@@Blastopia Exactly at least Zangief has to earn his shit and position himself well to land the big damage grabs. Marisa just needs to bait and armor through shit like the hulk lol.
It's her defence, Her lack of a wake-up dp and slow lv 1 put her in a bad spot. That combined with her need for resources incentivizes people to play very aggressively against her and drive impact blows up so much of her offence because of the recovery (Half her normals aren't special cancellable). I've seen Problem X get knocked out of tournaments for trying to wind stock at full screen because of drive rush. A few days ago he did it against a Blanka who did a drive rush d/f heavy punch which put him in the corner and a couple of wrong guesses later it was gg. Lily looks good against people who don't lab the matchup but more and more people are exploiting her weaknesses now it's very tough.
That level 1 in particular is why she is so easy to bully, as most jabs will actually recover before it comes out. You're also on point with the stocks, and it looks and feels so bad to have to do ex wind stock so you aren't dancing for basically a full second. Without stocks she's kind of a joke, and it's hard for her to build them on offense like Juri does. So in my eyes she's the worst kind of a "win-more" character.
At least she has a Level 1 SA. Zangief suffers the same fate WITHOUT an invincible option 'till Level TWO, and only BSB a.k.a. The Bomb Dropper, is fast enough to be useful.
That Kimberly’s combo and bomb setup into super confirm were amazing. I’m getting a lot better at Kim but both bomb setups and landing the aerial command grab for the combo extend are a serious sticking point for me and I really hope to get better at it
If there were a fighting game with two characters and the only difference between the two was one normal did 1 less damage, people would still call that character trash.
@@darius410I agree it is incredibly balanced I tried going back to Tekken after it but shit was ass. I'm a SF fan now, never thought that'd be the case lol
@corvoyami3192 lol hell people don't realise how much other games be unbalanced. MvC2 most would have it as one of the best games ever. Half the roster unplayable.
Her ex condor wind attack needs to be a true block string and fast cuz it has no purpose other than to be a bait that doesn't really work cuz it's still pretty slow af and very much punishable.
@HostageOnline I'm saying it should be true block string on all heavy attacks medium attacks and maybe light attacks that would give lily players a good option to get windstock and not gamble with the opponents reactions.
And to think they "nerfed" her, taking away Jump back ex dive. I know that's how how the move is supposed to work, but she needs it. At least they have us Jump back lvl 2.
Her only reversal is the level 2 super and it's bad. OD enhanced spire, her best move, can be countered with drive reversal. MP and HP wind stock can be DIed.
OD enhanced spire is mostly useful for going thru projectiles or for certain corner juggles. But you can put the opponent in a similar situation with just enhanced spire and be only +1 instead of +2 . And if they DR the non-OD, then thats a win for the Lily. The mp and hp wind stores can lose to DI, but once Lily mixes in LP wind store to recover in time, it makes going for a DI at all a bit more risky.
@@matthewdellatorre4679 You go back to full screen neutral with less damage on board than most characters get in a single good interaction. That's what happens.
@@qspec2002 yeah if they were basically mashing DI the moment they see cr.hp or b.hp and catch it early, then it can win. But that's risky in itself and can be baited by just using either of those in isolation to see what they do. Main point is the good Lily's like Problem X are often rotating between cancelling a heavy into LP store as a bait, cancelling to mp or hp store on block, doing lp store raw in neutral, doing mp/hp store raw in neutral and holding momentarily and releasing if someone walks forward, etc. There is no 100% safe path. It becomes a guessing game on both sides and the most conservative option after some conditioning tends to be using more LP stores than anything else. There are also some situations to hit cr.hp meaty and cancelled into mp store as a true blockstring, such as after an SPD and immediately drive rushing and timing cr.hp so it only hits the 2nd part and at their feet.
As a JP main, I feel like he does well against characters that need to stack like Jamie and Manon I'd say best tech would just keep getting in the JP's face, bait out counter & drive rush and don't try to stack when in mid screen, cuz I'll be able to reset the position much easier from there. Try to stack when you're closer and off a hard KD. I've noticed JP's do well when characters keep pressing buttons because I can send you full screen off a mistake and do my bullshit. Patience is key
Something about no sauce but I'm subbed to elchakotay and see him styling on fools with her whenever he uploads so iunno. She fun and cool, all i need.
That's the real test; getting windstocks safely, and making each of those moves count. Nothing more frustrating that getting windstock and failing to even connect with opponents to take advantage of the plus frame.
Anti-air with cHp and follow up with heavy swing, then do light wind and you automatically have two stocks. If you opt to end your combos in medium wind (fake) a few times to bait out D.Impact then later cHp into light spire and counter their D.Impact with your own and you have 3 stocks. After that, ensure to end combos with medium swing to keep at least 2 stocks and always have pressure and projectile blow up always handy. Signed -A Lily Main
Lily is weak. Capcom gave her the best special move in the game in OD Condor Spire so they had to balance it out by making her trash in every other aspect of her game.
Lily is not nearly as bad as people make her out to be.She has alot of good stuff easily the best pokes in the game(that also doubles as an anti air and is arguably also the best in the game),her command grab can get you out of nowhere and do massive damage etc.
Lily can't have been bad, Capcom nerfed her in the rashid patch so obviously she was the best character in the game. (Kidding, obviously, back-jump EX dive was a bug, not a feature. I'm sad to see it go either way)
Lily is just a really different playstyle. She doesn't have insane combo routes but she has really good pressure with her wind stocks and command grab IMO.
Lily's a grappler at the end of the day. A buff or two would be nice, but maybe she'd be a bit broken. I'd like to hear what other grapplers have that she doesn't.
Personally I feel like grapplers in this game should be spending their super bar more often. Manon players are starting to understand this. As I Zangief player I get more mileage out of using level 1-2 supers over level 3.
Lily Buff List: Ex windstock tomahawk buster is full invincible. Or Maker her lvl 1 invincible on frame 1 and faster to catch whiffed 4 frames. Double stacked DP should be Invincible cause its double stacked. Or Lvl 1 should catch whiffed buttons cause why am I punished for reacting?! Speed that thang up!
Randomly throwing this in here but when Dhalsim Ryu and Zangief beat Lily, their lines seem to hint that she’s got more to offer in terms of story. Personally it seems like they’re hinting that she might have to meet Necalli at some point. Maybe she’s a decendant of one of the ancient warriors he fought in the past and that’s how she got her wind spirit.
@@Mindcry7181 ty for answering. Been trying mk11 but seems like waste of time not a lot of players. I haven’t played sf sense the arcade version of 2 lol
@@mikesantiago1236fighting in fighting games is only gonna get harder as time moves on, the best time to start will always be now. Better to start now than later yknow?
Yes, there are a lot of tutorials and moves and World Tour mode helps you learn stuff too just buy having fun and playing through it. The game has a big following and there are plenty of other beginners to help you learn
As a Lily main, as much as i enjoyed playing her, i will honestly say yes Justin she's sucks. For starter, 1) Her OD + windstock Condor Spire can't even beat normal Blanka ball or Honda normal headbutt and DI can still punish it. 2) Her normal DP doesn't have invisibility and can only be used as anti air or combo ender. 3) Her pushback after normal throw is ridiculously far so i can't play throw loop like the other cast. 4) Her super 1 have very slow startup which is quite unreliable. 5) Some of her normals...oh my, they are just straight garbage. In the end, she have more cons than pros and i hope Capcom give her a good buff in the future.
@@LEWfromdaHOU My friend, every characters have poke that can stop Blanka ball and Honda headbutt. But writing _'used those pokes to stop the ball and headbutt'_ is a lot easier than done. I mean, you need a correct timing with those pokes and one mistake will lead to trade or counter hit. For example, go search ProblemX Lily vs EndingWalker Honda match and you'll see ProblemX never use Lily poke to stop the headbutt. He mostly used parry to stop it and the rest either he blocks or just got hit by the headbutt. Lily pokes have slow recovery frames which is not reliable to stop Blanka ball or Honda headbutt. And i did used Tomahawk Buster to stop the ball / headbutt but that was just some coincidence. I rather used parry which is safer than risk a whiff or trade.
@@thepuppetmaster9284 You're not Problem X. You're not EndingWalker. And you're not fighting anyone close to their ability. So don't use them as a comparison. By the way you talk, you sound like you can't beat anybody. You're just so damn negative about her. How are you a Lily main?????? Don't argue over what's easy or hard with Lily. Just get good.
Am I the only one who finds the sound of Jamie drinking infuriating? The gulp and aaah? The mechanic itself is fine but every time I hear that noise I want to smash the television. Same feelings about the drinking in FFXVI lol.
It's something you really notice and get pissed about when you fight against him. Like bro I'm doing my best street fighting over here and you are over there doing sweet fuckall and getting stronger for it
That Dhalsim didn't give you those points because you weren't using the quest item you get from saving a rat about to be eaten by a cat at the beginning of the game. Without them you can't face the "true form" of IAMTHEFINALBOSS and get those points, Justin.
When you said you should buy lily's outfit does that mean its an unlock for actual money or game points? Miss playing street fighter and didn't realize it until now. But I am not a fan of unlocks not doable unless you pay more actual money.
@@fozymilogranotheres a difference between good players, pro players and amateurs, the way justin plays is meant to throw you off your game like you were never prepared to be, so even good players get washed by him
Man, Justin, I am surprised that people let you get away with those Condor Spire. These are so easy to simply Drive Impact and you were just keep using them either in neutral or in cancels... it is one of the reason why I don't believe the ranks are representative anymore. Getting to master for good players is way easier in 6 than in V.
Not everyone is going to be ready for the matchup from a knowledge standpoint, especially for a less popular character like Lily. And this footage is from Justin's stream at least a few weeks ago, maybe even back in late June. So players were even less apt to be familiar.
Isn't that just because there are not that many Lily in the higher ranks, though? So theses player might be good, but they're not used to the match-up?
God dammit Justin, you can Daigo Parry with the shit some homeless person left outside my apartment last week. You can literally make anything work. Next video, Unpolished Turd Road to Master.
Tier list merely point out which characters have more tools than others. Lily lacking a true dp, a 4 frame LP, not lk (pitiful knee), and a full unique kit vs a hampered kit. Example: Cammy's charged heavy specials vs getting stocks. Some characters are just built better than others. Lily is on the bottom end where as Luke is on the mountain top just by comparing tools.
Major part mark Lily as the worst character in the game is between dont have a Invisible Reversal, her better stuff need to windstocks every time because her moves are punishable witout Windstacks, the same her damage is low without Windtacks.
seems like all the stock charging characters get frowned upon by the pros but I can't blame them at the level and stakes their at. jamie and lily are fun to play but who wants to have to build up potential when you can pick a character with that ability already present? Good luck to all you pros, its hard to see you guys lose specially when your journey has been followed since the early days of learning and growing at a game.
Just want to say that i appreciate this kind of cleaner edit much more, while i have no doubt the more heavily edited ones takes more effort, they're just too much and i felt like i couldn't even watch a match in peace
Yet another demonstration that any character is good if you play it correctly. Sir, you make the gods of Teotenango proud! Teotenango is an archaeological site in southern Mexico. A very windy cluster of pyramids atop a hill.
She´s only good looking,in terms of gameplay?............................................she doesn't have much moves Ryu:Shoryu,Hadouken,Tatsu,the "donkey kick" the charge hadouken Lily:Going forward move,going up move,grab...........................and a wind that i don't know what you can do with it. Question,why the points are so special for everyone?,explain to me what you can do with those points,because you cannot buy things like in sfv like characters i think,so why so special about them?.
She sucks because Angel and Ramon exist…you know…los mexicanos auténticos y chidos. And Lily’s design in 2023 is a big YIKES especialmente aquí en mexico :v
Lily's one of those characters that when you see her you are always playing "Will it Kill?"
I feel like thats true for every character save marissa and zangief.
@@lostone9700P
@@lostone9700 nah some characters do stupid damage just pushing buttons
Playing Marisa is like “I can’t believe that killed”
@@Blastopia Exactly at least Zangief has to earn his shit and position himself well to land the big damage grabs. Marisa just needs to bait and armor through shit like the hulk lol.
As a Lily main, I really think she's a solid character, very underrated :( ...
Lily main. Lol
She has plus frames due to her mechanic but without wind she’s half a character if that. Also she can dump meter for great dmg without supers.
It's her defence, Her lack of a wake-up dp and slow lv 1 put her in a bad spot. That combined with her need for resources incentivizes people to play very aggressively against her and drive impact blows up so much of her offence because of the recovery (Half her normals aren't special cancellable).
I've seen Problem X get knocked out of tournaments for trying to wind stock at full screen because of drive rush. A few days ago he did it against a Blanka who did a drive rush d/f heavy punch which put him in the corner and a couple of wrong guesses later it was gg. Lily looks good against people who don't lab the matchup but more and more people are exploiting her weaknesses now it's very tough.
That level 1 in particular is why she is so easy to bully, as most jabs will actually recover before it comes out. You're also on point with the stocks, and it looks and feels so bad to have to do ex wind stock so you aren't dancing for basically a full second. Without stocks she's kind of a joke, and it's hard for her to build them on offense like Juri does. So in my eyes she's the worst kind of a "win-more" character.
This.
At least she has a Level 1 SA. Zangief suffers the same fate WITHOUT an invincible option 'till Level TWO, and only BSB a.k.a. The Bomb Dropper, is fast enough to be useful.
@@IncoU Hence Gief being widely rated as the weakest character in the game both characters need buffs.
@@IncoU My favorite part about his level 2 is how it doesn't seem to hit in the air at all. Like you can even empty jump into it and block.
5:50 combo and set up was sick!
That Kimberly’s combo and bomb setup into super confirm were amazing. I’m getting a lot better at Kim but both bomb setups and landing the aerial command grab for the combo extend are a serious sticking point for me and I really hope to get better at it
If there were a fighting game with two characters and the only difference between the two was one normal did 1 less damage, people would still call that character trash.
SF is more balanced then alot of games but even still Lilly is at the bottom of this game.
@@darius410I agree it is incredibly balanced I tried going back to Tekken after it but shit was ass. I'm a SF fan now, never thought that'd be the case lol
@corvoyami3192 lol hell people don't realise how much other games be unbalanced. MvC2 most would have it as one of the best games ever. Half the roster unplayable.
@@darius410 Yep. This is my first Street Fighter ever and I've been loving it
i want to see justin prove us wrong by winning a tourney with lily!
If you can beat a pro then they are tournament winnable and panda/Kuma might be the worst ftg characters out there and someone won a major
@@cosmic5665Mono beat a tournament using F.A.N.G.
@@REAL2222ful and lily is not even bad she is still strong
Justin prove us wong*
That won't prove anyone wrong lol
Her ex condor wind attack needs to be a true block string and fast cuz it has no purpose other than to be a bait that doesn't really work cuz it's still pretty slow af and very much punishable.
problemx got top 4 in belgium vs, the top Europe players.
@@adriandenton6637ProblemX is just that good at the game tbh
@HostageOnline I'm saying it should be true block string on all heavy attacks medium attacks and maybe light attacks that would give lily players a good option to get windstock and not gamble with the opponents reactions.
@HostageOnlineit is. Shame that it cost to bars to use, though.
@@adriandenton6637 Kudos to ProblemX but that doesn't change the fact that Lily have more cons than pros.
Lily legit feels like an unfinished character, I play her a good bit and I'm genuinely surprised they haven't had an emergency patch to buff her
And to think they "nerfed" her, taking away Jump back ex dive. I know that's how how the move is supposed to work, but she needs it. At least they have us Jump back lvl 2.
Lol a buff? Almost every Lily I play is annoying and abusive of her stuff. She doesn’t need a buff.
Honestly lily is my main, I think that you need to know the moves.
@@laylalays8910 you see how many people played her at Evo and how they all stood no chance? Pretty sure they knew her moves
@@ElComancheLily is absolutely dog shit. You holding L’s doesn’t change that lol
Her only reversal is the level 2 super and it's bad. OD enhanced spire, her best move, can be countered with drive reversal. MP and HP wind stock can be DIed.
okay but get command grabbed once and see what happens
OD enhanced spire is mostly useful for going thru projectiles or for certain corner juggles. But you can put the opponent in a similar situation with just enhanced spire and be only +1 instead of +2 . And if they DR the non-OD, then thats a win for the Lily. The mp and hp wind stores can lose to DI, but once Lily mixes in LP wind store to recover in time, it makes going for a DI at all a bit more risky.
@@matthewdellatorre4679 You go back to full screen neutral with less damage on board than most characters get in a single good interaction. That's what happens.
@@misterkeebler "The mp and hp wind stores can lose to DI, but once Lily mixes in LP wind store to recover in time"
@@qspec2002 yeah if they were basically mashing DI the moment they see cr.hp or b.hp and catch it early, then it can win. But that's risky in itself and can be baited by just using either of those in isolation to see what they do.
Main point is the good Lily's like Problem X are often rotating between cancelling a heavy into LP store as a bait, cancelling to mp or hp store on block, doing lp store raw in neutral, doing mp/hp store raw in neutral and holding momentarily and releasing if someone walks forward, etc. There is no 100% safe path. It becomes a guessing game on both sides and the most conservative option after some conditioning tends to be using more LP stores than anything else. There are also some situations to hit cr.hp meaty and cancelled into mp store as a true blockstring, such as after an SPD and immediately drive rushing and timing cr.hp so it only hits the 2nd part and at their feet.
I'm a Lily main and feel she's very underrated, but there are some matchups (especially JP) that feel near impossible.
Yea he feels like a wall...there has to be something.
Yeah that's a super tough one. He doesn't let you get a wind stock
As a JP main, I feel like he does well against characters that need to stack like Jamie and Manon
I'd say best tech would just keep getting in the JP's face, bait out counter & drive rush and don't try to stack when in mid screen, cuz I'll be able to reset the position much easier from there. Try to stack when you're closer and off a hard KD.
I've noticed JP's do well when characters keep pressing buttons because I can send you full screen off a mistake and do my bullshit. Patience is key
If I mained Lily I would have hard switched over to Rashid as of yesterday. She needs to be buffed.
Wait so your trying to make everyone believe ken and Ryu players aren't trouble.. idk man.
Whenever I play with Lily, I listen to T. Hawks old music. Gets me in an ass-kicking mood😂
not gonna lie i think he had one of the coolest themes in SFIV
Facts!
@@emanuelealfieri9 Along with Dee Jay
This official remix of his theme is really good: ua-cam.com/video/RjnRt2m1lq8/v-deo.html
Something about no sauce but I'm subbed to elchakotay and see him styling on fools with her whenever he uploads so iunno. She fun and cool, all i need.
The Lily pros know how to use her correctly.
It depends on player, not character. Not many players have better fundamentals than Jwong.
Who ever heard of the final boss retreating to never be heard from again? Dude was just a level 6 CPU
Lily is a monster if you know how to stock windclad properly. You can easily overpower others without burning out.
Yep. Get wind stocks while attacking.
That's the real test; getting windstocks safely, and making each of those moves count. Nothing more frustrating that getting windstock and failing to even connect with opponents to take advantage of the plus frame.
Anti-air with cHp and follow up with heavy swing, then do light wind and you automatically have two stocks.
If you opt to end your combos in medium wind (fake) a few times to bait out D.Impact then later cHp into light spire and counter their D.Impact with your own and you have 3 stocks. After that, ensure to end combos with medium swing to keep at least 2 stocks and always have pressure and projectile blow up always handy.
Signed
-A Lily Main
I was a T Hawk main in Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition. Lily is such an amazing character in SF 6 !
Great fights, Justin !
The held down version of Wing Dance is the best move in the game and I'll die on that hill 😤
😑
@@devinramsden5412 Also me... 😐
H blanka ball, wind buff eagle spike
LETS GOOOOO THAT LAST CLIP WAS TOUGH. MAKE ME WANT TO PLAY MY GIRL LILY AGAIN.
Lily is weak. Capcom gave her the best special move in the game in OD Condor Spire so they had to balance it out by making her trash in every other aspect of her game.
Lily is not nearly as bad as people make her out to be.She has alot of good stuff easily the best pokes in the game(that also doubles as an anti air and is arguably also the best in the game),her command grab can get you out of nowhere and do massive damage etc.
Lily can't have been bad, Capcom nerfed her in the rashid patch so obviously she was the best character in the game. (Kidding, obviously, back-jump EX dive was a bug, not a feature. I'm sad to see it go either way)
It isn't that she sucks. It's just that many other characters have more going on
Pretty much.
Thanks for uploading the rest of your road to Master! You da man Justin
Lily is just a really different playstyle. She doesn't have insane combo routes but she has really good pressure with her wind stocks and command grab IMO.
But everytime she charges a stock, characters can just rush her. anytime she faces projectiles she has to walk away
11:13 lmao nice one editor
Good to see Lily getting some love 🫶🏾
Lily's a grappler at the end of the day. A buff or two would be nice, but maybe she'd be a bit broken. I'd like to hear what other grapplers have that she doesn't.
Personally I feel like grapplers in this game should be spending their super bar more often. Manon players are starting to understand this. As I Zangief player I get more mileage out of using level 1-2 supers over level 3.
You're pretty much forced to use 3 level ones instead of the level 3 for grapplers.
@@LEWfromdaHOU Lily's lv 2 has stole a lot of rounds for me when people get over agressive, It's death if they bait it though.
@@DayFul I steal rounds with level 3 super 😂😂😂
@@LEWfromdaHOU That too but I hate how it can be jumped out of its one of the worst lv 3's in the game.
@@DayFul Not really. Almost everybody's level 3 can be jumped out of. Jamie's level 3 is worst.
Lily Buff List:
Ex windstock tomahawk buster is full invincible.
Or
Maker her lvl 1 invincible on frame 1 and faster to catch whiffed 4 frames.
Double stacked DP should be Invincible cause its double stacked.
Or
Lvl 1 should catch whiffed buttons cause why am I punished for reacting?! Speed that thang up!
Randomly throwing this in here but when Dhalsim Ryu and Zangief beat Lily, their lines seem to hint that she’s got more to offer in terms of story. Personally it seems like they’re hinting that she might have to meet Necalli at some point. Maybe she’s a decendant of one of the ancient warriors he fought in the past and that’s how she got her wind spirit.
No character sucks in SF6. There are some that are just better than others.
"Why would you be nervous"
Oh just playing against one of the GOATs
peeps are talking she's shit tier but she's my 1st diamond char :p
As a very beginner player in fighting games is sf6 worth buying?
yes the reason it has a large following is partially because it is very beginner friendly
@@Mindcry7181 ty for answering. Been trying mk11 but seems like waste of time not a lot of players. I haven’t played sf sense the arcade version of 2 lol
@@mikesantiago1236fighting in fighting games is only gonna get harder as time moves on, the best time to start will always be now. Better to start now than later yknow?
@@chrisscout17 very true. I just meant is it fun? I don’t mind losing lol. Rematches the same guy 30 times in mk11 just to try to beat him once.
Yes, there are a lot of tutorials and moves and World Tour mode helps you learn stuff too just buy having fun and playing through it. The game has a big following and there are plenty of other beginners to help you learn
As a Lily main, as much as i enjoyed playing her, i will honestly say yes Justin she's sucks. For starter, 1) Her OD + windstock Condor Spire can't even beat normal Blanka ball or Honda normal headbutt and DI can still punish it. 2) Her normal DP doesn't have invisibility and can only be used as anti air or combo ender. 3) Her pushback after normal throw is ridiculously far so i can't play throw loop like the other cast. 4) Her super 1 have very slow startup which is quite unreliable. 5) Some of her normals...oh my, they are just straight garbage. In the end, she have more cons than pros and i hope Capcom give her a good buff in the future.
Her poke can stop blanka ball and honda headbutt. Tomahawk buster can beat it too if done on reaction but that's hard to do.
@@LEWfromdaHOU My friend, every characters have poke that can stop Blanka ball and Honda headbutt. But writing _'used those pokes to stop the ball and headbutt'_ is a lot easier than done. I mean, you need a correct timing with those pokes and one mistake will lead to trade or counter hit. For example, go search ProblemX Lily vs EndingWalker Honda match and you'll see ProblemX never use Lily poke to stop the headbutt. He mostly used parry to stop it and the rest either he blocks or just got hit by the headbutt. Lily pokes have slow recovery frames which is not reliable to stop Blanka ball or Honda headbutt.
And i did used Tomahawk Buster to stop the ball / headbutt but that was just some coincidence. I rather used parry which is safer than risk a whiff or trade.
@@thepuppetmaster9284 You're not Problem X. You're not EndingWalker. And you're not fighting anyone close to their ability. So don't use them as a comparison. By the way you talk, you sound like you can't beat anybody. You're just so damn negative about her. How are you a Lily main?????? Don't argue over what's easy or hard with Lily. Just get good.
Lily is not good you are good you can make any character seem good even if they’re not.
Am I the only one who finds the sound of Jamie drinking infuriating? The gulp and aaah? The mechanic itself is fine but every time I hear that noise I want to smash the television.
Same feelings about the drinking in FFXVI lol.
I feel the same way with the sound of Juri chomping on her sucker after a victory, its awful
I typically hate noises like that as well, but I think since I main him I just ignore it 😅.
Never even noticed that
It's something you really notice and get pissed about when you fight against him. Like bro I'm doing my best street fighting over here and you are over there doing sweet fuckall and getting stronger for it
That Kimberly at 5:50 was pretty cracked
3:23 That cross up was insane
I mean, it's not like Capcom could even design a character JWong couldn't find a way to win at least 90% of his online matches with. ;)
Once you get a read one her one dimentional game plan, you realize that she kinda whomps.
She's good at letting the rush-down scrubs hang themselves.
That how T-hawk daughter should do.
That Dhalsim didn't give you those points because you weren't using the quest item you get from saving a rat about to be eaten by a cat at the beginning of the game. Without them you can't face the "true form" of IAMTHEFINALBOSS and get those points, Justin.
Hope you enjoyed the free points i gave you yesterday J 😂. Highly doubt i would make a compilation though because i was super free lol.
4:07 the damage this combo did was just sad. This is why shes bad
When you said you should buy lily's outfit does that mean its an unlock for actual money or game points? Miss playing street fighter and didn't realize it until now. But I am not a fan of unlocks not doable unless you pay more actual money.
From what I know the outfits so are far are all unlockable by doing world tour I think.
10:55 has me dying hahahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
im very close to giving up on this game it just seems like im getting countered at every turn
You know when you said Lily outfit 2 that reminds me I don’t even know what’s her outfit 2😂
to be fair justin wong can top-tier any character
Just like that, in especial against amateurs.
@@fozymilogranotheres a difference between good players, pro players and amateurs, the way justin plays is meant to throw you off your game like you were never prepared to be, so even good players get washed by him
Man, Justin, I am surprised that people let you get away with those Condor Spire. These are so easy to simply Drive Impact and you were just keep using them either in neutral or in cancels... it is one of the reason why I don't believe the ranks are representative anymore. Getting to master for good players is way easier in 6 than in V.
Lily is pretty easy to counter.
If and only if you know how to fight lily. Even Idom defeated by lily because he did not know this match up.
Not everyone is going to be ready for the matchup from a knowledge standpoint, especially for a less popular character like Lily. And this footage is from Justin's stream at least a few weeks ago, maybe even back in late June. So players were even less apt to be familiar.
Isn't that just because there are not that many Lily in the higher ranks, though?
So theses player might be good, but they're not used to the match-up?
you can't really di the ex version, but you can drive reversal tho
God dammit Justin, you can Daigo Parry with the shit some homeless person left outside my apartment last week. You can literally make anything work. Next video, Unpolished Turd Road to Master.
I think ppl need to cut this tier list crap out is what it really is, because we all know in the right hands any character can be deadly
Tier list merely point out which characters have more tools than others. Lily lacking a true dp, a 4 frame LP, not lk (pitiful knee), and a full unique kit vs a hampered kit. Example: Cammy's charged heavy specials vs getting stocks. Some characters are just built better than others. Lily is on the bottom end where as Luke is on the mountain top just by comparing tools.
You got my girl to Master Rank!
I have gotten hit by giefs level 3 after condor spiral SO MANY TIMES.
Back dash
A pro player against amateurs. Please guys, you can't evaluate Lily in this situation. Show me some tournament where pro players kick ass with her.
Never say never a Panda player won EVO once.
@@corvoyami3192that’s chad
@@corvoyami3192Until We See a Lily Win Though. People Will Be as Skeptical As They Please No Matter What You Say.
But I Agree Mind You.
When Blanka won a tournament people said it didn't count and that the character is still bad lmao. The FGC is a joke.
@@Sharkofspace True. The Very Few Exposure I Had to the FGC Has Been Very Hit or Miss Lately.
Aesthetically she just looks the least threatening
Most of the cast looks edgleord as f...like they've walked off a 90s hiphop video.
I use Lily and I don't see any problems with her.
I support you
Major part mark Lily as the worst character in the game is between dont have a Invisible Reversal, her better stuff need to windstocks every time because her moves are punishable witout Windstacks, the same her damage is low without Windtacks.
seems like all the stock charging characters get frowned upon by the pros but I can't blame them at the level and stakes their at. jamie and lily are fun to play but who wants to have to build up potential when you can pick a character with that ability already present? Good luck to all you pros, its hard to see you guys lose specially when your journey has been followed since the early days of learning and growing at a game.
We both know why. What modern FGC player isn't knee-jerk with their opinions and ignorant of anything past surface-level?
SF6 confirmed jank. WTF was that interaction in the corner was coo-coo. XD
Lily is underused. Very good
Just want to say that i appreciate this kind of cleaner edit much more, while i have no doubt the more heavily edited ones takes more effort, they're just too much and i felt like i couldn't even watch a match in peace
She has great pokes cover space fast and grapple death
*Reads title* looks at jwong tier list. You also ranked her low lol.
Thanks for the fun content
Bro Justin your headphones arent even plugged in 😢
10:53 ???????😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yet another demonstration that any character is good if you play it correctly. Sir, you make the gods of Teotenango proud!
Teotenango is an archaeological site in southern Mexico. A very windy cluster of pyramids atop a hill.
Justin cooking with grapplers?? Next is definitely manon
Love how Justin picks up any character and whoops most people's mains. My man
This is obvious. He is a pro against amateurs.
Lili Players: Condor Spire... Condor Spire... Condor Spire...
Me: Just Drive Impact that garbage...
Lili Players: What is going on???!!!!
Me: I won...
Lily is the worst char in this game, fact.
That's some silver rank talk..
Did lily just air parry???
I wonder if this dude is related to the ryans world kid
She´s only good looking,in terms of gameplay?............................................she doesn't have much moves
Ryu:Shoryu,Hadouken,Tatsu,the "donkey kick" the charge hadouken
Lily:Going forward move,going up move,grab...........................and a wind that i don't know what you can do with it.
Question,why the points are so special for everyone?,explain to me what you can do with those points,because you cannot buy things like in sfv like characters i think,so why so special about them?.
Lack of invincible dp... Bad crouch lp. Slow lv1 super
Of course Lily is bad, otherwise Mike Ross would be winning tournaments non-stop. She’s the only thing holding back the unstoppable force
But is Lily good or is Justin broken?
In the hands of Master Wong, isn't any character God like?
Who is the editor? We gotta stop with these kid sound effects.
If you’re Justin Wong every fighter is S tier lol
Lily's def good I think people just think she's boring so they think she must also be bad.
I dare you to try to spell out that vowel sound he keeps making.
Funnily enough, the second before the comment to subscribe I had already clicked the button.
Because people are not you.
All the characters pretty solid to me
Surprise he got on PC took them long enough they probably didn't want to deal with the quote un-quote PC woahs.
People say Lily sucks because people are not JWong. With your skills, you could take a fresh install WT avatar to masters.
She sucks because Angel and Ramon exist…you know…los mexicanos auténticos y chidos. And Lily’s design in 2023 is a big YIKES especialmente aquí en mexico :v
Blanka starts with B. Much like Ball and Block.
Why would he buy the outfits when he can make content by playing world tour
Very nice.
Cause their gameplan sucks and instead of reflecting on themselves they blame the wind.
I was gonna feel bad for Guile.. Then I remembered.. Its fxcking Guile😂 He deserves it
Thumb up for the G.O.A.T: Häagen-Dazs strawberry flavor.
Her Guessing Game is best in game!!