How FIFA corrupted the World Cup

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  •  2 роки тому +3778

    “Lobbying” was a term created for no purpose other than normalizing bribery.

    • @botsareeverywhere
      @botsareeverywhere 2 роки тому +85

      Yep, #1 issue with many political systems

    • @casedistorted
      @casedistorted 2 роки тому +10

      Good way to put it

    • @dardoura
      @dardoura 2 роки тому +8

      Germany

    • @muslimcel4581
      @muslimcel4581 2 роки тому +21

      Israel is no 1 in lobbying

    • @Squintis
      @Squintis 2 роки тому +26

      All countries have this issue. Also why no country outlaws it. They all take about “change” and “fixing corruption” but they won’t make it illegal to accept bribes.

  • @slavestanchev1518
    @slavestanchev1518 2 роки тому +4279

    Lets be real, when someone says "Lobbying" it usually means bribing... especially when we are talking about politicians.

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer 2 роки тому +26

      politicians and global corporations play a different game than the rest of us... Superbowl, FIFA, UFC, F1, owning a sports team, Media broadcasts, weapon manufacturing, and individual influencers are shopping baskets for them. However, sporting decision doesn't have any impact on ordinary citizens, however, things like media and weapon manufacturing do.

    • @AnonymousReader-er4eg
      @AnonymousReader-er4eg 2 роки тому +7

      No, it's only referred to as "bribery", when it happens in the Global South.
      In the Global North, it's lobbying.

    • @LaurensHouweling
      @LaurensHouweling 2 роки тому +139

      lobbying is just legal bribing

    • @jesusofnazareth3507
      @jesusofnazareth3507 2 роки тому +49

      Qatar learned Lobbying from the US politicians.

    • @lukaz3336
      @lukaz3336 2 роки тому

      @@jesusofnazareth3507 They didn't learn it from anyone. They'd do it regardless of what the US does.

  • @rayj.4527
    @rayj.4527 2 роки тому +14797

    For FIFA it's NOT about the sport. It's about making money and filling their pockets.

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer 2 роки тому +175

      but for us Football fans it really doesn't matter where it's going to be held,

    • @Fischerrrrrrrr
      @Fischerrrrrrrr 2 роки тому +636

      @@Pfyzer that's why they get away with the corruption

    • @deyanfreedom231
      @deyanfreedom231 2 роки тому +17

      Isn’t that what the whole is doing 🤔

    • @slothman9731
      @slothman9731 2 роки тому +35

      EA approves.

    • @justawyrm
      @justawyrm 2 роки тому +12

      @@Fischerrrrrrrr i think hes talking abt football, like the american one

  • @v1nceskid771
    @v1nceskid771 2 роки тому +1322

    I feel that every person in power is corrupt wether it be in a sporting event or in a political sense

    • @ruturajshiralkar5566
      @ruturajshiralkar5566 2 роки тому +30

      There are exceptions.

    • @aimansuriaprakash2380
      @aimansuriaprakash2380 2 роки тому +29

      So if you have power, will you be corrupted as well?
      Or are you suddenly an exception?

    • @thecouncil8973
      @thecouncil8973 2 роки тому +58

      This is hasty overgeneralization. Yes, corruption is widespread but it's not the case for every leader, lawmaker, or politician to have ever lived.

    • @FerdyTheGreat
      @FerdyTheGreat 2 роки тому

      This is the dumbest take I've ever heard. Learn to think logically mate.

    • @placeholerwav
      @placeholerwav 2 роки тому +8

      i feel that you dont know anything about politics or corruption

  • @stevegracious3787
    @stevegracious3787 2 роки тому +15209

    I really appreciate Vox calling the game 'football' instead of 'soccer'!

    • @miss42310
      @miss42310 2 роки тому +221

      I know right!

    • @gthakur17
      @gthakur17 2 роки тому +1195

      and temperature in Celsius

    • @brianherrera1390
      @brianherrera1390 2 роки тому +10

      Thats your only POINT??? THe fifa is corrupt and youre probably a soccer fan. TRASH if thats all you focused on.

    • @miguelalvesmiguel7688
      @miguelalvesmiguel7688 2 роки тому +6

      Yeah they value science and non-retardnesss more than patriotism and tradition I guess

    • @clarke4400
      @clarke4400 2 роки тому +218

      I was smiling from ear to ear

  • @neilwaldock6272
    @neilwaldock6272 2 роки тому +4165

    The Australian taxpayers are still waiting for the return of $50million from FIFA, considering there was zero chance Australia could actually win the bid.

    • @whaleofdarkness
      @whaleofdarkness 2 роки тому +451

      Man, I'm so sorry for you. A world cup down under would have been so great. Aussies brought so much positive energy in all games I've seen.

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer 2 роки тому +20

      if you don't believe your own country to win, then it shalt not

    • @the.villan
      @the.villan 2 роки тому +384

      @@Pfyzer They didn't say that they didn't believe in their country to win, they meant that they didn't believe in FIFA to deliver a fair result. I'm from the UK and we had exactly the same problem with our 2018 bid.

    • @Acidfunkish
      @Acidfunkish 2 роки тому +177

      @@Pfyzer This is an embarrassing comment.

    • @ablecdn1565
      @ablecdn1565 2 роки тому +8

      Didn't you win Olympics in Brisbane?

  • @LS5D
    @LS5D 2 роки тому +2310

    Great example for how power and lots of money ALWAYS corrupt people.

    • @69Solo
      @69Solo 2 роки тому +2

      So if it was held in west then it wouldn't be called as corruption. But since its against in the interest of US its corruption?
      I am still looking for Saddam's WMD's.

    • @jewsaregenocidalhores
      @jewsaregenocidalhores 2 роки тому +47

      It’s more like people corrupt power and money it’s not the money and power forcing them to become corrupt. They’re just disgusting people

    • @francookie9353
      @francookie9353 2 роки тому +81

      Power and money reveal. If the people turn out corrupt, then they always were, they just couldn't afford to show it.

    • @Racko.
      @Racko. 2 роки тому +10

      Money just shows ppl true colors, that’s it

    • @FA-rn1nc
      @FA-rn1nc 2 роки тому +13

      Qatar was actually colonized by the British. Qataris were brutally suppressed every time they wanted freedom. Their resources were plundered. To this day, no apology has been issued.

  • @alex10high
    @alex10high 2 роки тому +1144

    A lot of people and apparently Vox have forgotten that Mexico, who is in North America and not South America, hosted the world cup twice in 1970 and 1986. Which would mean that the first time Fifa hosted the world cup outside of South America and Europe was in 1970.

    • @ropsyso6940
      @ropsyso6940 2 роки тому +2

      The West, the West... anything that does not suit the West is bad, corrupt etc. We have sanctions against any non-European country that does not tow the line.

    • @georgiosioannispappas
      @georgiosioannispappas 2 роки тому +28

      I want to believe that Vox is referring to the Americas in general.

    • @alex10high
      @alex10high 2 роки тому +59

      @@georgiosioannispappas in the video they say that they began to accept bids outside of Europe and South America, with the 1994 and 2002. And if they were talking about the Americas in general then the US has to be put in that category as well.

    • @martyfleckson3104
      @martyfleckson3104 2 роки тому +11

      Mexico is Central America

    • @alex10high
      @alex10high 2 роки тому +126

      @@martyfleckson3104 you obviously failed geography. México is in North America, go ahead and look it up because it is the only way you would believe me. By the way, the countries we say are located in central America are actually still in North America. Because Central America is not a continent.

  • @FelipeKana1
    @FelipeKana1 2 роки тому +2841

    Very strange to not even mention 2014 cup here in Brazil... altough I can imagine it would derail the conversation to other topics equally bad, like useless infrastructure abandoned after the event or forcefully moving away communities to build stadiums. Not to mention that we're in a very hot time politically over here

    • @kingofallworlds
      @kingofallworlds 2 роки тому +119

      A lot of that was covered by Olympics reports

    • @jennanferguson
      @jennanferguson 2 роки тому +91

      I’m pretty sure they have a video on the 2014 World Cup alone

    • @versev0
      @versev0 2 роки тому +3

      2014 world cup most likely Brazilian Government have more corruption then Fifa itself

    • @mooseears9849
      @mooseears9849 2 роки тому +158

      When was Brazil ever NOT in a hot time politically?

    • @blurefr
      @blurefr 2 роки тому +33

      Because no other country put a bid in for 2014, so there was no bribing required

  • @funglegunk
    @funglegunk 2 роки тому +3261

    I think the public were willing to overlook Russia as they have a healthy domestic league with good teams that can compete in Europe, a real football culture, and a strong international team with some well known players who play for prestigious clubs. Just from a football perspective, it makes sense that Russia could host a World Cup.
    Qatar being awarded the World Cup is just so obviously ridiculous on its face, even to people unaware of the backdoor shenanigans.

    • @zaphod4245
      @zaphod4245 2 роки тому +689

      It's also worth remembering that in 2010 when the WC was awarded to Russia, there were no glaring issues, they didn't invade Crimea until 2014 for example, and Russia appeared to be progressing and becoming less authoritarian, so people were more willing to accept it. That isn't the case with Qatar, FIFA has no excuse for that.

    • @miss42310
      @miss42310 2 роки тому +86

      @@zaphod4245 so Putin is ok with you? And you know the world cup took place in 2018 and so the 2014 invasion is somehow excused? Hypocrisy at its best.

    • @Darkcamera45
      @Darkcamera45 2 роки тому +610

      @@miss42310 bro read properly he said from the perspective of someone in 2010 and after a place for the cup is chosen IT CANNOT BE CHANged.

    • @jonahjerryson4913
      @jonahjerryson4913 2 роки тому +168

      @@miss42310 nah bro back in 2010 Russia was a pretty good country for europe so it wasn't that bad but imagine the surprise of the citizens who at the time probably would have never hear of Qatar their entire lives. They must have been shocked.

    • @rosskrt
      @rosskrt 2 роки тому +179

      @@miss42310 “so Putin is ok with you?” ..he didn’t.. write that?

  • @reddy272
    @reddy272 2 роки тому +3106

    This was an absolutely fascinating breakdown of FIFA, I knew it was corrupt but this is on a whole other level.

    • @cagneybillingsley2165
      @cagneybillingsley2165 2 роки тому

      you all have no one but yourselves to blame for blindly supporting every bread and circus crumb the elites allow you

    • @vladyslavdiumin4124
      @vladyslavdiumin4124 2 роки тому +4

      @@MajorMlgNoob Thank you for the hint! Really appreciate your advise to watch this series! Just found it and looking forward to watch it asap!

    • @JN-wr9he
      @JN-wr9he 2 роки тому +20

      Somehow everyone became so bothered about when the Cup went to Qatar. Quite hypocritical actually. All this silly noise with armbands etc is designed to just hold back the up-and-coming nations, not mich different from Britain and other colonial powers trying to hold Germany back before WW1.

    • @ihsan1328
      @ihsan1328 2 роки тому +9

      @@JN-wr9he facts they don't like the idea of middle eastern and religious countries hosting it however it is interesting how qatar do stand up to the critics from the west.

    • @hamidabrar
      @hamidabrar 2 роки тому

      802 likes and 5 comment? Lemme fix that :)

  • @joser51o
    @joser51o 2 роки тому +244

    Anywhere there's alot of money there is corruption somewhere

    • @ro2973
      @ro2973 2 роки тому +12

      like fr every country is corrupt some are just more secretive about it

    • @nasserhalasa395
      @nasserhalasa395 2 роки тому +4

      @@ro2973 the more sophisticated, a country is the better they can hide it, and the more they blame other people for the wrongdoings

    • @Imayebrook
      @Imayebrook 5 місяців тому

      Projecting. This really only happens in the Middle East

  • @demonver87
    @demonver87 2 роки тому +769

    Corruption has always been a feature not a bug in this system. Has there ever been a time when FIFA has not been accused of corrupt practices?

    • @cagneybillingsley2165
      @cagneybillingsley2165 2 роки тому

      you all have no one but yourselves to blame for blindly supporting every bread and circus crumb the elites allow you

    • @vladyslavdiumin4124
      @vladyslavdiumin4124 2 роки тому +9

      Maybe it was but a really loooong time ago. 😅😁

    • @mro9466
      @mro9466 2 роки тому +3

      Yes, but when it involves Russia its worse apparently 🤣
      The US never corrupted anything🤞

    • @FSUSean2112
      @FSUSean2112 Рік тому

      back before WW2

    • @DickCheney205
      @DickCheney205 Рік тому

      @@FSUSean2112not even then 1930 Uruguay was accused of stealing hosting rights from England and they were also accused of forcing Argentine players to lose on purpose. 1934 Italy was accused of cheating their way to win the World Cup.

  • @jaywhangmakes
    @jaywhangmakes 2 роки тому +3638

    This goes into the history of FIFA better than FIFA's own United Passion.

    • @jesusofnazareth3507
      @jesusofnazareth3507 2 роки тому +63

      The 2026 FIFA world cup will be held in the US. The same US that ended thousands of Children's future in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan.

    • @leeweesquee
      @leeweesquee 2 роки тому +3

      And will keep calling is the S word

    • @aldee8333
      @aldee8333 2 роки тому +3

      @@jesusofnazareth3507 every county has killed people to get in the place they are now

    • @Tiago-
      @Tiago- 2 роки тому +3

      Unsurprisingly

    • @Tiago-
      @Tiago- 2 роки тому +1

      @@jesusofnazareth3507, shut up, Jesus.

  • @TherconJair
    @TherconJair 2 роки тому +589

    Don't forget, FIFA has the tax status of a "Verein" (Association) in Switzerland which means they get taxed like a local jodel club, 4.25% tax rate on the federal, 4% on the cantonal level.

    • @RedStarKB
      @RedStarKB 2 роки тому +6

      If you have a problem with that, I would mind FIFA and UEFA paying 4.25% tax in my country.

    • @TherconJair
      @TherconJair 2 роки тому

      @@RedStarKB don't worry, the next country over will take only 3%. And the next 2.5%. And another one even less. Let's race to the bottom faster!

    • @mattpet7913
      @mattpet7913 2 роки тому +8

      Isn't fifa registered as a non profit. I think they've literally never had to pay taxes to the country hosting the wc

    • @nathaneddy502
      @nathaneddy502 2 роки тому +2

      The IOC is the same it's a registered Swiss association.

    • @tempniggi
      @tempniggi 5 місяців тому

      U do realise that fifa doesnt keep the money? They give it to every membrr of the fifa to support building football pitches in 3rd world countries etc…

  • @atiquekhan5543
    @atiquekhan5543 2 роки тому +798

    I find it funny how they just admitted that literally every world cup bid since the beginning had been illicit but still kept on talking about only Russia and Qatar :3

    • @mcleetambe9026
      @mcleetambe9026 2 роки тому +142

      True. Football is not even that popular in USA but they wanted to be involved and control everything.

    • @SpeedKing..
      @SpeedKing.. 2 роки тому +48

      Yes because Qatar against the 'country' that shall not be named

    • @NegaTive337
      @NegaTive337 2 роки тому +30

      Yeah they only noticed this time 😂

    • @blackray2003
      @blackray2003 2 роки тому +159

      This is western's hypocrisy in glory.

    • @miassimohammedaymen9168
      @miassimohammedaymen9168 2 роки тому +62

      Yes, double standards nothing new.

  • @Mr.Septon
    @Mr.Septon 2 роки тому +1597

    Now if only we could get sports fans to care more about the political consequences than their enjoyment of sports, as this whole system has gone off the rails. I feel the same way about the Olympics. We spend so much money internationally on these things, and nations do this for political capital, with a willingness to take major fiscal losses.

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 2 роки тому +2

      Boo keep your hypocrisy and politics to yourself

    • @mochalo4912
      @mochalo4912 2 роки тому +3

      is the usa or France any better ? two imperialist lying countries , the truth is :no country in this world is morale or clean

    • @c.herman8281
      @c.herman8281 2 роки тому +47

      @@mochalo4912 That's right! Not to mention "a major country"'s intervene in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, led to over 7000 of civilians death in Iraq in the name of finding "a weapon of mass destruction" which they didn't find any after aerial bombing the whole country of Iraq~ Calling for human rights and justice

    • @Mr.Septon
      @Mr.Septon 2 роки тому +51

      Are you guys saying these things like it counters anything I am saying? I am not saying that America is all-deserving of, anything. I'm not American on top of that.
      Just because no nation is perfect that means that this unusually high level of corruption is okay? Laws are neat in your mind. I don't expect host nations to be perfect, far from it. I think it reasonable to set a base level of "well that's too much corruption", but hey, defend wrongdoings because America went to war in Iraq... Absolute top notch logic 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @hansklok3564
      @hansklok3564 2 роки тому +18

      Idc about fiscal losses, the cost on the climate for a useless prestige program however…

  • @DanielNeves90
    @DanielNeves90 2 роки тому +51

    In 2026 it will be in the US, does that mean that there was honesty in that choice? No corruptions for being in the US?

    • @rexsybimatrimawahyu3292
      @rexsybimatrimawahyu3292 2 роки тому +30

      There will be "no corruption" in Fifa decision for chosing US for the 2026 world cup 😁. Imma bet the western media will try justify the US's host in 2026 world cup to be fair and share with zero corruption at all

    • @mainsmain
      @mainsmain 5 місяців тому +7

      It will be held in the USA, Canada and México not only the USA

    • @jaym2267
      @jaym2267 5 місяців тому +1

      USA, Canada, and Mexico are jointly hosting the 2026. Hosting the World Cup has proven for most host countries that it isn't really worth bidding if theyre required to spend billions on new stadiums etc. USA Canada and Mexico already have everything needed to host the world cup and don't need to spend nearly as much

    • @ipot2871
      @ipot2871 4 місяці тому

      @@rexsybimatrimawahyu3292 Alright bro, the newer events have changed everything

    • @strawberrykun6136
      @strawberrykun6136 4 місяці тому +1

      Corruption happens in countries that are poor, ostracized and authoritarian.

  • @likeastrike1
    @likeastrike1 2 роки тому +514

    Sepp Blatter and his crew. Those people should be jailed, but instead they used their bribe money to eventually sweep their scandals under the Fifa rug and avoid any harsh punishment.

    • @QuestionsAnswerz
      @QuestionsAnswerz 2 роки тому +17

      That’s what Maradona has been saying for a long time, now ppl are starting to recognize.

    • @JN-wr9he
      @JN-wr9he 2 роки тому

      Every major organisation is full of corruption. Read about Unesco and Audrey Azoulay for example. Or the UN. All the same.

  • @nathaneddy502
    @nathaneddy502 2 роки тому +168

    This was something made blatant to me when Rio/brazil won the bid for the Olympics for 2016 and the world cup in 2014. A city and country notorious for decimating human rights. They destroyed entire favelas for stadiums without any new emergency housing construction and now their stadiums are literally derelict. Considering the Olympics IOC is also an organisation based in Switzerland and it works eerily similar to the FIFA exec board. Corruption in sport is blatant.

    • @fuadhassanfaruk4540
      @fuadhassanfaruk4540 2 роки тому +21

      First rule of Western media: If it’s not Russia, China or Middle Eastern, then it's ok

    • @DeficiencyProduction
      @DeficiencyProduction 2 роки тому +14

      The media criticized the Brazil hosting the games, what are you talking about. Even in this video they allege that Germany hosting the world cup was due to corruption. They are criticizing everything. What makes this hypocritical?

    • @FallenLight0
      @FallenLight0 2 роки тому +8

      The head of Rio 2016 Olympics in Brazil went to jail here in Brazil. But the "decimating human rights" was not even close to what happened in Qatar.

    • @nathaneddy502
      @nathaneddy502 2 роки тому +3

      @@FallenLight0 my guy what is this what aboutism. We aren't seeing who is the worst at disobeying human rights 😂

  • @marcoschagas9646
    @marcoschagas9646 2 роки тому +106

    FIFA President even said recently that he is open to the idea of North Korea hosting a World Cup.

    • @whoopsies305
      @whoopsies305 2 роки тому +79

      This would legit be the funniest thing ever for me

    • @potato88872
      @potato88872 2 роки тому +41

      Finaly, north korea can use that 200.000 stadium for something then cannobal execution

    • @asha8443
      @asha8443 2 роки тому +14

      Would depend if North Korea had enough money to bribe

    • @potato88872
      @potato88872 2 роки тому +14

      @@asha8443 they could donate a nuke to them

    • @astronotics531
      @astronotics531 2 роки тому +19

      This is misinformation... the FIFA President has submitted the idea of an organization with North and South Korea to unite the countries under the emblem of football.

  • @moshoodbakare1210
    @moshoodbakare1210 2 роки тому +41

    The World Cup isn't corrupt when the host is a western nation but when the countries you don't like get to host it, it becomes corrupt. If you want to have a separate World Cup, maybe you guys should organize your own World Cup filled with your own teams while the "corrupt" countries that are left out host their own World cup.
    32 countries play in the World Cup. Europe gets 13 slots, which is almost half of the available slots and half of the number of countries in Europe. Meanwhile, Africa, which has 54 countries (the most in the world), gets just 5 slots. If that isn’t corruption, then tell me what is.

    • @dannychamberlain6244
      @dannychamberlain6244 Рік тому

      Genocidal maniaca

    • @xnrq
      @xnrq Рік тому

      Ur slow

    • @glacousxx
      @glacousxx 6 місяців тому +3

      I know im late but i was trying to look back into the world cup allegations and your comment should be much higher.

    • @kiboma4209
      @kiboma4209 3 місяці тому

      Thats not corruption thats judt logic, Europe and South america get more positons because they have BETTER teams, if africa became better, theyd have more places

  • @MSeaNP
    @MSeaNP 2 роки тому +278

    I still absolutely love Sepp Blatter's face being thumped with wads of cash.😂

    • @wetguavass
      @wetguavass 2 роки тому

      How USA corrupted FIFA. ...slowly, FIFA will make changes that favor the USA...

  • @patrickkirby6580
    @patrickkirby6580 2 роки тому +94

    Russia World Cup 2018:- *CORRUPTION*
    America World Cup 2026:- *DEMOCRACY*

    • @adly__
      @adly__ 6 місяців тому

      It seems that when the World Cup isn't hosted in a Western country, there's a tendency to cry foul and label it as corruption. It's as if some people in the West are ignorant of the fact that it's called the World Cup for a reason. Perhaps they're just upset about missing out on the profits it's very clear atp

    • @DaveLeon-bp6eu
      @DaveLeon-bp6eu 5 місяців тому +4

      😂

    • @strawberrykun6136
      @strawberrykun6136 4 місяці тому +1

      Russian apologists always be like 'nuu about my amehica!! 😡' maybe don't do corruption if you don't wanna be seen that way?

    • @patrickkirby6580
      @patrickkirby6580 4 місяці тому

      @@strawberrykun6136 Americans should stop acting like they’re superior. they’re not.

    • @footballnerd277
      @footballnerd277 3 місяці тому +1

      In 2000 and 2016, George Bush and Donald Trump both became president despite getting less votes.
      America is not a democracy.

  • @Thethinker-9002
    @Thethinker-9002 2 роки тому +86

    Funny how when Germany does it, it barely has a reaction, but when Qatar or Russia do it, everyone loses their mind.

    • @joccerca9051
      @joccerca9051 2 роки тому +8

      Probably because workers in Qatar and unpopular opinions on Russia

    • @Elver_Galarga816
      @Elver_Galarga816 2 роки тому +43

      Because Hollywood tells me they are evil

    • @haneef4189
      @haneef4189 2 роки тому +1

      @@joccerca9051
      What about workers in Qatar?

    • @joccerca9051
      @joccerca9051 2 роки тому +7

      @@haneef4189 They are saying that workers are being mistreated because of Qatari law and workers dying making the stadiums for the world cup

    • @just_me_1044
      @just_me_1044 2 роки тому +8

      There was quite a reaction in the media here in Germany, a big public discussion and people involved were disgraced publicly

  • @00mimir
    @00mimir 2 роки тому +349

    Why Brazil's Cup wasn't mentioned? We built a lot of stadiums that there is no team to maintain it and was one of the most expensive WC in history.

    • @rodrigobiguelini
      @rodrigobiguelini 2 роки тому +1

      Thats what I thought! I guess it because LULA was in chage and the world press dont want to expose him right now

    • @PopTartNeko
      @PopTartNeko 2 роки тому +6

      Just curious. But doesnt FIFA provide funds for stadium building/preparation?

    • @vitormascarenhas4884
      @vitormascarenhas4884 2 роки тому +82

      Of course not. But Brazil decided to build these stadiums far away (Amazon, West, etc) to show the entire country to the world. It's like the US deciding that Alaska should host a game in the 2026 WC. Total absurd.

    • @doniramdoni3884
      @doniramdoni3884 2 роки тому +1

      How much exactly

    • @MajorMlgNoob
      @MajorMlgNoob 2 роки тому +31

      FIFA Declared that 2014 be a South American Tournament so only those nations could bid and in the end it was just Brazil who had their bid so no need to buy votes when Brazil was the only candidate

  • @Bum_Hip
    @Bum_Hip 2 роки тому +364

    Just because FIFA took the bribes, is no excuse for countries like The USA, France, and The UK, to accept the invitation to play. If the developed world was as outraged by the corruption as they pretended to be, they would simply not go. Their presence at this event speaks volumes. The corruption is accepted, if not endorsed by all countries attending.

    • @humptydumpty1481
      @humptydumpty1481 2 роки тому +11

      Exactly

    • @thwalesproductions
      @thwalesproductions 2 роки тому +13

      Thing about UK is that it's made up of 4 national teams, Wales obviously wouldn't deny the chance to go to the world cup because of the 64 year wait, England on other hand could of

    • @framegrace1
      @framegrace1 2 роки тому +49

      I tend to think the same, bu this is all way too complex for a country to decide... is like boycottig Olympics.
      Most players, for example, would go no matter what... they whole careers depend on this sort of things.
      And this is why being corrupt in this sort of organizations is so miserable....

    • @AshrakAhmed
      @AshrakAhmed 2 роки тому +18

      Qatar has a lot of investment in all the of the countries mentioned, Do you really think Western politicians will bite the hand that feeds?

    • @Bum_Hip
      @Bum_Hip 2 роки тому +9

      @@AshrakAhmed absolutely not. That is why I say the aforementioned countries are complicit in the corruption.

  • @faramund9865
    @faramund9865 2 роки тому +227

    They don't just corrupt the event, but also the matches. As long as their pockets are lined they will continue this shameless practice.

    • @uki5259
      @uki5259 2 роки тому +19

      I feel real sorry for Ronaldo

    • @enchantedsooya
      @enchantedsooya 2 роки тому +2

      @@uki5259 why

    • @Shane-cu1mj
      @Shane-cu1mj 2 роки тому

      100% agreed

    • @hotmike505
      @hotmike505 2 роки тому +16

      @@enchantedsooya because fifa corrupted the 2022 tournament for Argentina to win

    • @CHr0N1CP4N1C
      @CHr0N1CP4N1C 2 роки тому +23

      cut back on the copium bruh

  • @huzaifa8665
    @huzaifa8665 2 роки тому +50

    FIFA hosts world cup in a non-western country: the entire western world suddenly realizes fifa is corrupt

    • @souvikrc4499
      @souvikrc4499 2 роки тому

      If that’s true, then they should’ve realized that back in 2018.

    • @roccobln10
      @roccobln10 2 роки тому +3

      We blame FIFA for corruption for decades. I never forget World Cup 2002 South Korea Vs Italy.

  • @willwhite636
    @willwhite636 2 роки тому +109

    What's next? Are corporations going to be allowed to make bids?
    "The 2026 World Cup will be hosted by Amazon"
    -Brought to you by Raid Shadow Legends

    • @mejsjalv
      @mejsjalv 2 роки тому +22

      I assume you say it half joking, but I can actually see such thing happening.

    • @asterphyll
      @asterphyll 2 роки тому +11

      Please delete this comment. This is inception level

    • @mystorey
      @mystorey 2 роки тому

      underrated

    • @mystorey
      @mystorey 2 роки тому +7

      Hosted by facebook in metaverse would be better

    • @speeder3235
      @speeder3235 2 роки тому

      considering Amazon kinda is global, I feel like they'd do a better job than Fifa themselves (I might be wrong though)

  • @Tiger_Woo_dds
    @Tiger_Woo_dds 2 роки тому +154

    With respect to your research, i can say two things with high certainty: 1 it's because of the money. 2 look into f1, Olympics, or ANY organization. Our downfall is our greed.

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer 2 роки тому

      but does it affect ordinary watchers?

    • @portuenglish1
      @portuenglish1 2 роки тому +3

      "For the love of money is the root of all evil"

    • @ianism3
      @ianism3 2 роки тому +1

      sure, but FIFA is much, much more corrupt than even the Olympics or the NFL or whatever. it's been very well-documented.

    • @analcommando1124
      @analcommando1124 2 роки тому

      out of curiosity when was the last time you at IOC's process? 20 years ago?

    • @kentozapater8972
      @kentozapater8972 2 роки тому

      Its our fault, fans, that these things happens

  • @RevengeBCN
    @RevengeBCN 2 роки тому +292

    To be honest Qatar has been one of the most fun to watch world cups in 2000's

    • @MrBeklager
      @MrBeklager 2 роки тому +4

      Why?

    • @pedrosalazar6310
      @pedrosalazar6310 2 роки тому +27

      @@MrBeklager Upsets on upsets

    • @work90
      @work90 2 роки тому +28

      @@pedrosalazar6310 nah 2010 was the best so far,
      Followed by 2014 and then 2002

    • @pedrosalazar6310
      @pedrosalazar6310 2 роки тому

      @@work90 I never said this World Cup was the best or better than any other previous World Cups. I just stated why the original commenter said this has been one of the most fun World Cups

    • @austinvalentine6126
      @austinvalentine6126 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, thanks to the teams in it

  • @Mitjitsu
    @Mitjitsu 2 роки тому +14

    The fact that only a couple of dozen people get to decide where the tournament is held is what leads to the situation.

  • @milpa4410
    @milpa4410 2 роки тому +76

    I don’t think Russia was a bad choice . Hear me out . Bid took place in 2010 before a massive international conflict with Ukraine . Russia has a football culture with a lot of fans and a lot of top1-top2 tier European clubs so it was absolutely reasonable to pick russia at the moment . The woman asked is they are ok with what’s happening now , but like cmon , they cannot predict the future .. WC went great in russia and was one of the most organized WC in this century . Meanwhile Qatar had human rights violation , no football nation , hot weather . In my opinion Russia wasn’t a bad pick , but Qatar was awful

    • @furiousfaidh6036
      @furiousfaidh6036 2 роки тому +2

      so russia invading ukraine isnt a human right violation

    • @blustery_tabletop
      @blustery_tabletop 2 роки тому +8

      Yes but they did annex Crimea & basically stole the land from them in 2014. Which is what they're currently trying to do to the rest of Ukraine.

    • @thwalesproductions
      @thwalesproductions 2 роки тому +18

      @@blustery_tabletop But in a 2010 perspective, Russia was a growing country becoming more friendly with the west, and once a country gets the place you can't really take it away therefore the 2018 WC went ahead

    • @shoukatsukai
      @shoukatsukai 2 роки тому +6

      Russia in 2010 was led by Medvedev, so it seemed back then Russia was going in a more open direction.

    • @GhostKiller755
      @GhostKiller755 2 роки тому +4

      @@blustery_tabletop Still, that was 4 years after the bid.

  • @ryanadams0922
    @ryanadams0922 2 роки тому +396

    1:25 "How did FIFA go from organizing one of the most beloved sporting events in the world ...to corrupting it?" I can tell you in ONE WORD!
    GREED

    • @erinpilla
      @erinpilla 2 роки тому +1

      they def watched Gordon Gekko's speech

    • @yfitzgodbless6573
      @yfitzgodbless6573 2 роки тому +3

      The same thing could be said about any government in the world

    • @ryanmclaren8570
      @ryanmclaren8570 2 роки тому +2

      yeah basically money

    • @MJ-jf7zw
      @MJ-jf7zw 2 роки тому +3

      1 Timothy 6:10
      For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

  • @lat01290
    @lat01290 2 роки тому +7

    Why do they dig so deep into how Russia and Qatar got the right to host World Cup without showing us any particular insight into how U.S, Japan and Korea earned such right. One more thing, why Russian national football team is eliminated from World Cup qualifier despite FIFA's slogan "No politics in football".

  • @wazzup233
    @wazzup233 2 роки тому +249

    I hope Vox should also make a video about the corruption on the Olympics as well.

    • @ianism3
      @ianism3 2 роки тому +34

      sure, but they'll do it when the Olympics are happening. also it's not anywhere close to being as corrupt as FIFA.

    • @Technoplane
      @Technoplane 2 роки тому +7

      Ye North Korea wasn’t too bad of a olympics

    • @FS-me8mj
      @FS-me8mj 2 роки тому +21

      Yeah they'll do if it is hosted by a muslim country

    • @AzelVonAzrael
      @AzelVonAzrael 2 роки тому +12

      They will... When it's a muslim country

    • @thomaskennedy5728
      @thomaskennedy5728 2 роки тому +1

      @@FS-me8mj no

  • @TheNizoubizou
    @TheNizoubizou 2 роки тому +12

    The only reason FIFA got exposed is because USA wasn't choosen as a host for 2018 or 2022.

  • @Jack-lo3ky
    @Jack-lo3ky 2 роки тому +593

    Lol when you realize literally every world cup was corrupt and not voted for at all 🤗😂
    Thank you guys for the likes etc, I wasn't really expecting anything my comment, it goes to show how strong people's thoughts are on corruption 👍

    • @wetguavass
      @wetguavass 2 роки тому +2

      How USA corrupted FIFA. ...slowly, FIFA will make changes that favor the USA...

    • @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9718
      @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9718 2 роки тому +128

      But people are angry at Qatar suddenly

    • @shadowcaster7294
      @shadowcaster7294 2 роки тому +95

      @@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9718 The media pick and choose what they want people to consume hence why people have only started to hate on Quatar and not the previous countries. It's annoying.

    • @Nipiniponipi
      @Nipiniponipi 2 роки тому +5

      every single one!

    • @kate-he6xt
      @kate-he6xt 2 роки тому

      @@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9718 this

  • @ibrahimmohamed3009
    @ibrahimmohamed3009 2 роки тому +111

    Why don't you talk about the first time when Italy hosted the world cup under the pressure of their government before the second world war and they paid money to the referee 😊

    • @work90
      @work90 2 роки тому +25

      Because that's so obvious. Everyone already knows it's rigged

    • @bluecloudd4144
      @bluecloudd4144 2 роки тому

      Because they’re arrogant they cant bare the thought of a middle eastern country hosting a sporting event

    • @bluecloudd4144
      @bluecloudd4144 2 роки тому

      Because they’re arrogant they cant bare the thought of a middle eastern country hosting a sporting event

  • @MonkeyDLuffy-nj2px
    @MonkeyDLuffy-nj2px 2 роки тому +23

    2002, 2006, 2010, 2014 were shady as well. They even investigated against Franz Beckenbauer for the World Cup in Germany. "mysteriously" nothing came out of it and now he is too sick for a year long trial anyways

  • @re1ic
    @re1ic 2 роки тому +49

    Thanks for the use of football and Celsius! As a European I truly appreciate it!

    • @achyuththouta6957
      @achyuththouta6957 2 роки тому

      I call it soccer and I'm not from the America. Only Europe calls it football. In rest of the world it's called soccer.

    • @re1ic
      @re1ic 2 роки тому +9

      @Achyuth Thouta no, only people who haven't been influenced by America do. Imagine your country/continent invents a sport, another country changes the name of that sport, has no further interest in it, then the rest of the world is just like "sounds good to me". Oh, and it's called football bc you use your feet, it's not rocket science

    • @international_fraud
      @international_fraud 2 роки тому

      @@achyuththouta6957 uy from Africa?

    • @14hm83
      @14hm83 2 роки тому

      Nobody asked

    • @re1ic
      @re1ic 2 роки тому

      @@14hm83 iladies did

  • @francibrahollari4106
    @francibrahollari4106 2 роки тому +26

    Its called the world cup, it should be played in different countries not the same countries....

    • @fandefoot3511
      @fandefoot3511 2 роки тому +1

      Facts

    • @lewissthompson2005
      @lewissthompson2005 6 місяців тому

      Would love if fifa made it that if you have hosted you cannot host again for 50 years, But they cant just do it anywhere unfortunately As not alot of countries (Especially non-football obsessed nations) have the infrastructure to support the world cup, let alone the thousands that attend.

    • @Azact
      @Azact 6 місяців тому

      Yeah but still they were bribed into letting russia and qatar so it

    • @Azact
      @Azact 6 місяців тому

      That doesn’t justify corruption

    • @lewissthompson2005
      @lewissthompson2005 6 місяців тому

      @@Azact No one said it does

  • @the_real_idoit8166
    @the_real_idoit8166 2 роки тому +141

    Funny how Russia and Qatar are the only countries talked about when corruption in fifa is talked about I get it it’s basically the popular thing rn to hate on those two countries but come on did we really forget about 2002

    • @xBornChampionx
      @xBornChampionx 2 роки тому

      What happened in 2002?

    • @georgiosioannispappas
      @georgiosioannispappas 2 роки тому +6

      At least in 2002, the World Cup was held into two western-like democratic states. In the past two World Cups, this hasn't been the case.

    • @qGods
      @qGods 2 роки тому +3

      @@georgiosioannispappas yet western countries are the biggest terrorists the world has ever seen, so where is this double standard coming from?

    • @hello-bg9hp
      @hello-bg9hp 2 роки тому +51

      @@georgiosioannispappas Lol, why the World Cup should take place into "western-like" states?

    • @nekopop8159
      @nekopop8159 2 роки тому +2

      @@xBornChampionx Worker’s abuse in Qatar and Russians being suppressed in Russia.

  • @Travelfit55
    @Travelfit55 2 роки тому +41

    Was waiting for VOX video on the controversy and here it is 👍🏻

  • @pieterrossouw8596
    @pieterrossouw8596 2 роки тому +380

    As a South African, the 2010 was a hard loss for the country's economy.

    • @ghosty0612
      @ghosty0612 2 роки тому +68

      Brazil also feels with you

    • @scrambaba
      @scrambaba 2 роки тому +8

      Nobody cares about that, since there is no accountability on anyone’s part for the after-effects.

    • @ghosty0612
      @ghosty0612 2 роки тому +51

      @@scrambaba I don't know about South Africa but Brazil definitely cared lol

    • @scrambaba
      @scrambaba 2 роки тому +23

      @@ghosty0612 Right, I meant more that nobody cares at the time the palms are greased and the decisions are made. The losses and harm suffered as a consequence do make people who care about such things angry, I agree. The crooks almost never pay the price, nor do the greedy organizers who are driven by money and power as well.

    • @khietnguyen9505
      @khietnguyen9505 2 роки тому +2

      @@ghosty0612 But whole world knew about Brazil culture after that, just bad accountants

  • @victoriap1561
    @victoriap1561 2 роки тому +7

    Fifa has been corrupt since forever. Americans and Europeans got mad that they didn't get the WC. Both russia and qatar ended up organizing good tournaments.

  • @lord9490
    @lord9490 2 роки тому +38

    Fifa will not be called corrupt if wc was held in europe and america

  • @sp6068
    @sp6068 2 роки тому +89

    Netflix released a documentary on FIFA too. You should watch it for in depth info on the level of corruption it brought to football.

    • @martogambir
      @martogambir 2 роки тому +2

      Whats the title?

    • @specsli8931
      @specsli8931 2 роки тому +9

      @@martogambir FIFA Uncovered. ⚽

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer 2 роки тому +3

      @@specsli8931 take Politcal Science... it'll uncover a lot of things and why FIFA is like this

    • @GEliteG
      @GEliteG 2 роки тому +2

      Many channels coordinated a same timed attack. Love it when they expose themselves

    • @specsli8931
      @specsli8931 2 роки тому

      @@GEliteG There's also a similar documentary released last year, available on HBO Max, called The Man Who Sold the World Cup. ⚽💵
      It's definitely a hot topic!

  • @stevenfoster9402
    @stevenfoster9402 2 роки тому +113

    Couldn't help but think of the similarities between FIFA and the U.S. congress with its "lobbyists"

    • @aycc-nbh7289
      @aycc-nbh7289 2 роки тому +6

      At least the Senate isn’t the only chamber with the power to pass legislation. And I do believe that this sort of lobbying will inevitably be common to all countries that aren’t either direct democracies or absolute monarchies or dictatorships.

    • @johnathanasiou9284
      @johnathanasiou9284 2 роки тому

      Bullseye Steven!.
      When FIFA does it, it's "corruption".
      When US congress & democrat politicians do it, it's "democracy in action" lol

    • @adilprimaputra2001
      @adilprimaputra2001 2 роки тому

      U.S is just salty cuz Qatar is lucky to have massive oil reserve, envy at play here

    • @dannychamberlain6244
      @dannychamberlain6244 2 роки тому

      Qatar bribed FIFA.

    • @Jade-tf5kb
      @Jade-tf5kb 2 роки тому

      @@aycc-nbh7289 the senate can’t pass anything without it going through congress so you should of used congress as an example not the senate

  • @rolandobaluja7504
    @rolandobaluja7504 2 роки тому +261

    Questions people don't ask when it comes to hosting a World
    1. If your country is in debt why would you say you want to host the world cup
    2. If you previously hosted a World Cup and did not generate Revenue to stimulate your country's economy why would you be giving the opportunity again
    3 what specific criteria did they need to host the World Cup other than winning the favor of the members of the board

    • @whoamitodisagree1217
      @whoamitodisagree1217 2 роки тому +54

      Public sports events never generate profits for the countries. The Olympics are always a huge loss.
      It’s more about the soft power you gain. The whole world looks at your country.

    • @lunayen
      @lunayen 2 роки тому +20

      1) The WC brings in tourists who also travel around the country, generating more views and word of mouth experiences. This is what brings in the revenue.
      3) The main thing you need is to be able to sure you have or are willing to build the infrastructure necessary to allow the games to go smoothly.

    • @rolandobaluja7504
      @rolandobaluja7504 2 роки тому +4

      @@lunayen it's all about playing the long game and if you think about it the temporary stimulation of the economy is a short fix and won't have long lasting effect

    • @nehalilisays
      @nehalilisays 2 роки тому +13

      Almost every country is in debt - especially all the big countries with big football culture.

    • @rolandobaluja7504
      @rolandobaluja7504 2 роки тому +2

      @@nehalilisays yes there is a great deal of countries in debt but from a logical standpoint if you're in a bad financial position you should not be living outside your means. If you can't invest in your people you should not be investing in the World Cup especially since it's not going to generate more income than you're going to spend

  • @bushidotestu1997
    @bushidotestu1997 2 роки тому +107

    It is disgusting of just how much power a bunch of football nerds was able to acquire and how much they’ve abused it since

    • @OedipusVonFaust
      @OedipusVonFaust 2 роки тому +9

      Nerds? they are out there making money whilst you sit here and comment on a dying channel.
      who is really the "nerd" here really?

    • @sneaky3384
      @sneaky3384 2 роки тому +20

      @@OedipusVonFaustthe football nerds

    • @connorpark2452
      @connorpark2452 2 роки тому +17

      @@OedipusVonFaust the football nerds

    • @justinskrzelowski9448
      @justinskrzelowski9448 2 роки тому

      @@OedipusVonFaust why are you in such a rush to defend a bunch of corrupt millionaires

    • @Adam-mv4fw
      @Adam-mv4fw 2 роки тому +5

      @@OedipusVonFaust the football nerds

  • @forevaschemin
    @forevaschemin 2 роки тому +68

    To be fair the world cup has never been hosted in the middle east and Russia before. It's a world cup so should be allowed all over the world. England and USA have hosted it already. It can't always go round to the same countries

    • @Tdshger
      @Tdshger 2 роки тому +3

      That's true and Russia was wierd but not the worst. Quatar was strange. I mean nobody is doing football in 50 degrees.

    • @markwashington7731
      @markwashington7731 2 роки тому +3

      @@Tdshger
      Exactly no one is that's what it is in winter time with AC built in stadiums. Today for example during Wales vs England the temperature was 26 degrees outside and 21 degrees inside the stadium

    • @Soosss
      @Soosss 2 роки тому

      Basically west countries bribing fifa = good, anyone else = bad 👍

  • @rodrigom3677
    @rodrigom3677 2 роки тому +166

    Mexico is in North America, making it the First Nation outside of Europe and South America to host the World Cup in 1970.

    • @lexezlao
      @lexezlao 2 роки тому +2

      I mean it's still america
      also Mexico is so close to south America in football it really shouldn't count

    • @lexezlao
      @lexezlao 2 роки тому +16

      @@artemnoelgames nope

    • @yeahyeahhhhh698
      @yeahyeahhhhh698 2 роки тому

      Don't think people would be safe there with their mass $hooting.

    • @lexezlao
      @lexezlao 2 роки тому +2

      @@yeahyeahhhhh698 talking about the US of course

    • @yeahyeahhhhh698
      @yeahyeahhhhh698 2 роки тому

      @@lexezlao 😅 great guess

  • @breakaleg10
    @breakaleg10 2 роки тому +128

    "Today I feel hypocritical"
    - Gianni Infantino

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer 2 роки тому +4

      man woke up and choose violence

    • @jyhan1q94
      @jyhan1q94 2 роки тому +5

      You can't spell his name without "infant".
      At this point, that's the reason why I don't trust him.

    • @achyuththouta6957
      @achyuththouta6957 2 роки тому

      @@jyhan1q94 he's not that bad

  • @zazzyzzz
    @zazzyzzz 2 роки тому +37

    You said it only now. It happens for a long time. Mainly the players that are connected with all kinds of messed up things. The Brazilian 2014 world cup was one of the most corrupt. Panis et circenses. It is all a big show for the herd.

  • @bilawalbaloch3655
    @bilawalbaloch3655 2 роки тому +33

    If they vote for American or European then it's not corruption, if once in a history any Islamic country represent the even every one in the West is crying 🤣🤣🤣

    • @RealGuyNiche
      @RealGuyNiche 2 роки тому +1

      has nothing to do with island its more of a corruption and democracy problem

    • @CleansCash
      @CleansCash 2 роки тому +7

      true 😂

    • @ahmedfn7739
      @ahmedfn7739 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly 😂

    • @ahmedfn7739
      @ahmedfn7739 2 роки тому

      @@RealGuyNiche island?

    • @RealGuyNiche
      @RealGuyNiche 2 роки тому

      @@ahmedfn7739 lol 😂 i didn't even notice that sorry

  • @schnitzelsemmel
    @schnitzelsemmel 2 роки тому +60

    You forgot the Brazil bid which wasn't without problems either and that the vote for 2018 and 2022 was held on the same day which was not common before

    • @gustavosoares9279
      @gustavosoares9279 2 роки тому +4

      They didnt forget, cannot go against your own narrative about the former president Lula and now elected for 3th time. Not to mention the Olympics which was hold in Brazil too. At the time with notices about over billed stadiums in a country with poor public health, schools and infrastructure Ronaldo said " We cannot host a Wold Cup with hospitals". Just the Lula government can make a full documentary.

    • @MajorMlgNoob
      @MajorMlgNoob 2 роки тому

      They only mentioned 2006 and 2010 due to the selection process having bribes
      There was 1 candidate for 2014

  • @aymanelkati3500
    @aymanelkati3500 2 роки тому +31

    So the Usa 2026 bid was fair and honest ??

    • @PaulGuy
      @PaulGuy 2 роки тому

      Of course not, no bid is. It can't be, if someone is going to win. But your whataboutism doesn't change what has been happening for decades. This is a FIFA corruption problem, first and foremost. Try to stay on topic.

    • @dropit7694
      @dropit7694 2 роки тому

      @@PaulGuy How is it whataboutism that your country is as corrupt as those you accuse it of? When will you clean house?
      We all know FIFA is corrupt, but pointing out single countries for it is ludicrous

    • @Asoka-great
      @Asoka-great 2 роки тому +1

      Yes.

    • @CampusMania
      @CampusMania 2 роки тому

      Of course it wasn't! Vox is a US media company so they will just say we are the civilized people who won't bribe FIFA and won the bid with honor lol

    • @malhar073
      @malhar073 2 роки тому +4

      thats the purpose of video. To justify and glroify USAs bid

  • @MuhammadAmin-ov4uv
    @MuhammadAmin-ov4uv 8 місяців тому +4

    Although corruption was there we can admit that both tournaments both 2018 and 2022 were full of amazing moments

    • @Recatonyllaer
      @Recatonyllaer 8 місяців тому

      Me as a german objects

    • @MuhammadAmin-ov4uv
      @MuhammadAmin-ov4uv 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@Recatonyllaer yes because as we know germany flopped both those tournaments 🤪

  • @mclovin156
    @mclovin156 2 роки тому +40

    So the video is basically “If your Country is not from EU you bought your World Cup”

    • @TheMickaelD
      @TheMickaelD 2 роки тому +4

      Isn’t Germany in Europe?

    • @RezetRoy
      @RezetRoy 2 роки тому

      @@TheMickaelD Germany are not flaming about it. UK does, always

    • @mohammedrahoy3064
      @mohammedrahoy3064 2 роки тому

      Hahahah true 😅

  • @BlackWater_49
    @BlackWater_49 2 роки тому +84

    6:45 If I remember correctly it wasn't Germany as a country but their football federation, the DFB who did it...

    • @lunayen
      @lunayen 2 роки тому +14

      This is mentioned though, earlier in the video. Even so, that money still had to come out of Germany's coffers, so the government is also partially to blame.

    • @BlackWater_49
      @BlackWater_49 2 роки тому +2

      @@lunayen The money the DFB has singular control over isn't really.

    • @framegrace1
      @framegrace1 2 роки тому +15

      It wasn't Germany as a country, but their Foreign Minister. It wasn't Germany as a country, but the Parlament. It wasn't Germany as a country, but the Prime minister...... THe money comes from the same place.

    • @BlackWater_49
      @BlackWater_49 2 роки тому +2

      @@framegrace1 Which Prime Minister are you talking about?

    • @philbertphettbart7930
      @philbertphettbart7930 2 роки тому +7

      Actual German here. Blackwater 49 is correct and the commenters insinuating that the money used by the DFB to bribe FIFA officials was tax money or saying that "the money comes from the same place" are embarrassing themselves with their ignorance. If you don't know anything about the facts, why comment at all?

  • @flipcats
    @flipcats 2 роки тому +295

    This and Johnny Harris video explain the situation really well. Glad this topic is covered more.

    • @axioms22
      @axioms22 2 роки тому +24

      Literally worst video about this tragedy that dude is so in love with himself lol

    • @1998Cebola
      @1998Cebola 2 роки тому +8

      no, the good ones are by tifo and HITC sevens, two channels that acutally understand football and go in depth on the issue for a couple of hours truly exploring the topic instead of 10 minutes of infographics and buzzwords.

    • @miss42310
      @miss42310 2 роки тому +12

      I think John Oliver did it better

    • @Gbiese
      @Gbiese 2 роки тому +1

      Tifo >>>

    • @EuSou_Eu
      @EuSou_Eu 2 роки тому

      @@1998Cebola this

  • @lvpfan91
    @lvpfan91 2 роки тому +23

    If england and us ware picked, then fifa is not corrupted, right

    • @Bro-h2j
      @Bro-h2j 6 місяців тому

      6 countries hosting a world cup it's not good I mean, Portugal, Morocco, Spain it's better

  • @lildesderman8341
    @lildesderman8341 2 роки тому +19

    I swear to god they would even let North Korea host if they were offered enough money

    • @hydrohasspoken6227
      @hydrohasspoken6227 2 роки тому +1

      You jealous others have more money than you.

    • @obito2262
      @obito2262 2 роки тому

      Could be a chance that this such a huge event help to relate North Korea people and whole other world,to realize to Korean people that other world isn't threaten to them and don't hate them and we colud live in piece and maybe Korea government would take off their Iron Curtain,can it somehow unite people?

    • @andrewnotgonnatellya7019
      @andrewnotgonnatellya7019 2 роки тому

      Gianni Infantiino actually said he'd be open to it

    • @electrikpikachujm69
      @electrikpikachujm69 8 місяців тому

      probobaly lol

  • @hasangilani8809
    @hasangilani8809 2 роки тому +10

    Media was silent about all these corrupt practices when FIFA world cup were hosted in western nations but when it is hosted in Qatar, there is a huge media campaign against it. As always Hypocrisy at it's best

    • @davidevans916
      @davidevans916 2 роки тому

      Not really, the media have always highlighted how corrupt fifa is.
      Now that it’s being held in the most backward and primitive part of the world it’s highlighted it even more.

  • @longbeach13
    @longbeach13 2 роки тому +22

    So for USA 2026 its not corruption 😂i see

    • @Heat_t
      @Heat_t 9 місяців тому +1

      Why would it be

    • @glacousxx
      @glacousxx 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@Heat_t if im being absolutely honest even though america is gigantic with lots of money football isnt their thing their version is different and quite changed .
      Well its not like my opinion matters much but its just doesn't sit with me quite right .
      Theres amazing people on all sides of the world .
      It just seems unexpected.
      I thought they would do south america or europe.
      Well lets see what happens 2 years to go.

    • @Heat_t
      @Heat_t 6 місяців тому

      @@glacousxx it’s called the World Cup for a reason

    • @strawberrykun6136
      @strawberrykun6136 4 місяці тому

      Because they aren't genociders or slaveowners

    • @shrubbyeagle7576
      @shrubbyeagle7576 2 місяці тому

      @@Heat_t ;)

  • @vmkunnari
    @vmkunnari 2 роки тому +20

    Why 2014 Brazil bid was skipped? Nothing shady in that one?

    • @lamchunting856
      @lamchunting856 2 роки тому

      Western Nations need to be friends to with Brazil?

    • @YujiroHanmaaaa
      @YujiroHanmaaaa 2 роки тому +7

      @@lamchunting856 Brazil is a western Nation.

    • @Gareth1892000
      @Gareth1892000 2 роки тому +2

      They skipped the explanation that FIFA used to have a rule of one conferderation allow to bid in a World cup for 2010 and 2014. That's why Brazil won the hosting right since no other South American wants to host for 2014

  • @darrenphoon5333
    @darrenphoon5333 2 роки тому +219

    Exco? More like ExCONMEN, am I right?
    In all seriousness though, this corruption needs to be dealt with. Billions of people watch and play football as part of their life, and FIFA's here throwing it's (and the host of their cup's) reputation in the trash with scandals left and right. At this point, FIFA only exists to benefit the wallets of those in control.

    • @ahmedzain5720
      @ahmedzain5720 2 роки тому +1

      Are they not enjoying it now?

    • @Ben-ix7cq
      @Ben-ix7cq 2 роки тому

      minus the ex as well.

    • @I_Am_Not_Rayyaan
      @I_Am_Not_Rayyaan 2 роки тому

      I mean, think about it, does it concern us? It doesn’t effect us at all, for me at the end of the day I’ll be watching the WC on a television on my couche wherever it is held at, football matches will still happen and that’s all that matters, this corruption thing rlly only effect businessmen and other rich ppl, basically rich people problem, for ppl like us it does nothing

    • @Darkcamera45
      @Darkcamera45 2 роки тому +1

      @@I_Am_Not_Rayyaan it could effect the fairness of the game let me explain some nations are more corrupt than others and in some nations it would be way easier to get away with doping your players making the playing feild unfair.

    • @Darkcamera45
      @Darkcamera45 2 роки тому +2

      @@ahmedzain5720 ​ it could effect the fairness of the game let me explain some nations are more corrupt than others and in some nations it would be way easier to get away with doping your players making the playing feild unfair. I don’t think anyone enjoys a unfair game.

  • @azanshukor428
    @azanshukor428 2 роки тому +46

    when western countries not chosen, they called FIFA as corrupt, when western is chosen, FIFA has made a great decision.. 😂

    • @osoko3995
      @osoko3995 2 роки тому +14

      Double standards rule the west

    • @Toothily
      @Toothily 2 роки тому +2

      They literally called out Germany

  • @TheGeographyNerd
    @TheGeographyNerd Рік тому +2

    The funny thing is that they call themselves a “non-profit organization”

  • @jk9876
    @jk9876 2 роки тому +5

    i love how all the media in the world all of sudden all talk about the same thing at the same time.

  • @MonkeSquid69
    @MonkeSquid69 2 роки тому +93

    USA: gets picked
    this video: never exists

    • @phoenix5054
      @phoenix5054 2 роки тому +16

      USA got picked and this video still exists!

    • @MonkeSquid69
      @MonkeSquid69 2 роки тому +17

      @@phoenix5054 bro? He said 2018 and 2022 like what are you on

    • @andersonandrighi4539
      @andersonandrighi4539 2 роки тому

      @@MonkeSquid69 Canada, USA and Mexico will host 2026 FIFA World Cup. Also US did host the 1994 World Cup.

    • @RezetRoy
      @RezetRoy 2 роки тому +2

      @@phoenix5054 So they bought it

    • @andreavalentino7660
      @andreavalentino7660 2 роки тому

      Yeah american media just hypocrasy

  • @tazzioboca
    @tazzioboca 2 роки тому +70

    If it had been in England (again) or the US (again) or France (again) instead of a country that is not part of the first-world club, would you guys still consider FIFA corrupt? I'm afraid I can guess the answer.

    • @swordoftree
      @swordoftree 2 роки тому +17

      My thoughts exactly!

    • @NuggetOG
      @NuggetOG 2 роки тому +15

      At least 2/3 of those countries have a football culture.
      Qatar has nothing.

    • @ahmedfn7739
      @ahmedfn7739 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly what I was thinking! Their all just racist.

    • @ahmedfn7739
      @ahmedfn7739 2 роки тому +8

      @@NuggetOG bro Qatar has 5 leagues and 30 teams go do your research

    • @darshitpatel1806
      @darshitpatel1806 2 роки тому +18

      @@ahmedfn7739 total population of Qatar is 3,00,000 ( Real Qatari people) …apart from this 95% of the people are immigrants and workers. I don’t think they care about hosting a world cup

  • @Optidorf
    @Optidorf 2 роки тому +5

    Imagine receiving one million dollar as a bribe only to learn later that another exco member received five million.

    • @HWDragonborn
      @HWDragonborn 9 місяців тому

      EXCO play countries against each other for decades, now Russia play EXCO members against each other.

  • @ParkourAnacondaJohnson
    @ParkourAnacondaJohnson 2 роки тому +9

    "If they ban beer what do they drink?" That was the chant that caused the controversy.

    • @doniramdoni3884
      @doniramdoni3884 2 роки тому +4

      Theres something called a "water"

    • @haneef4189
      @haneef4189 2 роки тому +3

      Can you not survive for a few days without alcohol?

    • @davidevans916
      @davidevans916 2 роки тому

      @@haneef4189 or you can just serve us alcohol 🤷🏼‍♂️
      Primitive barbarian

    • @haneef4189
      @haneef4189 2 роки тому

      @@davidevans916
      It's funny how you call me a primitive barbarian when you can't survive for a few days without alcohol. The alcohol ban is one of the reasons that Qatar is one if the safest countries on the planet. Unlike your country

    • @ParkourAnacondaJohnson
      @ParkourAnacondaJohnson 2 роки тому

      @@haneef4189 I just watched a video about the economy of Qatar and it's main source of income is based on oil, with a large immigrant population. It makes sense for the country to not allow alcohol like that, for the safety of the people. You have changed my opinion. 👍

  • @joseignaciolopez4380
    @joseignaciolopez4380 2 роки тому +7

    Yee hee I'm a western power, I'll accuse someone of corruption whenever they support Russia and I'll use the media to back my viewpoint.

  • @jankopandza1072
    @jankopandza1072 2 роки тому +15

    who is here after Argentina vs Croatia and Argentina awarded free penalty ? Got to love these fixed games . Amazing part is that there are still humans out there that think football matches are not fixed :) I am from Croatia and i know Croatia sold so far 2 games in history of world cups. We even know how much money was given to who and who made the deals .. France vs Croatia semi finals sold to France for 17 million euro and political help for Croatia during our post war time. France vs Croatia finals sold for 32 million euro and back up to entering EU community. My dears the world cup is nothing but a political market . what i find strange is that in 2022 after so many documentaries on how all world cups were fixed people still watch it and think something will change..

    • @Frulara
      @Frulara 2 роки тому +2

      Ne bi me cudilo, ali me iskreno zanima odakle ti taj info?

    • @brunonikolic8233
      @brunonikolic8233 2 роки тому +1

      Svaka cast svima govorim kako je utakmica jucer bila namjestena pa dovoljno je Lovrena vidit sto je cinio cijelu utakmicu pogotovo kod 3gola. Znaci nitko me ne moze razuvjerit da nasi bez bitke i puno zutih kartona i prekrsaja mogu onako olako izgubit ako nije u pitanju nesto drugo. Svi pricaju o penalu a to je samo paravan jer mi smo za poraz dobili vise love nego sto bi dobili za pobjedu. Ovo je svjetsko ruganje (nogomet opcenito) i nadam se da ce kad tad istina izac na vidjelo ! Svaka cast mislio sam da sam usamljen u svom razmisljanju.

    • @directorsupremodelriodelap6422
      @directorsupremodelriodelap6422 Рік тому +1

      Te ganamos 3 a 0. No llores.

    • @SJS10-i8z
      @SJS10-i8z 5 місяців тому +1

      Crying?

    • @grez367
      @grez367 5 місяців тому +1

      3-0 battering

  • @TheGeographyNerd
    @TheGeographyNerd Рік тому +6

    I know people always talk about how Russia corrupted the World Cup, but at least they made it to the quarterfinals, like Qatar didn’t even score 3 goals 😂

    • @SJS10-i8z
      @SJS10-i8z 5 місяців тому +1

      also the First host Nation to be disqualified so quickly 😂😂

  • @beauwoods4560
    @beauwoods4560 2 роки тому +21

    Such a shame the World Cup didn't come to Australia. We lead the technical proposal, have a burgeoning domestic league waiting to explode and a massive interest in sport, but just couldn't beat the Qatari money.

    • @johnathanasiou9284
      @johnathanasiou9284 2 роки тому +4

      Our heavy police presence slamming protesters heads into the ground whilst allowing BLM & climate groups to protest multiple times (despite us being under mandatory lockdown) hasn't helped our bids!

    • @johnathanasiou9284
      @johnathanasiou9284 2 роки тому +4

      Kicking out & ridiculing Djokovic in 2021 who won multiple court bids only to be overruled by the former Aussie immigration minister stank of corruption & didn't also help the Aussie bid & only attracted a negative view of our nation from other people overseas

    • @kamakeii
      @kamakeii 2 роки тому

      Qatar did not disappoint tho. Ask anyone who attented

    • @kamakeii
      @kamakeii 2 роки тому

      Attended*

    • @jimrogers2390
      @jimrogers2390 2 роки тому

      The world cup was never going to Australia anyways regardless. It only attracted one measly vote, that says it all. It was a naive bid which wasted a lot of taxpayers money that could of spent at the grassroots of football, now football gets a lot less money per player compared to AFL, Rugby League, Union and Cricket.

  • @TravelTheCraftyLife
    @TravelTheCraftyLife Рік тому +22

    I would prefer a World Cup in Qatar or Russia than in England any day 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @abrahamlupis9354
      @abrahamlupis9354 Рік тому

      why not England?

    • @geox8485
      @geox8485 Рік тому +1

      England would be much better than Russia but politics aside Qatars stadiums and presentation for 2022 was fantastic

  • @bangladesh360aerial
    @bangladesh360aerial 2 роки тому +4

    Corruption is everywhere. But why same country who hosted wc before want to host again? And is WC is only for USA and EU??

  • @randomguy5404
    @randomguy5404 10 місяців тому +10

    2018 and 2022 were one of the best

    • @Mecofmecs
      @Mecofmecs 8 місяців тому +1

      😐 it was literally the worst two 😂

    • @randomguy5404
      @randomguy5404 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Mecofmecs how many wc did you attended in person?

    • @Mecofmecs
      @Mecofmecs 8 місяців тому

      @@randomguy5404 zero how many world cups have you watched back and on top of that from multiple angles ?

    • @randomguy5404
      @randomguy5404 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Mecofmecs 2 Russian one and Qatar one

    • @Mecofmecs
      @Mecofmecs 8 місяців тому

      @@randomguy5404 2 when it wasn’t rigged 2006, and 1 2014

  • @MohamedLeminghabed
    @MohamedLeminghabed 2 роки тому +38

    Besides the corruption Let's also not forget what fifa has done for the Football, help the poor country's like mine i live in mauritania and without the fifa's donation we wouldn't have any pitch or a Football team. back then the players weren't even getting a salary and now every mauritanian footballer owna house and a car and a good salary all this because of the fifa's donation as they did to many other country's

    • @fandefoot3511
      @fandefoot3511 Рік тому

      Depending on foreign aid from FIFA doesn't help your country. You black people still depend on the white man aid instead of seeking true independence yourself. Your presidents are corrupted and take all the money that supposed to go through sports etc. Wake up!

    • @gorg5494
      @gorg5494 Рік тому

      You are an "Apologist"

  • @kmkem5971
    @kmkem5971 Рік тому +13

    whether you like it or not, Qatar 2022 was the best ever

  • @Xeonerable
    @Xeonerable 2 роки тому +59

    I'd like an explanation video on the FBI's international powers, because you hear in this video of them accusing and arresting FIFA people, but how do they have the jurisdiction to do that? Unless this is a different "FBI" at work here?

    • @DaddyFatSzack
      @DaddyFatSzack 2 роки тому +32

      Earth is Americas jurisdiction

    • @valhallagalex
      @valhallagalex 2 роки тому

      when the US Government wants you, there is no Jurisdiction.

    • @pedrocantovitz5247
      @pedrocantovitz5247 2 роки тому

      The FBI was pretty involved in the impeachment of President Dilma in Brasil and operation Lava Jato
      They act like the CIA

    • @Luboman411
      @Luboman411 2 роки тому +18

      The bribe-taking and bribe-giving I think happened in New York City. Under Interpol rules, if a crime happens in U.S. territory and there is strong evidence--video evidence, witness evidence, etc.--showing said crimes occurred within the U.S., then the FBI and other U.S. authorities can then call for those alleged criminals to be hailed back to the U.S. to be tried in U.S. courts. All signatories to Interpol are allowed this privilege. So if criminals commit crimes on Swiss soil, and those criminals then escape to the U.S., then Swiss police authorities can demand that the U.S. hail those criminals and send them to Switzerland to bring them to justice in Swiss courts.

    • @bmabs35
      @bmabs35 2 роки тому +3

      If I remember correctly, some of the deals involved were done through US banks and one of the big players at the time was Chuck Blazer.

  • @Mateo_Rem1ngton
    @Mateo_Rem1ngton 5 місяців тому +2

    People who says 2022 WC was rigged. Just put the fries in the bag bro

    • @deezm4743
      @deezm4743 5 місяців тому

      Just put it on my tip bro

  • @keeneyong6580
    @keeneyong6580 2 роки тому +63

    I don’t watch the World Cup but as far as I know isn’t it supposed to be about sportsmanship and love for the sport? What happened?

    • @lewisphillips573
      @lewisphillips573 2 роки тому +60

      Money

    • @sushantmanandhar1387
      @sushantmanandhar1387 2 роки тому +11

      Mr Krabs: I like money

    • @0maeWaMou
      @0maeWaMou 2 роки тому +9

      Oil happened, oil money.

    • @ropolito1980
      @ropolito1980 2 роки тому +2

      It is for the fans and it might be for the players as well. I am a fan of football and I watch because of the love for the game and my team

    • @TheAmericanAmerican
      @TheAmericanAmerican 2 роки тому +6

      Just capitalism. Maximize those profits at ANY cost!

  • @dreamguest3597
    @dreamguest3597 2 роки тому +20

    Only authoritarian governments are capable of doing such things? I guess 90s Germany was authoritarian then; according to you. It seems to me that this is how FIFA always functioned, and I'm willing to assume that every country in the bid did the same exact thing. Qatar and Russia just outbribed them

    • @samzam85
      @samzam85 2 роки тому +1

      Good point

    • @PaulGuy
      @PaulGuy 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, literally every government/organization is capable of being corrupted. It's just easier with authoritarian regimes, because there's less people making the decisions. It's really just about numbers.

    • @dampaul13
      @dampaul13 2 роки тому +1

      "Only authoritarian governments are capable of doing such things"
      I must have missed when they said "only authoritarian governments."

  • @eliasziad7864
    @eliasziad7864 2 роки тому +18

    Russia hosted the greatest world cup, respect to Russia.

  • @shahaman5694
    @shahaman5694 2 роки тому +27

    So according to your logic World Cup should be organized only in Western countries because western are better than other countries? We have already Euro Cup. And this is a World Cup it has a word “World” in it for a reason and it shouldn’t be a platform for politics

    • @Nippleless_Cage
      @Nippleless_Cage 2 роки тому +2

      Cry more

    • @Sitosa
      @Sitosa 2 роки тому

      @@Nippleless_Cageain’t nobody crying but your weak a**

    • @caetano1998
      @caetano1998 2 роки тому +4

      but it is a platform man... Why do you think political leaders bid for it?

    • @mcspiffington
      @mcspiffington 2 роки тому

      No, not western countries exclusively. Just none authoritarian ones just like mentioned in the video for the reasons stated.

    • @tj-co9go
      @tj-co9go 2 роки тому

      Well, they did say Germany had engaged in corruption as well

  • @KushPatel
    @KushPatel 2 роки тому +8

    Russia and Qatar bribed 3 or 4 members of Exco for their vote. but who and why did the others vote for them? Like Qatar was still an unlikely choice but still got an additional 10 or so other votes

    • @ravikallan6836
      @ravikallan6836 2 роки тому

      Qatar had Mohammed bin Hammam, a former president of the Asian Football Confederation, and former world footballers where ambassadors for the Qatar bid

  • @hydrohasspoken6227
    @hydrohasspoken6227 2 роки тому +15

    It's bad when it is Qatar/Russia hosting it, only because they outbid yah.

  • @blackphoenix114
    @blackphoenix114 2 роки тому +4

    Imagine if this event happened in the U.S it could have been a Big disaster, imagine how many people will be killed by random people open firing in large crowds.

  • @benusfolk
    @benusfolk Рік тому +9

    qatar wc was probably the best

  • @prabhavvenkatesh9247
    @prabhavvenkatesh9247 Рік тому +3

    2022 was best WC ever. Anyone would prefer WC in Qatar and Russia rather than USA .

    • @hus390
      @hus390 Рік тому +1

      It’s not safe in the USA. Let alone Mexico

  • @kingshacklebolt
    @kingshacklebolt 2 роки тому +49

    It’s hard to put into words just how much of a disservice it is, to the billions of football fans around the world, that the sports largest governing body is so incredibly corrupt. It’s a total racket.

  • @Socomhunter
    @Socomhunter 2 роки тому +65

    this is what happens when one organisation has a monopoly on something this lucrative. It's why the super league should've happened. A competing organisation is a must. Now it unfortunately will never happen.

  • @ShajiaSalehSoomro
    @ShajiaSalehSoomro 2 роки тому +21

    Qatar did what it could to win the bid. It basically transformed their country for it. As for the bribes, sure they saw an opportunity and they took it. This isn't on the nations who want to win the bid because even after what Qatar prepared for to win it, some other nation would've bribed and won. So, they took their chance. The issue is FIFA exco corruption. FIFA's internal players is the issue itself.

    • @user_is_sasaxi_lalduhsaxi_O4
      @user_is_sasaxi_lalduhsaxi_O4 2 роки тому

      Sᴏ ʏᴏᴜ'ʀᴇ sᴀʏɪɴɢ Qᴀᴛᴀʀ ᴡᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪᴅ ғᴀɪʀ ᴀɴᴅ sǫᴜᴀʀᴇ. ..😄😄😄😅
      ʙɪᴛᴄʜ ʏᴏᴜ'ʀᴇ ᴀ ᴅɪsɢʀᴀᴄᴇ ᴛᴏ ɪsʟᴀᴍ, ᴍᴀʏ ᴀʟʟᴀʜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴍᴇʀᴄʏ ᴏɴ ʏᴏᴜ.

    • @Filippenzen413
      @Filippenzen413 2 роки тому

      Basically transformed? How many of those changes are still in function today???

    • @eventusvantos8586
      @eventusvantos8586 Рік тому

      ​@nohosopo7774 lots of them eg public transportation stadiums and more

  • @eitanfrankowitz6992
    @eitanfrankowitz6992 2 роки тому +23

    It’s really wrong; yet I imagine that if I was in the same spot as the EXCO members and had a 5 million dollar check sitting right in front of me, I’d think about all the ways the world is unjust, and cash that check. There’s shadiness everywhere, and it’s hard to make it in this world. Sometimes the cards play right into your hands, but more often than not, they don’t. I would have taken it too. Just a thought.

    • @effortmatters6980
      @effortmatters6980 2 роки тому +1

      Nah dude , it’s the principles. Those corrupted EXCO have no proper principles to live the life no matter how unjust the world is. If they are a good man, they wouldn’t bend to that. Not to mention as someone who’s sitting at one of the most powerful positions, the proper principles are more important for them, yet they bent.