I would've called a tie in the first round, and second I'd give to ice-e. I really wished ice-e gave hoan space to dance instead of trying to get in the way in the second round. I felt like that was a bit disrespectful since hoan didn't do that to him. If someone gives you the floor uninterrupted, you should do the same in return.
yeah not only does it not sound like a popping track, he doesnt seem to know it. thats the all styles for ya tho ^^ part of the fun. I agree tho 1st round was hoan, 2nd icee, this was a tie.
This is the difference between individual sounds versus rhythms. Im not saying Hoan had no rhythm, but he was hitting the beats in order, like how a producer would produce the sound. From 0:59 - 1:10 was a re-arrangement of the default rhythm. From 1:16 - 1:23 it was interesting how he combined the melodies, bass, and the drums in single moves. I felt this honestly should have gone to one more round though, neither of them made it clear for me
apologizes for not being able to speak very well English hope and I understand, Hoan is dancing a song of hip hop when he's popping dancer and his style and way I dance the song very well and in my opinion Hoan win certainly am not dancer but my passion is dance in spectator mode and not only know about hip hop, I know about all dance.
Hip-hop style is a bit more free and looks less rigid than popping, but hitting beats is no easy task. I'm not a hip-hop style enthusiast but Ice-e knows what he's doing for sure. Hoan kinda fell a little short in the second song mainly because it is a complicated beat to pop to (the song goes all over the place). I felt a tie-breaker would of been good.
Yes bro because icee know I will lose therefore they start doing dance and because opponent goes lose their power but hoan is a great dancer and he knows everything.
La determinacion del ganador se resume para mi a la utilizacion de niveles(alto,medio,bajo-piso) y del espacio utilizado...mas alla de un problema de musicalidad
Hoan should have got that tbh icee always interrupts dancers and try to take attention away from them that's a dirty tactics if u ask me and I think strong rules should be made against that
Flatline Productions because we all can have musicality as beatkiller but we can’t have creative or difficult dancing moves its more difficult with both skill so icee won
The French are as easily impressed with musicality on its own. It's a given. What they care more about is mixing that musicality with a constant flow, which is much more difficult.
ice-e is fun to watch but I do not understand how can shuffle, shuffle, 360 turn, glide, glide, 180 turn, shuffle... can beat one of top ten popping dancers
@@djshumon constantly moving isn't a flow , hoans musicality was wayyy better, ice-e dance could be replayed with any music as he didn't follow it , where as hoan hit every beat of that song
I copied this from someone else in the commetns but its true... ============================================================================================ This is the difference between individual sounds versus rhythms. Im not saying Hoan had no rhythm, but he was hitting the beats in order, like how a producer would produce the sound. From 0:59 - 1:10 was a re-arrangement of the default rhythm. From 1:16 - 1:23 it was interesting how he combined the melodies, bass, and the drums in single moves. I felt this honestly should have gone to one more round though, neither of them made it clear for me ============================================================================================ Okay and now antoher good point: Most of the judges are hip hop dancers so they just feel better with hiphop dancers.... Its unfair but its true (im not saying every hiphop judge but when theres a tie most of the time they will go with their own style)
Hoan is just doin technic whereas ICEE can step any direction with technical skill and groove, very few are able to master ...sorry but ICEE is the KING !!!!
I don't understand how club dancers are battling B-boys. Need to get back to real B-boy battles. Hoan, Frantic, popping john, Marques are the top poppers in the game
Jo jo bol raha hai Hoan jitna chahiye tha....tumlogo ko next year judge bulayega ready rehna 😂😂😂😂 legends ko judge mat karo agar Hoan popping me sahi hai then ice Hip Hop me sahi hai
If all you see is beatkill ingredients from Hoan then you should learn what popping fundamentals are. Not a fan of these all style battles tbh, they're just hard to judge. How can you compare a Popper who is giving you everything a Popper should give and more to a Hip hop dancer who also gives the same in their category. That's when it comes down to what style the judges are into and things get bias from there. I'm not even sure who won this only coz I have no idea what Ice-e is doing wrong or right. I can only give my opinion on Horns performance since I'm all about popping.
Well said. IMO that's the problem with all style/cross genre battles in general. I think the mindset watching these types of battles is to not care about who won or lost, but to celebrate the fact that all these different styles exist alongside each other and can be showcased in the same space.
Wtf? really? I mean I was literally yawning (not trying to be disrespectful but it's true, I don't get this new style of mopping the floors) Hoan won so far and at the very end you can see how his rival is tryin' to get notice by the crowd 'cause he knows that if he let homie Hoan dancing alone as he should be he would be killed.
Brandon Cepeda couldn't you sense in the second round that Hoan was losing his focus? I would say the battle is a bit unfair because both songs were more hiphop/ favoring Icee. Clearly Icee had better feel of the music.
One thing I never understood about fusion concept is the arrangement of the competition and where the judges are sat. Why are they so far away from the dancers? How are they meant to see anything or pay attention to detail when certain dancers with more intricate styles like hoan beatkill? They're practically sat with the audience, it's just something I find strange
Im more into popping than hiphop but still watch hiphop dance battles.i dont realy like hoans style.reason is his to stiff and clearly no ground work.to me he doesnt have the flow icee has.but saying that i have seen some moves from hoan that has stuck deep in my memory.
Ice Had Character and more variation of moves as well as the music was both Hip Hop. Second Music, Hoan repeated same waves and same leg vibrations so you could see from crowd on second round. Ice was literally killing it with the right kind of vibe and right kind of feeling of the music. It's true hoan hit hidden beat 2 times in the music second round but that is not all it takes to beat everything Ice did -_-
+Marouane Tadlaoui Nope im totally for hoan he is my danceidol, And i know him in youtube since 4 Years. Hoan needed to win i know but nigga isnt a good word
RayRayJayJay Hoan won this one, it's so clear.. I'm not from USA I don't know why it's a bad word, 'n I said it just for like fun, "cause I've seen a video of someone who says it in a funny way
Icee is incredible, one of the top hip-hop dancers for sure. But this battle needed another round. There's no way Hoan lost that.
hoan got this
Hoan´s popping is on point and 100% clear and Ice-e moves are sick,clear and his technical was damn good!
Great battle for both!
i really wish this would of went a third round
I would've called a tie in the first round, and second I'd give to ice-e. I really wished ice-e gave hoan space to dance instead of trying to get in the way in the second round. I felt like that was a bit disrespectful since hoan didn't do that to him. If someone gives you the floor uninterrupted, you should do the same in return.
great battle!
2nd song is Tatoo from abcd 2 which is an indian movie.
hoan got this one forsure
Lol
+oscar Eduardo pls learn english before trying to flame me idiot x'D
I dont like either hoan or ice but dude you can't spell for shit jesus christ wtf is that horrid english.
In a popping battle, sure. In an all-styles battle. He loses by one round.
52 now* haahahah ... fucking noobs xd
Need 1 judge per style
I hate icee when he does that.. interrupts peoples move
I get you but you have to understand that he does it so he can understand the music rythme and how the move enteract with it
@@wrathashura1145 No, dude, he danced first don't you see that?
He do the same thing with waydi
@@rexynator_ytb Yeah
@@davidliu5948 :"(
second Song: Les Twins beatslaya tattoo remix
first song please!
first song? pleaseeeee
1er song please
!!!!!!1st and 2nd round all hip hop music
My opinion: First round = Hoan
Second = Icee
agree. I'm a big fan of Hoan and I thought he got a little bit of trouble when dealing with the 2nd track..
respect to both side.
yeah not only does it not sound like a popping track, he doesnt seem to know it. thats the all styles for ya tho ^^ part of the fun. I agree tho 1st round was hoan, 2nd icee, this was a tie.
+H Az shut ur dirty mouse and dont throw away garbage here. wtf guy
Yes
Tie for first round.
Icee won the second imo
Hoan é incrível
First track :)?
first song pls
bollywood song in 2nd round :p
first Song?
The name of the music. Pls
last track anyone o.O?
This is the difference between individual sounds versus rhythms. Im not saying Hoan had no rhythm, but he was hitting the beats in order, like how a producer would produce the sound.
From 0:59 - 1:10 was a re-arrangement of the default rhythm. From 1:16 - 1:23 it was interesting how he combined the melodies, bass, and the drums in single moves.
I felt this honestly should have gone to one more round though, neither of them made it clear for me
apologizes for not being able to speak very well English hope and I understand, Hoan is dancing a song of hip hop when he's popping dancer and his style and way I dance the song very well and in my opinion Hoan win certainly am not dancer but my passion is dance in spectator mode and not only know about hip hop, I know about all dance.
+Jhonatan Pineda Calderón No
+Ja Mason like i said he won only for cleaning the dance floor
Hip-hop style is a bit more free and looks less rigid than popping, but hitting beats is no easy task. I'm not a hip-hop style enthusiast but Ice-e knows what he's doing for sure. Hoan kinda fell a little short in the second song mainly because it is a complicated beat to pop to (the song goes all over the place). I felt a tie-breaker would of been good.
Hoan 👏👏👏🔥
Icee always keep dancing while opponents rounds and thats really annoying and disrespectful
Kelleranwärter sind überall.
Yes bro because icee know I will lose therefore they start doing dance and because opponent goes lose their power but hoan is a great dancer and he knows everything.
Moi que je penser que ce battle aller être lourd !! Je me suis tromper..
La determinacion del ganador se resume para mi a la utilizacion de niveles(alto,medio,bajo-piso) y del espacio utilizado...mas alla de un problema de musicalidad
hoan~!!!!WIN~~~~
this video has a lot of dislike...why ????
Anyone know the intro song?
DJ BIRONNEX & DJ ALIEN - HIP-HOP KILLA MIXTAPE VOL.2 - 08 TRACK 08
Hoan should have got that tbh icee always interrupts dancers and try to take attention away from them that's a dirty tactics if u ask me and I think strong rules should be made against that
Weird judgement. Hoan got this one for sure, definitely.
that wasnice of ice-e to clean the floor
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
best fugkin comment 9.5/10
Icee needs to be put in a straight jacket as soon as his turn is over with.but then again he would probably slide around and dance with his dreads 🤣
Ice e igual a Hip Hop ?
Why are there so many dislikes? However, Ice-e took that easily IMO.
crowd is dead asleep on Hoan
Flatline Productions because we all can have musicality as beatkiller but we can’t have creative or difficult dancing moves its more difficult with both skill so icee won
The French are as easily impressed with musicality on its own. It's a given. What they care more about is mixing that musicality with a constant flow, which is much more difficult.
first Music Name?
it's called b'zwax - double trouble
soundcloud.com/jtrey-1/bzwax-double-trouble
+GrowingDownUnder Fuck bironnex he realeses nothing! But my brother editet one of his music and now i have bironnex - get down ;)
+RayRayJayJay where can I get it for free mate?? :)
u mean bironnex - get down?
song 2 please
a song from beatslaya dont know the name
the name of the song is "Tattoo" haha❤
yes it is from an indian movie named abcd 2
TIE
ice-e is fun to watch but I do not understand how can shuffle, shuffle, 360 turn, glide, glide, 180 turn, shuffle... can beat one of top ten popping dancers
Icee is a top 10 hip hop freestyle dancer. Different styles. Neither is better than the other.
For me what hoan lacks is soul and flow.what you feel is how you going to move to express the music.i do like both but not a big fan of either.
@Llll Pppp yess icee is in top 10 hip hop dancer
@@zangetsu1597 Icee is a quality dancer but I thought his performance was lacking here, surprised he won
@@djshumon constantly moving isn't a flow , hoans musicality was wayyy better, ice-e dance could be replayed with any music as he didn't follow it , where as hoan hit every beat of that song
음악 난이도 ㄷ ㄷ
icee is so derespectful
how tf did hoan lose this? someone like to explain???
I copied this from someone else in the commetns but its true...
============================================================================================
This is the difference between individual sounds versus rhythms. Im not saying Hoan had no rhythm, but he was hitting the beats in order, like how a producer would produce the sound.
From 0:59 - 1:10 was a re-arrangement of the default rhythm. From 1:16 - 1:23 it was interesting how he combined the melodies, bass, and the drums in single moves.
I felt this honestly should have gone to one more round though, neither of them made it clear for me
============================================================================================
Okay and now antoher good point:
Most of the judges are hip hop dancers so they just feel better with hiphop dancers.... Its unfair but its true (im not saying every hiphop judge but when theres a tie most of the time they will go with their own style)
after watching it again i can see how icee beat hoan aha
france......so icee home ground wins automatically because he's old
Watch more battles its not about beat kill anymore it’s about dancing constantly with moves while catching up with music !
@@csandovalbosox Look more into hip hop freestyling if you don't understand how important maintaining a flow and mix of musicality is in hip hop.
damn ima say 1st round hoan 2nd round icee
when a dancer interupts u when u dance thats when u know his losing his pop lock tech was shit and didnt deserve that win
세컨라운드음악 빼고 이 대회는 호안맞춤용 노래만 나왔다고 생각함. 비트 마구자비로 쪼개는 음악들 ㅎ. 현재는 웨이브랑 풋무브가 훨 발전해서 뭔노래든 상관없겠지만.
first song : DJ BIRONNEX & DJ ALIEN - HIP-HOP KILLA MIXTAPE VOL.2 - 08 TRACK 08
Do you know where i can find the sped up version?
send me bironnex please
its bzwax- double trouble lol
Hoan is just doin technic whereas ICEE can step any direction with technical skill and groove, very few are able to master ...sorry but ICEE is the KING !!!!
Icee won? Seriously? What a joke!
Yeah that was a joke indeed. :)
Hoan 👑
its not a popping song so hoan rly had it tuff
Hoan took that
Icee disrespectful as usual
Icee-e won it for me. Hoan started off strong but didn't keep it up. Icee-e ground work is hard to beat unless you just straight up murder the beat.
Exactly what I thought ^_^
hoan
Second track is unfair
to be fair the music favored icee. but good job to both anyway
I don't understand how club dancers are battling B-boys. Need to get back to real B-boy battles. Hoan, Frantic, popping john, Marques are the top poppers in the game
Icee is a top hip hop freestyler
There's no b-boys in this video.
@@liamdonnelly1816 Boogie Frantick
@@changedman4life866 frantick is a popper like you said
@@liamdonnelly1816 not sure how old you are, but I'm 52. In my generation, poppers & breakers were B-boys. Maybe its classified different now.
Ice e actually killed him....you guys gotta respect the different styles...
your name says it all
Shut the fuck up.
When the second song start..i heard the word ''les twins''!!! Omg that was les twins music!!!😂😂😂😂
It's from a bollywood song names Tattoo....they performed on that track. U can check it out Tattoo from the movie ABCD 2
hoan took it imo
but respect ice-e.. both great!
6:22
깐쪽거리는게 점수에 반영 된다고 하면 호안이 진거 맞다.
저걸 깐족이라고 본다면 넌 호구가 맞다
Jo jo bol raha hai Hoan jitna chahiye tha....tumlogo ko next year judge bulayega ready rehna 😂😂😂😂 legends ko judge mat karo agar Hoan popping me sahi hai then ice Hip Hop me sahi hai
Just to remind people: musicality isn't everything.
Victor Gomes I agree. Hoan has crazy musicality but his moves arent as good or as creative as Icees.
This game is draw.
Hoan didn't lose the battle but lost to the song.
wtf,watch again,he hit the hidden beats
+Ricassio Lima Watch closer, he had trouble hitting them and definitely strugled in his freestyle game. 😐😑💀
struggled*
If that ain’t the realest shit I heard in a long time thank u
I know this is 6 years old but the crowd seems hella biased and ice-e was dancing during hoans round and getting in his way smh
hoan won come on
Man wtf these comments i like popping but icee killed those rounds
If all you see is beatkill ingredients from Hoan then you should learn what popping fundamentals are.
Not a fan of these all style battles tbh, they're just hard to judge. How can you compare a Popper who is giving you everything a Popper should give and more to a Hip hop dancer who also gives the same in their category. That's when it comes down to what style the judges are into and things get bias from there.
I'm not even sure who won this only coz I have no idea what Ice-e is doing wrong or right. I can only give my opinion on Horns performance since I'm all about popping.
Well said. IMO that's the problem with all style/cross genre battles in general. I think the mindset watching these types of battles is to not care about who won or lost, but to celebrate the fact that all these different styles exist alongside each other and can be showcased in the same space.
Stace Myuce bro thanks for letting my mind read that you are a goat for writing this ❤️
as a popper, I felt like ice e won.
AS A HUMAN, I FEEL YOU SHOULD LEAVE PLANET EARTH...
ok will do :)
2nd song has no strong beats, disadvantage to poppers
Wtf? really? I mean I was literally yawning (not trying to be disrespectful but it's true, I don't get this new style of mopping the floors) Hoan won so far and at the very end you can see how his rival is tryin' to get notice by the crowd 'cause he knows that if he let homie Hoan dancing alone as he should be he would be killed.
Brandon Cepeda couldn't you sense in the second round that Hoan was losing his focus? I would say the battle is a bit unfair because both songs were more hiphop/ favoring Icee. Clearly Icee had better feel of the music.
Brandon Cepeda You don't even know who Hoan is battling. You say you don't get Icee's style, but also think Hoan was better. That makes no sense.
Prediction for 2017 icee wins again LOL
hoan win
Hoan won this battle easy
One thing I never understood about fusion concept is the arrangement of the competition and where the judges are sat. Why are they so far away from the dancers? How are they meant to see anything or pay attention to detail when certain dancers with more intricate styles like hoan beatkill? They're practically sat with the audience, it's just something I find strange
hoan should have won
Im more into popping than hiphop but still watch hiphop dance battles.i dont realy like hoans style.reason is his to stiff and clearly no ground work.to me he doesnt have the flow icee has.but saying that i have seen some moves from hoan that has stuck deep in my memory.
Ice-e was a bit disrespectfull imo.
smh.
Ice Had Character and more variation of moves as well as the music was both Hip Hop. Second Music, Hoan repeated same waves and same leg vibrations so you could see from crowd on second round.
Ice was literally killing it with the right kind of vibe and right kind of feeling of the music. It's true hoan hit hidden beat 2 times in the music second round but that is not all it takes to beat everything Ice did -_-
I really have no Idea why the battle music all sucks in france
lame
Icee dança mais que hoan nunca uma sacanagem isso que fizeram.
I mean wt hell, Ice was not even doing popping..what kinda of this battle is
ice copy coreografy popping summer 2016
i hate icee ..
모하노 레게 바닥청소하남
박공주 가만히 있으면 반이라도가요~
Ice-e won !! .. REALLY NIGGAH?!
*Nougat we dont like racism ;)
RayRayJayJay So am I .. Ice-e won "cause the judges had been racist against Hoan, "cause he's Korean.
+Marouane Tadlaoui Nope im totally for hoan he is my danceidol, And i know him in youtube since 4 Years. Hoan needed to win i know but nigga isnt a good word
+Marouane Tadlaoui he only won because he cleaned the dance floor
RayRayJayJay Hoan won this one, it's so clear.. I'm not from USA I don't know why it's a bad word, 'n I said it just for like fun, "cause I've seen a video of someone who says it in a funny way
Hoan was weak in this one.
Hoan got worked, he cant groove.