Between Austin dying of a cold and Billy getting killed by a bear, I feel like the banker dude would have just spent your entire budget on something stupid like trail bikes if you had recruited him.
Banker if brutal moose chose him: sorry but I’m actually an outlaw so long thine sucker! *a pice of splash text on the screen said an imposter stole all of your money *
austin billings never having been sick, then dying from a cold actually make sense, if he'd grown up really sheltered and never gotten sick his immune system wouldn't be used to fighting stuff off , combine that with foreign allergens and bacteria, and you've got a bad time right there.
@@michaldanek7734 Your immune system has been trained with vaccines. (lets not get into the fact that reality is not pretty and its fucking complicated the issue around vaccines) thats why you can survive the common cold better then your ancestors. You have essentially "leveled up" your immune system.
I mean this more genuinely and less snarky than it sounds, but what are the chances a Black man in 19th-century America would have had the chance to grow up sheltered?
@@haroldsparrow881 It's really not complicated, people are just paranoid and listening to conspiracy theories about vaccinations because they want to protect their kids and for some reason think the government is trying to kill them, and in their paranoia they trust the few resources that agree with their already established points of view instead of the ones that are actually accurate, and thusly don't vaccinate their children in an attempt to keep them safe that is actually making them and those around them worse off.
@@janeeyre1990 I'm guessing he was born and raised his entire life in one place...? Like, maybe the common cold wouldn't have gotten to him, but some other bacteria/virus could have.
It gets kind of dark if you take Sally and Jeff. In one of my games Jeff was killed instantly by an accidental gunshot, but in Sally's FMV scenes she still acted as if he was alive. I figure she just went nuts.
I know this comment was posted forever ago, but if this game makes you uncomfortable, then you'd find The Harvester downright disturbing! It's this game pretty much dedicated to FMV gore. I only got about thirty minutes in, because I found it too discomforting, pffft.
I am someone you don't know how the hell do you die from a cold? Even without the advances in medicine a cold is the easiest thing to treat, plenty of sleep, plenty to drink and you'll be fine
well take for example, there are two elderly people in the game their conditions start off as very good, while the younger people start off in excellent condition. now say you are traveling with one of the older people, there are times that if they catch a cold it could develop into Pneumonia, and if you picked Edward or Fabiola and either of them caught it, game over.
And another with a passive ability to just repair broken axels and wheels every time they break, a healer for your actual wagon. That was a farmer as I recall.
When my middle school history teacher taught us about the Donner party, he asked us what we thought would happen to them and I jokingly answered “cannibalism”. We learned what happened the next day and I never thought I’d ever be correct about cannibals
So, the person who's never gotten sick dies of illness and the guy who has wrestled just about every animal dies from being mauled by a bear......... oh, the irony!
I just assumed you died on the trip and now this place is purgatory and the 'ghost' man is just someone who died as well probably from the extreme amount of bears out in the wild.
In the first Oregon Trail game you could write epithets on the tombstones of deceased party members, and anyone playing or even playing a copy of that original, could stumble across and read the tombstones of other parties. I had a copy of my pal Dominick family’s version, my little brother was playing with my mom and they came across a grave of “Holly,” (Dominick’s mom’s name,) whose epithet read; “She gave one helluva blow job.” It was a neighborhood scandal as rips had been passed out to multiple families in the neighborhood!” Hahahaha! I wish I knew who wrote it, my guess was Dominick’s dad.
Brutalmoose has had this channel for a long time, and he's accomplished a great deal. Let's take a moment and acknowledge his successes with a round of [piece of wood]. In all seriousness, though, here's to our pioneer of a UA-camr. :) Keep up the good work, Brutalmoose.
Both Billy and Austin had ironic deaths, Austin said he had never been sick and he died on sickness and Billy said he could take on wildlife and died to animal mauling...
Ok, it's pretty smart having Austin die of a cold. Turns out he really hasn't been sick once in his natural born life and that means he hasn't built up an immunity. Got a kind of War of the Worlds twist there.
Patrick: "I think Lansford W Hanstings should be thrown in jail..." Ian: "You're not going to try to talk to me about this, are you?" Me: Let him SPEAK!
Gosh this brings back memories! One time I went down big hill and it told me that a member of my party fell out the front of the wagon and the wagon ran them over and broke their leg 😅
This game was my favorite as a kid! Word of advice, use caution bringing the Irish guy. He's a butcher, so the chickens I brought along with me started suddenly disappearing...and my meat stores going up.
Man, talk about a nostalgia trip. This is the version of the game I grew up with, and I think it's great and I've heard too few people talk about it. It was a pleasant surprise to see this in my sub feed.
No, you must be thinking of my 276th genetic clone, who looks just like me and somehow managed to have the same username. Jk, it just appears that we have extremely similar interests ^o^
I only ever played the very first one at school, you had to boot off those massive floppy discs. All I really remember is dying once and typing "he farted" on my headstone. Then another kid on the network found it and told the teacher, and i actually got in a lot of trouble. . . for some reason.
Fart was considered a curse word back when these games were new. Actually it's kind of funny to me how quickly that word went from being considered obscene to being common parlance, all within my lifetime.
@@TheAtroxious Right? I swear they reacted like I wrote the N Word. I wasn't allowed to play Oregon Trail anymore. Oh well. . . "Actually it's kind of funny to me how quickly that word went from being considered obscene to being common parlance, all within my lifetime." I couldn't have said it better. Seriously, that's borderline poetry. But yeah, the difference in acceptable public speech over the last few decades is bonkers. I'm 43, how old are you?
@@SewerTapes I'm 34. I remember being told when I was little that "fart" was a curse and we should just say "make gas". Cue all sorts of unintentional hilarity upon discussions of the gas bill, or needing to breathe gas. At some point when I was a teenager I noticed the word "fart" being used in children's shows on daytime TV and that broke my brain slightly given the taboo against it from my own childhood.
I don't get how they can spend all this time making these FMV animations for every character, and also have them react to a lot of different situations. But they couldn't just take a single photo of them lying down being sick? - They could even be extra fancy in ensuring that everyone had their head in the same position (the rest of the body doesn't matter much), and then also taking a second photo of them standing and holding the head of the person. That way, they could incorporate two party members in the image.
Between Austin dying of a cold and Billy getting killed by a bear, I feel like the banker dude would have just spent your entire budget on something stupid like trail bikes if you had recruited him.
But then who would throw the bike in the ocean?
Banker if brutal moose chose him: sorry but I’m actually an outlaw so long thine sucker! *a pice of splash text on the screen said an imposter stole all of your money *
Do not slander the trail bike
austin billings never having been sick, then dying from a cold actually make sense, if he'd grown up really sheltered and never gotten sick his immune system wouldn't be used to fighting stuff off , combine that with foreign allergens and bacteria, and you've got a bad time right there.
The23rdDevil I guess the common cold just wasn't common enough.
@@michaldanek7734 Your immune system has been trained with vaccines. (lets not get into the fact that reality is not pretty and its fucking complicated the issue around vaccines) thats why you can survive the common cold better then your ancestors. You have essentially "leveled up" your immune system.
I mean this more genuinely and less snarky than it sounds, but what are the chances a Black man in 19th-century America would have had the chance to grow up sheltered?
@@haroldsparrow881 It's really not complicated, people are just paranoid and listening to conspiracy theories about vaccinations because they want to protect their kids and for some reason think the government is trying to kill them, and in their paranoia they trust the few resources that agree with their already established points of view instead of the ones that are actually accurate, and thusly don't vaccinate their children in an attempt to keep them safe that is actually making them and those around them worse off.
@@janeeyre1990 I'm guessing he was born and raised his entire life in one place...?
Like, maybe the common cold wouldn't have gotten to him, but some other bacteria/virus could have.
There's something rather dark about watching the perky, somewhat developed, and decently acted FMV characters die in awful and painful ways
Except you don't really watch them die, you watch weirdly drawn "people" get sick.
It gets kind of dark if you take Sally and Jeff. In one of my games Jeff was killed instantly by an accidental gunshot, but in Sally's FMV scenes she still acted as if he was alive. I figure she just went nuts.
@@Silanda That is really sad.
It's because it makes the characters feel more alive
I know this comment was posted forever ago, but if this game makes you uncomfortable, then you'd find The Harvester downright disturbing! It's this game pretty much dedicated to FMV gore. I only got about thirty minutes in, because I found it too discomforting, pffft.
"Ain't never been sick in my life"
Those were his last words before immediately dying from a cold
He's never been sick. His immune system is shot. He could easily die of a cold.
He’s come back to reply to your comment!
👻💬
That's the problem. He isn't prepared for sickness.
6:38 - The way he says "wife" makes me think that she needed a way to get to America and he needed a beard.
What do you mean he needs a beard?
@@idiotsavant2343
It's a slang term for a lady in a relationship with a gay guy for the purposes of making him look straight.
That explains why morale was so high after Anna died
exactly what i was thinking!
Yeah, I noticed that too."My...'wife'...will be coming with us. 😉"
Okay dude. You're about as straight as the trail itself, but okay.
Dude the actors are great.
This actually doesn't look like a bad game, even beyond this channel's standards
yeah I actually dare say that putting actors in as the people you travel with, better interaction rather than just talking to random people
I grew up with this game. It's my personal favorite growing up
Dude you're great.
@@kk11mmcchh11 no. YOU are great.
Austin Billings- Ain't never been sick, once in my natural born life!
*catches a cold and dies first*
I am someone you don't know how the hell do you die from a cold? Even without the advances in medicine a cold is the easiest thing to treat, plenty of sleep, plenty to drink and you'll be fine
eh moose made poor decisions you shouldn't give someone with Cholera a peppermint.
well take for example, there are two elderly people in the game their conditions start off as very good, while the younger people start off in excellent condition. now say you are traveling with one of the older people, there are times that if they catch a cold it could develop into Pneumonia, and if you picked Edward or Fabiola and either of them caught it, game over.
Ninja Greg Show : When your cold turned into a respiratory infection, it became pneumonia. Before antibiotics, it meant bye-bye!
Karma
It's strange rewatching these old videos and seeing Ian with short hair instead of his glorious long locks.
It's like a time capsul. Lets you know where you are in his upload schedule
this riverbank would make a great place for this piece of wood.
Are you sure that splinter was an accident?
+TheAmphabulousGamer Anna nearly drowned.
Doors.
Level Clear!!!!
the psychokinetic rock Why Not Doors?
You missed the best wagon member, the medicine lady who can heal anything. The people you have to select from are different each time you play.
You don’t think Ian is the best wagon member? I’m telling
And another with a passive ability to just repair broken axels and wheels every time they break, a healer for your actual wagon.
That was a farmer as I recall.
At least no one fell down and hurt their leg.
I fell down & hurt my leg!
Mary almost drowned.
at this current moment there is comment directly above yours saying and i quote "I fell down and hurt my leg"
I've fallen... *AND I CANT GET GET UP*
Just cut off and queaterize anything that brakes. Sure safe way of survival.
(6:35) "Almost forgot my wife"
Sounds like a wonderful relationship.
Well, as Ian predicted in his Yukon Trail-video, he forgot about the trail-game-scoreboard.
yeah.......
it's 2x2 now right?
***** Yep. I actually avoided saying it to not spoil the video :P
I was really hoping that the last 5 seconds of the video would be him saying "you thought I'd forget, wouldn't you?" and showing the scoreboard.
I'm disappointed.
I expect many comments talking about pieces of wood and good resting places.
This piece of wood makes a good resting place
I also expected it from your comment. And I'm not surprised.
This comment section makes for a good resting place.
You sure that BEAR ATTACK was an accident?
This resting place makes a good piece of wood. You sure it was an accident?
Trail Game Scoreboard:
Ian - 2
Games - 2
MadmanEpic thank the lord someone else remembers that to!
I FELL DOWN AND BROKE MY...piece of wood
50th like
MadmanEpic effet bien
Fair game
When my middle school history teacher taught us about the Donner party, he asked us what we thought would happen to them and I jokingly answered “cannibalism”.
We learned what happened the next day and I never thought I’d ever be correct about cannibals
There's no party like a donner party!
These FMVs would make a good resting place.
Piece of wood.
These FMVS would make a good piece of wood
This piece of wood would make a good resting place for FMVs.
Mary drowned in 2 feet of FMV.
Perfect to- *FALL DOWN AND HURT YOUR LEG*
Sad how he never brought up "piece of wood" joke at all, that was the greatest part of his Oregon Trail video.
The box the game came in, was made out of a piece of wood.
*WATERCOLOURS*
there new oregon trail meme
DrawnToast And the two feet of water
"A little mauling here and there builds character!"
-My Dad (he would say that)
Lukeisfluffy mine would tell me to go drink Jack Daniels
Are you calvin
6:10:
Sally: "please, take us with you!"
Ian: "I SAID NO!"
At this point it's Oregon Fail and everybody's dead.
lel
PIECE OF WOOD
PIECE Of Wood
Piece of wood
piece of wood
It's funny because he actually won this one.
At least Mary wasn't around when Ian was fishing. She could had drowned in a shallow pond during that time.
BUT WHERE IS THE SCOREBOARD?!?!
So, the person who's never gotten sick dies of illness and the guy who has wrestled just about every animal dies from being mauled by a bear......... oh, the irony!
You know what they say, there’s a first time for anything’
I'm starting to think that maybe never getting sick isn't a good thing. Your immune system won't know how to fight it off
@@tristencox5914 I think he means that he has a immune system so strong that no disease can pass through it I think that's what he said
That makes his statement even more ironic!
I'd hate to imagine how the guy who "gets on with animals" would have died . . .
I just assumed you died on the trip and now this place is purgatory and the 'ghost' man is just someone who died as well probably from the extreme amount of bears out in the wild.
I fell down and hurt my leg
I need to stop and take care of it.
I died of dysentery
I ate my leg
I died in a 2 feet deep riverbank.
BreadSlice95 This riverbank makes for a good dyin place
In the first Oregon Trail game you could write epithets on the tombstones of deceased party members, and anyone playing or even playing a copy of that original, could stumble across and read the tombstones of other parties. I had a copy of my pal Dominick family’s version, my little brother was playing with my mom and they came across a grave of “Holly,” (Dominick’s mom’s name,) whose epithet read; “She gave one helluva blow job.”
It was a neighborhood scandal as rips had been passed out to multiple families in the neighborhood!” Hahahaha! I wish I knew who wrote it, my guess was Dominick’s dad.
Epitaphs.
Man, being mauled is just unbearable.
It's a real grizzly experience
I can't bear the thought of it.
Man, that wasn't even bearly funny.
Bear pun.
Pun bear.
"Ain't never been sick, in my natural born life..."
*Dies of a critical cold*
I can't stop laughing!!!
Lol 😆
Guess he had no immune system.
Brutalmoose has had this channel for a long time, and he's accomplished a great deal. Let's take a moment and acknowledge his successes with a round of [piece of wood].
In all seriousness, though, here's to our pioneer of a UA-camr. :) Keep up the good work, Brutalmoose.
4:14 caddicarus intro on a harmonica
Holy shit! I didn't notice!
Maybe he did added it in on purpose :3
Doesn't really sound like it
That "fuck no" part got me real good
It got me too. I’ve cried laughing at a few of his videos. He’s had me hooked on these
Both Billy and Austin had ironic deaths, Austin said he had never been sick and he died on sickness and Billy said he could take on wildlife and died to animal mauling...
Thank you, Captain Obvious
*You sure it was an accident?*
PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE OF WOOD
Don't want any murderin' varmints...
y'know, this riverbank makes for a good resting place.
Fluffle Poof
I FELL DOWN AND HURT MY LEG!
I feel bad about you losing your things......
No piece of wood? Very dissapointed. 0/10
The box the game came in was made of a piece of wood.
Not enough riverbanks that make a good resting place.
There better not be any murdering varments about!
But... but... but *𝕎 𝔸 𝕋 𝔼 ℝ ℂ 𝕆 𝕃 𝕆 ℝ 𝕊*
You sure that was made of a piece of wood?
"...but I made it soooooooooon!!"
That part is what did it for me. Man that was hilarious!
I don't know why the "I SAID NO " made me laugh so much
Ok, it's pretty smart having Austin die of a cold. Turns out he really hasn't been sick once in his natural born life and that means he hasn't built up an immunity. Got a kind of War of the Worlds twist there.
the Donner party tried Hastings' shortcut, and less than half of them survived
+Summer Amberson that got creepy fast
It's alright. I mean after Jacob Donner settled he shared the secrets of baby back ribs.
dude I just realized that I said "less than none" xD
Fun fact, one of the survivors opened a restaurant after settling down.
It went as well as you would expect.
Bogpaddle didn't they eat each other?
"I aint been sick once in my natural born life!"
>Is the first to die.
"And so, our journey to Oregon begi--"
*ANIMALS EXHAUSTED*
Well, that was fast.
kinna funny
Ain't never been sick once in my natural-born life!
He's dead now.
YujiUedaFan But are you sure it was an accident?
piece of wood, a piece of wood, a piece of wood...
Scott Krafft maybe he had a really weak immune system from never getting sick
Thomas D
Huh. That makes sense.
You are one of if not the funniest youtuber ever.
G A S P
General Sam has him beat
Ian, your shirt is absolutely beautiful. It completely overshadows the rest of the video.
That goddamn journalist brought up repressed memories of that Donner Party comic book my mom thought would be a good thing to give to a 13 year old.
That wouldn't happen to be the Nathan Hales' Hazardous Tales graphic novel, would it?
Patrick: "I think Lansford W Hanstings should be thrown in jail..."
Ian: "You're not going to try to talk to me about this, are you?"
Me: Let him SPEAK!
This comment section looks like a good resting place.
This river makes for a good final resting place
Gosh this brings back memories! One time I went down big hill and it told me that a member of my party fell out the front of the wagon and the wagon ran them over and broke their leg 😅
I can't believe you let Nick die like that!You know you can't expect someone with refined skills of survival to survive!
There's something I find inexplicably hilarious about the over-dramatic montage at 14:55.
Austin: Never been sick once his life, died of sickness
Billy: handled anything land or water through at him, died from bear mauling
Logic
I wish you got PBG to be in this video when I saw that Austin died.
This game was my favorite as a kid! Word of advice, use caution bringing the Irish guy. He's a butcher, so the chickens I brought along with me started suddenly disappearing...and my meat stores going up.
You did forget about the scoreboard from the Yukon trail review now it's 2-2 for you Ian
You sure those deaths weren't an accident? *echos*
Don't want any murdering varmints about
+Yung Venuz God of guns piece of wood
wood
wood
Y'know, this river makes a good resting place
He referenced Mall Maddness! He just released a video about it today! Awesome!
When he says "down right terrifying" at 8:52, he sounds kind of like Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls. Creepy.
DaRichMan IT'S FUNNY HOW DUMB YOU ARE.
hE DOES OH MY GOs
pbg trash Yeah.
*WOAH*
@@sockworks😮
The acting of the NPCs in this game is actually pretty impressive
Apparently Nicholas J. Tillman is a gag character throughout the games who gives intentionally terrible advice
LOL
Based
Is it weird that I'd want to see a movie like this? Where Brutalmoose has his party slowly get killed and then he's the only survivor?
4:30 "You're here to Oregon-ize a wagon party, aren't you?"
"You're basically sitting in your wagon on the way to Oregon waiting for something terrible to happen" this sounds like life.
COINCIDENTAL REFRESH SQUAD REEEEEEEEE
me too.
REEEEE NOTIFICATION SQUAD GET OUT
REEEEEEE
ayyy
Fresh comments are always scaring to me. Help reeeee.
Something about that “sharp as fox” edit really had me 💀
12:58 "I FELL DOWN AND HURT MY LEG!"
Don't listen to him Patrick. I think your sleeves are both practical and attractive.
Now I NEED a video of Ian playing Mall Madness
08:54
I was not pre-warned of Bill Cipher's participation in the long-suffering wagon team as well!
The Blue Steel joke actually made me laugh out loud to the surprise of my housemates. Take your well earned like you savage.
Man, talk about a nostalgia trip. This is the version of the game I grew up with, and I think it's great and I've heard too few people talk about it. It was a pleasant surprise to see this in my sub feed.
Like the 5th time I'm revisited this. I'll go half a year without watching much and then binge everything for a few days straight! Great content.
That hastings cutoff part I kinda enjoyed. This games mostly made for education and mentioning the hastings cut off is cool.
Y'know, this fice makes for a good resting place.
But Ian, what if I like bears?
What if you....bare bears?
What if....we bare bears.
You care about bears?
What if it's Winnie the Pooh or the Care Bears?
I like bears ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Of course the black guy dies first
#BlackLivesMatter #StartAnotherViolentRiot #NatureIsWhite
'Ain't ever been sick,once in my natural born life!'
good
a good person Wood
Bloodbath and Beyond we are not leaving him until we give him a piece of wood
14:40 Man, the smarminess radiating from the guy is almost palpable.
And of course the black guy was the first to die. Not even educational video games are safe from horror movie clichés...
Aren't you the same person I've seen on Oddity Archive? If yes, I've seen you everywhere I go!
No, you must be thinking of my 276th genetic clone, who looks just like me and somehow managed to have the same username. Jk, it just appears that we have extremely similar interests ^o^
Otaking Mikohani -- cool, it's always great to see my kind of people.
"Never been sick once in my natural born life!"
*Dies from cold*
Otaking Mikohani The black guy didn't die first in Alien, though.
...I actually WAS staring at the rod. Ian you're a goddamn future psychic.
I especially love the commentary in this one, Ian reached a magnicent new level of denial
Shenandoah playing in the background really sells the suspense 😭
15:05 ... I know this led to a joke, but... man, for that moment, that was like pretty sad, the way Brutalmoose said that line
I only ever played the very first one at school, you had to boot off those massive floppy discs. All I really remember is dying once and typing "he farted" on my headstone. Then another kid on the network found it and told the teacher, and i actually got in a lot of trouble. . . for some reason.
Fart was considered a curse word back when these games were new. Actually it's kind of funny to me how quickly that word went from being considered obscene to being common parlance, all within my lifetime.
@@TheAtroxious
Right? I swear they reacted like I wrote the N Word. I wasn't allowed to play Oregon Trail anymore. Oh well. . .
"Actually it's kind of funny to me how quickly that word went from being considered obscene to being common parlance, all within my lifetime."
I couldn't have said it better. Seriously, that's borderline poetry. But yeah, the difference in acceptable public speech over the last few decades is bonkers. I'm 43, how old are you?
@@SewerTapes I'm 34. I remember being told when I was little that "fart" was a curse and we should just say "make gas". Cue all sorts of unintentional hilarity upon discussions of the gas bill, or needing to breathe gas. At some point when I was a teenager I noticed the word "fart" being used in children's shows on daytime TV and that broke my brain slightly given the taboo against it from my own childhood.
@@TheAtroxious
LOL. Can't stop fart jokes no matter what you call it.
Ian: 2
trail games: 2
it's a tie
I love these actors! They sound so passionate about the roles and I wish I could do something like this sometime.
3:18 Oh boy, a reference to cannibalism in a kids game!
Oh yeah. That. :\
who the hell puts a game into a wooden box???
People that want to make Clint from LGR orgasm with excitement.
piece of wood
People who want to afford a good resting place
Murderin' Varmints
Personally I'd like to have a copy of Kingdom Hearts II with me in my coffin
I’ve not seen such bravery
Haha, was not expecting this nostalgia trip at all, brings back days of drowning in rivers because I had several tons of buffalo meat. Good times.
I recall playing this game over and over again, making new games pecifically to get to the hunting segments.
I would really love to see Ian tackle any Phillips CDI games. The zelda games would be great for a video.
We don't speak it's name
Congrats on tieing the scoreboard, Ian!
"Dont think I didnt catch you staring at my ROD!?" That giggle was my fav part of the vid, I watched it like 10 times XD
Those 'Cholera' and 'Swamped Wagon' guitar sounds are hilarious
+brutalmoose You said it, and you were right. You didn't reference the trail game scoreboard again.
11:22 *W A T E R C O L O R S*
I’ve only known Austin and Anna for such a short time but I’d die for both of them.
Oregon Trail III was my Oregon Trail! I remember being so excited once I made it to disc 3. I never made it all the way to Oregon, though...
we’re gonna
cAULK THE WAGON, *MOOUTHFAAACE*
uNTIL THEEEEEE DAAAAAAAY WE DIIIIIIIIIEEEEE-
2:35 Nice transatlantic accent that didn't exist at all at that time, Patrick.
I just now noticed the supplies joke at the end with the scoring, I love you for that
I don't get how they can spend all this time making these FMV animations for every character, and also have them react to a lot of different situations. But they couldn't just take a single photo of them lying down being sick? - They could even be extra fancy in ensuring that everyone had their head in the same position (the rest of the body doesn't matter much), and then also taking a second photo of them standing and holding the head of the person. That way, they could incorporate two party members in the image.