It's only an extreme for you. Painter has been quoted many times that he wants players to be paid, but also feels they should earn what they're being paid. He's never going to guarantee a thing, just lay out a framework that can get them to that point (either $, playing time, or likely both). If you demand $ or playing time, it's likely a hard pass. If you're good with the plan he presents, then by all means he wants to you earn millions (if you can), while being a contributing member of his program.
I agree with that statement wholeheardly about him saying many times over that players should be paid but, not at these absorbent amount of money over the long haul. When the money comes down to a more reasonable amount that will balance out to include " The experience, getting a diploma, and for the love of playing with ur teamates" which balances out to the total experience and not just for the love of money only..
I think what he is saying is that if that is a top priority, your probably not a guy that is his type of player, it’s ok to want NIL money, just not that is your top item.
New guy who seems to be anti-Purdue at every turn purposefully misunderstanding what Paint said Like come on dude - we don’t want players ALL ABOUT the money. Bc they don’t work hard, they aren’t team players, they don’t develop well and they become a problem down the road. He knows damn well Purdue pays its players and especially if they do well. Completely disingenuous to suggest we only want players who don’t care about money at all.
Big difference Between buying & paying Get good players? Learn to evaluate & develop players? Purdue players get paid They just don’t get paid to show up
You guys should listen to the full interview instead of commenting on the headline. He says in this interview his guys are making money, Edey made more than he would have in the NBA last year. It’s not one or the other, you are just extrapolating that out of the headline. I do think Painter is designing his program around what he thinks NIL will ultimately become rather than just what it is today. It won’t be Wild West like this forever.
Bold move by Greg to bring on a temp that obviously dislikes Purdue when Purdue is one of the two largest fanbases for the purposes of your audience. It’s fine, but I immediately knew it would be bashing from both sides. Carter actually knows how to push back a little bit.
Who is this I.U. Homer? By the way...purdue players have led sales in the NIL store. I think he is brining the players that Wan to work, and making the money
Dont need to buy players if your recruiting well...Painter will get a portal player if he needs to plug in a position of need. He doesnt want the kid who's first question is how much am i gonna make. He doesnt want those kids....nor does he want to surround himself or his team around that type of kid.
I think Matt is talking about the overall experience of getting a diploma from Purdue and balancing out the "NIL money with winning and not just "For The Money" only at this time. I will "Trust In Painter" until otherwise I see it differently..
"How can we misinterpret or otherwise create a terrible take on something that is obvious and straightforward?" Let me count the ways. The exact words that Neubert asked and Painter's affirmative answer was 100% clear. If a recruit's first question coming in is, "how much you got?", they aren't going to be Boilermakers. If "word on the street" is that Purdue isn't giving life-changing money to kids who have played 0 minutes of D1 basketball, that's great and that creates a lack of interest in certain kids, perfect. Let that be known. Yep, that's what I call a great front end filter.
i've heard plenty of coaches say something along these lines including dan hurley. i think saying that it's "helped you" is probably an overstatement, but coaches saying they want guys who aren't primarily motivated by money is pretty standard
Greg came in again with a half baked opinion from only listening to half of the interview... Painter also stated how his players are compensated, to include Edey making at least the NBA league minimum last year
I'm not sure why you guys are having such a tough time with this. A lot of your videos lately are complaints about the way Painter does things. Paint is open about the type of players he wants. He's always said that pay should primarily be a reward for good play, not making money the reason that they go to the NBA, instead of an incentive to go to a certain school. He points out many of the parts of NIL he doesn't like, but he's also not straying from his values, especially when it comes to recruiting. Why hate on him for being open about it?
Painter has been wildly successful and just went to the natty with the players he normally gets. I just don't follow how that's supposed to be a bad thing.
Do you watch the whole interview? Painter said Edey was paid more than some NBA. So he is not on the extreme side that he doesn't want to pay NIL, but the intention should be they want to come to Purdue first. Not because I will come to Purdue because they paid me the most.
Newsflash- it doesn’t have to be a tale of two extremes. The only people taking this comment to the extremes is Deon. It’s helped him weed out are the kids asking for bidding wars. That’s it. It’s that simple. He’s been sure to mention that NIL is a part of his recruiting now.
So funny your takes. Purdue should go after better players!! Purdue should bring in hired gun players. Purdue should fight in the NIL off season battles. Well looking at all the ONE teams that did better than Purdue last year, CLEARLY you're right. How about we just agree that different approaches work for different programs, and stop trying to get every team to be Kentucky.
Yeah you’re right Greg, I guess we could spend 15 million on a roster like iu to come in 2nd in the big ten. Oh wait, Woodson hasn’t proved he can escape mediocrity thus far. They’re call the kings of the offseason for a reason though.
This is the first season in a while he hasn’t used the portal lol. Why in the one offseason that he doesn’t do we have to act like he’s against it. No he doesn’t overhaul his roster with portal guys but gets seasoned players that fit. And even in the full interview he spoke highly of NIL and the portal.
Gonzaga offered Smith a good amount of money last offseason and he turned it down. NIL is about to be done anyway because the B1G and SEC are going to start paying players directly
Man this other guy only ever negs Purdue. Painter wants his players to get paid well, he just doesn’t want the type of player to come in for recruiting purposes and expect promises of playing time or hundreds of thousands. If their work ethic and production creates good results of course Paint wants them to get money for it
Sorry... New Dude... There is a Culture at Purdue that is not UK. This is not NBA. They look for team attitude, educational attitude, development attitude, and winning attitude. Purdue players who do well do well in NIL store. They want people to earn it. The 5 star guys seem to want spot, not earned it. He said he didn't want these players he saying money first players don't fit his program.
You are taking it wrong. Painter isn't saying he doesn't want players who want money. But if the player is all about the money, for example, comparing their NIL money to some other rival player, or willing to go anywhere to the highest bidder. Dude keeps shaking his head, but that means you have no clue. Taking money, no sin. Worshipping money? Go to another school. Shake your head all you want, coaches can use their own metric, and your opinion is not really that important. Players are making money at Purdue, Edey made millions. Get your facts straight.
If you listen to the whole interview he wasn’t virtue signaling, that’s just the way these guys are making it sound. He literally said the way other do it is t wrong and they aren’t necessarily the right way, just the way they have chosen to go about it.
@@anthonylennen4067 Exactly. Heck, he even admits that he wants his kids to get paid, because they directly impact his success (and pay) as well. He just doesn't want them getting paid for the wrong reasons. If they have talent and can impact the success of the program, they'll get theirs. Some programs are fine flashing millions at a one-year rentals that may, or may not, pan out. Led IU to an NIT bid last year. Also led some programs to a deep run in the NCAA tourney. No approach is wrong, which Painter also addresses in the interview. He just opts for those that put the priorities that align with Purdue first.
Where is Carter? Want him back
This.
It's only an extreme for you. Painter has been quoted many times that he wants players to be paid, but also feels they should earn what they're being paid. He's never going to guarantee a thing, just lay out a framework that can get them to that point (either $, playing time, or likely both). If you demand $ or playing time, it's likely a hard pass. If you're good with the plan he presents, then by all means he wants to you earn millions (if you can), while being a contributing member of his program.
I agree with that statement wholeheardly about him saying many times over that players should be paid but, not at these absorbent amount
of money over the long haul. When the money comes down to a more reasonable amount that will balance out to include
" The experience, getting a diploma, and for the love
of playing with ur teamates" which balances out to the total experience
and not just for the love of
money only..
I think what he is saying is that if that is a top priority, your probably not a guy that is his type of player, it’s ok to want NIL money, just not that is your top item.
100% correct. Shocking both these guys didnt understand that lol
The coach money was top for him,he makes a lot of money
It's amazing you guys did an entire segment when you both have the reading or listening comprehension of a fucking door knob.
New guy who seems to be anti-Purdue at every turn purposefully misunderstanding what Paint said
Like come on dude - we don’t want players ALL ABOUT the money. Bc they don’t work hard, they aren’t team players, they don’t develop well and they become a problem down the road.
He knows damn well Purdue pays its players and especially if they do well. Completely disingenuous to suggest we only want players who don’t care about money at all.
100%
He's an IU fan. What do you expect?
Agree with the consensus here, ditch the new guy. Bring back Cart!
Big difference Between buying & paying
Get good players?
Learn to evaluate & develop players?
Purdue players get paid
They just don’t get paid to show up
Yes. IU and many other teams go out and buys players because otherwise they mostly fail.
You guys should listen to the full interview instead of commenting on the headline.
He says in this interview his guys are making money, Edey made more than he would have in the NBA last year. It’s not one or the other, you are just extrapolating that out of the headline.
I do think Painter is designing his program around what he thinks NIL will ultimately become rather than just what it is today. It won’t be Wild West like this forever.
greg is at it again.
misconstruing the conversation.
Hit that like button!
'Am I taking this quote the wrong way?'
Yes, yes you are. And you know it.
Bold move by Greg to bring on a temp that obviously dislikes Purdue when Purdue is one of the two largest fanbases for the purposes of your audience. It’s fine, but I immediately knew it would be bashing from both sides. Carter actually knows how to push back a little bit.
Who is this I.U. Homer? By the way...purdue players have led sales in the NIL store. I think he is brining the players that Wan to work, and making the money
Dont need to buy players if your recruiting well...Painter will get a portal player if he needs to plug in a position of need. He doesnt want the kid who's first question is how much am i gonna make. He doesnt want those kids....nor does he want to surround himself or his team around that type of kid.
I think Matt is talking about the overall experience of getting a diploma from Purdue and balancing out the "NIL money with winning and not just "For The Money" only at this time. I will "Trust In Painter" until otherwise I see it differently..
I want to hear my coach say, "NIL helps me keep good/great players."
"How can we misinterpret or otherwise create a terrible take on something that is obvious and straightforward?" Let me count the ways. The exact words that Neubert asked and Painter's affirmative answer was 100% clear. If a recruit's first question coming in is, "how much you got?", they aren't going to be Boilermakers. If "word on the street" is that Purdue isn't giving life-changing money to kids who have played 0 minutes of D1 basketball, that's great and that creates a lack of interest in certain kids, perfect. Let that be known. Yep, that's what I call a great front end filter.
Funny. Everyone else likes it for the players they can get. Paint likes it because it of the players it keeps away. He’s one of a kind
i've heard plenty of coaches say something along these lines including dan hurley. i think saying that it's "helped you" is probably an overstatement, but coaches saying they want guys who aren't primarily motivated by money is pretty standard
STFU and BTFU. Another L take related to Purdue basketball. Receipts kept.
Greg came in again with a half baked opinion from only listening to half of the interview...
Painter also stated how his players are compensated, to include Edey making at least the NBA league minimum last year
I'm not sure why you guys are having such a tough time with this. A lot of your videos lately are complaints about the way Painter does things.
Paint is open about the type of players he wants. He's always said that pay should primarily be a reward for good play, not making money the reason that they go to the NBA, instead of an incentive to go to a certain school. He points out many of the parts of NIL he doesn't like, but he's also not straying from his values, especially when it comes to recruiting. Why hate on him for being open about it?
Purdue spends its money keeping the players they have, that’s the difference
Painter has been wildly successful and just went to the natty with the players he normally gets. I just don't follow how that's supposed to be a bad thing.
Do you watch the whole interview? Painter said Edey was paid more than some NBA. So he is not on the extreme side that he doesn't want to pay NIL, but the intention should be they want to come to Purdue first. Not because I will come to Purdue because they paid me the most.
Newsflash- it doesn’t have to be a tale of two extremes. The only people taking this comment to the extremes is Deon. It’s helped him weed out are the kids asking for bidding wars. That’s it. It’s that simple. He’s been sure to mention that NIL is a part of his recruiting now.
What am I watching, the real housewives of college basketball? This might be what finally gets my wife into sports.
So funny your takes. Purdue should go after better players!! Purdue should bring in hired gun players. Purdue should fight in the NIL off season battles. Well looking at all the ONE teams that did better than Purdue last year, CLEARLY you're right. How about we just agree that different approaches work for different programs, and stop trying to get every team to be Kentucky.
We didnt want Catchings
Yeah you’re right Greg, I guess we could spend 15 million on a roster like iu to come in 2nd in the big ten. Oh wait, Woodson hasn’t proved he can escape mediocrity thus far. They’re call the kings of the offseason for a reason though.
This new guy is incompetent. Please get Cart back. The content is suffering and it’s hard to watch.
Cart!!! Bring him back please
4:25 that's not what he says
Okay but like why did Carter get replaced with this dude? What is happening. It’s becoming less interesting.
#Carter
Cart is on paternity leave.
So hopefully not permanent.
This is the first season in a while he hasn’t used the portal lol. Why in the one offseason that he doesn’t do we have to act like he’s against it. No he doesn’t overhaul his roster with portal guys but gets seasoned players that fit. And even in the full interview he spoke highly of NIL and the portal.
Gonzaga offered Smith a good amount of money last offseason and he turned it down. NIL is about to be done anyway because the B1G and SEC are going to start paying players directly
That’s false. The 22% isn’t capped for NIL. Thats for media and athletic development revenue sharing. NIL isn’t going away.
@@thatmechanicguy1993ok
You guys are fools. Eddey was paid and Bradon Smith drives a cyber truck.
Man this other guy only ever negs Purdue. Painter wants his players to get paid well, he just doesn’t want the type of player to come in for recruiting purposes and expect promises of playing time or hundreds of thousands. If their work ethic and production creates good results of course Paint wants them to get money for it
Every Purdue basketball player made 400k last year
Is this substantiated anywhere. I saw the number at 100k last year
I knew when I saw this title that MP would be misconstrued here. lol.
Just like that picked up a 4 star pg
Sorry... New Dude... There is a Culture at Purdue that is not UK. This is not NBA. They look for team attitude, educational attitude, development attitude, and winning attitude. Purdue players who do well do well in NIL store. They want people to earn it. The 5 star guys seem to want spot, not earned it. He said he didn't want these players he saying money first players don't fit his program.
You are taking it wrong. Painter isn't saying he doesn't want players who want money. But if the player is all about the money, for example, comparing their NIL money to some other rival player, or willing to go anywhere to the highest bidder. Dude keeps shaking his head, but that means you have no clue. Taking money, no sin. Worshipping money? Go to another school. Shake your head all you want, coaches can use their own metric, and your opinion is not really that important. Players are making money at Purdue, Edey made millions. Get your facts straight.
Never seen two more clueless “experts”. Experts? lmao
I hope Painter proves me wrong but this is why I think he never wins it all. Play the game and use every lever to get to the next level.
Its not as black/white as y’all are stating. Also can we NOT have an iu guy talk about Purdue? His bias is showing every video 👎🏻
You are commenting on a headline instead of the interview. You did not do your homework. LAZY!
I’m kinda over the painter virtue signaling
If you listen to the whole interview he wasn’t virtue signaling, that’s just the way these guys are making it sound.
He literally said the way other do it is t wrong and they aren’t necessarily the right way, just the way they have chosen to go about it.
@@jdgeary I’ll check it out
Painter should be Underwood's assistant coach. Would be a legendary tandem
Matt painter, a man who has made millions of dollars for years, does not want players, whose priorities include money. What? Hypocrite much😂
Try watching the interview bro.
@@anthonylennen4067 hey man I’m pretty damn sure the Purdue coach is a hell of a guy. I’m just busting balls and having fun be cool bro.
@@anthonylennen4067 Exactly. Heck, he even admits that he wants his kids to get paid, because they directly impact his success (and pay) as well. He just doesn't want them getting paid for the wrong reasons. If they have talent and can impact the success of the program, they'll get theirs.
Some programs are fine flashing millions at a one-year rentals that may, or may not, pan out. Led IU to an NIT bid last year. Also led some programs to a deep run in the NCAA tourney. No approach is wrong, which Painter also addresses in the interview. He just opts for those that put the priorities that align with Purdue first.