Worst MMO Ever? - Arcfall

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  • Опубліковано 18 чер 2021
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    Mum can we have World of Warcraft!
    No, we're got world of Warcraft at home.
    Arcfall is what happens when someone says 'All the players say they want a classic, modern, casual, hardcore, old school, new idea crafting based MMO, I'm going to make that!'
    And then they discover players who complain there aren't any good mmo's don't actually want a good mmo, they want to complain.
    Thanks to the Patreon supporters and Twitch subs for keeping the channel alive!
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  • @arcfall4705
    @arcfall4705 3 роки тому +3421

    Thanks for the review, come check Arcfall out after next update as we are busy with a major new action based combat system update which should fix the lag problems.

    • @nofiox31
      @nofiox31 3 роки тому +198

      wow can't wait

    • @AdoobII25
      @AdoobII25 3 роки тому +90

      Thanks for addressing the issue! I am definitely gonna try it out, looks promising:)

    • @Darkflo23
      @Darkflo23 3 роки тому +873

      Will it also include the removal of numerous Terraria and Wow sounds used illegaly?

    • @Alqha
      @Alqha 3 роки тому +275

      @@Darkflo23 GET THEIR ASSES LMFAO

    • @Darkflo23
      @Darkflo23 3 роки тому +562

      @@Alqha Seriously, a Wow clone with stolen and prebuilt assets, non fonctioning combat and endgame, but you can bet that the Cash Shop is lag free and easy to access. It really show the priorities of the Devs.

  • @heraditestreamingarchive1100
    @heraditestreamingarchive1100 3 роки тому +2531

    Interesting balance idea. The more you level-up, get skills, and better equipment the more laggy the combat is.

    • @LockedOnTargetShow
      @LockedOnTargetShow 3 роки тому +74

      I think they came up with it after playing smash bros ultimate online, jumped into a time machine and it's the one feature they stole from Nintendo thinking it will make their game a hit.

    • @mischoe1
      @mischoe1 3 роки тому +33

      Sounds like Path of Exile

    • @Blazingwheel
      @Blazingwheel 3 роки тому +3

      I thought he started to lag because of new weapon

    • @unmeinks5907
      @unmeinks5907 3 роки тому +13

      *cough* risk of rain 2

    • @acidsteve9837
      @acidsteve9837 3 роки тому +10

      AY thats already every game on my laptop! (i play life on hardmode)

  • @hotarusama5826
    @hotarusama5826 3 роки тому +755

    "It's like Orion's Belt, a big waist of space."
    That was great. I have to remember that line.

  • @renemuller7383
    @renemuller7383 3 роки тому +389

    I love how his first instinct was the "quit" button after he took a look at the shop.

    • @SuperYtc1
      @SuperYtc1 3 роки тому +10

      Yh noticed that subtle joke haha.

  • @tinkerroblox7247
    @tinkerroblox7247 3 роки тому +458

    These episodes really are a masterclass on game user experience design. I’m over here just pen and paper “write that down, write that down!”. The details to which you’re able to pick apart the background functionality that usually goes un-identified is great.

    • @darianstarfrog
      @darianstarfrog 2 роки тому +35

      Exactly ..potential mmo creators should be watching his whole library before designing their own game.. all the answers of how to make it work, are in here

    • @rennie5693
      @rennie5693 2 роки тому +7

      haha, i'm doing the same thing. even the silly stuff he mentions i've been writing down

    • @MVPUnlucky
      @MVPUnlucky 2 роки тому +20

      "Note to self. less cicada noises"

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Рік тому +9

      yeah, I'm genuinely amazed by how well this dude knows good game design. He also notices a lot of really subtle stuff that I'm not sure I would have ever considered otherwise!

    • @Zakkleberg
      @Zakkleberg Рік тому +3

      I was actually thinking a few days ago, that if I ever made an MMO, I'd start by watching the entirety of this series first so I could figure out what not to do

  • @Ollidol
    @Ollidol 3 роки тому +506

    Once an early access game starts charging money whether it's directly from steam or a cash shop in game, when you expect people to give you money it's open for critique

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 роки тому +52

      I totally support that idea. Once they want money, they thing the game is good enough that people pay something.
      It's a different thing if they ask nicely for donations on their website. Just a liittle button or something.
      They can't even cover behind the "but we're still working on content" excuse, because that is something that all MMOs do. They constantly add new content, that you can play with your existing characters. It's one of the appeals of a persistent world.

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine 3 роки тому +33

      I mean, it should always be open to critique since early access should be about getting feedback for developers who can't afford a tone of beta testers.
      It's just how that critique should be taken that should change.
      "Games a jankie mess" can mean something very different when its in early development vs finished.

    • @Krasshirsch
      @Krasshirsch 3 роки тому +18

      @@Bustermachine Everything is always open to critique, the entire reason for early access is to polish the game which requires critique.

    • @Ollidol
      @Ollidol 3 роки тому +11

      @@Bustermachine I think there is a difference between feedback and critique.
      One is possitive to make the product better while the other is more negative.

    • @AunCollective
      @AunCollective 3 роки тому +4

      @@Krasshirsch I was going to post something about there being nothing wrong with adding more Polish to a game early on, but everything I wrote wasn't funny.
      Just leave the Czech out of your critiques, though.. k?

  • @tagercraft99
    @tagercraft99 3 роки тому +2453

    Fun fact: Those models aren't theirs, that's an asset pack in the unity store I myself have and worked with, you can buy it for like 70 bucks each, male and then female

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 роки тому +249

      At least they bought it (I hope) and didn't go with free assets like so many hobby "projects" that try to sell themselves.

    • @notatrollll
      @notatrollll 3 роки тому +138

      My main issue and concern would be micro transactions of paid assets. If the free or paid game includes paid assets that is legal to me. But say they paywall assets on their store, imo that is reselling your project, not their own. That would be like reselling mp3s you bought from an artist.

    • @DarkStar14n
      @DarkStar14n 3 роки тому +137

      Also a few of the death sounds have been literally ripped straight from Terraria. I 100% recognise one as the Zombie death sound.

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 3 роки тому +22

      Jim Sterling: Why the F*** do I hear Gate's bloody theme from Mega Man X6?

    • @ababilashari9970
      @ababilashari9970 3 роки тому +119

      @@notatrollll no, they're free to sell it cause they bought the rights to include it in their game...then are free to provide a purchase option to access the assets in the game. They are not selling the rights for the player to extract the asset from the game files to use outside the boundries of the game. So it's legal.
      Game is shit tho, but that's for Josh to elaborate on.

  • @SalvadorDolbyvsZAWARUDO
    @SalvadorDolbyvsZAWARUDO 3 роки тому +1965

    "A perfectly balanced game with no exploits"
    Indeed. *sips Yorkshire Tea*

    • @oldbatwit5102
      @oldbatwit5102 3 роки тому +15

      You rich people!
      I'm drinking Typhoo, from Poundland.

    • @PhilBoswell
      @PhilBoswell 3 роки тому +5

      Original, or the divine Biscuit Brew? (Although I'm not dissing the other flavours, they're all good ;-)

    • @dieSpinnt
      @dieSpinnt 3 роки тому +57

      @@PhilBoswell This is a Spiffing Brit(UA-camr, Game-Exploiter-Extraordinaire, Gentleman-Tee-Lover and Joker) reference.
      Have a good one, cheers:)

    • @PhilBoswell
      @PhilBoswell 3 роки тому +6

      @@dieSpinnt thanks, I vaguely recognised the reference, but I was also curious about the tea ☕

    • @RisaKazura
      @RisaKazura 3 роки тому +59

      Ah, you beautiful sausage. Let us toast to Reanu Keeves together.

  • @DFalco-nz5tl
    @DFalco-nz5tl 2 роки тому +28

    This is so frustrating because my initial response to the weird bug like the map button not working and the crafting system being unintuitive is "Dang that sucks but they're trying and maybe they'll figure it out one day!" But then I remember there's a cash shop with $50+ bullshit in it and i instantly hate the developer.

  • @ericb3157
    @ericb3157 3 роки тому +401

    "cicada noise" reminds me of several old Flash games that had chirping bird noises...VERY LOUD BIRDS!
    seriously, they are louder than GUNSHOTS!
    and YES, the games i'm thinking of DO have GUNS!
    one of them is called "Storm the house 3"...a really silly name, since the player is DEFENDING the house!

    • @Ikxi
      @Ikxi 3 роки тому +52

      I hate that my brain just has to read every CAPITAL word in a SCREAMING voice
      It's quite ANNOYING

    • @Syngrafer
      @Syngrafer 3 роки тому +10

      @@Ikxi I think that's intentional.

    • @airplanemaniacgaming7877
      @airplanemaniacgaming7877 3 роки тому +9

      @@Ikxi I think that's because the way we see caps we think "jeez, they must be trying to get a point across."

    • @siegwardinspirit
      @siegwardinspirit 3 роки тому +8

      @@Ikxi just change it to a guy screaming from very far away.

    • @chrisspiker5422
      @chrisspiker5422 Рік тому +1

      @@siegwardinspirit Quick fix, you're a genius.

  • @dansharpe2364
    @dansharpe2364 3 роки тому +174

    The logo looks like it's for a Swedish heavy rock band who are heavily influenced by Magnum. The band Magnum from Birmingham, not the chocolate covered ice cream on a stick.

    • @twizz420
      @twizz420 3 роки тому +9

      What about Trojan Magnum?

    • @twizz420
      @twizz420 3 роки тому +2

      IMO the logo looks like it was made by a 12 year old who just found a can of spray paint in his dad's garage and thinks he's going to be the next banksy

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 роки тому +4

      The logo looks unbalanced, the l in the end would need to be bigger. There is a massive A at one side and the capital F right in the middle, but then there is nothing on the right.
      Oh, and don't forget magnum ammunition

    • @AxeGaijin
      @AxeGaijin 3 роки тому +7

      I prefer my Magnum's in big flowery shirts driving a Ferrari 308.

    • @dansharpe2364
      @dansharpe2364 3 роки тому +2

      @@AxeGaijin I am so glad that someone said that.

  • @SebastianSkadisson
    @SebastianSkadisson 3 роки тому +69

    I love this series, most people probably have no clue how valuable game design videos are where you are clearly told what not to do in game design.

  • @annana6098
    @annana6098 2 роки тому +29

    Booty Bay and Stranglethorn, right down to the troll architecture scattered around. I think the devs decided to make their own Warcraft, but with blackjack and hookers, and then realized that making an MMO is really hard--as you frequently mention in this series. I occasionally daydream my own MMORPG ideas, but in the end I know I couldn't do it myself and it's mostly a creative writing exercise.

  • @HinokasArabfan1
    @HinokasArabfan1 3 роки тому +209

    That jump animation. The greatest jump animation of all time.

  • @talhazubayurulislam9599
    @talhazubayurulislam9599 3 роки тому +517

    Aaaand he's back to the eternal cycle of suffering
    Stay strong Mr. Josh

  • @jaimemorales155
    @jaimemorales155 3 роки тому +59

    I was going through this and thought to myself "It does not look that bad" until I saw the grid equipped items menu THAT'S where I draw the line...
    Heresy.

    • @juliocezarsilva5979
      @juliocezarsilva5979 Рік тому +1

      I can't believe they didn't purposely shuffle the slots. This almost takes more effort than doing the right thing EVERY other MMO does. It's like setting up for a career as a lawyer, but not only are you very bad at understanding law, you always wear your pants on your head, and your blazer on your feet

  • @JennFaeAge
    @JennFaeAge 3 роки тому +54

    "We've got Warcraft at home" might be my favourite rating yet

  • @garethdavies2093
    @garethdavies2093 3 роки тому +43

    I admit i'm petty, the most infuriating thing about this entire game... the progress bars going full to empty (or black / blue inverted).

    • @Bhilithinn
      @Bhilithinn 3 роки тому +2

      Yes! That was bugging me too.

  • @zoneyx23j
    @zoneyx23j 3 роки тому +33

    At 12:35, when talking about the weight limit it appears underneath the hunger bar. The bar with the anvil icon says 200/200 and when he switches the character page it says he is currently carrying 200 weight

    • @funkie1221
      @funkie1221 Рік тому

      Great catch!

    • @jjohnorrea
      @jjohnorrea Рік тому +1

      to be fair it’s very poorly done and shows the oversight of the devs haha

    • @WiseOwl_1408
      @WiseOwl_1408 7 місяців тому

      ​@@jjohnorrea to be fair guy nitpicks everything but misses lots

    • @myoak108
      @myoak108 5 місяців тому +2

      @@WiseOwl_1408 Welcome to journalistic review, just like active players he won't be perfect as if watching a video and can control playback at your leisure.

  • @missallegra7568
    @missallegra7568 2 роки тому +300

    I wonder if Josh has ended up saving any of these MMOs, either by bringing an audience to it or just by laying out all the biggest flaws in one place for developers to look at

    • @hawkticus_history_corner
      @hawkticus_history_corner 2 роки тому +53

      Fallen Earth seems to have gotten a player boost since his video. Its how I found out about it

    • @dutchandtheleftlanders9499
      @dutchandtheleftlanders9499 Рік тому +50

      Wurm online got a balance change and a reply from the devs

    • @missallegra7568
      @missallegra7568 Рік тому +22

      @@dutchandtheleftlanders9499 that's wild and I love it

    • @Jokoko2828
      @Jokoko2828 10 місяців тому +2

      Pretty sure the skeleton apocalypse one got a boost of people after the video.

    • @politenonparticipant4859
      @politenonparticipant4859 9 місяців тому +8

      ​@Jokoko2828 Yeah, after Josh reviewed it, Animyst got updates despite development having been dropped prior to that.

  • @tungstenwall474
    @tungstenwall474 3 роки тому +25

    00:36
    Maybe it is time to make a blue-marble wall with names on it?

    • @Thornscale
      @Thornscale 3 роки тому +3

      That sounds like a DREAM come true!
      I think it may be the best idea in the WORLD!

  • @nottrevorallen
    @nottrevorallen 3 роки тому +72

    im from the US south and the cicada noise is accurate to where i live
    honestly i can hear some of my thoughts still so it might even be too quiet

    • @theatfshotmydog8224
      @theatfshotmydog8224 3 роки тому +4

      For real, I’m in Texas and when I’m outside for a while and go inside my ears are still ringing from the damn Cicadas.

    • @redhot2976
      @redhot2976 3 роки тому +1

      I visit my family in Mississippi about five times a year, and in the summer, the cicadas are SO LOUD. I live in Florida so they aren't that bad here but is there more in Mississippi or something???

    • @KlaussMarcellus
      @KlaussMarcellus 3 роки тому +3

      I'm not even from the US and those cicada noises were pretty familiar to me, very accurate actually.
      Here we gently call those sounds as ''summer sounds''.

    • @siegwardinspirit
      @siegwardinspirit 3 роки тому +3

      horny insects go brrrrrrrrr

    • @currently_In_stealth_behind_u
      @currently_In_stealth_behind_u 2 роки тому

      good thing this is a living in south us simulator o wait

  • @206Zelda
    @206Zelda 3 роки тому +45

    The combat with the sheep reminds me of when I got Resurrection Sickness in WoW (many years ago) and punched a sheep to death, which took roughly 3 minutes.
    Don't ask me why; that's a question for past-me to answer. And the past-me thought that was a good idea, so there you have it.

  • @elianwyn
    @elianwyn 3 роки тому +29

    Kal-Da Moor sounds conspicuously close to Kalimdor...

    • @bleukreuz
      @bleukreuz 3 роки тому +4

      Totally. WoW clone for sure. Similar graphics, similar item/ability icons, etc...

    • @kuro7607
      @kuro7607 3 роки тому +1

      I had the same feeling. Especially with the heavy WoW style/aesthetics.

    • @KlaussMarcellus
      @KlaussMarcellus 3 роки тому +1

      Glad to see i'm not the only one who noticed

  • @nigoulenoblehiboux9812
    @nigoulenoblehiboux9812 3 роки тому +67

    I can't wait for the patreon name to be in a ridiculously small font size like 5.

    • @ericb3157
      @ericb3157 3 роки тому +9

      oh, just today i read a fan-story where the "fine print" on a company contract was font size ONE.
      i think it was a parody of Amazon.

    • @zachariahm.kemper7406
      @zachariahm.kemper7406 3 роки тому +4

      I can't wait for 0.5

    • @darkmaphesto
      @darkmaphesto 3 роки тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing when he said that

  • @BabyShenanigans
    @BabyShenanigans 3 роки тому +26

    I feel like the game models were rigged by someone who has never seen a biped move.

  • @xchronox0
    @xchronox0 Рік тому +4

    "Pre-alpha" always gets me. Alpha means in development. So, this is... pre development? There wouldn't even be an application to launch at this stage unless it was a prototype.

  • @AtheistPirate
    @AtheistPirate 3 роки тому +17

    Hard mode: inscribe the names of every Patreon on a single grain of rice.

  • @dousan6515
    @dousan6515 3 роки тому +18

    ​Just getting caught up on this one, I keep having to pause on the brutal one liners LOL "NO. We've got Warcraft at home."

  • @PhoeniXBG
    @PhoeniXBG 3 роки тому +14

    I really like how the "Complete" clips outside of the boundaries of the button as well.

    • @Sheevlord
      @Sheevlord 3 роки тому +2

      The buttons are small and have a lot of wasted space around them too. So there is no reason for them to be this small. Not to mention that good games have automatic text size scaling so the text always fits when the container size is fixed. Developers figured this out years ago.

  • @barry-allenthe-flash8396
    @barry-allenthe-flash8396 3 роки тому +31

    "... a Hunger mechanic, because _they've_ always been known to make games consistently more fun" lmao (^-^) I thought I was the only one who hated those things! Boy, it is so nice to hear someone else rail against them and the useless busywork they add to anything.

    • @errortryagainlater4240
      @errortryagainlater4240 3 роки тому +13

      I absolutely hate hunger (and stamina most of the time) because people say they add ~realism~ but I refuse to believe that a superpowered chosen one would keel over and die because they didn't eat bread in two hours.

    • @siegwardinspirit
      @siegwardinspirit 3 роки тому +5

      I do enjoy food mechanics, though I vastly prefer a buff system to hunger mechanics, unless it's thematically fitting. Like the game Fear & Hunger. Yeah, it's in the name.

    • @user-bo6vy5eg8g
      @user-bo6vy5eg8g 2 роки тому +3

      @@siegwardinspirit Or in, say, Don't Starve. It's obvious.

    • @Adzelio
      @Adzelio Рік тому +2

      @@siegwardinspirit Even a minor debuff system wouldn't be too terrible. Losing one or two points here and there for not eating for the last ten hours sounds like it'd just make sense honestly. Losing health though just seems silly.

  • @mmuscat
    @mmuscat 2 роки тому +11

    This series is seriously so therapeutic & I have no clue why

  • @AunCollective
    @AunCollective 3 роки тому +227

    Arcfall. It's like RuneScape if you stripped out nearly every quality I love about it that makes it unique and fun.
    You can grind skills. Generic MMO skills. Poorly explained systems. Slow-paced combat that's of the "almost die to one mob, heal, take on second mob, die if you pull 2" variety.
    It's a grinder without a reason to grind. A somewhat sandbox with not enough sand or tools.
    Perfect MMO for someone with insomnia that needs to fall asleep.
    Meg didn't like it. I felt like there should be a game here for me but after 25-30 hours, it didn't change.
    Curious to see Josh's take. I don't see him enjoying this one.

    • @Zack_Wester
      @Zack_Wester 3 роки тому +4

      I do like the die if you pull more then 2 mobs at the same time.
      that said you need other player for it to work because when any mobs that can group you will kill you, you will go out of your way to try and team up this is a MMO after all.
      Played Star wars the Old republic beta when it came out and I did not team up like every because I did not.
      the only reason why I knew I was online was because there was peaple in the General chat and my wow guild (I think our Guild leader got some keys or something).
      that was trying the game was chatting about in /guild chat.
      the only thing I remmber from that was when our guild leader said in /g everyone type /facepalm
      everyone typed /facepalm and across the universe 100 of peaple facepalmed for no reason (whit animation wow did not have a facepalm animation at that time if they have one now).

    • @AunCollective
      @AunCollective 3 роки тому +3

      @@Zack_Wester It's not so much that the needing to group to take on multiple mobs mechanic is an issue.. I agree that an MMORPG shouldn't be something a single person blitzes through. It's when the game is designed in such a way where the focus shifts from interacting with a virtual world to the game mechanics themselves. Arcfall felt less like a dangerous world where I needed to be careful while exploring and engaging in combat and more a waiting game where I hoped RNG went my way and no extra mobs respawned or walked over to ruin my already tedious leveling experience. Even when bringing along others, combat felt like it interfered with exploration and learning crafting skills and no lore or story elements were present anywhere to give me a reason to overlook the slow-paced combat.
      I really, really wanted to like Arcfall, but it was a case of everytime I would start to get immersed in the world, questionable design would pull me back out.
      And as I watch this video, I'm reminded of all of the reasons outside of combat I gave up on this game after 3 separate tries and my wife gave up after about an hour.

  • @dylanwright8757
    @dylanwright8757 3 роки тому +17

    bro that wasn't just similar to the Zandalari port, that was literally the Zandalari port. I almost died laughing, they even got the little building on the left where you que up for island expeditions lmao

    • @wolfgalleader
      @wolfgalleader 2 роки тому

      It looks like a ripped model just different shaders and lighting

  • @Nioureux
    @Nioureux 3 роки тому +39

    I have a theory, they forgot to implement enemy respawning for those areas and the players just killed all of them already

  • @user-ov6jg4ug9d
    @user-ov6jg4ug9d 3 роки тому +46

    I think it would be great to make a mini series where you make a tier list of all these MMOs you have covered to crown the worst of the worst.
    Loving this series btw thank you for going through hell on our behalf lol

    • @nekoluxuria7721
      @nekoluxuria7721 2 роки тому +3

      (UN)Fortunalely isekai demon waifu wont be on the list

  • @atiredfloridian777
    @atiredfloridian777 3 роки тому +194

    ...when the preview showed us that they'd forgotten enemies, I internally groaned and knew *exactly* what I was in for.
    Or I thought I did. I mean I knew my expectations were low but holy fuck.

    • @KankaWasTaken
      @KankaWasTaken 3 роки тому +22

      to be fair, the game isnt finished yet so they will maybe add them later. But then again its been 4 years..so maybe they wont

    • @shammydammy2610
      @shammydammy2610 3 роки тому +15

      @@KankaWasTaken Hahahahaha...no.

    • @riftbandit223
      @riftbandit223 3 роки тому +15

      Their COMING! The dragons are coming! Just wait for another four years!

    • @KankaWasTaken
      @KankaWasTaken 3 роки тому +2

      @Caleb Comer All I said is they may still add them. Thats just a possibility. Im not even defending them lmao

    • @gigglepants3006
      @gigglepants3006 3 роки тому +1

      @@shammydammy2610 Well they just said that they paused adding enemies because theu are updating the combat to action combat.
      Adding enemies which need to be recoded to an action combat style would be a waste of time.

  • @Kosackk
    @Kosackk 3 роки тому +93

    The game looks really cozy and so on, but gameplay is also important...

    • @IDrawOthers
      @IDrawOthers 3 роки тому

      I really like the island setting tbh

    • @jacksepticeyesdadisburning7982
      @jacksepticeyesdadisburning7982 3 роки тому +13

      I would legit check this out if it was made by a proven MMO company and y'know...not in this bad of a state. The graphics don't look bad and it actually feels like they are trying instead of shitting out an asset flip.

    • @MsTerkup
      @MsTerkup 3 роки тому

      The style just makes me want to jump in to RS3 honestly

  • @LordBaaleos
    @LordBaaleos 3 роки тому +6

    I lol’d so hard ‘bandit starting the fight in the traditional form of vibrating rapidly’ lol

  • @handler8838
    @handler8838 3 роки тому +8

    0:14 why must you seek enemies where there are none!?
    -Arcfall philosopher devs.

  • @ashenold
    @ashenold 3 роки тому +448

    This game LITERALLY ripped assets. so far I've heard Terraria and seen multiple WoW assets. They stole them.

    • @trevorweisberg8470
      @trevorweisberg8470 3 роки тому +85

      Oh thank god, I thought I was hearing things when I heard a terraria zombie dying.

    • @billyparker1896
      @billyparker1896 3 роки тому +16

      Wait Terraria? Isnt that a 2D Pixelstyle game? Wth did the steal from that?

    • @alyssavanderklift9296
      @alyssavanderklift9296 3 роки тому +26

      and the insanely obvious use of just a PIG's snort for the imps... nothing to process it in anyway to be less recognizable.... lazy sound design at best

    • @Nightstriker995
      @Nightstriker995 3 роки тому +24

      100% it did it screams WoW to me and I swear I heard some terraria sounds too. the icons are clearly WoW icons.

    • @runawaygemm5397
      @runawaygemm5397 3 роки тому +31

      @@billyparker1896 I think sound files

  • @walterwhite7924
    @walterwhite7924 3 роки тому +25

    Hmm neojac is a name I havnt heard in awhile. He was a dude selling a unity3d mmo framework called atavism back around the time this was launched. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a proof of concept or something.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 роки тому +1

      And for that it would be pretty good.

    • @TheCallumhutchy
      @TheCallumhutchy 3 роки тому +2

      I thought i recognised the name too. Just looked up Atavism and appears its been bought by another company in 2017 and only one post on MMORPG.com from Neojack exists about it. Bit weird if that's what this game is based on.

    • @gigglepants3006
      @gigglepants3006 3 роки тому

      In the top comment the developers said that they sold it to a bigger company.Since 2 people only work on this project.

  • @Skarwind
    @Skarwind 3 роки тому +15

    The sad part is that someone took the time to do something w/ this. Then they got lazy and probably picked the wrong genre to do anything with their time.

  • @xXbaker1025Xx
    @xXbaker1025Xx Рік тому +30

    Ahh yes, the good old days when you could actually read the names on Josh's patron list

  • @twizz420
    @twizz420 3 роки тому +152

    You need to rename this series "the second worst mmo of all time" because Dreamworld will always be the worst mmo of all time.

    • @Crypted112
      @Crypted112 3 роки тому +43

      dreamworld doesn't even have proper multiplayer so i dont even think it counts as an MMO

    • @benlev3375
      @benlev3375 3 роки тому +23

      It's a scam and it isn't an MMO. They haven't developed an actual MMO, only a broken demo without working multiplayer.

    • @alyssavanderklift9296
      @alyssavanderklift9296 3 роки тому +15

      @@Crypted112 indeed, scamworld does NOT and will NEVER count as an mmo. because just claiming one is an mmo... does not make one an mmo

    • @HenriqueRJchiki
      @HenriqueRJchiki 3 роки тому +9

      At least Dreamworld physically exists, Elyria was an even worse scam lmao

    • @206Zelda
      @206Zelda 3 роки тому

      Day of Dragons can get slipped into that list! Assign it to whatever position on the board you like!

  • @azynkron
    @azynkron 3 роки тому +41

    To paraphrase Pinhead: "Oh, how uncomfortable that word must feel on your lips, "evil", "good." There is no good, Monroe; there is no evil -- there is only shit MMOs, and the patterns to which we submit it."

  • @hexlart8481
    @hexlart8481 2 роки тому +3

    The carry limit I think is shown under your hunger bar. The little anvil. I noticed that bar went up whenever you picked something up.

  • @SpydersByte
    @SpydersByte Рік тому +1

    6:32 I nearly died at "marvel at how much the zoom changes with each click of the *wrong* button!" :'D

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 3 роки тому +17

    At the beginning when you were criticizing the logo design I was like : come on Josh you're just being petty. But by the end of the review I disliked that logo too lol

  • @danielcraft1971
    @danielcraft1971 3 роки тому +13

    I thought I might actually give this one a try for a laugh... until I saw the combat lag... that would be just too irritating.

  • @jakey........
    @jakey........ 2 роки тому +16

    I used to have cicadas outside of my apartment and trust that the game is not doing them justice it is unreal how loud they can get. Like you would have to shout to be heard over them to someone right next to you.
    When i learned thst the noise came from bugs i almost shat myself

    • @poohbear01x48
      @poohbear01x48 Рік тому +4

      Let alone a pretty good sized flying bug.
      Cicadas are definitely nightmare fuel if you don’t like creepy crawlies

    • @Ares9804
      @Ares9804 Рік тому

      I took it to mean that they are a) very loud and b) that the cicada sounds looped every 2 seconds (you can hear the track stop and restart)

  • @wolfsruhm
    @wolfsruhm 3 роки тому +5

    when i look at this game, i realize how the developers meeting for this went: Sooo how many assets can we copy/steal from WoW without getting sued?

  • @consistentlystupid4726
    @consistentlystupid4726 2 роки тому +11

    There's something very sad about seeing high level zones in an MMO where basically no one is ever going to get to end game. All of that work put into something, and no one is there to appreciate it.

    • @WiseOwl_1408
      @WiseOwl_1408 7 місяців тому

      Value or worth has nothing to do with effort or time involved

    • @ahriahvanor6690
      @ahriahvanor6690 7 місяців тому

      @@WiseOwl_1408they didn’t say anything about value or worth. They just said it’s sad nobody is going to see the hard work the devs put in

  • @joanlaraganau9532
    @joanlaraganau9532 3 роки тому +7

    12:15 I haven't played the game, but I can see the weight limit on the top left, below your hunger bar (it's 200/200 at that time).

  • @oneoranota
    @oneoranota Рік тому +2

    I assure you that cicadas in the south of France during summer are DEAPHENING. You can't hear anything else. So props to the game for acknowledging that.

  • @dorderre
    @dorderre 3 роки тому +30

    A totally balanced game with no exploits? - Well Someone's been watching the spiffing Brit ;)

  • @endgegnerwampe1438
    @endgegnerwampe1438 3 роки тому +19

    Can you look at foxhole, pls. Its a bit special, but they call themself a MMO and i like the game. I think it would be fun if you play the game. Maybe not in this series but in general.

    • @punishedbarca761
      @punishedbarca761 3 роки тому +6

      Foxhole is a super fun and unique experience but Josh isn't a fan of sandbox MMOs and that game needs you to be involved in the community to have a goal.

  • @possumkinggaming5617
    @possumkinggaming5617 3 роки тому +11

    I backed this game early. Its still in the same state basically,

    • @Beamin439
      @Beamin439 3 роки тому +1

      great idea you have excellent taste

  • @DamonDemolition
    @DamonDemolition 3 роки тому +4

    Its like they paid an external map designer but then the lead dev left the company and they pressed the release button

  • @jamesfarmer5967
    @jamesfarmer5967 2 роки тому

    i just love that you made a nice reference to the spiffing brit i love his "X is a perfectly balanced game." series

  • @arise3494
    @arise3494 3 роки тому +21

    Arcfall: Dev puts it on early access for 4 years
    7 Days to Die: “I’m about to end this man’s whole career”

    • @rheabyrne9822
      @rheabyrne9822 3 роки тому +6

      at least 7 days to die is fun with friends and doesn't have microtransactions

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order 3 роки тому +8

    Pre-watch comment: I tried Arkfall once. I liked the crafting but the game is pretty boring and theres not much land to explore. I gave up after a couple nights.

  • @spatialdistortion223
    @spatialdistortion223 Рік тому +1

    "Gordens Mine's"
    That...hurts my brain.

  • @kalinkapavlova9398
    @kalinkapavlova9398 3 роки тому +2

    I don't know why, maybe because "Tauranga" is an actual place in NZ and I'm a typical Kiwi who can get overly prideful of my country at times, but "Port Tauranga" is just jarring to look at in this random map in a game of dubious quality.

  • @patrickhutchison6465
    @patrickhutchison6465 Рік тому +4

    The "early access" nonsense is just being used as an excuse for not having enough content.

  • @RustyMerc
    @RustyMerc Рік тому +3

    It was a good concept, on launch it was packed and we were all stoked, a few missed and botched updates later and it crashed, it still is a great idea for an mmo that doesn’t hold your hand constantly and throw stuff at you left and right, actually had to do stuff to progress

  • @Trelior
    @Trelior 2 роки тому +4

    14:22 You know it's a good sign when your game's enemies animate as if they're a player with a ping over 600.

  • @FrogTonic
    @FrogTonic 2 роки тому

    I literally got an ad about swim suits right after you said swimming. 9:06

  • @calmkat9032
    @calmkat9032 3 роки тому +3

    first thing I noticed: the abilities have IDENTICAL icons to the Runescape warrior.

  • @sixeswild274
    @sixeswild274 3 роки тому +10

    Dang.. that empty world with no enemies reminds me of when I was barely a tween and the WOW alpha.. not beta.. Alpha.. got out. I remember my buddy and I exploring from Theramore, to Thousand Needles and then all the way up to the shores of inaccessible Teldrasil Isle... while riding a frozen glitched out model of a NE Hippogryph that slid along at ground level. Good times.

  • @WrestleRoniPlus
    @WrestleRoniPlus 3 роки тому

    Just found my new favorite UA-cam Series! Keep up the awesome work. New fan from West Virginia.

  • @Warwipf
    @Warwipf 2 роки тому +1

    Yo, I recognize those skill icons. I, too, am the proud owner of Spellbook Megapack and currently working with them lol

  • @aurondoxon3805
    @aurondoxon3805 3 роки тому +5

    Dev logic: "we don't have to script many quests if one quest takes you two hours to complete" lol

  • @endgegnerwampe1438
    @endgegnerwampe1438 3 роки тому +9

    Correct me if i am wrong, but the weight limmit is shown under the foodbar, wher also you healt is shown.

    • @JoshStrifeHayes
      @JoshStrifeHayes  3 роки тому +25

      in every video, i make 1 mistake on purpose because I KNOW people cant help but comment on it, it works every, single, time.

    • @endgegnerwampe1438
      @endgegnerwampe1438 3 роки тому +3

      @@JoshStrifeHayes I am the living proof :D Love your Videos.

    • @Blue_Sonnet
      @Blue_Sonnet 3 роки тому +4

      @@JoshStrifeHayes Like the copyright thing they do on maps? A master stroke - that way you'll know if someone from IGN watches your stuff!
      I'll also bet its a test to check that your viewers are paying attention 😉
      _(BTW I'm gonna start doing it from now on to make sure my manager is awake during meetings - the video is usually off on conference calls - I might randomly say we all work at McDonald's or call myself "Kevin")_

    • @bleukreuz
      @bleukreuz 3 роки тому +1

      @@JoshStrifeHayes Seems like a cop out, but a clever one. This way, if you do make a mistake/missed something in future videos then you can always say you did it on purpose. I really don't believe you will miss seeing the weight bar since you noticed the hunger bar immediately.

  • @BierBart12
    @BierBart12 8 місяців тому +1

    14:57 This kinda thing used to happen to me alll the damn time in WoW. An enemy would either randomly run off back to their default path/position, or freeze for few seconds before I suddenly fall over dead.
    Surely, these guys didn't copy WoW's netcode?

  • @danmystro
    @danmystro 11 місяців тому +1

    27:27 Skeleton death sounds awfully similar to the Terraria skeleton death XD

  • @Blue_Sonnet
    @Blue_Sonnet 3 роки тому +12

    I love how the spirit of Jim Stirling's series on Steam Greenlight is alive and well!
    No, wait... That series is almost a decade old.
    The prevalence of plagiarism and complete lack of oversight means that the stuff on Steam is still as scummy as ever. Basically Steam have refined plausable deniability online almost into an art.
    On another note, I wonder if DigiHom are still going? Last I saw he was also trying to make a cartoony-style MMO dungeon crawler thingy...

  • @daocvet
    @daocvet 2 роки тому +5

    Ironically there looks like there could be a good game there. It's as if the developers started with making a crafting game, and then decided halfway to make it something else, so they ended up never finishing it. Sad really.

  • @sworddev5798
    @sworddev5798 3 роки тому +2

    to be honest, it for an advanced kina thing to make a matching icon you need to kinda share information between it and the player then use that information to make the head copy the body it's fiddly and requires a lot of understanding of how codes sprites , materials, colors and arrays work I'm going on a limb and guessing they cant code

  • @AbyssalRook
    @AbyssalRook 3 роки тому +20

    While I do understand the frustration with post-facto telling you you've broken the name character limit, doing it this way lets you KNOW what the character limit is and that the name you've typed won't fit in it. If the text box just stopped you at 15 characters and let you hit 'Create', people would type the name and proceed without thinking and be stuck with names like "JoshStrifeHaye".
    A better fix would be to label the maximum character limit clearly above or below the box, allow more than 14 characters to be input, but highlight the box and additional text in red once you pass that threshold.

    • @BigPuddin
      @BigPuddin 2 роки тому +4

      Or...OR...how about they still impose the hard 15 character limit but have a little, pervasive message under the text box that tells you the limit to avoid confusing inattentive fuckwits? It should be a self-evident solution, but the people who made this were too busy huffing paint to implement this feature, homie.

    • @lunaeons45
      @lunaeons45 8 місяців тому

      Or just make it so you can only type the maximum and have info showing its the maximum.
      There's no reason to be able to type more than the maximum when you can make it so they can't do that

    • @AbyssalRook
      @AbyssalRook 8 місяців тому

      @lunaeons45 I covered the reason to allow you to do that in the second half of my first paragraph. So that people don't accidentally put in weird cut off versions of their name without noticing, while still giving a visual indicator of how much shorter the name has to be.

  • @MasterTeeee
    @MasterTeeee 3 роки тому +4

    Ahh... "Where quests start, and where quests end"...
    I feel like Baldur's Gate must have been before your time.

  • @Runemage1000
    @Runemage1000 3 роки тому +3

    I feel I gotta point out, that pretty much all of the ability and item icons are from asset packs, and something tells me they aren't being used as placeholders.

  • @yukil.spencer3848
    @yukil.spencer3848 3 роки тому

    Was binging the playlist earlier, perfect :D

  • @TheArmoredFox
    @TheArmoredFox 3 роки тому

    Haha, I jumped to a random part of your video and I literally thought the scene from the dock was you showing Wow footage for a second

  • @hmaerblood
    @hmaerblood 3 роки тому +5

    Some aspects of this game are really interesting... also that Dragon mount

  • @Ashlacon
    @Ashlacon 3 роки тому +9

    The spell icons are identical to some of the spell icons from MMORPG Tycoon. The bleeding sword on his 4 button and the arrow on 5 are the exact same icon.

    • @TheArtanis125
      @TheArtanis125 3 роки тому +3

      I think some of those are from some kind of icon pack, because I have seen the same ones used all around quite often.

    • @HeroLanding
      @HeroLanding 3 роки тому

      It almost look like all arrows have feathers attached to the sides. From how many points of view can you take a photo from an arrow? GTFO.

    • @skullservant4417
      @skullservant4417 3 роки тому +2

      @@HeroLanding found the arcfall fan

    • @RaphielShiraha64
      @RaphielShiraha64 2 роки тому +1

      @@HeroLanding ok fanboy

    • @HeroLanding
      @HeroLanding 2 роки тому

      @@RaphielShiraha64 I've never played that game, I don't even know how it look like 😆

  • @KokoMakesThings
    @KokoMakesThings 3 роки тому

    23:20 The sound of that skelton dieing is the sound of the zombie from Terraria!

  • @Robonator14
    @Robonator14 Рік тому +2

    Almost 2 years later, based on the developers comment, i tried to look it up again and turns out they delisted it and nothing every happened about their plans to re-release it on the unreal engine in 2022. Oh well.

    • @fonesrphunny7242
      @fonesrphunny7242 8 місяців тому

      Took them longer to port to Unreal as expected, because these guys are amateurs.
      They are also switching to an action based combat system, so I'm looking forward to unpolished janky animations and hit detection problems. I highly doubt they can polish or optimize anything.

  • @flamefierce998
    @flamefierce998 3 роки тому +5

    Josh: Hello ladies and gentlemen and today we're checking out Arcfall, an MMORPG in early access for nearly 4 years with an expensive in game shop. You might be asking Josh why are we playing this game? Well ladies and gentlemen this game is filled with bugs and exploits and today we're becoming a god by training archery to the max.

  • @aundrewolf
    @aundrewolf 3 роки тому +3

    “Arcfall is a total balance game with no exploits” if fun when 1 of your favorite content creator shouts out another 1 of your favorite content creators 💯

  • @raylathebrave
    @raylathebrave 2 роки тому

    it's death sound of the skeleton at 23:21 from the death sound of zombies from Terraria? It sounds like it! And I already saw the icons for the skills, Foundry VTT with the d&d 5e system use the same icons, maybe it's a royal-free pack or something?

  • @johnkarakash
    @johnkarakash Рік тому +1

    The ArcFall logo reminds me of schoolbook doodles.

  • @serpentinious7745
    @serpentinious7745 3 роки тому +28

    I'd love to see this guy review Minecraft as if it was an MMO for April Fools

    • @alyssavanderklift9296
      @alyssavanderklift9296 3 роки тому +11

      won't surprise me, he's done the same for tinder... a truly horrible mmo, who thought a dating sim mmo mixed with pokemon go was a good idea.... ;)

  • @motobear9322
    @motobear9322 3 роки тому +3

    I remember trying this out when it released onto steam. I lasted 10 minutes

  • @cardplayer2124
    @cardplayer2124 2 роки тому

    I caught that smithing Britt line you threw in 😂

  • @malbogia8003
    @malbogia8003 Рік тому +1

    Ah yes. The one ambient sound i forgot when I moved to the "city": the "welcome" woodsman camped outside my window

  • @bleukreuz
    @bleukreuz 3 роки тому +4

    How does that one reviewer managed to play this early access game for 1500+ hours!?

  • @tomd1209
    @tomd1209 3 роки тому +12

    A hallmark of bad MMOs--particularly ones that look and play like demos for purchasable assets--is the inclusion of mechanics that only serve to add your list of tedious tasks, like hunger and over encumbrance. Note to developers: not only are these survival mechanics not original, they're generally not fun. Think of a better hook before you start development.

  • @WebPoweredLab
    @WebPoweredLab Рік тому +2

    Game studio owner here; I use these for reference lol. Bad design is not implemented ever if I can help it.

    • @WebPoweredLab
      @WebPoweredLab Рік тому +2

      I just own a studio that develops and publishes indie games.

  • @afterSt0rm
    @afterSt0rm 3 роки тому +3

    The RuneScape influence is strong on this on...