The Look Back Diaries Episode 66 with Margaret Dunlap
Вставка
- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Winter squash is coming
Support Ashley on Patreon: / ashleyclements
Follow Ashley:
/ theashleyclem
/ theashleyclem
www.ashleyclem...
Follow Margaret:
/ spyscribe
/ spyscribe
Watch The Lizzie Bennet Diaries: • Giving Thanks - Ep: 66
Subtitles (and opinions) by Sophie Lesher
Hearing Margaret talk about why Darcy and Collins have such an extensive vocabulary and the differences between the two of them was... illuminating. ;)
Also, Darcy uses big words to say precisely what he means in few words. Collins just doesn’t stop talking.
Ricky Collins definitely seems like the kind of guy who memorized all the SAT vocab words, and tried to work every single one into everyday conversation
I wrote my college senior thesis on Emma Approved! 😊 of course, title included a pun I’m still proud of: The Dilemma of Emma: Translating an Unlikeable Heroine from Page to Screen
That's so cool!!
Two episodes ago, Charlotte had Lizzie's back. In this episode, Lizzie had Charlotte's back. :) They're just 2 besties supporting each other well.
Bye Collins & Collins! We won't miss you *that* much because PEMBERLY IS COMING UP 👀👀👀👀
I love that you have writers on the look backs! I love hearing this perspective. And that book sounds so interesting!
Oh. So it was just me that envisioned Game of Gourds with the cast of VeggieTales?
LOL I did too!!!!!
Everyone that saw this KNOWS that Charlotte runs Collins & Collins & Lu
I always imagined Game of Gourds kind of like the Star Wars vegetable parody they played at my local science museum
😂
There is a kindle version of "Jane Austen, Sex, and Romance", so it's pretty easy to get a copy, provided you have the funds. It's academic publishing, so it's pricey compared to a mass release.
Good to know!
I love all your guest and but you with writers are probably the best discussions because you get to know this series much more in the depth and why it happened like it happened. This was brilliat episode of look back diaries, thak you.
I wrote 2 papers in college about LBD and talked about it in my interview at scriptwriting school
Somewhere on UA-cam is a video shot by some parent of their kid wearing a cape in a school play about oral hygiene. Of course it is early video technology and terrible sound.
It's always so interesting to hear from Margaret - I liked the explanation of the difference in Collins' and Darcy's voices! So cool to hear about the book as well. I read an academic book analysing the Darcy figure across time and media and in my opinion in didn't mention LBD enough! (though it was referenced!).
I LOVE all the discussions about Collins and his vocabulary usage, because I rewatched Hamlet yesterday and this discussion made me realize that Collins and Osric are the exact same. Lit nerds, am I right?
Also I always imagined Game of Gourds as a like, squash-themed Wipeout knockoff. With pumpkin catapults. This idea was not very fleshed out but that's always been in my mind from the beginning.
Wow, that book chapter would have been so helpful when I wrote my little thesis for my undergrad degree. The class was on 18th century adaptations and I wrote about how LBD adapted Lydia's story. Would have loved citing this!
Way back in college in 2005ish I took a Jane Austen course and we had the option to do any original work for our final so I took my professor up on that and wrote a chapter from P&P from Charlotte's pov and I can also confirm that Collins is delightful to write 😂
Okay, that book looks fantastic on title alone…
In my head, I was picturing Game of Gourds looking more like Veggie Tales...
😂
I leave really enjoyed these and the insights one gets hearing from the writers and cast. That is a really interesting comparison between Collins and Darcy and something that never occurred to me as an, admittedly, casual viewer.
You guys nailed it with the discussion of the similarities and differences between Darcy and Collins. While I agree that Darcy is much more secure than Collins, he does have the added social insecurity that Collins appears to lack.
I was going to wait to bring this up closer to the actual event but your conversation with Margaret about the Lydia storyline just reminded me
There was a movie that came out on Hulu this year called Fire Island, it was a gay movie that really focused on Asian members of the community on a trip to Fire Island. I didn't watch it for the longest time but what I didn't realize was that it was an actual modernized adaption of Pride & Prejudice
In the movie they actually do the same thing LBD did for their version of Lydia's storyline, the Lydia character gets with the Wickham character, he creates a sex tape, uses that to blackmail, and then the Darcy character helps resolve it
I don't think they copied or ripped off LBD, or at least I hope they didn't, but it is interesting two completely different interpretations of a "modern" Pride & Prejudice chose to go down a very similar route in the skeleton of that story and what the parallel to a scandal of this time period and and equivalent of the time period of P&P would be.
I don’t think Fire Island is all that niche…I feel like this audience must know it? If not, check it out! I also definitely 👀 that Lydia move. I think LBD may have just put it in the zeitgeist.
@@TheAshleyClements I wasn't sure how niche it was. I know i saw the ads for it because I followed one of the leads before the show came out so I heard of it that way. I didn't know how far it reached out to the mainstream
But yeah I'd be interested to learn their thought process behind the decision and to see if they were inspired by LBD and, if they weren't, what conclusion led them to the same one LBD had
In my head Game of Gourds was something similar to Game of Thrones except.... with pumpkins...somehow?
I literally sketched myself a little fanart poster for that style of Game of Gourds earlier this fall, because apparently that’s what happens when you rewatch some GoT and some LBD too close together 😂
It involves knights jousting at pumpkins.
Can we see it??
Lol of course!! I tried to link it in a comment but it doesn’t seem to be going through, I’ll try to tag Ashley in the insta post
In a couple of years, the JASNA AGM will be in Ohio and the focus will be about the derivative works. I reallllly think we should have another panel or special interest presentation about the Lizzie Bennet Diaries or the new book Margaret has written.
We’ve both been guests of other JASNA events
Thank you Ashley!
Welp time to figure out how I can rent from academic libraries from my public library.
i wrote a paper in school about how pride and prejudice is made relevant in today's world and basically compared the 1995 bbc series, the 2005 film, this version and a bollywood style production called bride and prejudice. it was so much fun to look into the difference in target audience and the differences in impact but at the same time all of them (with the exception maybe of bride and prejudice which is not quite as popular) have a huge, and quite often overlapping, fan base
i chose the topic completely independently btw. I went to school in Germany and the course was very broadly "British culture" so I could choose whatever i wanted, as long as it was related to british culture lol
I always pictured Game of Gourds as kind of like Plants vs. Zombies
😂 That’s a new one
@ashleyclements I also never saw GoT, so that might also affect things 😆
Still can't tell if "you win or you're gourd" was meant to have a pun in it or if it's just nonsense
A few years ago while rewatching the series I think I figured it out, I'm 95% sure it's meant to be a pun about being "gored" or stabbed. Still not as good of a tagline as "Winter squash is coming."
👆🏻
@@hopek9461 Ohhhhhhhh. Thanks!
Actually, thinking about it, the concept of the gore/gourd pun is really good, it's just the execution that doesn't work. Nobody ever says "you're gored" to someone else
@@hopek9461 ahh makes sense! and presumably it's based on the Game of Thrones saying "you win or you die".
...bearing in mind I'm from England and had never encountered the word gourd before in my life...I assumed it wss some kind of Game of Thrones thing and that Gourds were some kind of Ogre...I am just now realising, a decade later, that I could not have been more wrong...