Reid, thanks for your comment. I'd just like to clarify that the Catholic Church, when an honest attempt is made to actually listen/read what she actually teaches, which involves pursuing the meaning of the words she is speaking (as opposed to the oft-employed straw man approach), you'll fine that the eons you speak of extend well before the 16th century within the Catholic Church -- none of this is new; it's simply the teaching of the Catholic Church and has always been. Thank you again for your comment -- hope for reuniting is still alive :-).
@Reid Your comment reminds of the story about the young man returning from 4 yrs of college who is amazed at how much his parents have learned in 4 years. If you delve deep enough into the Catholic Faith you will find this happening more often than not.
As a Catholic convert, brought up as a Protestant myself, I was told that Catholics (well, Papists, you know) didn't believe in Jesus' death as the payment and atonement for our sins and so they believed they had to save themselves by doing good works, and many other falsehoods. I just started reading the Church Fathers and discovered that I had been lied to, that the true, simple, glorious gospel was always there and that the fullness of the Truth in the only Church founded by our blessed Lord was amazing.
My imagination says it’s like an infinite black hole that consumes the sin of the world. In which purifies creation. My question is why if Jesus defeated satan are we still here?
Why would you go back to a tomb three days later to anoint a decomposing body with spices?! That's insane, and women wouldn't have prepared a man's corpse for burial.
Reading Atonement, I wonder what is Dr. Brant Pitre view on Dr. William Lane Craig recent work on Atonement published by Cambridge press? Would love to hear his feedback! Thanks for your great work. :)
Eric, not sure. Would be interested to know myself, as this was a significant part of Dr. Pitre's dissertation in the early 2000's. Maybe we can flip it and try to find out what Dr. Craig's assessment of Dr. Pitre's position is ;-). Pax, Brian
Mirth, as Chesterton said (or perhaps it was Lewis), was one of the more underrated personality characteristics of Jesus. We appreciate your kind words, Edward.
From a struggling Evangelical, despairing at limited atonement, this is nectar for the soul
Word.
Beautiful explanation Dr. Pitre. God bless.
It's SO wonderful to hear a Catholic express from his heart what we Evangelical Protestants have preached for eons! WOW, high time! ok?
Reid, thanks for your comment. I'd just like to clarify that the Catholic Church, when an honest attempt is made to actually listen/read what she actually teaches, which involves pursuing the meaning of the words she is speaking (as opposed to the oft-employed straw man approach), you'll fine that the eons you speak of extend well before the 16th century within the Catholic Church -- none of this is new; it's simply the teaching of the Catholic Church and has always been. Thank you again for your comment -- hope for reuniting is still alive :-).
The "eons" you speak of in Protestantism is 500 years. On the other hand, this has been Catholic teaching for 2000 years.
@Reid Your comment reminds of the story about the young man returning from 4 yrs of college who is amazed at how much his parents have learned in 4 years. If you delve deep enough into the Catholic Faith you will find this happening more often than not.
As a Catholic convert, brought up as a Protestant myself, I was told that Catholics (well, Papists, you know) didn't believe in Jesus' death as the payment and atonement for our sins and so they believed they had to save themselves by doing good works, and many other falsehoods. I just started reading the Church Fathers and discovered that I had been lied to, that the true, simple, glorious gospel was always there and that the fullness of the Truth in the only Church founded by our blessed Lord was amazing.
Paul said all, Jesus said many. The way I see it, many can be all minus one. Jesus is the one person that Jesus did not have to die for!
What does it mean to "taking upon himself the sins of the world"?
My imagination says it’s like an infinite black hole that consumes the sin of the world. In which purifies creation.
My question is why if Jesus defeated satan are we still here?
Why would you go back to a tomb three days later to anoint a decomposing body with spices?! That's insane, and women wouldn't have prepared a man's corpse for burial.
Reading Atonement, I wonder what is Dr. Brant Pitre view on Dr. William Lane Craig recent work on Atonement published by Cambridge press? Would love to hear his feedback! Thanks for your great work. :)
Eric, not sure. Would be interested to know myself, as this was a significant part of Dr. Pitre's dissertation in the early 2000's. Maybe we can flip it and try to find out what Dr. Craig's assessment of Dr. Pitre's position is ;-). Pax, Brian
Mirth, as Chesterton said (or perhaps it was Lewis), was one of the more underrated personality characteristics of Jesus. We appreciate your kind words, Edward.