I recognize the mountains, Timp and SP, I grew up looking at those two mtns. Didn’t appreciate their beauty until I moved away for work and school to finish.
Just got my SunJoe Dethatcher today and boy does it work great! Your videos helped make my decision to buy it. Looking forward to what it can do for my lawn.
From Indiana new to caring for my yard uou are easy to follow, intelligent, and pleasing to the eye will follow your info and see what I end up with this year.... wish me luck
Really enjoy your videos, your a natural, learning alot, im a Professional handi man, know carpentry, plumbing, remodeling very well, but 45 years homeowner , same lawn, all crab grass and weeds by august.
Sorry you had to do things the hard way but I appreciate this video. I don't have the tools yet so I have to do it the hard way. Now I see someone do it my way. Very helpful. Thank you
Everybody hates that bag but I actually like it, the section of my yard that I bought it for, I call the way back is actually surrounded on three sides by woods and that’s where my mulch pile is so it’s no problem to empty it on each pass yes it takes time but not all that much, love your vids bro
I have a Sun Joe Scarifier now for 3 years and paid only 98 dollars for a new one on ebay and love it. My yard is small so it works great for me. You just want to make sure you have the right cord I think mine is 12 ga.Great video.
I just bought and used a SunJoe on my lawn. It has a mix of zoysia and other grasses. That little machine didi an amazing job. I just dropped 25 pounds of new seed in my front yard and I am anxious to ssee what this will look like in coming months. Thanks for a great video!
Hey man, thank you for sharing your knowledge through these videos. My SunJoe arrived from Amazon today so once the rain moves out (Seattle area) gonna give it a go even though I'm about a month behind. Glad it performed well for you in this test. I figure if I can get two seasons out of the SunJoe it'll pay for itself instead or renting a heavy power rake. Dug the saw action too, way to be resourceful!
I just got my Sunjoe Scarifier today so I immediately called off work so I could put it together and do my front and back yard both ways lolol It took me 4 hours but I kind of think I can use this for now on, instead of Aerating. It took up alot of thatch just like my old sunjoe dethatcher but this scarifier works great. I probably could of not bought a new one and just bought a scarifier blade off amazon but I was not sure if the new model scarifier blade would fit on the old model. Now I have two sun joe machines and I am completely satisfied. I fertilized afterwards with some Scotts Triple Action. My grass was already fabulous in the front yard, now thanks to this Sunjoe Scarifier It should be perfect. Thanks again.
Hello, I have a question. Is it possible to burn your grass with Scott's Triple Action. I have Kentucky Bluegrass and I scarified my grass to get out thatch then I cut it very low. It currently is not burnt, however it looks a lot less green and I cannot determine if it is from fertilizer or grass being cut so low or the reason snow Cleveland just got ? Also if it’s burnt but not dead what can I do to get Kentucky bluegrass back the way it was.
there is always a chance for fertilizer or weed killer burn. I find if you use more than 1.25lbs of N per 1000 sq ft it leave s you susceptible for a burning
Pest and Lawn Ginja thanks, some days went by since I sent you that question, the grass just looked real bad from the beating it took when scarified my lawn, looks like it’s own the come back now 😂😂
when manually thatch raking, I sometimes wet the lawn briefly to make the thatch sticky. it causes the smaller, looser pieces of dead grass to clump with the other thatch better and I get more up per pass.
@@pestandlawnginja The SunJoe works very good was able to dethatch almost a 1/2 acre in 4 hours . Now all that needs done is to scarify the lawn then overseed . I like that the SunJoe is a 2 in 1 tool thanks for sharing your videos - we will definitely keep watching!
You don’t need to worry about surfactant when using Tenacity as a pre emergent. Love these videos, enjoy seeing how people in other areas manage their lawns.
Ginja, I found a use for the Sunjoe clippings bag, well actually just the frame. Without the clippings bag, the clippings seem to bunch up inside the Sunjoe until there is enough to overcome the flap spring, then it pushes out a pile, closes and starts accumulating again. This causes uneven contact with the lawn. I took the clippings bag off the frame, put the frame on the Sunjoe and bent it down close to the ground. Now the clipping door stays open enough to allow the clippings to come out evenly and the blades maintain better contact with the lawn.
So.. the single line stich is the front of the bag. loop stiching is the back. Face the front to you pick off any small string debris from the right side. Then pull the end of the string on the right hand side. If it looks like you're undoing a slip knot then you're doing it right my friend 😂. Learned that back in highschool when I inhaled more grass then I cut if you know what I mean 😉. One of those why do feet stink and noses run conversations.
I purchased the Sunjoe a couple months ago & when I scarified my front lawn (~2000 sq') I filled two 85 gallon yard waste dumpsters packed full of thatch; I had it set at (0) & I need to go over the lawn again deeper & overseed as you did! I will probably use compost from the local recycling garden center because it's ~$40.00 a cubic yard. On a side note, I live in a transition zone "Kansas" & have cool & warm season grasses in the lawn, the Bermuda runners gave me a hard time in that they would wrap around the scarifier shaft. Thanks for the vid!!
Purchased the Sun Joe through your Amazon affiliate link. Thanks for your mini-review - it convinced me to get one. Greenworks dethatcher won't be available until late August of this year according to the manufacturer, so went with the Sun Joe instead. Looking forward to your full review. Thanks!
I was very skeptical of the Sun joe scarifier/dethatcher when I purchased it but I couldn't believe the results, mowed it low, ran the scarifier, raked, overseeded and put some peat moss down with my Landzie peat moss spreader, Scotts starter fertilizer, watered everyday, twice a day and ten days later, beautiful full lawn!!
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
Just bought one of these bad boys thanks to you. I have an acre but will just take my time and do sections while I attack my grubs with some nematodes.
Picked up the SunJoe and oh man... it revealed how bad the lawn is at my new house. If you are ever in the Denver area and you want an even bigger challenge, I have a 60 year old white dog turd. I'm trying to be patient, taking all your advice. Love the channel.
Haha I was literally commenting the exact same thing thinking is that even real then your comment was in the background lol would say saved me a job but I’ve wrote a lot more now...
Great channel! Something I find that works to get seed down to soil when overseeding.. Provided the lawn is bone dry, get a super long garden hose, install a nozzle of some kind and turn on the water to fill (and weight) the hose. Take the entire length of the filled (heavy) hose, and drag it over the lawn after you have spread the seed. It will act like a giant comb, and help the seed fall from the blades down into soil. Definitely works for seed, not sure about the peat moss (which I have also done by hand, that's a job!). Also, I have the Sunjoe, still works well on year 2. The scarifier is where it's at, mine has a power rake/tine attachment, but it's too gentle. I go 5 mins at a time, small breaks in between, never overheated for me. Cheers from Canada
I see what you're saying about the hose. sounds like that would do the trick. the tine dethatcher IMO is not a dethatcher but more of a debris comber. That's why I like it.
Yes, it’s important to always use the right tool for the job. When you cut along the seam of a bag, you need a rip saw. When cutting through the seam, use a crosscut saw. You’re welcome. Screwdrivers will also work, but saws are best.
Dude I thought everyone was bsing about the bag filling up so fast.. it's crazy how much thatch this machine gets up! Beyond pleased with this purchase.. it was my first time scarifying :)
@@pestandlawnginja Yes it is lol! I had huge clumps all over my lawn.. I can tell it has not been done since the lawn was established. I'm hoping one pass is enough (i know 2-3 is more ideal) because it is hard work and I need to overseed while it's still cool.
The last tiller I used was gas powered and many years ago↝↝>share4.photo/eCultivator?ㅊ10 I got the SMALL one (11 inch) and it is VERY powerful. It takes all my strength to keep it "on track" but I mean this in a good way. I am very pleased with how powerful it is. I am only using it to resurface my lawn and to put in a garden in the backyard. Assembly instructions were a little bit confusing, but not impossible to figure out. My main complaints are minor. I think the "power connector" is a bit loose, but I imagine this is a safety feature. The tiller "kicks" a lot, so it has the potential to "fly away" and a lose connector might aid in preventing problems. Second quibble is the "connectors" for the wheels. They are just screws, so they tend to "unscrew" after even a little bit of use and the wheels fall off. Perhaps another type of connector would be better...? Other than that, excellent quality for the price. Saved me hours of work. Thank you!
Love your channel! And I'm glad someone's doing a review of these suspiciously lightweight and inexpensive tools. One quibble: based on the label for Tenacity, you should not be adding a surfactant to the tank when you intend to use it as a pre-emergent. It's supposed to go into the soil rather than sticking to the grass blades.
I was just about to post this. When you use tenacity as a pre-emergent you do not want to use a surfactant. Pre-emergent is a soil based application and post emergent is a foliar application.
Before using the dethatcher/scarifier machine, try spraying the underside with a Silicone spray. Thus will prevent soil and cuttings build up, making cleanup easier.
My thoughts on your seed bag... 😯 I mean, how to open your bag. I deal with bags like this all the time. 1. Ignore the long, left piece you were tugging on. You'll fight with that for hours. 2. Cut the short end of string. The one on the right side with the label facing you. 3. Find the single thread and pull it. Hope this helps someone. Thanks for your videos! You really make it simple for a beginner like me.
:) Ok, I pretty much lost it at 3:18 of this vid.....It was the Mountain Background!!!! Wow, it's amazing to consider that a neighborhood exists with such a beautiful view. Now (back to the Pest and Lawn Care info :). Thanks so much for this, very clear, concise and informative. Subscribed, and not just because of the lovely Mountain View :)
I have the greenworks, edition. Yes it is! If it had a battery, I would have torn all my grass out, and pissed the wife off, but the cord takes some of the fun out of it.
come on now ...#1 mow the grass short #2 start near the house and work away from it so the extension cord stays behind you #3 use your lawn mower to pick up everything you dug out of the lawn ! the scarifier also works great to loose up you vegetable gardens soil before you plant seeds ... its one sweet machine - no need for gas or tune ups and it quickly pays for it self instead of renting one
This was a very rewarding video. I thank you for your wisdom. As lawn freak myself I was having this problem and I didnt have a clue how to fix it. I neeeeed these tools.
@@pestandlawnginja done and done. I hope my lawn will bounce back. I recruited my friend to help me to rake. The leaf blower!!? what and amazing idea, made the clean up that much quicker.
I'm torn. I think overall yes because you get the scarifier. This might sound dumb but I liked the upper handle better on the green works. I'll do an official review once I get a chance to use the dethatcher on the sun Joe.
I've had the sunjoe for about 4 years. Works really well. I think the control lever in the video was not installed right because mine is not floppy like that. I agree, the small bag is dumb and have thought about trying to make a bigger one. I drilled a hole in the flap and tied some cord to the handle bar to keep it open so the clumps of debris could come out freely. When the door is down the debris tends to stay in there and build up. Mark your sprinkler heads because it will chew them up and bust the tops. After a few times using mine, I sharpened the scarifier blades with a grinder so that it could truly cut down into the ground. It will pull up so much crap, so be prepared for a lot of taking and bagging. Also live in Utah.
I recently stumbled across your channel and enjoy watching and trying to learn something. Watching this video i noticed my favorite mountain in the background. Love mount timp. I hope i learn enough to do a better job with my lawn
When putting down either peat moss or Miracle grow with my hand I use the back of a metal rake to smooth and even out those products on the lawn when using that method you can get rid of the clumps too without having to go back over the lawn saving time in the process
I really like your channel, great job on the lawn. Tip "work away from the power source when using corded tools". Much less fiddling with the power cord.
@@pestandlawnginja one more thing buddy, I make it a habit whenever I dethatch a lawn I ALWAYS run the mower over the lawn to pick up more thatch, that may have been left behind.
Love your videos. Learning a ton. Question....do you need to dethatch first before scarifying? Or can I go straight to the scarifier? In other words, which attachment would I use first?
Thanks for this video. After watching a few of your videos I've realized that my simple approach to caring for my lawn is the reason it looks like shit every year! I need to level my lumpy lawn because my kids trip all the time, but I also need to seed, dethatch, and fertilize. In terms of sequence do you recommend mowing, then dethatch / scarify, fertilize, seed, then top dress / level? Thanks for the videos! Keep up the good work!
Look at him, standing there all handsome with a whole Bob Ross painting in the background. Stunning! Anyway, I'd be all for the SunJoe if it were cordless. Love from Detroit.
Oh my goodness, 7:40 that backdrop! Incredible. So I’m going to be overseeding with a mix of creeping red fescue, perennial rye and kbg up here in Ontario. What setting do you suggest the scarifier be at for that mix?
They do! Not these brands, but I know Allett Mowers has a cartridge based system with all sorts of functions. They are based in the UK. Not sure who the competing US based company would be. Definitely some more $$$ though.
Just bought and used the Sun joe dethatcher and scarfier. It worked great the only issue I have is it spreads crab grass seeds. You might want to put down a pre-emergent prior to using it.
Loving your videos. My lawns (in UK England) need some TLC and I'm buying a Raker/Scarifier tomorrow. We've had a few hot weeks without rain but we've got rain coming tomorrow night and then sunshine and showers for a couple of weeks so now seems like the right time. Tip: Use sun-block on your neck. Thanks me when you're older 😉
I have a video on the green works. the biggest difference is the sun joe sits lower and has the scarifier. I personally would wait for the sun joe to come back in stock and prices will be lower. The covid issue has caused the demand issue with 3rd party vendors.
Geez, I feel like when I got the GW dethatcher for around $80 in 2018 was a major bargain now. Wish I had the scarifier like the SJ, but not at that price!
@@pestandlawnginja i just ordered one on Amazon...129.00 or less.. is that the same model or did I get A). Wrong model. B.) A very good deal with Free shipping
Wow, it is great learning point to me . I am going to buy sun joe and I will do lawn care by myself from this year. Thanks a lot for this education....
I laughed this entire video. This project is probably the average homeowner’s experience that doesn’t have the right materials. Nonetheless, we just keep improvising. 😂
Just found this guy. Altra shoes and the Wasatch front in the background gave away the he is from Utah. Love the video. Trying to decide if i should buy a scarifier.
Exactly what I wanted to know but was afraid to ask. I thought you might say only posers and dilettantes use lawn sweepers! I have a DR pull behind (not a power one; I think it's made by Agri-Fab) lawn sweeper and I love it. I used my brand new Greenworks dethatcher (which is really a low power rake?) this afternoon and used a blower to move the dead grass. I almost abandoned the project. I did a second section this evening and used the lawn sweeper. No comparison. It's not perfect, but it gets the job done. There is no way I am blowing or hand raking the 27K square feet I'm trying to renovate on my own!
@@FrenchieFrench1555 just like the pull along dethatchers have to put weight over the wheels , and most people set them up with the bin dragging it has to be up in the air for leverage against the wheel
Great video as always. I have the Greenworks and use it for overseeding pretty much exactly as you did. I bought one of those steel mesh rollers to put the peat moss down. Does a great job and saves some peat moss. Do you think the greenworks will be O K for overseeding since it doesn't cut the soil as deeply as the scarifier?
Bro. I even let my father in law use the SUNJOE. And he’s been greens maintenance on a prestigious local golf course for years but it seems like he’s just uninformed for basics. Thing is a beast and definitely works wonders. It’s going on 15 days, waiting to see sprouts from overseeding aerating and PGF Complete. 🤞🏼
Thanks to you and some of the other SunJoe experts, I returned a tiller bought by mistake on Amazon and exchanged it for the exact model used here.. I've yet to see any videos using this in Florida or on warm grasses. Thanks so much for your explain-as- you-go techniques for beginners and you kept the kookiness at a minimum....🤪 but the mountain backdrop made up for it !🏞️
views for days Glen! Thanks for watching and commenting. the sun joe works great on warm season you just have to be sure to make the appropraite height adjustments so the machine doesn't pick up the stolons.
I have a Zoysia lawn, and the only thing I would say is cut your grass as short as you can before scarifying. You will get much better results. I also have a reel mower, so I can cut my grass down to about 1/4 inch, and I got fantastic results, and I was able to get my soil amendments and fertilizer into soil contact instead of it sitting on the thatch layer because I cut short then scarified.
How tall do you let the existing grass grow before mowing? What height do you maintain? Do you recommend frequent mowing to prevent long grass clippings? If I remember right Bluegrass has at least a 6 week germination period. Thanks Ginja!
Depends on you really. Bluegrass Acela goes between .75” and 4”. The difference lies between how many mows you can do during the week. 5 mows per week .75” . 2 mows per week 2” . 1 mow per week 3-4”
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I was looking for the lawn sprinklers that made it rain, I liked those
@@tonygiannetto8490 you'll have to be more specific on what you mean. I use slow flow hunter mp rotators
@@pestandlawnginja those sprinklers you had set in the corners of your yard, that adjusted to hit just the grass. those were sweet
Have you heard why the sun joe battery dethatcher is on back order?
That mountain backdrop though! As someone in the midwest we don't get that kind of amazing view.
I was going to comment on those mountains... what a beautiful neighborhood 😍
we are spoiled!
@@pestandlawnginja I'm sure you've said but what state? Also a Midwesterner though I live near the Ozarks. They are beautiful but nothing like that.
I was just looking at that
it looks unreal
I recognize the mountains, Timp and SP, I grew up looking at those two mtns. Didn’t appreciate their beauty until I moved away for work and school to finish.
I hear that!
I'm from NC, but travel to SLC area very frequently.
I knew those Mtns as soon as I saw them in the background.
Absolutely breathtakingly beautiful.
Just got my SunJoe Dethatcher today and boy does it work great! Your videos helped make my decision to buy it. Looking forward to what it can do for my lawn.
Awesome! You'll love it
From Indiana new to caring for my yard uou are easy to follow, intelligent, and pleasing to the eye will follow your info and see what I end up with this year.... wish me luck
👊😍 super kind Marti! Hope you slayed that lawn!
Can't wait to see the updates. This series has me fascinated!
Me too!
I bought a sun joe because of this video and I’m amazed by how well it works.
That's awesome Jason!
The mountains in the background... damn! What a view!
Yes!
What neighborhood is that? It looks so much like where I grew up
@@rbwbehrmann it looks like the west side of Orem to me?
Really enjoy your videos, your a natural, learning alot, im a Professional handi man, know carpentry, plumbing, remodeling very well, but 45 years homeowner , same lawn, all crab grass and weeds by august.
Thanks for the feedback Robert! Glad you're finding value!
I love the snow capped mountains! I have lived in Vernal,UT and in Oregon, I miss the mountains.
I bet you miss it like crazy. I'm always amazed when I go out of state and come back at how incredible the scenery is.
Same, lived in Ogden area, in the AZ desert now, I definitely miss the Rockies!
Sorry you had to do things the hard way but I appreciate this video. I don't have the tools yet so I have to do it the hard way. Now I see someone do it my way. Very helpful. Thank you
Glad it helped! I really love the compost spreaders. you can pick them up from a hardware rental place for cheap!
You had me rolling when you broke out the saw to open the bag, classic! Car keys work too in a pinch...
Sometimes you gotta use a saw
Everybody hates that bag but I actually like it, the section of my yard that I bought it for, I call the way back is actually surrounded on three sides by woods and that’s where my mulch pile is so it’s no problem to empty it on each pass yes it takes time but not all that much, love your vids bro
for the life of me i can't figure it out hahaha. people have told me, shown me..... doesn't matter. its broke when I do it.
I have a Sun Joe Scarifier now for 3 years and paid only 98 dollars for a new one on ebay and love it. My yard is small so it works great for me. You just want to make sure you have the right cord I think mine is 12 ga.Great video.
Yes. I've heard the cord really helps maintain
I just bought and used a SunJoe on my lawn. It has a mix of zoysia and other grasses. That little machine didi an amazing job. I just dropped 25 pounds of new seed in my front yard and I am anxious to ssee what this will look like in coming months. Thanks for a great video!
That is awesome! Slay that Lawn Kenny!
Hey man, thank you for sharing your knowledge through these videos. My SunJoe arrived from Amazon today so once the rain moves out (Seattle area) gonna give it a go even though I'm about a month behind. Glad it performed well for you in this test. I figure if I can get two seasons out of the SunJoe it'll pay for itself instead or renting a heavy power rake. Dug the saw action too, way to be resourceful!
For sure! You're welcome. So far so good. I've had it on three lawns and not one broken tine. Still performing.
@@pestandlawnginja Awesome, thanks for the reply!
@@jpatrickgreen anytime bob!
I just got my Sunjoe Scarifier today so I immediately called off work so I could put it together and do my front and back yard both ways lolol It took me 4 hours but I kind of think I can use this for now on, instead of Aerating. It took up alot of thatch just like my old sunjoe dethatcher but this scarifier works great. I probably could of not bought a new one and just bought a scarifier blade off amazon but I was not sure if the new model scarifier blade would fit on the old model. Now I have two sun joe machines and I am completely satisfied. I fertilized afterwards with some Scotts Triple Action. My grass was already fabulous in the front yard, now thanks to this Sunjoe Scarifier It should be perfect. Thanks again.
How often do you overseed ?
You're welcome Lance. glad to hear you're slaying that lawn! I commonly overseed in the fall if I need to
Hello, I have a question. Is it possible to burn your grass with Scott's Triple Action. I have Kentucky Bluegrass and I scarified my grass to get out thatch then I cut it very low. It currently is not burnt, however it looks a lot less green and I cannot determine if it is from fertilizer or grass being cut so low or the reason snow Cleveland just got ? Also if it’s burnt but not dead what can I do to get Kentucky bluegrass back the way it was.
there is always a chance for fertilizer or weed killer burn. I find if you use more than 1.25lbs of N per 1000 sq ft it leave s you susceptible for a burning
Pest and Lawn Ginja thanks, some days went by since I sent you that question, the grass just looked real bad from the beating it took when scarified my lawn, looks like it’s own the come back now 😂😂
Start from the house and work your way away from the house, then you won't mess with running over the cord.
Good call!
Just did my house, too. Solid advice. This is the way.
when manually thatch raking, I sometimes wet the lawn briefly to make the thatch sticky. it causes the smaller, looser pieces of dead grass to clump with the other thatch better and I get more up per pass.
Great feedback and comment
Thank you for the great video. I just ordered the SunJoe from Amazon and can't wait to start repairing lawn.
Lemme know what you think after
@@pestandlawnginja The SunJoe works very good was able to dethatch almost a 1/2 acre in 4 hours . Now all that needs done is to scarify the lawn then overseed . I like that the SunJoe is a 2 in 1 tool thanks for sharing your videos - we will definitely keep watching!
@@dwaynewood1795 super stoked it worked out well for you. 1/2 acre in 4 hours is smokin fast. Well done.
You don’t need to worry about surfactant when using Tenacity as a pre emergent. Love these videos, enjoy seeing how people in other areas manage their lawns.
Very true! Thanks for watching and commenting
Thanks for the great information, gorgeous background , love the mountains. Awesome.
You're welcome P Ney! Have a great night. Thanks for commenting
My neighbor let me borrow his, it’s the same one and that thing works awesome! Killer price too
Couldn't agree more John! It's crazy!
I did this a couple weeks ago. Great tip, mix the tenacity in an empty bottle first, makes mixing much easier!
Thanks man! Have a great day
Ginja, I found a use for the Sunjoe clippings bag, well actually just the frame. Without the clippings bag, the clippings seem to bunch up inside the Sunjoe until there is enough to overcome the flap spring, then it pushes out a pile, closes and starts accumulating again. This causes uneven contact with the lawn. I took the clippings bag off the frame, put the frame on the Sunjoe and bent it down close to the ground. Now the clipping door stays open enough to allow the clippings to come out evenly and the blades maintain better contact with the lawn.
That's great feedback!
Great idea...have one on order... arriving soon...
So.. the single line stich is the front of the bag. loop stiching is the back. Face the front to you pick off any small string debris from the right side. Then pull the end of the string on the right hand side. If it looks like you're undoing a slip knot then you're doing it right my friend 😂. Learned that back in highschool when I inhaled more grass then I cut if you know what I mean 😉. One of those why do feet stink and noses run conversations.
I get lost on the bag 😂. Thanks for the education
@@pestandlawnginja same here. And anytime brother.
@@jameszorb8420 I still failed hahaha. Horrible. Death to the string
I purchased the Sunjoe a couple months ago & when I scarified my front lawn (~2000 sq') I filled two 85 gallon yard waste dumpsters packed full of thatch; I had it set at (0) & I need to go over the lawn again deeper & overseed as you did! I will probably use compost from the local recycling garden center because it's ~$40.00 a cubic yard. On a side note, I live in a transition zone "Kansas" & have cool & warm season grasses in the lawn, the Bermuda runners gave me a hard time in that they would wrap around the scarifier shaft. Thanks for the vid!!
I feel that compost is overall a better choice over the peat moss. Well done. That's a lot of thatch
Purchased the Sun Joe through your Amazon affiliate link. Thanks for your mini-review - it convinced me to get one. Greenworks dethatcher won't be available until late August of this year according to the manufacturer, so went with the Sun Joe instead. Looking forward to your full review. Thanks!
Thanks Diego. Been abusing the machine as much as possible to make sure I give it a proper review
I was very skeptical of the Sun joe scarifier/dethatcher when I purchased it but I couldn't believe the results, mowed it low, ran the scarifier, raked, overseeded and put some peat moss down with my Landzie peat moss spreader, Scotts starter fertilizer, watered everyday, twice a day and ten days later, beautiful full lawn!!
Its a dark horse for sure!
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
It works so well!
Just bought one of these bad boys thanks to you. I have an acre but will just take my time and do sections while I attack my grubs with some nematodes.
That's great to hear! It's addicting! The color will pop!
From one ginja to another, I can't wait to do this to my lawn. The weeds have overtaken and I have to do something! Thanks for the video.
Love it bro! Slay the day!
Weed killer..my grass is not the best..at all..but it looks nice cause it only has about 5 precent of weeds
@@edubb2491 sweet!
You just dethatched. Why put down peat moss? It is so difficult to wet it out and is anti- microbial.
Picked up the SunJoe and oh man... it revealed how bad the lawn is at my new house. If you are ever in the Denver area and you want an even bigger challenge, I have a 60 year old white dog turd. I'm trying to be patient, taking all your advice. Love the channel.
Hey Joshua! Thanks for the comment. Sounds like a stinky job hahaha.
7:35 Man, what a view 😍
The mountain range is nice too.
🤩🤩🤩😂😂😂 👉👊
Haha I was literally commenting the exact same thing thinking is that even real then your comment was in the background lol would say saved me a job but I’ve wrote a lot more now...
@@charliepeters7122lol, great minds think alike.
Great channel! Something I find that works to get seed down to soil when overseeding.. Provided the lawn is bone dry, get a super long garden hose, install a nozzle of some kind and turn on the water to fill (and weight) the hose. Take the entire length of the filled (heavy) hose, and drag it over the lawn after you have spread the seed. It will act like a giant comb, and help the seed fall from the blades down into soil. Definitely works for seed, not sure about the peat moss (which I have also done by hand, that's a job!). Also, I have the Sunjoe, still works well on year 2. The scarifier is where it's at, mine has a power rake/tine attachment, but it's too gentle. I go 5 mins at a time, small breaks in between, never overheated for me. Cheers from Canada
I see what you're saying about the hose. sounds like that would do the trick.
the tine dethatcher IMO is not a dethatcher but more of a debris comber. That's why I like it.
Yes, it’s important to always use the right tool for the job. When you cut along the seam of a bag, you need a rip saw. When cutting through the seam, use a crosscut saw. You’re welcome. Screwdrivers will also work, but saws are best.
Love me a good saw
Dude I thought everyone was bsing about the bag filling up so fast.. it's crazy how much thatch this machine gets up! Beyond pleased with this purchase.. it was my first time scarifying :)
LOL NOPE!!!! That bag is a joke hahaha
@@pestandlawnginja Yes it is lol! I had huge clumps all over my lawn.. I can tell it has not been done since the lawn was established. I'm hoping one pass is enough (i know 2-3 is more ideal) because it is hard work and I need to overseed while it's still cool.
It is hard work! Just glad we got the sun Joe on our side
Amazing, thanks Ginga, your videos are awesome! Why I'm watching this during work is another question...
👊😂 watch on my friend.... watch on
I grabbed this unit based on your reviews and examples. I'm gonna give it a run this fall and over seed after scarifying. Keep it up!
by far the best tool a home owner can purchase for lawn care.
The last tiller I used was gas powered and many years ago↝↝>share4.photo/eCultivator?ㅊ10 I got the SMALL one (11 inch) and it is VERY powerful. It takes all my strength to keep it "on track" but I mean this in a good way. I am very pleased with how powerful it is. I am only using it to resurface my lawn and to put in a garden in the backyard. Assembly instructions were a little bit confusing, but not impossible to figure out. My main complaints are minor. I think the "power connector" is a bit loose, but I imagine this is a safety feature. The tiller "kicks" a lot, so it has the potential to "fly away" and a lose connector might aid in preventing problems. Second quibble is the "connectors" for the wheels. They are just screws, so they tend to "unscrew" after even a little bit of use and the wheels fall off. Perhaps another type of connector would be better...? Other than that, excellent quality for the price. Saved me hours of work. Thank you!
very cool
Pest and Lawn Ginja were
Daniela Zuc.
I have the same machine. Works great. I pick up the thatch with my bagging mower. It's just like running a vacuum over my lawn.
Anything you can do to make the job easier I'm all for it
Love your channel! And I'm glad someone's doing a review of these suspiciously lightweight and inexpensive tools.
One quibble: based on the label for Tenacity, you should not be adding a surfactant to the tank when you intend to use it as a pre-emergent. It's supposed to go into the soil rather than sticking to the grass blades.
Fair assessment. Really appreciate you watching and commenting.
I was just about to post this. When you use tenacity as a pre-emergent you do not want to use a surfactant. Pre-emergent is a soil based application and post emergent is a foliar application.
I've worked as a landscaper for 5 years and had about 2 bags open correctly! Like the gent below said get a good knife!
Glad im not the only one!
Before using the dethatcher/scarifier machine, try spraying the underside with a Silicone spray. Thus will prevent soil and cuttings build up, making cleanup easier.
Great info . Thank you
have you tried doing that for under mower and get good results?
Yes. But keep reapplying periodically
My thoughts on your seed bag... 😯 I mean, how to open your bag. I deal with bags like this all the time.
1. Ignore the long, left piece you were tugging on. You'll fight with that for hours.
2. Cut the short end of string. The one on the right side with the label facing you.
3. Find the single thread and pull it.
Hope this helps someone.
Thanks for your videos! You really make it simple for a beginner like me.
taking notes! hahaha, I hate those strings!
That green switch lever is not broken mine does the same thing, it feels like it’s gonna break though :)
Feels like garbage hahaha
:) Ok, I pretty much lost it at 3:18 of this vid.....It was the Mountain Background!!!! Wow, it's amazing to consider that a neighborhood exists with such a beautiful view. Now (back to the Pest and Lawn Care info :). Thanks so much for this, very clear, concise and informative. Subscribed, and not just because of the lovely Mountain View :)
Thanks for the comment! It is pretty majestic here for sure. Come visit sometime
Thanks for all the tips on dethatching n overseeding and doing it the way most of us would have to do it🤣 ordering my sunjoe & rake now!!👍
for sure! That's the best way. glad to hear you're out there slaying your lawn pamela
I love the background of your video.. Great view!!!
Glad you like it!
One thing you forgot to mention is how damn addicting it is to use that Sunjoe! JC that thing is fun.
LOL soooo true!!!! It's great. cleans the color right up!
Sun Joe products are rubbish !!
I have the greenworks, edition. Yes it is! If it had a battery, I would have torn all my grass out, and pissed the wife off, but the cord takes some of the fun out of it.
Another good thing about the peat moss on top is that it's sterile and helps prevent damping off.
Good advice!
what is Damping off?
@@acoldguy2381 It is a fungus that kills newly germinated seeds.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing
come on now ...#1 mow the grass short #2 start near the house and work away from it so the extension cord stays behind you #3 use your lawn mower to pick up everything you dug out of the lawn !
the scarifier also works great to loose up you vegetable gardens soil before you plant seeds ...
its one sweet machine - no need for gas or tune ups and it quickly pays for it self instead of renting one
This was a very rewarding video. I thank you for your wisdom. As lawn freak myself I was having this problem and I didnt have a clue how to fix it. I neeeeed these tools.
Love it! You're welcome. Now go get at it already!
@@pestandlawnginja done and done. I hope my lawn will bounce back. I recruited my friend to help me to rake. The leaf blower!!? what and amazing idea, made the clean up that much quicker.
Thank you for doing that review on SunJoe. I think for the money there is better value for Sun Joe over the Greenworks. 👍
I'm torn. I think overall yes because you get the scarifier. This might sound dumb but I liked the upper handle better on the green works. I'll do an official review once I get a chance to use the dethatcher on the sun Joe.
I've had the sunjoe for about 4 years. Works really well. I think the control lever in the video was not installed right because mine is not floppy like that. I agree, the small bag is dumb and have thought about trying to make a bigger one. I drilled a hole in the flap and tied some cord to the handle bar to keep it open so the clumps of debris could come out freely. When the door is down the debris tends to stay in there and build up. Mark your sprinkler heads because it will chew them up and bust the tops. After a few times using mine, I sharpened the scarifier blades with a grinder so that it could truly cut down into the ground. It will pull up so much crap, so be prepared for a lot of taking and bagging. Also live in Utah.
interesting! So far I've not had any issues with sprinkler heads. great feedback!
@@pestandlawnginja Getting ready for that spring thaw Ginja?
Neighbor : “what are you doing?”
Me : “I’m vacuuming my lawn.”
🤣🤣🤣
buying this product 4 years later, I must say they made some good improvements: adjustment knob studier, trigger handle larger and studier.
very true!
I recently stumbled across your channel and enjoy watching and trying to learn something. Watching this video i noticed my favorite mountain in the background. Love mount timp. I hope i learn enough to do a better job with my lawn
Awesome Darren. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
3:23 That view is amazing! I've never been out west :(
we are super spoiled with all the amazing mountains here.
If it's Utah, all I can say is: It's not worth it!!! :)
When putting down either peat moss or Miracle grow with my hand I use the back of a metal rake to smooth and even out those products on the lawn when using that method you can get rid of the clumps too without having to go back over the lawn saving time in the process
Great feedback! Thank you
cant you just use a drop spreader? wont this be much easier and effective
Never knew there was so much science to lawns!!😂
Like an onion. so many layers
Those mountains in the back drop are beautiful
Yes they are!
Dude where is that at? Those mountains in the background look amazing.
Utah!
I was going to ask the same. Looks similar to my mountains here in Nevada. Awesome view!
Orem? Over by 1600 n somewhere maybe??
I really like your channel, great job on the lawn. Tip "work away from the power source when using corded tools". Much less fiddling with the power cord.
Yah. About that.... 😂😂😂
@@pestandlawnginja one more thing buddy, I make it a habit whenever I dethatch a lawn I ALWAYS run the mower over the lawn to pick up more thatch, that may have been left behind.
@@sebastian56309 I have to admit my blower does a much better job. Its cfm's are through the roof
@@pestandlawnginja no, you misunderstood me, after you blow the lawn, mow it again and bag the debris and see for yourself .
Love your videos. Learning a ton. Question....do you need to dethatch first before scarifying? Or can I go straight to the scarifier? In other words, which attachment would I use first?
I prefer to use the dethatcher first. Gets rid of the fluffy debris. The thatch is dense and heavier.
Love the super hover sound. I really love mine…
Thanks for this video. After watching a few of your videos I've realized that my simple approach to caring for my lawn is the reason it looks like shit every year! I need to level my lumpy lawn because my kids trip all the time, but I also need to seed, dethatch, and fertilize. In terms of sequence do you recommend mowing, then dethatch / scarify, fertilize, seed, then top dress / level? Thanks for the videos! Keep up the good work!
Thanks and you're welcome!!! You'll do great. Just focus on one thing at a time.
Great video with good detail. I ordered this product immediately after watching.
Still one of the best yard tools one can own
that's the same way I open my bags too 😁
That's what I'm talking about!
I use an old mower blade to open my bags.
Look at him, standing there all handsome with a whole Bob Ross painting in the background. Stunning! Anyway, I'd be all for the SunJoe if it were cordless. Love from Detroit.
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Oh my goodness, 7:40 that backdrop! Incredible.
So I’m going to be overseeding with a mix of creeping red fescue, perennial rye and kbg up here in Ontario. What setting do you suggest the scarifier be at for that mix?
Do the lowest setting.
Pest and Lawn Ginja Thanks Ginja. Can’t wait to get out there.. few more weeks still for us up near the North Pole haha
Love it
I would pay you to do our lawn here in north georgia. But I would have to be there to enjoy the moments your having on this one. Its priceless
thanks Andy!
I wish that they’d offer the same machine with a mowing reel.
Good call! That would be cool
They do! Not these brands, but I know Allett Mowers has a cartridge based system with all sorts of functions. They are based in the UK. Not sure who the competing US based company would be. Definitely some more $$$ though.
@@micahg9627 great to know
Just bought and used the Sun joe dethatcher and scarfier. It worked great the only issue I have is it spreads crab grass seeds. You might want to put down a pre-emergent prior to using it.
great feedback. thanks for sharing
Would you recommend the SunJoe or the Greenworks electric de-thatcher?
hands down the sun joe
Both garbage
Loving your videos. My lawns (in UK England) need some TLC and I'm buying a Raker/Scarifier tomorrow. We've had a few hot weeks without rain but we've got rain coming tomorrow night and then sunshine and showers for a couple of weeks so now seems like the right time. Tip: Use sun-block on your neck. Thanks me when you're older 😉
I live one quarter tube of sunblock at a time hahaha. this ginja skin has to have it or i burn to a crisp.
Amazon has gone up on the price to $295.00 - $350.00 plus shipping... Do you still recomend the Sun Joe at the MUCH higher price?
I have a video on the green works. the biggest difference is the sun joe sits lower and has the scarifier. I personally would wait for the sun joe to come back in stock and prices will be lower. The covid issue has caused the demand issue with 3rd party vendors.
Geez, I feel like when I got the GW dethatcher for around $80 in 2018 was a major bargain now. Wish I had the scarifier like the SJ, but not at that price!
@@pestandlawnginja i just ordered one on Amazon...129.00 or less.. is that the same model or did I get A). Wrong model. B.) A very good deal with Free shipping
Wow, it is great learning point to me . I am going to buy sun joe and I will do lawn care by myself from this year. Thanks a lot for this education....
Best of luck!
I laughed this entire video. This project is probably the average homeowner’s experience that doesn’t have the right materials. Nonetheless, we just keep improvising. 😂
So true!
Just found this guy. Altra shoes and the Wasatch front in the background gave away the he is from Utah. Love the video. Trying to decide if i should buy a scarifier.
so true!
That lawn now merits an edger.
Hahaha yes it does
Good to see the sunjoe,I've been eyeballing that over the green works for a while
Its decent for what it is. I just wish the handle was built different. For what it's worth it worked well.
have you ever thought of using a lawn sweeper to collect the grass clippings after dethatching? I'd like to see a review video maybe
Love the idea dustin. I'll save some pennies and try it out
I had a lawn sweeper, it never worked
@@FrenchieFrench1555 yah, i've heard that more than once. seems you have to get the really expensive ones to make a difference
Exactly what I wanted to know but was afraid to ask. I thought you might say only posers and dilettantes use lawn sweepers! I have a DR pull behind (not a power one; I think it's made by Agri-Fab) lawn sweeper and I love it. I used my brand new Greenworks dethatcher (which is really a low power rake?) this afternoon and used a blower to move the dead grass. I almost abandoned the project. I did a second section this evening and used the lawn sweeper. No comparison. It's not perfect, but it gets the job done. There is no way I am blowing or hand raking the 27K square feet I'm trying to renovate on my own!
@@FrenchieFrench1555
just like the pull along dethatchers have to put weight over the wheels , and most people set them up with the bin dragging it has to be up in the air for leverage against the wheel
Just got my SunGinja and about to get busy on the lawn. Love your vids.
rad
First... I was waiting for this video, thanks Ginja
You're welcome Juan!
I have the Sunjoe and my neighbor wants to borrow it now after seeing what it did for my yard. I got it for $99.00 on Amazon 5 years ago.
Tell him to get a refurbished one for $85.
@@thecappy Nah, he's a good guy. I might do it for him when he is gone next week.
Rad! It's my single favorite device for lawn lovers to own.
Great video as always. I have the Greenworks and use it for overseeding pretty much exactly as you did. I bought one of those steel mesh rollers to put the peat moss down. Does a great job and saves some peat moss. Do you think the greenworks will be O K for overseeding since it doesn't cut the soil as deeply as the scarifier?
It is fine assuming you get soil to seed contact and you're top dressing with soil
@@pestandlawnginja Thanks Ginja!
@@rickrogers2649 you're welcome
Dude....love the scenery in the background
Thanks Dennis!
Good movie bro
Thanks!
Awesome video. Really interesting to watch.
Thanks Paul. appreciate you watching and commenting
Instead of using your hands, use a leaf rake upside down and "sweep" it back and forth.
Wish you were around. we didn't have one
Man you have in amazing view of the mountains 4:54 love the back ground
Thank you!
Well.. won't be doing that with my 2 Acres. Lol
😂😂😂
Bro. I even let my father in law use the SUNJOE. And he’s been greens maintenance on a prestigious local golf course for years but it seems like he’s just uninformed for basics. Thing is a beast and definitely works wonders. It’s going on 15 days, waiting to see sprouts from overseeding aerating and PGF Complete. 🤞🏼
💪😂💪 Little guy is a beast hahaha. Sounds like you have an awesome project going on.
Screams like a girl when he finds a dandelion or a nutsedge after doing all this
👊😂
There's a combo unit i been watching videos on. Blower, Vacuum & muncher. Sounds great for your use.
Indeed
I thought everyone knew the trick for opening those sewn-shut bags, so I made a video on it: ua-cam.com/video/iQ6GGqSh3OI/v-deo.html
Love it! Thank you
Waste of time
Thanks to you and some of the other SunJoe experts, I returned a tiller bought by mistake on Amazon and exchanged it for the exact model used here.. I've yet to see any videos using this in Florida or on warm grasses. Thanks so much for your explain-as- you-go techniques for beginners and you kept the kookiness at a minimum....🤪 but the mountain backdrop made up for it !🏞️
views for days Glen! Thanks for watching and commenting. the sun joe works great on warm season you just have to be sure to make the appropraite height adjustments so the machine doesn't pick up the stolons.
I have a Zoysia lawn, and the only thing I would say is cut your grass as short as you can before scarifying. You will get much better results. I also have a reel mower, so I can cut my grass down to about 1/4 inch, and I got fantastic results, and I was able to get my soil amendments and fertilizer into soil contact instead of it sitting on the thatch layer because I cut short then scarified.
How tall do you let the existing grass grow before mowing? What height do you maintain? Do you recommend frequent mowing to prevent long grass clippings? If I remember right Bluegrass has at least a 6 week germination period. Thanks Ginja!
Depends on you really. Bluegrass Acela goes between .75” and 4”. The difference lies between how many mows you can do during the week. 5 mows per week .75” . 2 mows per week 2” . 1 mow per week 3-4”
I’m watching lawn videos in the middle of the night....time to do some soul searching
LOL I hear you.