one back---and then do it!' If it has been released into the environment you have lost all control.
My existence as I grew I became More and more distrustful and suspicious
of everything...2018, October... it’s still the case...
A bunch of nuts. It takes time to grow up. Most do it by 21.
This example of corruption of noble initial ideals happens so often. It is a great parallel to the same problem in so many organisations. A great warning not only against Greenpeace itself, but to be alert and judge causes in its full picture: not just the green but also the peace, and not buying into sensationalism, misinformation and fear they promote.
I tried to find something about Greenpeace wanting to ban chlorine but only found one article about chlorine gas being dangerous when isolated (which it like... totally is). There was nothing about banning chlorine as a whole?
I recently saw some advert about teaching children how to protect the planet by going green and planting things. These same children are then taught why mass immigration is good, and never once does it cross over that having a mass migration of human beings to greener countries is completely counter intuitive to saving the environment.
As you have more people moving to and being born in richer countries, that means more industry, which means more use of resources, which means more green spaces being covered over to build houses.
The reality is there are factors people don't ever want to admit to on what is causing real damage. Planting a few trees doesn't matter for shit when the growing human population is burning through all precious resource faster then it can be replenished.
When you say there are to many people in the world, your labeled a sociopath for saying it, despite it being overwhelmingly true.
4:05 Dark Souls death sound
I was asked to join Greenpeace by a total stoner guy at a community college, I gave a false name then said I didn't have a job to donate so I went to class
I'm an artist. I draw with my pencils every day. I hope they don't ban pencils one day. Trees? Lead? (I know there is no lead in it. But who care).
Greenpeace claims that Moore didn't actually found the organization. Is it true?
Moore was an original co-founder...read his book Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout!
It's like in Germany where most of the founders of the green party have left the party.
I used to be a member of Friends of the Earth, but Golden Rice was the red flag for me too.
If a GMO crop is drought resistant, or needs less fertiliser, or pesticide, why isn't that a good thing? In the UK, agriculture is the biggest source of pollution in our rivers. Why would it be bad to reduce that pollution? In the Third World a drought resistant crop would literally be a life-saver; but if it's a GMO crop it's automatically proclaimed as evil.
I just wanted clean air to breathe, and clean water to drink - that's why I joined.But they generate all this dogma, which members rarely question.So I left.
Interesting, Tow things
1. I agree, Chlorine isn't a bad element, we just add a tiny amount to drinking water, medicines, swimming pools and other things we use, to make them better. The problem with chlorine is if e add too much. And I've only had one Chemistry class so far, and it was in HIGH SCHOOL!
2. This unfortunately is what happens with certain organizations. As membership shifts, world politics progress and new developments are made, an organization can go through big change, for better, or for worse.
I moved away from Greenpeace for many of the reason Patrick Moore gives. I have also found over the years that these organisations seem to go on to be too political in the end. However, I am still uncomfortable about GMO foods as we really do not know the long term effect they could have on health or the environment. Scientists can also be blind when it comes to their favourite projects.
too bad youve already eaten GMO. Most foods are GMO for higher yields.
Every movement that gains traction will inevitably get run over by people who do not care about said movement, they just want power.
and they even tell lego to end their partnership with shell.
Patrick Moore saying that Greenpeace departed from science is like the pot calling the kettle black.
Having A Greenorange Problem call employment center
These days, Green Peace talks about household emissions, while the world talks about nuclear war emissions and the fear of it.
Soviet novel "12 chairs". About corruption at Greenpeace:
“The manager of the second home for elderly women was not just a thief. He was a shy thief. His whole being protested against theft, but he could not help stealing.
Alchen: And here is a combined brass band!
But when Ostap opened the door, there was only one old woman in the room with one single trumpet.
Ostap Bender: Okay. Where are the other instruments?
After the words "other instruments" Alchen felt unbearably ashamed. He had sold almost all the wind instruments a long time ago, and now he was in terrible agony.
Alchen: And here we cook porridge for old ladies!
Ostap: *smelled the smell of burnt porridge* Cook in engine oil?
Alchen: Well, what are you, we cook in pure butter...of course there are not enough money, but old women eat! And with great pleasure!
In addition to the old women, Alchen's cousins and relatives of his wife, in the number of five young guys about twenty years old, were sitting at the table. These young people were not in harmony with the tasks of social security either by age or gender. But nevertheless, they lived in the house on old womans rights and stole everything in the house that Alchen did not manage to steal."