So "Pro-Life" That I Think Noah's Flood Was Justified | The Atheist Experience 26.29
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2022
- The Atheist Experience 26.29 for July 17, 2022 with Dave Warnock and Forrest Valkai.
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It really is awful what religion can do to a person’s mind…
Religion is really politics. The Romans knew this when they formed the Roman Catholic Church. It took the lust of one man, Henry the 8th to murder his wife and untold numbers of Catholics all for his own self interest. That is how the Church of England came to be and why those oppressed people fled to the New World. It has little to do with faith it is a bedtime story and a political battle both sides claim god is on their side.
Religion turns people into morons .
Religious beliefs can and do totally shut down, some people’s ability to think critically.
@@fossilfishleg9188 those people actually don't have the ability to think whether they are religious or not , lots of people are born very stupid
What makes you think religion made him wilfully ignorant, a liar, and disingenuous? Some people are born damaged.
Forrest is an atheist national treasure.
The fact remains that NO ATHEIST on the face of this earth has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. All atheists should SHUT UP until they do - INCLUDING shutting down this channel and the rest of atheist channels.
👍👍👍
@@neverendingparty1534
No one has such an explanation for reality. So much is not known at this time. But plugging in "Magic" as an explanation explains nothing and only serves to shut down further inquiry. Theism closes your mind and makes you stupid. So good luck with that.
@@owenritz1224 Magic? It's atheism that desperately clings to "magic" or the IMPOSIBLE: A MINDLESS, PURPOSELESS moist rock coming from NOTHING & ignoring entropy to produce a first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move & reproduce - NOT TO MENTION the DNA blueprints for 10 million DIFFERENT species that evolution comes OUT OF NOWHERE to diversify into the animals on the earth. Yes, it's atheism that desperately needs "magic." You actually believe that IMPOSSIBLE garbage and you can't afford to get this wrong. 100 trillion yrs from now, you'll still be in hell. Oh btw, the DIVINE POWER of God is mentioned throughout the Bible. TRY TO LEARN.
@@owenritz1224
Where did Jimmy (NEPy) go? Did he write something stupid, delete it and run away---as usual?
"Why do you keep focusing on the babies..." - The honest opinion of "pro-life" theists. It was never about the babies.
Yep. The babies are just props to be used in their efforts to tell us all exactly how to live our lives. Which is why you need to keep a foot firmly on the neck of religion. Because they will never stop wanting to control all our lives.
@@Jack908r Never mind religious people, the ones who want to control our lives are the radical left pushing their obsessive woke narrative.
They're even bowing to it on this show. They'll argue that there is no evidence for a God but they'll also make sure they use the correct pronouns the callers wish to go by.
It's lunacy. You want to remove your penis and call yourself a woman? Okay, do whatever helps you cope, just don't insist I call you a woman too, because you're not.
@@cajunking5987 Its not, the whole argument isnt about that. It's about rights, and what one can do to their own body
@@cajunking5987 Nope, pretty much has been about their bodies since the start. Arguing when life begins is arbitrary
@@cajunking5987 Its not the entire argument at all, you also cant get me by twisting it that way either. So yeah, no
Damn, Forrest rebutting all of his claims off the top of his head at the beginning was something else. Well done. He brings something to the show it's never really had before with that.
Forrest always impresses me. Unfortunately, all of the answers went completely over the caller's head and the whole thing went completely off the rails.
Forrest is great
@@MrKyle81 unfortunately, David chiming in kinda gave him the opportunity to move on. I feel whenever evolution comes along, Forrest needs to be the only one talking.
I’m convinced Rob spent the entire time staring at his bible and praying away the knowledge demons.
@@ryanfloch6054 You know, to be honest, the only folk Forrest's arguments matter to are folk who already know about evolution. Folk like Rob are fundie conspiracy theorists programmed to believe "evilutionists" are all liars, and cannot be believed. Dave, on the other hand, took the argument to Rob's notions in order to show up the contradictions in Christianist theology, especially creo theology. I thought both were good ways to attack a creo, by appealing to different interests. I always feel taking the battle to the enemy's ground is a better idea than fighting it on your own, that the enemy doesn't care about..
This guy is literally justifying mass genocide.
Them giraffes wuz all sinners, I tells ya. Coveting all the too-high leaves...
Not all, but most theists try to justify genocide. Dogma is an insane thing
@@johnd.shultz7423 lmao
Evil babies are the worst. Lol
@@johnd.shultz7423 You have a point! Haven't you all seen the "Boss Baby" movies. Those are set in a real city, so they MUST be true! That's what GAAWD was protecting us from! 😁
Theists:
"There are things that science can't explain."
[describes things that science has explained]
"There are parts of evolution that are wrong."
[describes things that are not part of evolution]
"Animals cannot evolve into a different species."
[lives with domesticated animals as pets]
"The Big Bang doesn't make any sense."
[doesn't know what the Big Bang is and refuses to Google it]
"My religious beliefs are based on facts."
[describes personal experiences and emotion-based opinions]
"You can't disprove God."
[agrees that 99.999% of gods are demonstrably fake, just not theirs]
lol Spot on!
You Nailed it.
*Proof of God:*
1. *Entropy:* ALL MATTER (multiverse or not) is contiguous and under the same laws. ALL MATTER goes only in one direction: bad to worse. From GENESIS, 2nd law entropy (LOSING INFORMATION) never stops or slows down. No chemical reaction can stop entropy or slow it down. Example: Your mother & father combining their DNA is a chemical reaction to produce you and ALL THE WHILE they were both STILL DYING. YOUR BODY is also relentlessly dying from conception onward, til your body dies (your eternal soul & spirit) live forever either in hell or heaven):
“... it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” - Hebrews 9:27
The curse of God on Adam & all that Adam ruled over (creation) was cursed w/ entropy (NEVER A GAIN OF INFORMATION). To prove that as a fact, NOTHING of the asinine religious cult of atheism has EVER BEEN OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution). That’s because NONE OF IT exists/can exist.
3. *FINITE vs INFINITE:* Romans 1:20 declares that God is proved by his creation, so I'll prove creation. Can you point to anything that can't be counted, measured & had no beginning or end (INFINITE)? No, you can't. EVERYTHING in this DYING/FINITE universe can be counted, measured & has a beginning and an eventual end. That means it was created; thus, "natural causes" don't exist. Nature can't be the "cause" of anything, because DYING/FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) was created/designed from nothing by God. And ALL MATTER doesn’t do nothing but dissipate over time - LOSING INFORMATION.
4. *THE CAUSE OF THIS DYING/FINITE UNIVERSE:* To produce this universe of LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY, we simply ascertain what RATIONAL POSSIBLE cause has LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY to give and the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to give it. No atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) fits the bill. This SCIENCE points to God and nothing else. God proved/Atheism debunked.
5. *Atheism has no rational explanation:* No atheist on the face of this earth has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. They should SHUT DOWN ALL ATHEIST CHANNELS until they do have a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. The asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS.
*SUMMARY:* The facts above prove the truth (God, Creation, The Bible). It’s time to dump your atheist cult, but you have to want to do it. Atheists desperately cling to the atheist cult out of tragedy or wanting to take the path of least resistance & rebel against their creator for the gift of life given them. They’re stuck in the curse of Adam (arrogant, selfish, rebellion). They simply don’t want to pay the price. They expect “A FREE LUNCH” when life itself teaches you that “THERE’S NO FREE LUNCH!” But we have to pay the price for anything that has value. It’s time you say “yes” to the only real value there is - Jesus. I’ll help you. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t already have all the IMPORTANT answers re reality.
*P.S. -* God’s goal is to reap the best of mankind from the earth, to present to his son that will return his son’s love by their own free will in Heaven for eternity. The best of mankind is called “The Bride of Christ.” We are commanded to "overcome" Satan, the world & the flesh to be in the number that goes to heaven via death or the Rapture of the Church.
Earth is like a boot camp for brides. God the Father is vetting us all for +/- 70 yrs. Our only purpose on earth is to mature enough to Biblically accept or reject Jesus. Only the ones that make it (overcome Satan, the world & the flesh) are fit to present to his son as his loving bride forever.
@@borthwrenblanston6632 "Proof of God:
blah blah blah anti reality rant" - if you are going to speak of reality and science, why don't you learn anything? You don't understand thermodynamics and the 3:rd law is applicable to a closed system. You have to show evidence that the universe and the earth are closed system. Now you are just a Dunning-Kruger poster boi. If you were right, which you obviously are not, cooking food would be impossible.
Add to that « he is pro life, but is good with infanticide and genocide »
My father is a christian, and when the family was touring Carlsbad Caverns, the tour recording, so-to-speak, mentions that explorers found sea fossils in some of the lower reaches of the cave. I said something like, "Wow! That's amazing!". And my father said, 'Yeah, Noah's flood!"
I just started laughing because that sounded like something a five-year-old would think.
how embarrasing for you
I don't think I've ever heard another type of discussion, where someone says in full seriousness "You're focusing too much on all the babies that died !"
Unless you are asking a religious fruitcake, you probably won't hear it again.
I think I lost an IQ point just by listening to that caller talk.
That isnt big deal... couple babies... how cares. How fucked up your mind has to be if you say that kind statement. That is so sad! 🥶
And yet, look at how most religious people today rant and rave over a mass of cells at even 6 weeks gestation being killed in an abortion!
This is the funniest segment 🤣I've ever
seen. "Rob Rob Rob Rob Rob" WHAT DID
THE BABIES DO?!?!
fictitious babies. the bible resurrects all the dead. we all are immortal souls.
Seth Andrews was correct when he said "Christianity made me talk like an idiot".
Oh it's much, much worse than that. It makes millions like this lowlife lemming justify mass slaughter of even the most innocent, and the unborn. Those are the same people who rail and rant against abortion until it's once again illegal.
Religion is also good at finding idiots and encouraging them to talk way more.
I get that Seth says he did not get any more intelligent when leaving religion. but he was intelligent enough to ultimately leave. Rob seems to be far from fulfilling the requirements.
"If that gods real, I'm its enemy" Definitely using that.
Then say it. Say you reject Jesus Christ as your Lord & Savior right now..
@@paulk9188
Way to miss the point.
It’s not Jesus who’s the enemy, it’s his rapist daddy.
@@paulk9188 I reject Jesus Christ as my Lord & Savior. Because he's a myth. He doesn't exist. Even if he once DID exist, we have literally ZERO evidence to suggest he's anyone besides just another man. No historical record of miracles, no godly powers demonstrated or proven since the dark ages.
If there is a 'god' out there, I'd like to think he's a little bit smarter than your holy book makes him out to be. Because multiple times he's shown to be either outsmarted, or just plain uses scorched-earth tactics for dumb reasons. Not a very smart God, but there's a whole lotta vengeance. Either way, not worthy of worship.
@@paulk9188 And you miss the point: The god as described in the bible is an evil, genocidal monster, which just demonstrates that the bible is nothing more than fairy tales. jesus christ is no ones "lord an savior" because whoever he was based on - likely several different itinerant doomsday preachers (they were everywhere in Judea at the time - being crushed under the iron heel of the Roman Empire will do that to a culture) - were just a bunch of regular folks.
Forrest: You know clams don’t always open when they die, right?
Rob’s Brain: * Windows 98 blue screen of death *
"Rob’s Brain: * Windows 98 blue screen of death *"
I have beer coming out my nostrils....
lol
"What was the kangaroo up to that was so wicked that they needed to die" - Forrest
The flood story took place in astrology.
Roo merangue won't cum black.
But, I mean, they didn't.
Somehow, they evolved from middle-eastern animals, after crossing the ocean.
“Of what sin were the gophers guilty?” - Also Forrest.
While frustrating and depressing to listen to, this call was an excellent example of "this is your brain on religion". May theists continue to call into shows like AXP to demonstrate the dangers of the slippery slope between religious thinking and conspiracy thinking, and many thanks to Rob for serving as an excellent warning to others.
Amen
*By HIS OWN WORDS that things were GIGANTIC 'back then', this guy makes the case for the stupid Noah's Ark EVEN WORSE!*
And that's not including how on earth did Noah and his incest family were able to feed them all to survive the flooding. Some be preds, too.
@@romankvapil9184 yeah of course, I guess the only answer is........ *MAGIC*
@@raccoon874 or pokeballs
In the game Ark there are devices that are functionally equivalent to pokeballs. Coincidence? No, it's evidence of God.
Rob is your classic theist, even when his claim is easily debunked, he just ignores it and continues on with the claim, like when Forrest points out that clams don't necessarily open when they die. But Rob just keeps going with this assertion that closed clams mean they were alive when landing on top of a mountain from rising flood waters.
Quite apart from the fact that a flood 30,000 ft deep is a lot of water. Where did it all drain away to?
Not to mention the fact that if clams are found on _top of Mt. Everest,_ how in god's name did they get there from the bottom of the sea during a flood??? Many species of clam are pretty firmly rooted to the seabed, they don't float, and can survive major storm and flooding events while staying in the same place! The only way of getting clams to a mountain top is to either carry them there, or let natural forces raise the seabed!!! God, creos are such ignorant nincompoops.
To be fair this is something we all do. When we are absolutely convinced something is true, rarely do we change our minds on the spot.
Monke brain no likey change too fast. Hurt head, and chimp pride too strong. 🐒
Rob, however, has a very special chimp brain.
@@alfresco8442 Also from where did the water originate?
@@PaulDormody According to the Bibble it fell from the sky (which would have turned all the oceans brackish and killed all the salt water species. But there were also the fountains of the deep. If these waters were at any real depth (as they would need to be) then just like Old Faithful, they would turn to superheated steam and blow the whole friggin earth's crust into outer space.
When I heard the word "dinosaur" leave his mouth I lost it laughing. Then I heard "we were basically in a dome" and I burst a few blood vessels. Thanks for the laugh Rob, that was hilarious 🤣🤣. Those goddamned evil giraffes have some serious explaining to do.
Them giraffes got some (laryngeal) nerve.
Tbh I give him some credit for originality. I've never heard someone say we live in a dome and mention cosmic rays on the same breath before.
@@matiasbascunan8051 I actually recognize this argument from decades ago. Someone in my Sunday school, when I was a kid in the 90s trotted out an Evidence for the Global Flood book and one of the things it postulated was an atmosphere super-saturated with moisture, thus A: the source of the water of the Flood and B: the stuff this guy said about blocking sun rays and things growing large.
Don't remember any temporary dome in that book , where did Rob pull that one from.
Well I am away to stick my penis in an oxygen tank before hitting the town over the weekend.
As a Canadian, we apologize for Rob. We have them too.
Everyone has, a lot of them. They're legions.
yea as a fellow Canadian this was the cringiest thing I've watched in awhile Rob do us all a favour and don't tell people your Canadian
I'm genuinely disappointed! Is there anyway you could 'export' him to the US? I'm sure he'd be happier down south!
I am truly pissed we have people like Rob in Canada. I thought they died out in the last ice age.
Well, we all do one way or another.
Rob is the perfect example of a quote Steven Weinberg - 'With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.'
but some bad people can behave for fear of god, or you know go bad shit crazy and do eviler things. also bad people can make good people go bad too.
maybe religion have smaller role in our success now as a species. But I wonder what would it be if there's no religion, we dream of a future instead of afterlife.
@@darkira2129 and that is the point, instead of doing good deeds in preparation for a "after life" , do the good deeds as if there is no personal reward, but as a way of making this life better for all. As far as I am concern, there is one truism of religions and spiritual systems, " Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". To me that is all that is needed to live a good life and when you close your eyes for the last time, you will do so knowing you did everything in the only life you have to make world a better place.
I always found it puzzling that a god so omniscient that he'd just got through creating an entire universe by willpower alone, couldn't have merely willed these evildoers to death instead of trashing an entire planet.
He could have NOT willed them into existence in the first place and by doing so demonstrate that he was aware that he was mistakenly creating future unworthy humans and would repenteth himself for doing so.
If you know what I mean 😉
Well he was probably bored so created his own horror movie; I suppose even sadistic gods must get their entertainment somehow
And - this omniscient god didn’t know it was all for naught because the humans he handpicked to survive went right back to being bad as soon as the the flood was over.
That’s some piss poor god planning right there.
The more you study the God of the Bible, the more obvious it becomes that he is clearly the invention of man.
He has all the characteristics and emotions of men but is just more powerful.
@@grahvis "He's" a self righteous "moralistic" monster created out of the dark, buried parts of the primitively superstitious human subconscious....
It’s amazing that so many theists call in repeating the same old creationist ideas that have been debunked for DECADES now.
This happens when one lacks proper/public education. One ignorant generation breathes another and the cycle continues.
I think it's a sign of how little they think about anything.
Literally every week.... they never learn.
Well, luckily some do thanks to the show. But people like Rob..... speechless
@Irrational Darkins Don't know where you're getting your evolution info, but evolution doesn't attempt to explain origins of life, only changes in organisms over time.
@Irrational Darkins It's not from mud and dust. You'd know if you weren't such an irrational troll. Have a bad day.
One thing I bring up whenever someone cites the " there are marine fossils on top of the Andes mountains " argument against evolution is that fossils they find are from species that have been extinct for sometimes million of years.
When I was in elementary school I found clams in the dirt. This intrigued me greatly. I assumed, at the time, that the sea had covered the area in the distant past.
I was seven at the time so I did not look further into if. But even then, I did not think a worldwide flood had taken place. I assumed this area had been part of the sea floor.
It's almost like they just listen/read less than half a page, close the article and throw it over their shoulder and say, "Welp, that confirms it! I'm a genius!"
Unfortunately, the fact that the fossils on Mt Everest are millions of years old probably isn't going to persuade someone who thinks the world is roughly six thousand years old. That sort of inconvenient fact is usually ignored.
Not to mention that most clams are pretty firmly stuck to the seabed, and don't move during storms or flooding events. The only way of getting them to a mountaintop is either in your pocket, or wait for nature to turn a seabed into a mountaintop.
@@Nocturnalux she sells sea shells of the sea floor.
I weep for the human race listening to all this anti-science positions that Rob just spewed out
@@adamlangton1967 Correct. I live in Australia and I never hear anyone talk about this nonsense. It just seems to be an American thing.
@@Anonymous-md2qp America may have more of it, but it's not just America. Ray Comfort is from New Zealand.
@@Anonymous-md2qp Australia just became atheist majority and teaching Christianity in primary schools was banned so hopefully we’ll see even less of it going forward. 😊
@@kaiza6467 Amazing. :)
"Science" has NOTHING to do w/ the asinine lies of atheism (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution). NONE OF IT IS OBSERVED IN REAL TIME; THUS, THERE'S NO SUCH POSSIBILITY OF APPLYING THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD TO ANY OF IT. Try to learn what I'm teaching you.
"Fuck your God rob" lmao I love it.
As a person who was diagnosed with a terminal illness 20 years ago before I became the first person to survive that rare leukaemia, I would rush along a lagging conversation partner by telling them “I’m dying here and don’t have time for your nonsense. Get to the point.”
Wonderful that you survived !
I spit out my drink laughing when Aron Ra was talking on one of his videos about how Noah's Ark only had one window in it, so the 8 people would have died immediately from the methane gas from the animals farting and pooping!!!
Ra is always wrong. In Genesis six, there was an opening between the top of the wall of the ark and the roof, that was about 18 inches, and this gap extended around the top of the whole ark.
@@borthwrenblanston6632 🥱
It's really amazing how the whole Noah's ark story immediately falls apart when trying to apply it to real world logic.
@@blarglemantheskeptic You just don't get it. God doesn't NEED anything. He could of kept the entire ark sealed like a sardine can, if he wanted. God can DO ANYTHING. Try to learn.
@@borthwrenblanston6632 Unfortunately for you, there are three floor levels to the ark and only one window on the top floor. You can try to make the window as big as you want. If you want to live on a ship with all those animals pooping and farting for a year and have only 8 people to take care of them with no air conditioning and still think it was a blessing if you actually get off the boat to find an entire world destroyed by a God who supposedly loves his creation... be God's guest!!! I don't know anybody who is that cruel to people and animals! Thankfully, there is no good evidence that the Bible is true and plenty of evidence it can't be.
The extreme level of wilful ignorance and pure "making shit up" is absolutely outstanding. Rob is thoroughly and totally deluded.
Rob doesn't think DNA is real. Rob thinks koala's rode on the back of a kangaroo all the way from Australia just to get on a wooden boat. Rob is smart.
That koala's smarter than him too, if he did that. 🤣🤣🤣
Rob also believe that 2 lions, and 2 zebras lived together for 40 days with nothing to eat.
_Hehe_ *Hilarious!*
@@i_am_aladeen You end up with 2 lions, several lion cubs and no zebras.
" koala's rode on the back of a kangaroo all the way from Australia"
No one could be that dumb...
They rode in the Kangaroo's pouch... Everyone knows that.... lol
Noah's flood debunked:
1... Why were civilizations around the world that existed before the supposed global flood not impacted by it and have no records of a flood...
2... How did Koala bears and Polar bears, Anteaters and Sloths get to and from their home lands...
3... Where was all the tons of food kept on the Ark...?
4... How did a crew of 8 steer a ship all that time?
5... It floated basically a year on the sea, yet it supposedly came to rest only a few miles away ?
6... How is it that there's no ruins of flooded cities and so forth all around the world dating to the exact same time?
7... How did the fresh water fish survive the salt water...
8... How did the animals survive when there was no food for them anywhere on the world after the flood killed all things including grass, plants trees and the game animals they lived on?
9... How did Noah build an Ark out of wood when the first parts would have rotted away by the time he could get to the last parts?
10. Where did Noah keep termites on a wooden Ark?
11. So, out of the 8 people on the Ark, where did oriental and black people come from? Remember, any answer to that involving changes proves evolution...
12. Why did everyone not die out from the incestuous genetic choke point that would have introduced too many defects for the race to survive... (See #12 again)
13. Same with all animals...
14. How did Noah pay for all the food for all the Wood, the animals, the animal food, the nails, food for the crew?
15. Where did the water come from?
16. Where did the water go?
17. How did Noah know how to build a boat in regard to steering, ballast, toilets, bilges etc, when he had no experience...?
18. Why didn't ship building expertise improve AFTER the Ark? But instead was limited for many more hundreds of years ?
19. At a depth, sufficient to flood the highest mountains the air would be so thin that no one on the Ark would have been able to survive, same as on top of Mt Everest now.
20. After saving the sloths, Polar bears, Lynx, Anteaters etc, why did no one know of the America's or Australia etc, afterwards... ?
21. Have you ever tried to carve a plank out of a tree trunk using modern tools? Think how long it would take with simple bronze age or copper axes and no power tools. Then think about how many planks it would take to build a boat that size with only a handful of people building it.
Regarding the boat, as an engineer, and considering how efficiency have developed during our history, it would take Noah + family 1,250,000 years to build the boat.
I think Noah’s Ark is a minor problem compared to your insane notion that a rock produced the human being.
Noah’s Ark has been proven: Paul Abramson is the flood expert and says there are over 300 legends regarding the flood and over 254 different nations profess the story of the Worldwide Flood. There were no fish or insects & only 8,000 kinds of baby animals on the ark and in the world today (kinds and not species).
It took 120 yrs to build a boat just to float a little while over a LOCAL flood? No. The flood was WORLDWIDE. Fossils are found on every continent. Fossils only form by flood and there are trillions of them. Fossils are formed RAPIDLY, which is why we know the worldwide flood of Noah formed them. Keep in mind that there are no human records older than the time of the flood of 4400 yrs ago.
God is amazing 🙂
@@freddan6fly How large were Noah & his sons? How much did God help them? It took them 100 yrs to build the ark - having to put up w/ the mocking, just as I'm having to put up w/ your mocking. I promise you'll shut up, just like when the mockers back then shut up when God shut the Ark doors. NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE w/ God:
“I am the LORD, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me?" - Jeremiah 32:27
@@freddan6fly You're a mere man..Noah had God supervising
“Idiocracy” truly was a documentary. We’re doomed. Nonetheless, Forrest is my hero.
Don't worry scro.
Noah's Wife: "Noah,Noah?"
There's someone here from city planning."
Noah: "What, Okay..., What can I do for you..."
Official: "Well, he says looking at his clipboard, It's about your boat..."
Noah: "What's wrong with it...?"
Official: "It doesn't meet the building code. Why are there holes in the bottom..?"
Noah: "To let any extra water out silly!"
Official: "You've never built a boat before have you..?"
Noah: "No, of course not, we're in a f**king desert, I've never even seen a boat before..."
Official:" Well, how do you know how to build it and how big? "
Noah: "I have an old Bill Cosby album. We spin it on a stick and use the very sharp tip of a unicorn horn to hear it..."
Official: "How did you get the horn from the unicorn. "
Noah: "Oh, well we had to kill it..."
Official: "Is that why you have two of every animal, but only one unicorn?"
Noah: "Yes. We have two of each so they can breed when the boat settles again... Oh, damn, forgot about that part when I was getting the horn...
Well, no one will miss the unicorns..."
Official: "So when are you expecting the flood? "
Noah: "Oh, about 80 years give or take, depending on how long it takes for all the animals to get here."
Official: "Will it really take that long for the sloths and Kangaroos, to get here?"
Noah: "The what?"
You PERSONALLY rejected and degraded the Bible as a worthless and useless book, no value whatsoever in your life and existence, so, just curious, why do you have to talk and argue with others about what were written in a worthless and useless Bible?
If you degraded and rejected the Bible as just a book of LIES, deceits, myths, fictions, and fairy tales, then, why do you have to talk about fictional characters, events, and places?
What for?
Brilliant 👍
I can’t imagine being such a simpleton you think magic answers all questions.
In the beginning, answering the first three questions the caller raised, Forrest demonstrated his ability to listen and remember what was asked of him. Then he demonstrated his abilities as an educator, describing the most cogent points to his answers: then he showed his broad knowledge on the many factors, including variations in geology, which attend the theory of evolution. Quite a demonstration of just how brilliant he is. Super impressive.
There was a lot of evil in the world so god had to distroy it. Didn't god create the world and the evil? Or did he not have any control over his creation?
There's also the fact that "God created man in his own image" in the Bible. This implies that he also created heinous human beings that are nothing but a complete detriment to society as well. Meaning he's responsible for the monstrous humans and criminals we are stuck to deal with. These people can't have their cake, and eat it, too.
Apparently God can't influence anyone in any choice of good or evil, because "free will".
And if he doesn't create lots of evil, they won't be able to make those choices. And it seems he really likes people to make those choices, as he created lots and lots of evil.
Someone needs to get God a Netflix subscription or something to keep him entertained in a less damaging direction.
„The flood“ was most likely a local flood observed by a tribe or something. The story was told over generations and every time the flood got bigger. Until it became another fantasy story collected in the Bible.
There's a quote from some famous person that fits this situation aptly.
"Science lead us to land on the moon. Religion lead us to have planes fly into buildings".
Science flies men to the moon. (And back.)
Religion flies men into buildings.
Thank you, I will have this corrected.
@@romankvapil9184 No worries. Mine is more pithy. Yours has more nuance, but it struggles a bit. Cheers, mate.
All those babies were dealing black jack!!! - Flipping CLASSIC! Gentlemen the two of you are some of the best we've seen. Cheers and may you continue to inspire us all.
"Fuck your god Rob." sums it up quite nicely XD
WOW!!!!! That caller is your Brain on Religion.
More proof that NOTHING has set Mankind back more than belief in gods.
This guy is amazing.
Sometimes I feel like a real idiot, but then he can make me feel like a genius just by being so stupid 😁😂
I love ow dave redirected his creationist rambling to a totally different but much more relevant topic...
"Sometimes I feel like a real idiot, but then he can make me feel like a genius just by being so stupid"
So very true...
I'm a guy that admits that I not only not know everything, but is certainly dumb on certain subjects and willing to learn to be better from it when listening to experts on the subject.
This guy would likely try to put the experts to the burning stake for accusing them of witchcraft and heresy because it hurts his feelings if we didn't outlaw such acts.
Decompression chambers makes things grow bigger? How come we do not see 20ft divers? Blinded by Jebus and luvin it.
@@colinsixhitter3303 when you combine two unrelated facts everything is possible...
His idea reads like a bad science fiction novel idea
I love how Forrest has a resting happy face.
When religion turnes your mind into a jelly.
"This is a lot of clams." Something about this line is making me laugh.
Whole lotta clams. 😂
Tried the Klam Notsological Argument.
Clam Coster Lobsterclaw Arkument.
When a christian apologizer starts with, "You've got to understand..." it's unlikely to end well for them. [9:30]
just about to completely retranslate
After listening to Rob, I now have several thousand less brain cells.
Yeh but poor Rob only has one,,,, and the whole family share it!
Smoke crack instead. Each puff kills the same number of brain cells but at least you’re high for 20 minutes.
It's good that Forrest's explanations spurred the growth of a few thousand more 😊
That's still several trillion more than Rob.
@@hellohandsome9875 ROFL.
What’s scary is there are literally billions more out there just like him.
That's really scary
Well not quite like that
@@nagranoth_ close enough
Dave, I think you're beating the ALS because you seem to have more energy now than when you first came on the show!
Forest, you are brilliant.
‘What did the giraffes do that was so bad?’ Lol well said Forrest .... the state of education in north america must be terrifying, this was painful to listen to
This is verbatim Kent Hovind recitation looool
Kent Hovind, the Poster boy for low IQ's everywhere....
Yep. I personally asked him why there’s no a single mention of the “flood” in any kind of world history amongst all nations. Why don’t we see the whole of China with water damage, and complete devastation? Who rediscovered China and what did they think of this destroyed civilization.
He gave the exact same answer. That everything is a lie unless he says so.
I'm just waiting for geologists to a discover a distinct layer of evil that was laid down when the earth was so saturated in evil .....
LOFL dude!
Evil, in bible speak, is the period when darkness (evil) is stronger than light (good). The shit begins at the autumn equinox and ends at the spring equinox. Then good takes over as light greater than darkness.
@@harveywabbit9541 so people are being murdered for sunshine
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So day is good and night is evil? Some real 21st century thinking there!
@@MrMarcusIndia
That's the Buybull for you.
I now really want to see a sim of the ancient history of geography in up-close detail and sped up so that the whole thing is feature movie length. Continents flipping and mountains rising in ten seconds or so. That would be a great show. Thanks for the idea, Forrest.
The naked Noah (earth shorn of it's harvest) was covered with snow (the blanket of Shem/winter) it melted and flooded Noah, then came spring and Japheth cover ed Noah with a blanket of green grass. This made the lamb of god very happy as he was recently weaned.
Aaron Ra is working on this movie.
@@harveywabbit9541 I think I remember text like this from the Striker/Spriggan manga where they found out the Ark was a terraforming / bio processing machine abandoned aeons ago and now running wild.
Roughly translated flowery language describing part of it and it's subordinate functions iirc.
They found dinosaurs in it that seemed to be abandoned experiments.
Made more sense than the real story at least.
@@Virtualblueart
Noah's ark consists of five constellations and is the same as Goliath of Gath. It is also the five months that can harm man (Book of Rev). The real ark/arc is the five constellations of Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces. The same five were called Sodomites.
He's apparently talking about Carl Baugh, who has "doctorates" from unaccredited "universities" and the reality is that there is no evidence he even finished high school. He's made a variety of bonkers claims and did start a "museum."
Yep, I believe you are correct. And I suspect much of what Bob said is stuff he found in Carl's creation evidence "museum".
It's depressing that he is successful in running a business on the basis that he does.
Is he similar to Ken Hamm?
Those babies had it coming.
that'll teach 'em
Funny fact: in the original flood story (not the Bible) the reason for the flood was that god was pissed because the humans were making so much noise.
@@scambammer6102 Can't blame them at that point. They should have shut the bell up.
@@scambammer6102 That's hilarious! 😆
@@scambammer6102 Woulda been nice n quiet after the rain (and drowning) stopped.
Not sure why creationists always think sea fossils found on top of a mountain proves a flood. Mountains are thousands of feet high, even if there were a flood how the heck did the clam make it to the top of a mountain in a year or so. Clams don't swim, creationist must know this!
"Clams don't swim, creationist must know this!"
LOL
Yeah, but it's not something most people think about... Even I had forgotten that....
None of those things have anything to do with evolution.
"We are talking about a lot of clams."
Yes Rob. One might say millions of years worth.
I like the way that they managed to swim up the height of Everest. Almost 9,000 metres. Plus the depth of the sea from which it came as well I suppose.
Always "cite your fekkin' sources" It gets them every time. A classic, gentlemen. Thank you both !!
Love you Dave! Glad to see you on the show. Seriously so awesome to have you on, always a special day when I get to watch you.
I love Dave.
Forrest is a true academic and I appreciate he can articulate himself so fluently even in the face of biblical stupidity
As a Canadian, I apologize for Rob. Most Canadians are not as ignorant as he is. Please forgive him - likely his parents indoctrinated him into a church. My ardent hope is this religious child abuse will stop within my lifetime.
Why is there a direct hotline between the Atheist Experience and EVERY insane asylum in the world?
"Are we not entertained?"
(Jesus is walking down a goat trail towards the Roman road in the distance.. )
Passing stranger: " esus" (There was no "J" back then...)
Passing stranger: "Where are you going?"
Jesus: (Shakes a cloth bag, it rattles)
Jesus: I'm taking these to the tops of mountains to convince people in the future about Noah's flood...
Passing stranger: "Noah's flood? When was that and who the heck was Noah?"
Jesus: "Long story, it was going to be epic, but we found that it's easier to just pretend it happened and drop these clams on mountains instead."
(Opens the bag to shows the clams to the stranger)
Passing Stranger: "Why are they tied shut...? And where did you get them?"
Jesus: "Keeps them from opening, and they smell funny. This guy Peter gets them for me."
Passing Stranger: "You should make sure to remove the cords."
Jesus: "Good plan, I'll remember to do that..."
Passing Stranger: "Hey, dude, Ummm Can I buy a couple?"
Jesus: "Well, okay how many?"
Passing Stranger: "Ummm All of them?"
Jesus: "Oh God, not again... "
I'm sure you have missed your calling. Or maybe not? 😁
DAVE! That was an epic question my man! Dave and Forrest are a great combination. I really enjoyed them together, more please.
"3 things don't make sense to me, therefore Christianity" is a an argument that makes my head hurt. Kudos to Forrest for not banging his head on the table. Incredibly patient.
I mean Forrest is like literally the jack of all trades and then some, because he knows so much about so many different subjects. Definitely in top 3 of my favourite hosts. I mean u gotta love him (figuratively not literally) to be able to give such knowledgable and concise answers to things that he knows about and he is definitely not shy to say I don’t know when he doesn’t know. Bravo sir bravo.
He was spouting Kent Hovind talking points🤣
100%. I picked it from the first sentence. Every single thing he said was straight from the Kent Hovind book of
"Stupidity from a conman felon
(how to fleece money from Stupid people)".
Big dinosaurs are the ones who attract visitors at museums so most museums want big dinosaurs. There were tiny dinosaurs, tiny mammles, birds and bugs in the days of dinosaurs.
A Lot of them in fact. I love dinos :)
"But you don't understand! There was so much evil back then that the giraffes were robbing the kangaroos at gunpoint, so God had to get rid of them all!"
Seriously though, I find it weird that when I was a Christian, while I _did_ question whether or not the flood happened, I forgot to question, "why were the animals and babies evil?"
One of my favorite UA-cam contributors is Dr. Nick Zentner. He teaches Geology at Central Washington University. He does these amazing lectures. Unusual geological strata is easily explained if you watch just a few of his videos. Warning, you could get hooked on them. They are fascinating. He explains how rock formations at altitudes of 7,000 feet in Montana have fossils and rock strata that match formations in Australia. They are not only a perfect match chemically, but in fossils found in both locations. How the Columbia River took other paths that are now thousands of feet higher.
Subduction leads to volcanoes and uplift. Tectonic plates dive under other plates. This changes the angles of the strata. The earth's crust will fold like an accordion.
Nick is awesome.
None of that matters if you desperately want to believe in fairy tales.
Thank you, Dave and Forrest!
I used to breed freshwater clams like 8 years ago and some definitely do NOT open when they die. And also many species burrow into the ground underwater. Not even slightly out of the ordinary
His counter argument is "but there were a lot of them". So that proves that. Not.
I seem to remember that after cooking shellfish, you should not eat any that didn't open during the cooking as it meant they were already dead.
*anyone who buys 'live' clams or mussels has read the directions on the mesh bag: "if there are unopened shells after cooking, discard them"*
I have a question for the caller. How long have you been out of your mind?
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This is a really positive call!! It is one of those exchanges that allows one of the hypocristians to put their ignorance and hypocrisy on full public display, and there will be a few doubters who see this and take the final step of abandoning all belief in the god of the bible. A great result for the AXP.
Info from the BIBLE -
The Creator is the Most High and the loving, kind, and merciful God of the Christ and TRUTHFUL, ,kind and loving persons.
Satan the Devil is a liar, slanderer, deceiver, cruel and hateful God of the anti-Christs and of LIARS, slanderers, deceivers, cruel, and hateful persons.
Who is this God of the Bible you're mentioning? -
The Creator, the God of the Christ?
OR
Satan the Devil, the God of the anti-Christs?
Make it clear for me so I can understand your position and statements.
@@jaflenbond7854 I am talking about the one who is called "the Lord" in the bible. You know?? The one who *LIED* to Eve in the garden! The one who killed babies for fun, condoned slavery, arranged for human sacrifice, shredded 42 boys for being cheeky to an old man, etc etc
@@holgerlubotzki3469 Well, it's obvious that you are NOT a worshipper of the Creator, the God of the Christ.
TRUTHFUL, kind, and loving persons are worshippers of the Creator and believers too of the authority and teachings of the Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead".
Satan the Devil is the God of the anti-Christs and of LIARS, cruel, and hateful persons.
All fanatics of all religions in the world are worshippers of Satan the Devil and believers too of the authority and teachings of their anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders about "Trinity", "Immortality of the souls or heaven and hellfire", "Armageddon", "rapture", "reincarnation", etc.
@@holgerlubotzki3469 God did NONE of that.
@@borthwrenblanston6632 Thanks for the confirmation that *NOTHING* written in the bible is true or correct. That includes the existence of the tribal war god of Abraham.
Go back to school Rob.
what makes you think he ever went to one?
Rob has never steamed clams, in every dozen or so one or two don't open but they surely are dead
I think the cosmic rays are still getting through to this guy🤪🤪🤣🤣
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11:17 lmfao 😂That's the equivalent of Patrick Star coming up with the idea to push Bikini Bottom somewhere else to save it from the Alaskan bull worm 🤣
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I’d love to hear Darth call in when Forrest is hosting
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When this question comes up about the flood because evil and all that, please simply ask the question: “What is more evil - now, then or ever - than suffocating a child?”
I was shattered to find out Forrest lives in Oklahoma... poor guy...
OOOh, I get it, so if clams were the end result of Noah's Flood and they are fossilized, then where are human bones millions of fossilized human bones (6000 years is not enough to fossilize anything).
They already don't understand science. Next we will have to explain why Humans survived the meteor that killed the Dinosaurs.
wow - the earth is 6000 years old, crazy an adult can believe this nonsense
I think that's the problem, they're not adult in this sense. . Still stuck in father christmas syndrome, never grew up, stopped learning.
" the earth is 6000 years old"
I've been to places older than 6,000 years
It is amazing, the creativity and confidence, of those who are not constrained by evidence or even reality.
One of my favorite arguments against Christianity is they believe in a perfect being that makes no mistakes, and then he created a flood to wipe out all these people he created because he made a mistake.
I'm pretty sure if God wanted he could've Thanos snapped just the bad guys away.
Or just not make flawed creatures who he would have known ahead of time would disobey him (yet he still gets angry when they do) and cause him to tantrum and kill almost all of them.
Don’t clams live on the bottom ? Even in a worldwide flood .. how’d they swim up to the top of Mt Everest?
Same way a clam gets to Carnegie Hall. Moxy. Determination. Practice.
Or hitch a ride on a goat.
And there was never anymore wickedness or evil on Earth again. Hell of a job Godie. "God is not a man that he should lie, nor a son of man that he should repent."-Numbers 23:19
Rob 'i've read one book and now i understand everything' 😂😂
Hearing that one of these guys in from Oklahoma makes me feel better about living here myself…knowing that there are rational people calling out these 🤡’s…thank you for restoring my faith (pun intended) in the citizens of Oklahoma…there ARE rational peeps living amongst these ludicrous bible thumpers 😍
Hi from Arkansas
God before the flood (Probably) "Man, look at all these evil, sinful creatures I made. I just...I am so ashamed that I made them. They're so disgusting. What could I do with them? Well, I could just 'Thanos Snap' them, which is a reference I know because of my all knowing self. Hell, I could probably do anything else since I am indeed all knowing, all powerful and all loving. Wow. I might not have to kill them all since I am so loving. Well...I guess I'll drown everyone. Well... That Noah guy is kinda cool I guess. Suppose I should keep his wife and kids and such for him. Yeah... It's the only way I guess. Well, now that the flood is going on... Guess I'll take a nap. Killing everybody, save for 8 people really wears a God out"
That is a good point I love bringing up as well. "Isn't this god of yours all powerful and such, and also made man your own image, couldn't he just obliterate them without a thought, or not have done so in the first place if he's omniscient?" The second that they say no, immediately leads to either this god's a monster and incompetent, or he doesn't exist.
Also, have them play out the veil of ignorance experiment and watch how quickly they deviate from the Christian ideology for selfish reasons.
Don't forget that God is omniscient and so knew exactly what would happen right from the start when he created Adam and Eve.
@@romankvapil9184 Apparently god grew a bigger heart and used a much more humane way when killing all the first born in Egypt.
@@romankvapil9184 how could a perfect being create something imperfect in the first place? Why would an all knowing god create anything that he would know ahead of time would disobey him and he would then have to kill almost all of them? It's all utter nonsense, isn't it?
Great team. Ty fellas
Herpetologist here, Rob is immensely wrong about what happens with Reptiles under those atmospheric conditions. Which is why there was megafauna reptiles during and after the dinosaurs. They died off in great numbers because of climate changes that made it too cold to stay that size because the energy required to maintain an ecothermic body of that size just couldn't be sustained in the climate.
Nowadays reptiles can still get large, but it's a lot harder, because of a number of reasons but mainly because of habitat degradation & because humans as a species tend to kill reptiles either for skin, fear, or inconvenience. Look at crocodiles seldom do they reach the largest they can get, because often times people kill them out of fear or to have the skin for bags, belts etc. There is also other limiting factors such as resource barriers, in order to get large you need an abundance of food,, and a consistency to that. But also, really there's no need for any extant species to grow larger, nothing is favoring that anymore. And maintaining larger bodies means acquiring more energy, so remaining small is advantageous.
Or in short, it was made painfully clear Rob is not as knowledgeable in science as he thinks he is, and he overlooks and overthinks the simplest things.
The fossils on mountain tops, tectonics easily explains that. Clamshells not being open, it could easily be the case that he is biasing the opinion predicated on extant clam behaviors. It could easily be the case that the specific species found there did not open when they died, and this was a development of later species. Everytime Rob calls in he offers the weakest arguments that fall apart if you actually do any legitimate scientific research into it at even a cursory level. And certainly nothing that is a knockdown argument. And I've noticed everything he has presented in the 3 calls I've heard of him are based on weak research and conclusions, and even weaker by the fact that even if what he presented were accurate to his claims, don't prove God and don't prove the specific theological conclusions are the explanation.
Forrest is my spirit animal. 😆
So the missing piece of evidence for Noah's flood was a closed clam shell on the top of a mountain?!?! Well, kiss my grits cause I'm a theist now!
People like this caller are all over the nation. They are dangerous people.
"Your god drowned all pregnant women, babies and children"
Rob: "Let's talk dinosaurs!"
What did the giraffe do..?
The giraffe had a particular set of skills.
“It looks like that to me” … peak Dunning Kruger
This is the best thumbnail ever
I would love to hear how they think the world gained and lost something like 3-5 times the water on this planet in the spann of a year or two.
Ah. Another shallow-thinking atheist. Explain God and how GOD DID IT? God does miracles. He's not limited by his creation; his creation is limited by him. Try to learn.
" lost something like 3-5 times the water on this planet "
In reality it would probably be closer to 10-20 times the water...
Deep places in the ocean are few and far between... Whereas most land is just a little above sea level, so to cover the highest mountain tops means most of the larger land areas would have had to flood to depths approaching those of the very few deepest places now...
In today's world, if all the ice melted, the oceans would rise by about 230 feet (70 meters).
So, technically, it _could_ happen.
That said, it wouldn't happen in a year or two.
That would require the actions of a god, which I don't believe in.
Just pointing out that the water is here.
@@t800fantasm2 I was using the numbers I knew of but you could be right. Point is the idea the world gained and lost that much water needs to be answered by those who believe this happened.
@@i_am_aladeen The loss of a few places isn't the world. To be sure the loss of the ice caps would be a nightmare to deal with but even if that were to happen nobody would need an ark to house everything living. We've just have more wild animals entering our towns and cities.