In the post game if you do Arvens missions he starts to open his eyes to the importance of his parent's research and decides he wants to learn more and find himself. It makes me excited that in the future he might become a professor himself
@@jeagle000 oh no you right lol tho honestly a professor that does both would be amazing. They all study different things, one that focuses on the effects foods can have on pokemon would be a cool one
Scarlet and Violet has some of the most brilliant writing in a Pokemon story! From the 3 stories you tackle, Arvens tragic history, and the fact that the main threat was not from an evil team or generic rich tycoon like Rose but from the the deceased professor who's dream and ambition would bring chaos to the world because of their obsession with the paradox pokemon!
This is how i intrepered the death of the professor; they didn't die years ago but rather at the begining of the game when the box art legends (koraidon/miraidon) escape area zero and ended up landing in the beach near poco path, because if i read it correctly the ai said that the accident in research station 4 happened cause of a territorial dispute between the 2 koraidons/ miraidons and that the professor jump in between them to protect them from each other and the professor ended up fatally wounded so as a last resort it told the AI to either continue with the work or they gave the AI permission to stop the time machine but in doing so it triggered 1 of the many security layers which is to lock the AI in the zero lab meanwhile the AI is trying to get in contact with Arven and gives Arven the PokeBall for koraidon/miraidon and the games carry on from there.
Maybe the other parent was sent Thru time in an accident of some sort & the research team was in the crater tryna figure out how to get the other professor back … which is why they were so obsessed with being down there . And while down there were influenced or taken over by the 3rd legendary to bring paradox Mons from the time period instead of saving the other parent like the team was originally trying to do ?
I think his parents are both sada and turo. I think the time machine on it's first try split the two. Creating two timelines, and that the one that was yeeted into a different time was forgotten for the most part because it becoming a timeline split.
My personal theory is that both Sada and Turo had the same obsession, but only one of them were successful. The other parent is responsible for the dubious magazine that we can read about in the Paradox Pokedex entries. Only one of them were getting the funds to research their respective time periods while the other became envious to the point they walked out on their baby. All because they weren't successful in bringing in Paradox Pokemon of their own. Tragic. Probably the reason why Sada/Turo refers to the other parent as "that man/woman" because they lost all respect for their partner for leaving them over something petty. Their absence was so damaging that it led to the AI's creation as well if you read the Research Lab journals. I can't wait for your next video! I'm excited to see what you're gonna talk about!
The missing parent going through the time machine might not be true because Arven was with their remaining parent for a reasonable amount of time and despite that when he finds about about the time machine he says "So the thing my mom/dad spent forever researching down here... She/He actually got it working?!". Considering the missing parent "walked out not long after the boy was born", the "time machine" wasn't a working thing back then because Arven doesn't know about it. Also should keep in mind that Sada/Turo might not have died that long ago. The AI professor mentions our Koraidon/Miradon lost to the other one in a territorial struggle and fled the crater and follows it up with the accident at that research lab when the professor died trying to save our Koraidon/Miraidon. So it's possible that when Koraidon/Miraidon comes out of the crater in the beginning of the game, is right after the accident where the professor died.
Fair point. I'm just pulling from what lore they provided. The time of events are muddy because they don't give a clear cut answer. Gotta work with what we got.
If i remember correctly arven was taking care of miraidon/koraidon for a long time. The professor did not tell him it was from a time machine and thats why he was suprised. So its still possible.
@@destinationtropical2120 Yeah that makes perfect sense actually. Also, if the notes in the research labs are in chronological order, ( the ones in the 1st are the oldest, the ones in the 4th are the most recent etc.) they mention bringing Koraidon/Miraidon from the past/future before they mention the missing parent walking out. According to this, Arven knowing or not knowing about something is irrelevant because he was with Koraidon/Miraidon for a long time and he doesn't even know they came from a time machine.
I like to think the other professor didn't abandon them willingly. Something tells me they're trapped deep in area zero somehow. It would be even more painful if the professors had some sort of argument before it happened, which would lead to one of them dying years later while still thinking their partner abandoned them all those years ago. Idk, I'm a sucker for tragic stories LOL. But I do have a feeling we're going to encounter the absent professor in the DLC.
I figured it was because the research had gotten to an extreme point, that they didn’t feel comfortable contributing to. I concluded this because, iirc, the books imply that the other parent was assisting in research before they walked out. No one abandons a research project with such promise, unless it becomes dangerous or unethical.
Call me crazy, but what if Sada/Turo from their respective worlds met via ultra wormhole and had twin boys. They each took one twin to raise in their own world and both named them Arven. Arven could be a paradox of himself, more or less. Which would explain why he doesn't know his other parent. Just a crazy theory.
I imagine their partners left along with their team because their research and experiments felt like a pipe dream considering Clavell was surprised they were succesful in creating the time machine. It wasn't until creation of the AI using the crystals finally made their dream and further research even possible considering the AI helped the professors create the time machine.
To me the most likely scenario is the missing parent was the first human test trip. We know they know humans can't make a return trip and the missing parent could still be out there somewhere trying to find their way back. There is also the potential that a human trades places with another being when traveling through the machine. What if Arven isn't the birth child of the professors but a potential what if child? In a specific universe yes Arven is the child of both professors but what if he's not supposed to exist in present day paldea and one of his adoptive parents in this world took his place in whatever world he traveled from and can only return if he goes back through the machine?
There was a theory that in the area 4 science hut, that the "skirmish" that took place there was the result of a pokemon raging. And in that rage fataly injured the professor, as hinted by the AI versions. My theory on it is, they lied to protect Arven from the truth, that his parent went on their one way trip with Heath and a few others. So with Sada/scarlet it becomes a paradox because the book had the illustrations and created them in the past, eventually surfacing to the present. Creating that paradox. Turo/violet was the future, seeing what it became here with the Violet illustrations creating the paradox , making that a paradox in itself a self made one. Because our present is the futures past, which in turn just like scarlet would have to have the illustrations survive into the futures(scarlet present/violet future) for the book to confirm the existence of said paradox pokemon. Yeah lol. Because we know
I've been watching and reading almost every single theory out there, which led me to Drogane and his amazing theories, and I think you might be on to something with this.
The thing that I don't get is that in the Scarlet universe, the AI Sada goes back in time but she's an AI. So, shouldn't she eventually turn up in the present? Assuming she wasn't destroyed or destroyed herself.
@@anotherthing well they state Orgnics have a one way trip. Which would imply AI Sada's creation prior to Sadas assumed trip. And If so, Ai Sada was left behind to prevent suspicion of any activity that would probably affect timeliness events. I feel like the actions of things go further depth.
Honestly, surprised they didn't just do the Lusamine angle again. In Sun and Moon, she is so obsessed with "preserving" everything due to an unintentional betrayal by Nebby, accidently sending her husband to the Poke-palago, but assumed to be teleported to Ultra space. That day, she lost her husband because of the people she trusted the most, Lillie, Gladeon and Nebby. So she went crazy, wanting absolute control and perfection as to not lose the people she still had left. Why not make the reason Sada/Toro is so obsessed with their time machine is because their spouse was trapped in time? They want their family reunited so Arven dosen't have to grow up without them? They get so caught up in trying to "do this for Arven" that they forget to actually BE PRESENT for Arven. The way the story is currently written, the professor lost their spouse after their child was born because they were more focused on their research than their family. In response, the professor doubles down and abandons her son for their research which leads to their death. It seems like they got what they wanted, sacrifice everything for science and end up being consumed by it.
So the beast ball reward for pokedex completion is obviously a hint at something. Perhaps in their research in two separate universes, each professor discovered a wormhole which would allow them to perform their own research without the other's interference. The main issues is that each professor grew up reading either the violet or scarlet book, which is what led them to want to discover future/past pokemon. The presence of those pokemon in the books is most likely the result of a pokeball being sent to the time of Heath's exploration by mistake, but that would mean those professor's colleague, if it is the other professor would have never been inspired to do the research into their respective interest (past or future). The fact that Arven looks the same on both versions is pretty good evidence that his parents are both professors, but it could also be game freak not wanting to have two different characters and designs for the character in each game, which is certainly a main reason for his appearance in both games. The wormhole theory could work if the professors we see in each game were left by the counterparts going into their own wormholes, so the turo and sada we see have never met each other, but there was a turo and sada in those universes as well. I really hope that we get dlc expanding on this story because the games are finally getting stories that are more similar to that of the films. This story specifically reminds me of the third movie, not sure why, maybe the serious subject matter? Idk, I feel like im rambling at this point but the beast ball MUST mean something
In an Alternate time line Arven decides to seek vengeance due to not being able to save Mabostiff. He would gather trainers as powerful as the elite 4 and storm area zero. Where he would use the time machine to go into the past or future to slaughter all paradox mons he came across. Until finally meeting his parent that has abandoned him where he would destroy everything they have researched taking everything from them like they had do to him. Through his eyes there is no future or past just the present.
I have been thinking there has to be at least one person on the other side to throw the masterballs at the paradox Pokemon. Which would make sense for it to be the other professor.
They could also have been send through the time machine as an accident and with no intention to leave but because the one way trip they're trap in either past or future.
What if parent Sada/Turo some point in the story decided to make a trip down to Area Zero to convince the professor to come back? Arven wouldn't necessarily know his beloved parent left if lets say the reason they left during this academy year is because they weren't sure if their son would go crazy to cure Mabostiff and by asking the other parent to return, if something happened, it would lessen the pain Arven would go through if Mabostiff died. It could also be because they stopped their research so early on, they weren't fondly remembered. Like, both are regarded as top students at one point and the parent stops researching and starts caretaking, and perhaps the last of mentioning is because when has having a parent been important in the Pokemon world? I think the main reason nobody really mentions the counterpart in each game is because everyone thought the research in Area Zero was pointless or at least dangerous to some degree and the academy itself forbid anyone from going in there, going as far as for the entire Paldea region to be locked off from everyone due to the obsessions in Paldean past and perhaps Clavel and Jacq seeing the potential danger in store if what really happens down there comes to the surface. One thing that bothers me down in Area Zero is the lack of any other humans down there, wouldn't a professor have other researchers at least at some point besides an AI minding the stations at least? Also, I think the AI already broke the barrier that one must hack because did Penny really hack anything? This would also explain the sudden paradox donphan, if lets say it was big enough to escape and the barrier itself keeps paradoxes in too. Plus, I do believe the parent who left the professor did still leave Arven alone most of his life given someone had to pay household bills and since research in Area Zero seemed pointless after a while, perhaps they were shunned from science? Arven knows how to cook and generally take care of himself so it still is tragic in a way but less tragic than if both professors stayed. I also am curious how Mabostiff got that bad off. Like, Mabostiff couldn't be taken to a Pokemon Center like anything else besides Pokerus itself. I don't believe just any normal paradox Pokemon can do that...perhaps Arven last time he went to Area Zero threatened the third legendary somehow and using its psychic powers, sealed or stolen Mabostiff's energy? One herbal mystica makes a titan, but all five to recover anything? It just doesn't add up and in terms of assistants or whatnot, someone had to lock the AI in the bottom.
What would also be possable is an accident with the time machine proto-typ. Simular to Mohn from sun and moon, where the missing parent is somewhere unknown (maybe in our time line, maybe somewhere else with their memory whiped. Or even whiped from the timeline completly resulting in no one remembering them at all, and maybe just concluting that it must have been an assistent. The last bit is quite a strech, I know, but the first part seems plausible, especially considering simularities between travel through time and travel through different dimensions
Good theory. Is it possible that maybe the other professors of each respective games that left after Arven was born are just more tamed with their beliefs and just left, because they were afraid of each game’s original professor going to far? The A.I is programmed like the professor and goes bezerk trying to stop you from shutting the machine down.
I agree with your theory to a fault, but I think alt Sada is a caretaker in the DLC particularly and alt Turo is a coach. Doing selfless actions that vastly contrast with their mainline versions who where very selfish.
@Drogane I feel the caveat to this is that this parent has to work long hours to support Arven's schooling, so a parent who cares, but isn't able to be hands on. Also notably there seems to be mentions of mental health in the game that could actually allude to the fact that alt Turo/Sada is a lifestyle coach/therapist role, but what role is lacking among the staff at the academy? The guidance counselor/therapist.
No one said anything about converting them. They plant Herba Mystica on the surface and pokemon eat them becoming titans. Arven takes the Herba Mystica you find and makes food of it to feed to Mabosstiff to help him get better. It's like you were not even watching the video and the fact you stopped only to make a criticism on a certain word that was used is kind of wild to me in the grand scheme of the content of the video...
That is some rather interesting info that Arven's other parent is just labeled as an unknown assistant. While I'm sure that the other professor is an easy answer as they are the only character to not appear in the opposite version. Concerning the Herba Mystica, the possibility of it granting a long life is very likely, immortality might be a stretch. It's possible if the subject continues to consume the Herba Mystic that their life force will continuously be renewed. Though as observed in the game, once the titan pokemon are defeated they return to normal size. Being defeated and fainting means that the energy from the herbs is depleted and they are returned to a more normal vigor, though with some potential stat boost.
While playing Violet when the AI said Arvens father died during base 4 accident I kinda wondered then who or how do they know organic matter can go through the Time Machine but can’t com back? Did they send sumone through n that’s how they figured it out? Also I think the Prof left at the same time as the pictures from one of the bases was taken. I bet the picture of Arvin n Maschiff was the day he got him as a present from them maybe they gave it to him so he wouldn’t be alone when they went back to work in area zero.
I agree that Arven's other parent has gone through to the past/future but I believe it was a choice they both made as a couple. Unless I have missed something in the story or not understood the way the time machine works... do you put a pokeball in the time machine and it just drops to the floor on the otherside, then stays there till a pardox pokemon touches it and magically comes back through! Surely not right? Someone on the otherside is catching it and sending it back. I'm probably completely wrong lol but loving the chance to theorise about possible outcomes.
It's dimension machine,the third legendary is similar to Scarlet witch in marvel that can create pocket dimension and travel other universes.i think the hexagon patterns are connected to multiverse thing..
I think this pokemon actually splits reality, and each game is one side of the story, and thats where the 'other' parent is. Perhaps to get two different machines built and establish an anchor in both the past an the future via the AI professor. Not sure if it was one of your videos but someone mentioned that for the time machine to actually be a time machine and send a ball out an bring it back with a pokemon, there needed to be another machine on the other side.. but isn't there? In the end of the area zero ark we learn the AI version of the professor is required for the machine to operate *so they leave into the machine* that means now whatever time that machine sent them to *has them there* to potentially be the counterpoint machine.
I think that the "Third legendary" was already introduced in gen 6. It's a Pokémon with hexagonal patterns on its body. I think what's shown in the book is it's egg
Both professor are is parent i think Maybe the reason sada/turo know we cant comback from where we go with the time machine is because the other never came back
If that’s all true, man, sucks to be Arven. One of his parent is a reckless professor who’s already been dead for years and replaced with a AI clone. While the other parent is also reckless, and already left them both. 😓
@@therealdrogane N: I have a terrible childhood. I am raised as no more than Ghetsis’s puppet. What makes it worse is that Ghetsis planned to betray me, and he’s probably pure evil. Arven: Hold my book
Well true be honest i don’t think the Scarlet & Violet expansion pass won’t be worth it because both professor just passed away at the very beginning of the game when our character start our adventure & I believe the dlc is all going to Arven & the new area not his bad parents because they don’t deserve it after they abandoning their son in 2022
I get the feeling that Arven parents are a really bad parents in a Pokémon game & I’m so mad about it even the dlc will worth it just for Arven but not the his bad parents because they abandoning their son & die in the beginning of the game & I have the same guts feeling when I played Story of Seasons Pioneers of Olive Town on Nintendo switch I hate the parents in olive town because they don’t care about their kids at all & I was so mad at Damon parents because they don’t care about their son at all & they ask me to raise their son for them & I’m more like a godfather to their son & I feel so mad & feel bad at the same time
@@therealdrogane yeah & when I watched a child event with Damon & seeing him crying really break my heart immediately & it is my first time seeing a marriage candidates cry in a story of seasons game on Nintendo switch & when I watched people playing Story of Seasons Pioneers of Olive Town on their say so negative energy to Damon & I have to straight up tell them about Damon & what he was going through from entire game from beginning to the post game story in Story of Seasons Pioneers of Olive Town & I’m the only one is married to him & being there for him right by his side & how can everyone hate a bachelor that is very special in his own way & Damon is very special in his own way & he like a brother to me & I’m his sister to him & I’m the same age as him & I drink coffee with him & damon is very happy because I’m there for him in olive town
@@therealdrogane I had my suspicions about Arven but when I saw he was doing it for his dog I cried because I Was raised around them when I saw Turo I wanted to defeat the professor for Arven and when I see Sada in the DLC I will Ironically defeat Her with my Miraidon Arven needs all of the sandwiches and hugs I relate to Him when it comes with terrible parents
? I always thought he was the son of both professors. I mean one is a man the other is a woman... he looks like both of them in a way so it's super clear that Sada and Toro are his parents.
It's because the other professor would not be a professor in their counter part game nor are they shown at all throughout the events of the game either.
Any update for this topic now that we have the Teal Mask and some coverage of the Indigo Disk? Also the professor has a picture of little Arven and Maschiff in their lab, it's a really weird situation
In the post game if you do Arvens missions he starts to open his eyes to the importance of his parent's research and decides he wants to learn more and find himself. It makes me excited that in the future he might become a professor himself
That would be awesome!
He says though by the end that he realises he wants to become a chef - so maybe a professor in food?
@@jeagle000 oh no you right lol tho honestly a professor that does both would be amazing. They all study different things, one that focuses on the effects foods can have on pokemon would be a cool one
@@jeagle000 i can imagine Arven would research the properties of the Herba Mystica since he was relying on Heath's book for that.
There are post-game arven missions?
Avrins doggo is the games 3rd legendary
No 🤣
Scarlet and Violet has some of the most brilliant writing in a Pokemon story! From the 3 stories you tackle, Arvens tragic history, and the fact that the main threat was not from an evil team or generic rich tycoon like Rose but from the the deceased professor who's dream and ambition would bring chaos to the world because of their obsession with the paradox pokemon!
I agree. If the future games can handle their technical issues going forward, Pokemon's future stays bright.
@@therealdrogane love these Theory videos Man keep it up!
This is how i intrepered the death of the professor; they didn't die years ago but rather at the begining of the game when the box art legends (koraidon/miraidon) escape area zero and ended up landing in the beach near poco path, because if i read it correctly the ai said that the accident in research station 4 happened cause of a territorial dispute between the 2 koraidons/ miraidons and that the professor jump in between them to protect them from each other and the professor ended up fatally wounded so as a last resort it told the AI to either continue with the work or they gave the AI permission to stop the time machine but in doing so it triggered 1 of the many security layers which is to lock the AI in the zero lab meanwhile the AI is trying to get in contact with Arven and gives Arven the PokeBall for koraidon/miraidon and the games carry on from there.
Maybe the other parent was sent Thru time in an accident of some sort & the research team was in the crater tryna figure out how to get the other professor back … which is why they were so obsessed with being down there . And while down there were influenced or taken over by the 3rd legendary to bring paradox Mons from the time period instead of saving the other parent like the team was originally trying to do ?
I think his parents are both sada and turo. I think the time machine on it's first try split the two. Creating two timelines, and that the one that was yeeted into a different time was forgotten for the most part because it becoming a timeline split.
That's a really high possibility!
I think this is the most likely scenario
My personal theory is that both Sada and Turo had the same obsession, but only one of them were successful. The other parent is responsible for the dubious magazine that we can read about in the Paradox Pokedex entries. Only one of them were getting the funds to research their respective time periods while the other became envious to the point they walked out on their baby. All because they weren't successful in bringing in Paradox Pokemon of their own. Tragic. Probably the reason why Sada/Turo refers to the other parent as "that man/woman" because they lost all respect for their partner for leaving them over something petty. Their absence was so damaging that it led to the AI's creation as well if you read the Research Lab journals. I can't wait for your next video! I'm excited to see what you're gonna talk about!
Then you arw going to love next week!
The missing parent going through the time machine might not be true because Arven was with their remaining parent for a reasonable amount of time and despite that when he finds about about the time machine he says "So the thing my mom/dad spent forever researching down here... She/He actually got it working?!". Considering the missing parent "walked out not long after the boy was born", the "time machine" wasn't a working thing back then because Arven doesn't know about it. Also should keep in mind that Sada/Turo might not have died that long ago. The AI professor mentions our Koraidon/Miradon lost to the other one in a territorial struggle and fled the crater and follows it up with the accident at that research lab when the professor died trying to save our Koraidon/Miraidon. So it's possible that when Koraidon/Miraidon comes out of the crater in the beginning of the game, is right after the accident where the professor died.
Fair point. I'm just pulling from what lore they provided. The time of events are muddy because they don't give a clear cut answer. Gotta work with what we got.
I guess the only way to truly find out is if the other parent (the other professor) shows up in the dlc.
If i remember correctly arven was taking care of miraidon/koraidon for a long time. The professor did not tell him it was from a time machine and thats why he was suprised. So its still possible.
@@destinationtropical2120 Yeah that makes perfect sense actually. Also, if the notes in the research labs are in chronological order, ( the ones in the 1st are the oldest, the ones in the 4th are the most recent etc.) they mention bringing Koraidon/Miraidon from the past/future before they mention the missing parent walking out. According to this, Arven knowing or not knowing about something is irrelevant because he was with Koraidon/Miraidon for a long time and he doesn't even know they came from a time machine.
I like to think the other professor didn't abandon them willingly. Something tells me they're trapped deep in area zero somehow. It would be even more painful if the professors had some sort of argument before it happened, which would lead to one of them dying years later while still thinking their partner abandoned them all those years ago. Idk, I'm a sucker for tragic stories LOL. But I do have a feeling we're going to encounter the absent professor in the DLC.
Hopefully but based on the "leaks" nothing leads to that so far.
I figured it was because the research had gotten to an extreme point, that they didn’t feel comfortable contributing to.
I concluded this because, iirc, the books imply that the other parent was assisting in research before they walked out. No one abandons a research project with such promise, unless it becomes dangerous or unethical.
Call me crazy, but what if Sada/Turo from their respective worlds met via ultra wormhole and had twin boys. They each took one twin to raise in their own world and both named them Arven. Arven could be a paradox of himself, more or less. Which would explain why he doesn't know his other parent. Just a crazy theory.
"Arven is the most knowledgeable about herba mystica"
All i heard was 'Arven is an executive at Subway and really good at it'
I imagine their partners left along with their team because their research and experiments felt like a pipe dream considering Clavell was surprised they were succesful in creating the time machine.
It wasn't until creation of the AI using the crystals finally made their dream and further research even possible considering the AI helped the professors create the time machine.
Perhaps
To me the most likely scenario is the missing parent was the first human test trip. We know they know humans can't make a return trip and the missing parent could still be out there somewhere trying to find their way back.
There is also the potential that a human trades places with another being when traveling through the machine. What if Arven isn't the birth child of the professors but a potential what if child? In a specific universe yes Arven is the child of both professors but what if he's not supposed to exist in present day paldea and one of his adoptive parents in this world took his place in whatever world he traveled from and can only return if he goes back through the machine?
Interesting theory
There was a theory that in the area 4 science hut, that the "skirmish" that took place there was the result of a pokemon raging.
And in that rage fataly injured the professor, as hinted by the AI versions.
My theory on it is, they lied to protect Arven from the truth, that his parent went on their one way trip with Heath and a few others.
So with Sada/scarlet it becomes a paradox because the book had the illustrations and created them in the past, eventually surfacing to the present. Creating that paradox.
Turo/violet was the future, seeing what it became here with the Violet illustrations creating the paradox , making that a paradox in itself a self made one.
Because our present is the futures past, which in turn just like scarlet would have to have the illustrations survive into the futures(scarlet present/violet future) for the book to confirm the existence of said paradox pokemon.
Yeah lol.
Because we know
That's a fire theory though. Hopefully that's true.
I've been watching and reading almost every single theory out there, which led me to Drogane and his amazing theories, and I think you might be on to something with this.
The thing that I don't get is that in the Scarlet universe, the AI Sada goes back in time but she's an AI. So, shouldn't she eventually turn up in the present? Assuming she wasn't destroyed or destroyed herself.
@@anotherthing well they state Orgnics have a one way trip. Which would imply AI Sada's creation prior to Sadas assumed trip.
And If so, Ai Sada was left behind to prevent suspicion of any activity that would probably affect timeliness events.
I feel like the actions of things go further depth.
Honestly, surprised they didn't just do the Lusamine angle again.
In Sun and Moon, she is so obsessed with "preserving" everything due to an unintentional betrayal by Nebby, accidently sending her husband to the Poke-palago, but assumed to be teleported to Ultra space.
That day, she lost her husband because of the people she trusted the most, Lillie, Gladeon and Nebby.
So she went crazy, wanting absolute control and perfection as to not lose the people she still had left.
Why not make the reason Sada/Toro is so obsessed with their time machine is because their spouse was trapped in time?
They want their family reunited so Arven dosen't have to grow up without them?
They get so caught up in trying to "do this for Arven" that they forget to actually BE PRESENT for Arven.
The way the story is currently written, the professor lost their spouse after their child was born because they were more focused on their research than their family. In response, the professor doubles down and abandons her son for their research which leads to their death.
It seems like they got what they wanted, sacrifice everything for science and end up being consumed by it.
So the beast ball reward for pokedex completion is obviously a hint at something. Perhaps in their research in two separate universes, each professor discovered a wormhole which would allow them to perform their own research without the other's interference. The main issues is that each professor grew up reading either the violet or scarlet book, which is what led them to want to discover future/past pokemon. The presence of those pokemon in the books is most likely the result of a pokeball being sent to the time of Heath's exploration by mistake, but that would mean those professor's colleague, if it is the other professor would have never been inspired to do the research into their respective interest (past or future). The fact that Arven looks the same on both versions is pretty good evidence that his parents are both professors, but it could also be game freak not wanting to have two different characters and designs for the character in each game, which is certainly a main reason for his appearance in both games. The wormhole theory could work if the professors we see in each game were left by the counterparts going into their own wormholes, so the turo and sada we see have never met each other, but there was a turo and sada in those universes as well. I really hope that we get dlc expanding on this story because the games are finally getting stories that are more similar to that of the films. This story specifically reminds me of the third movie, not sure why, maybe the serious subject matter? Idk, I feel like im rambling at this point but the beast ball MUST mean something
Possibly it is or isn't. We just have to wait and see on that one.
In an Alternate time line Arven decides to seek vengeance due to not being able to save Mabostiff. He would gather trainers as powerful as the elite 4 and storm area zero. Where he would use the time machine to go into the past or future to slaughter all paradox mons he came across. Until finally meeting his parent that has abandoned him where he would destroy everything they have researched taking everything from them like they had do to him. Through his eyes there is no future or past just the present.
That's a dark present for Arven.
@@therealdrogane very true
I have been thinking there has to be at least one person on the other side to throw the masterballs at the paradox Pokemon. Which would make sense for it to be the other professor.
Pretty much what I thought as well.
They could also have been send through the time machine as an accident and with no intention to leave but because the one way trip they're trap in either past or future.
That's a good point!
But there's a problem the time machine didn't exist at the time since the AI states that only they and the professor were the ones who constructed it.
@@yassinefarah2423 That's not actually confirmed
Sada is arvens mom and turo is his dad they both got married and had arven
What if parent Sada/Turo some point in the story decided to make a trip down to Area Zero to convince the professor to come back? Arven wouldn't necessarily know his beloved parent left if lets say the reason they left during this academy year is because they weren't sure if their son would go crazy to cure Mabostiff and by asking the other parent to return, if something happened, it would lessen the pain Arven would go through if Mabostiff died. It could also be because they stopped their research so early on, they weren't fondly remembered. Like, both are regarded as top students at one point and the parent stops researching and starts caretaking, and perhaps the last of mentioning is because when has having a parent been important in the Pokemon world? I think the main reason nobody really mentions the counterpart in each game is because everyone thought the research in Area Zero was pointless or at least dangerous to some degree and the academy itself forbid anyone from going in there, going as far as for the entire Paldea region to be locked off from everyone due to the obsessions in Paldean past and perhaps Clavel and Jacq seeing the potential danger in store if what really happens down there comes to the surface.
One thing that bothers me down in Area Zero is the lack of any other humans down there, wouldn't a professor have other researchers at least at some point besides an AI minding the stations at least? Also, I think the AI already broke the barrier that one must hack because did Penny really hack anything? This would also explain the sudden paradox donphan, if lets say it was big enough to escape and the barrier itself keeps paradoxes in too. Plus, I do believe the parent who left the professor did still leave Arven alone most of his life given someone had to pay household bills and since research in Area Zero seemed pointless after a while, perhaps they were shunned from science? Arven knows how to cook and generally take care of himself so it still is tragic in a way but less tragic than if both professors stayed. I also am curious how Mabostiff got that bad off.
Like, Mabostiff couldn't be taken to a Pokemon Center like anything else besides Pokerus itself. I don't believe just any normal paradox Pokemon can do that...perhaps Arven last time he went to Area Zero threatened the third legendary somehow and using its psychic powers, sealed or stolen Mabostiff's energy? One herbal mystica makes a titan, but all five to recover anything? It just doesn't add up and in terms of assistants or whatnot, someone had to lock the AI in the bottom.
What would also be possable is an accident with the time machine proto-typ. Simular to Mohn from sun and moon, where the missing parent is somewhere unknown (maybe in our time line, maybe somewhere else with their memory whiped. Or even whiped from the timeline completly resulting in no one remembering them at all, and maybe just concluting that it must have been an assistent. The last bit is quite a strech, I know, but the first part seems plausible, especially considering simularities between travel through time and travel through different dimensions
Nothing is impossible in the world of Pokemon that's for sure.
You know what a crazy idea popped in my head that Arven was created by the third legendary through the use of Sada/Turo DNA.
Personally....I feel like the 3rd legendary is Area Zero itself.
Perhaps
I expect the missing parent will be the key to the 3rd legendary.
Possibly
This is probably the best theory for Arven past.
Thank you!
There’s journals in the research stations, one of them states that the other parent just straight up left
Yes which I stated in the video - the question is where? Which is where this video was spawned from.
@@therealdrogane I figured the journal meant the other parent just walked out on them and essentially abandoned the family
not gonna lie im becoming addicted to this channel
Good theory. Is it possible that maybe the other professors of each respective games that left after Arven was born are just more tamed with their beliefs and just left, because they were afraid of each game’s original professor going to far? The A.I is programmed like the professor and goes bezerk trying to stop you from shutting the machine down.
Anything is possible because Pokemon rarely confirms anything these days.
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Hang on, transported? Drogane, who got the Herba Mystica? And how did you get away back in the lab?? You can trust me, I'm not a spy.
I'm not giving away my own lore now. You guys got to piece all this together on your own 🤫
I agree with your theory to a fault, but I think alt Sada is a caretaker in the DLC particularly and alt Turo is a coach. Doing selfless actions that vastly contrast with their mainline versions who where very selfish.
For Arven's sake let's hope so
@Drogane I feel the caveat to this is that this parent has to work long hours to support Arven's schooling, so a parent who cares, but isn't able to be hands on. Also notably there seems to be mentions of mental health in the game that could actually allude to the fact that alt Turo/Sada is a lifestyle coach/therapist role, but what role is lacking among the staff at the academy? The guidance counselor/therapist.
Bro has not read into anything in the dialog in-game, HE SAYS THE HERBAS HELP YOU, HE CANT CONVERT THEMM
No one said anything about converting them. They plant Herba Mystica on the surface and pokemon eat them becoming titans.
Arven takes the Herba Mystica you find and makes food of it to feed to Mabosstiff to help him get better.
It's like you were not even watching the video and the fact you stopped only to make a criticism on a certain word that was used is kind of wild to me in the grand scheme of the content of the video...
That is some rather interesting info that Arven's other parent is just labeled as an unknown assistant. While I'm sure that the other professor is an easy answer as they are the only character to not appear in the opposite version.
Concerning the Herba Mystica, the possibility of it granting a long life is very likely, immortality might be a stretch. It's possible if the subject continues to consume the Herba Mystic that their life force will continuously be renewed. Though as observed in the game, once the titan pokemon are defeated they return to normal size. Being defeated and fainting means that the energy from the herbs is depleted and they are returned to a more normal vigor, though with some potential stat boost.
Exactly but if you have an unlimited supply you are good. Also you have to be defeated first in order for the effects to wear off.
The titans must keep eating the herbs raw, without a supply of the herbs lost their immortality.
I'm not sure if that's confirmed or not.
While playing Violet when the AI said Arvens father died during base 4 accident I kinda wondered then who or how do they know organic matter can go through the Time Machine but can’t com back? Did they send sumone through n that’s how they figured it out?
Also I think the Prof left at the same time as the pictures from one of the bases was taken. I bet the picture of Arvin n Maschiff was the day he got him as a present from them maybe they gave it to him so he wouldn’t be alone when they went back to work in area zero.
Interesting theory. It would explain how they could keep the time machine mechanism going on the other side.
@@therealdrogane The titans must keep eating the herbs raw, without a supply of the herbs lost their immortality.
@@skistorm739 Is that actually confirmed? Either way I said "possible immortality" so I'm safe from redactment. 🤣
@@therealdrogane ua-cam.com/video/_FJJCkk1yrU/v-deo.html something strange theory most never through of.
@@skistorm739 Oh good ol' Tyranitartube. Crack Pot Theories indeed though.
I agree that Arven's other parent has gone through to the past/future but I believe it was a choice they both made as a couple. Unless I have missed something in the story or not understood the way the time machine works... do you put a pokeball in the time machine and it just drops to the floor on the otherside, then stays there till a pardox pokemon touches it and magically comes back through! Surely not right? Someone on the otherside is catching it and sending it back. I'm probably completely wrong lol but loving the chance to theorise about possible outcomes.
Love these videos glad I found ya channel
Thank you!
It's dimension machine,the third legendary is similar to Scarlet witch in marvel that can create pocket dimension and travel other universes.i think the hexagon patterns are connected to multiverse thing..
I think this pokemon actually splits reality, and each game is one side of the story, and thats where the 'other' parent is. Perhaps to get two different machines built and establish an anchor in both the past an the future via the AI professor.
Not sure if it was one of your videos but someone mentioned that for the time machine to actually be a time machine and send a ball out an bring it back with a pokemon, there needed to be another machine on the other side.. but isn't there? In the end of the area zero ark we learn the AI version of the professor is required for the machine to operate *so they leave into the machine* that means now whatever time that machine sent them to *has them there* to potentially be the counterpoint machine.
I think that the "Third legendary" was already introduced in gen 6. It's a Pokémon with hexagonal patterns on its body. I think what's shown in the book is it's egg
Which gen 6 pokemon was it though? (I don't know much about 6 six since I've only played gens 6-7)
@@cync1987 it's a ground and dragon type
@@screechingtoad2683 flygon?
@@screechingtoad2683 oh wait I just remembered zygarde exist
Sada is alive in Violet and Toro is alive in Scarlet.
The intros are always cool Man this one reminded a bit of toonami.
Taking it backkkkk
There either dead or stuck in the other world. The end.
More likely the latter.
Both professor are is parent i think
Maybe the reason sada/turo know we cant comback from where we go with the time machine is because the other never came back
That's a good point!
If that’s all true, man, sucks to be Arven.
One of his parent is a reckless professor who’s already been dead for years and replaced with a AI clone. While the other parent is also reckless, and already left them both. 😓
Yeah it definetely gives N's story a run for his money.
@@therealdrogane N: I have a terrible childhood. I am raised as no more than Ghetsis’s puppet. What makes it worse is that Ghetsis planned to betray me, and he’s probably pure evil.
Arven: Hold my book
So hold on, died this mean mabostiff is posibly some type of super Titan? Since he's been fed ALL variants of herba mystica?
Unclear because Mabosstiff never grows into a titan.
To me I think Arven will be his next parent’s professional professor on the next Scarlet and Violet’s expansion pass Nintendo Switch.
Maybe
Well true be honest i don’t think the Scarlet & Violet expansion pass won’t be worth it because both professor just passed away at the very beginning of the game when our character start our adventure & I believe the dlc is all going to Arven & the new area not his bad parents because they don’t deserve it after they abandoning their son in 2022
Another great vid dood. I couldn't turn anything to negativity impact you theories
Thank you!
I get the feeling that Arven parents are a really bad parents in a Pokémon game & I’m so mad about it even the dlc will worth it just for Arven but not the his bad parents because they abandoning their son & die in the beginning of the game & I have the same guts feeling when I played Story of Seasons Pioneers of Olive Town on Nintendo switch I hate the parents in olive town because they don’t care about their kids at all & I was so mad at Damon parents because they don’t care about their son at all & they ask me to raise their son for them & I’m more like a godfather to their son & I feel so mad & feel bad at the same time
Perhaps
@@therealdrogane yeah & when I watched a child event with Damon & seeing him crying really break my heart immediately & it is my first time seeing a marriage candidates cry in a story of seasons game on Nintendo switch & when I watched people playing Story of Seasons Pioneers of Olive Town on their say so negative energy to Damon & I have to straight up tell them about Damon & what he was going through from entire game from beginning to the post game story in Story of Seasons Pioneers of Olive Town & I’m the only one is married to him & being there for him right by his side & how can everyone hate a bachelor that is very special in his own way & Damon is very special in his own way & he like a brother to me & I’m his sister to him & I’m the same age as him & I drink coffee with him & damon is very happy because I’m there for him in olive town
I wonder if we will see the other professor in the DLC and battle them
That would be amazing!
@@therealdrogane I had my suspicions about Arven but when I
saw he was doing it for his dog I cried because I
Was raised around them when I saw Turo I wanted
to defeat the professor for Arven and when
I see Sada in the DLC I will Ironically defeat
Her with my Miraidon Arven needs all of
the sandwiches and hugs I relate to
Him when it comes with terrible parents
? I always thought he was the son of both professors.
I mean one is a man the other is a woman... he looks like both of them in a way
so it's super clear that Sada and Toro are his parents.
It's because the other professor would not be a professor in their counter part game nor are they shown at all throughout the events of the game either.
Any update for this topic now that we have the Teal Mask and some coverage of the Indigo Disk? Also the professor has a picture of little Arven and Maschiff in their lab, it's a really weird situation
Not really no. I think my Hypothesis on this is still sound
What if sada or turo depends on which game is actually someone from the past or future?
Your voice is similar to Spike Spiegel/ Makoto Shishio from Cowboy Bebop/ Rurouni Kenshin
I wish I voiced acted those characters. That would be amazing but to be compared to them in any way - I'll take it.
Just FYI it's 'Ma-boss-tiff' not 'Ma-bose-tiff'...because of the whole mastiff + mafia boss theme it has going on 🙂
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hi again can explain for the lore this fanmade story this episode 1 an this one please?
That's for you to solve. 🤫
@@therealdrogane ok least anything about the first, get the second video? not the story, but it's what I need to solve?
What about his mother?
I'm going to be honest I think this is the most likely answer
Well thank you!
the mother ent to the past the father went to the future and the playere characters starts froma dn with the present
Sure
Any connection to AZ
No
@@therealdrogane he has the floette rotom phone case in game
didnt the parent leeave an iai aka artificial intelligence s yes possible so we cant say that the parents were heartless and emotioneless
Sure