The Rise & Fall of Arcade1Up
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Do you guys agree that there'll be no new titles for '24, or will we see something new this fall?
I kind of have that feeling if no new investors invest in arcade 1 up within the next few months, I see them filing bankruptcy and just getting out of business. The arcades they made from 2018-2023 were awesome and I have a lot of them myself, but in the end, they are a novelty nostalgia product for which the market is quite small. All the Walmart's in my area here got rid of all Arcade 1 up items. We all know if the itch comes to play, we can play these games anywhere on any system.
We'll probably just have to wait and see
I'll always be grateful to A1Up for trying to serve our market.
They're not perfect, but where else could you get a TRON or T2 cab? They make a lot of stuff that's pretty dang cool, and I do hope they can continue doing so.
Funny thing is I just sat down to put together my second 1up cab and this came on to the top of my list on UA-cam.
Now that's funny.
I really liked the Partycades and wish they made more titles in Partycade form.
For those of us with limited space, it was the perfect way to have our own retro arcade. 😊
I'm glad you brought that up - it seems like those partycades were a great idea. If they could get the pricing right (say $249) you'd think they could sell a mountain of them.
Which is your favorite partycade?
Probably Ms. Pac-Man actually! It looked and played great. Then Defender (of course).
Exactly
The whole point of home arcading, which 1up and Atgames target, is to make scaled down (weight, size) versions that play the same, using original game code (roms), with authentic reproductions of cab design, Art and controls.
Like you said, early releases failed on many points, but steadily improved.
Commercial arcade game collectors and restorers laugh at the 1ups of the world, but only a small number of people want to wrestle the size, weight, and tech complexity of restoring and maintaining vintage boards and monitors.
Coupled with aftermarket upgrades for controls and add on, 1up invented a new market.
I have the SuperPacman, Defender 40th and Ms Pac 40th Black Partycades.
They are near perfect form factor for home arcade rooms, home theater rooms of typical homes that don't have space for more than 2 or 3 full cabs
Great post Alex. Different strokes for different folks. A1up definitely has a place in the video game world, they just need to find their balance.
1) Lower the price 2) Provide option for basic 3) Provide option for empty game cabinet with either sticks, steering or guns and let player use for their homebrew game 4) Start onboard indie game that are popular or work with indie developers for their own cabinet version with reasonable price 5) Work on providing spare parts
All good ideas... but don't hold your breath.
Nice to hear some solid numbers reported.
Also enjoyed the Cornercade and PDubs shoutouts!
Thanks for making great content, entertaining and informative as always
Hey, thanks for checking it out!
Ironically a lot of businesses are feeling the effects of inflation and no one having money for entertainment anymore. Especially for 1up for raising it's pricing.
A1up's pricing strategy has always been bizarre - wild fluctuations in pricing in general, and always high initial asking price.
Hi JDV, nice summary of the history of A1up. Covid def made the home arcade space explode. The community asked for XL's for the successful cabinets of the past and they just won't do it. If A1up was a band they would be Dire Straits, looking at who is running the show there I have little hope of a turn around.
One solution could be a multi-cade approach, at least in terms of getting a new cab/title into the big box stores. It seems that they are now totally dependent on a box store pre-buying units, which if true severely limits new potential cabs.
There is only so many classic arcade games, and for the most part they all have been released into some type of mini-cab.I can't see 1up surviving too much longer without re-inventing themselves into some other type of company or finding other untapped markets.
I tend to agree - if they want to sell in numbers like they did for the first 5 years of their existence, then they need a "sea-change" as they say.
A1Up did some great things for the retro community. But times have changed & selling cabinet furniture is no longer viable. They need to move into the online software game. Buying a new cabinet every time I want a new game, makes little sense anymore.
A1Up needs to reinvent themselves. One click to buy a game is where it’s at these days.
Yeah but the consoles and PCs have already done that to death. There is something to be said about having physical arcade cabinets in your space.
@@Madlou I hear you - there’s something to be said about nostalgia.… but the market is speaking to them .. these machines are not flying off the shelves & many cabinets in stores are heavily discounted. That has to say something ..
@@MadlouThe excitement around the MVC fighting collection would beg to differ
@@potatochipz3097 Good point
I have been arguing for a la carte buying options for years for A1up, similar to what the iiRcade did, and what AtGames is doing now for the ALP/4KP. Having 14 games (or less) per cab is terribly wasteful in any event - time to evolve.
Great video!
Thank you brother!
It’s a shame I like them for what they were as I myself do not want full-size cabinets. They are too heavy required too much work and knowing me, I won’t even want them in a few years. For me, they were more decor as most of them only got paid when company was around anyway. The last cabinets they were actually not so bad. The only cabinet I find myself playing with my son was star wars.
17" cabs are completely fine for vertical games. Would have been nice to see larger screens on the shooters like Big Buck & T2. I think the quality of the latest gen is where it should have been right from the start.
I bought a Ms. Pacman partycade on a qvc special for only $199 free shipping a few years ago. 👍👍
I got that one too! But sadly, no one else will - those partycades are never coming back, and certainly not for $199
i'm still proud of my tmnt arcade1up cabinet!
I used to collect real machines, but after moving Ill never own another real arcade. Permeantly ruined my back in that move . Arcade 1 up i can move myself love that because i move frequently 😢
Well that's a great point - the lighter design will def appeal to a lot of people simply because it is easier to move.
I own 15 dedicated machines and i've never blown my back... How old are you? Lol
I'm 56 , pull a neo geo 4 slot from a basement ( called a big red) then tell me how you feel . I'm 5 11 180
@@RedakaiCity I'm 56 but I was 46 at the time it was a Big red Neo Geo 4 slot It weighs more then any other arcade machine I've ever worked on
There are PLENTY of people who have difficultly moving a 3/4 scale cab. Which is why there is a decent chunk of people who liked the riser design.
I was hoping for the grid arcade one of the first online/system link games
Love my Tempest, great product!!
Good insight as usual. When Time Crisis dips in price, it’ll be my last A1U machine. Whatever happens, happens - I’m happy with the machines I have. Last holiday, I sold my modded original Gen 1 SF2 and paid $50 more for the beautiful Deluxe version - I kinda miss acquiring new machines, so TC will have to be it 😅
TC's on my list too... very likely the last gun game from A1up - and thanks!
I own 3 cabinets currently. I love the product and have the space for 10 to 12 of them. The problem for me is that I remember them being around $300 in the beginning. I'm not spending $700 per cabinet going forward.
$700 was also a tough pill to swallow, especially for cabs with 4 or less games.
Waiting to see Evil Genius’ thoughts on that new NBA Slim 😂
Here ya go! ua-cam.com/video/mgmt8Wv-yOI/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Some people bought their first when they first came out and are already bored through and through but I got my first A1UP in 2021. I have 3 now and that is all the space I have for them in my current house. would buy more otherwise and if the pricing (in Finland) wasn’t an outrageous 600-900€ per cab for the new ones. I understand there are different shipment fees etc added to drag them across Europe but still. A bit too much.
Pricing has been a challenge for a while now, and pricing in Europe even worse. Hopefully A1up can right the ship and getting pricing down to boot!
I’ve have a number of these cabs and have been happy with them. They’re not perfect but for the price point they’re quite good. What has turned me off of them is the utter lack of titles for new cabs. Pac Man after Pac Man cabs and other repetitive games had me in a position where I lost interest. If they start putting out a better variety of games I will likely come back.
Thanks for watching! And I think that's about how most people feel - without new titles or some additional firmware, there's little to be excited about. But judging by the interest in some of those leaked cabs, you gotta think that people still want new products from them....
Honest opinion: anyone can compete with Hori, anyone can compete with the absurdly overpriced arcade sticks, countercades and couchcades made by other brands. 1UP stepped into a gap in the market: the gap is still there. Hori R.A.P. is still an outrageous ripoff that makes everything else seem affordable.
I own 7 cabs and am done with buying them unless a stand up Spy Hunter is released, then that will be my last one.
Can't lie, that leaked SPY HUNTER cab did look tasty....
That's the 1 real cabinet I have. Bought it back in the 90's when nobody wanted them.
Great informative video, just subbed. Not sure how I missed this channel, good stuff. Sold 5 of my cabinets over the last few years. The one cabinet I won’t part with though is Dragons Lair. I’ve got too much history with that one, and my friends brother did the voice of Dirk the daring at the time. Was a memorable time to say the least back then, as that was one of my favorite machines growing up. There was nothing else like it at the time. Always wanted that cabinet as a kid and to me I think it’s one of the better jobs arcade 1up has done. Space ace was also a big one for me.
I’m wondering the same about some of these becoming collectors items in the future if arcade 1up goes under. Spy Hunter would be very hard for me to pass up as well. Another big one!
Hey, welcome to the channel, glad you found us! DRAGON'S LAIR is one I'm always on the prowl for.... just can't do it for $500 as I already have great versions on the iiRcade. But if I find it for $400....
Its sad what arcade1up has become in less than 2 years. They were banging out new titles every 2-3 months and allowing people to affordably build a home arcade. Sure they weren't top quality, but that didnt stop your game room from looking and sounding great. But they have turned into a shell of their former selves. I honestly dont expect a new title to ever come from them under their current ownership.
That pretty much nails it.
I've got 11 love um just need dragons lair and Star Wars then I'm done but bless a1up❤
That's kinda where I'm at too!
I beat Dragon's Lair last week, it's a difficult game but was certainly worth it
@@soaktinbleech1106 oh I've been playing dragons lair off and on ,space ace for got to be 35 yrs now no 40 , had a job as a tween at an arcade. Sweet nostalgia 😎
@@RubyJones-zj4fu I envy you, getting to see it in its prime, I'm only 21 so unfortunately I wasn't around soon enough to get to see those days myself
However I absolutely love everything about the 80s and I wish I got to live those days
I'm working on getting the Dragon's Lair cabinet and the Mortal Kombat deluxe cabinet
Oh yeah, a very hard game... of course, SPACE ACE is even harder!
I think that a1up should do a rerun of cabs people want ie Tron stand up outrun and get more of them into Europe
I guess means no Robotron 😢
Yeah, I think any of those leaked cabs are now a very distant memory for A1up. Which sucks, but as this newest announcement of yet another re-tread of NBA Jams indicates, they're just recycling PCBs at this point.
When Arcade1up started they stated their business expectancy was 5 years. It has been over 5 years now. Unfortunately the end is near. I'm satisfied with the 15 Arcade1up machines and 2 full-size arcade machines I own. They all still look new and work well.
I mean, that's probably the most realistic way to look at it - they made some very cool products, and will continue to make a selection of them, but probably nothing new (or very far between).
My last cab I purchased from them was the Street Fighter Big Blue cab in which they never fixed the audio issues on it, they did a firmware update, which created more issues.
They never really invested in the cabs in making them the best, just fast cash grabs, and folks finally ae waking up to their schemes.
Tom, I think respecting the customer did come pretty low on their list of priorities. Still waiting for spectate mode and other fixes to known bugs. I mean, there is always going to be a push/pull between lower priced cabs and quality, but some of these firmware fixes should have been relatively cheap to fix, and just never were.
Great video JDV! Love the overview of how A1U grew up and are unfortunately are dying. They have to change up their offerings to become relevant again. Both High and Low in offerings.
I just wonder if they have the reserve capital to make any moves at all. Seems like that at this point they're completely dependent on getting a pre-order from a big box store... who unfortunately don't seem as excited for SPYHUNTER or AvP as we are!
Want to come on this Sunday's livestream and talk Arcade1up? Would love to discuss this some more if possible.
Hey thanks for the invite! Sadly my internet signal is so janky it's all but impossible to do a live stream. Looking at getting a starlink, so hopefully in the future!
Starlink was a game on the Switch, PS4 and Xbox One. One of them has Star Fox in it.
I believe John D mentioned that he expected 2 new releases, but didn't necessarily seem that excited about them.
Pretty clear it'll be 2 XLs, likely a CLASS OF '81, GOLDEN TEE, or (long shot) MK II.
@@evilgeniusentertainment If that is the case I will buy them... I'll take an XL SF2, MK2, and Class of 81 before they go if they put them out.Right now I want to upgrade to Deluxe, but, if they put out an XL...I'd much rather have that. So for now, I'm buying nothing. If they file bankruptcy, I'll pick up 3-4 deluxe cabs before they are gone. I really like the lack of riser plus the tilted screen and decks on the new ones.
Oh, the new Deluxe cabs are sweet - but 2 years too late it seems.
Lol.. The 2000 people in this community think they can keep a whole company a float..... Lol the reason they died(if they're even dying) is because they aren't main steam enough....soooooo many people don't even know these things exist, this community is crazy 🤪
I agree that there are still large untapped segments of the population who has no idea these things exist. To their credit, A1up did try to expand their audience, but they did it the NBA Jam and BLITZ cabs, which perhaps wasn't the best return for the money.
@@evilgeniusentertainment NBA JAM they did, which is why we see so many versions...NFL blitz they didn't, which is why we won't see another version.... You know the formula
When there was "free" money being given out in 2020 (for us US folk at least) I'm sure it was easier to put some of that into something cozy like these toy cabs. Otherwise, it's just the illusion of nostalgia. They're too small, don't always look right and in some cases, can't handle the game they're packaged with, especially for the price they've ballooned to. By the time you've bought a room full of these, you could have bought 2 to 3 really nice actual cabinets, instead of buying, effectively the "kit car" of arcades.
I don't know, I love the various Pac-Mans I've owned: compact, good screens, clean, easy on power consumption, etc. In fact, I even like the one with risers - makes them so much easier to move (a huge factor if you live in an apt). Also, they've out many cabs you'll never find in the real world in good shape (TRON being a great example). There's a lot to be said about them in the positive, and depending on use scenario, are preferable to real arcades.
Those crazy 60% sales killed A1Up. It's done and over.
The debacle of BLITZ, SIMPSONS, and T2 really really hurt them. I don't it's "over" per se, but I do think they will, essentially, simply become a company that makes Pac-Man variants and infinity tables.
I'll give my obligatory comment here. You cant discount how bad the economy is. Going dormant in 2024 may prove to be very wise. Not sure they've made bad decision after bad decision to bring their demise, I think the economy is the lead factor
The economy is absolutely a factor... but their pricing was out of wack almost from the get go. Wildly up and down pricing, and nearly always had the pricing too high upon release. The poor economy has exacerbated that issue mightily.
I'm amazed that there are so many of you guys willing to pay for this stuff: the fundamental contraction we all live with is, "my laptop computer can already emulate that" -often enough, "my mobile phone can emulate that". In that context, every product is a niche product.
Then you must be too young to understand the draw of having a home arcade.
Playing on a cab - particularly 2 player games - completely different experience IMO. So too are the games with unique controls like TRON or STAR WARS. And of course they are a sort of playable art-works. It's def a niche segment of video gaming, but one that's interesting... at least to me!
You are comparing apples to oranges. What really sucks for you is you don't know the magic of the old school arcades.
A computer or cellphone isn't coming near the experience one would get stepping up to controls on a cab. A1Up give you that experience.
Even though I have been personally done with purchasing their cabs(just my choice), I enjoy my 4 cabs I've collected through the years. Got 3 out of the 4 on sale. Every one of my particular cabs will bring a great experience with those particular games.. with the exception of maybe Paperboy. A1Up may not always get a cab correct but it is the best way to play most of these arcade games unless you have the real og cabs.
Multicads are cool but many games controls will not be accommodated because most likely it will have a classic 6 button layout or no trackball or spinner or StarWars or Tron or Mortal Kombat layout etc etc. I can go on n on but .
I have emulators on my pc..my laptop..my og Xbox..ras pie etc..Doesn't come close to standing in front of a cab...especially a cab with proper controls(layout) for it's game(s).
Im afraid your correct..
I don't want to be... that 720 leak pic was amazing
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@@MasterMayhem78 who gives a damn
The countercades unfortunately went downhill in quality with those second gen games.
Yeah, I was surprised when the took away the lit marquees.
Buy you a coffee? Are you being serious? 40k subs and you can't afford your own coffee? If not maybe lay off the toys for a bit
Not sure you realize how little yt pays, but yeah - buy me a coffee dang it! :)
Arcade1up apppears to be done like IIracade. Its a shame. I have most of their cabs. Plus I loved watching all you Arcade UA-cam gurus preview and review Arcade1up stuff.
I love my iiRcade... sniffles. Well, they're not "done" but they are likely done being innovators.
Sadly the writing has been on the wall since John and Scott left. The company has had cashflow problems and has tightened their belts. They were no-shows at CES because they have nothing new in the pipeline. Golden Tee Deluxe was just another rehash and X-Men 97 was an afterthought because Di$ney asked them to make one for a promotional tie-in. Here we are going into July with no new announcements. Likely we will get Ms. Pac-Man XL at Costco in the fall only because they placed that PO back in January. All the tea leaves read that they are looking to liquidate their inventory as much as possible so they can balance the sheets to put the company up for sale. Maybe ATgames will buy them or maybe John D’s Media1up will become the new Arcade1up.
I'm very interested in what John D has in store. And I think the company has more or less been up for sale since late last year.
Absolute garbage products. Always failing, cheaply made, overpriced. The idea was excellent but the quality was terrible.
I think it's a cab by cab thing really. Some better then others for sure. My TRON died after 4 months of barely being used, while I literally beat the crap out of Pac-Mania, practically daring it to die, but it keeps on ticking.
@@evilgeniusentertainment I went through FOUR street fighter cabs. Two were DOA and the third had lines in the screen. The fourth one had a dead control panel. Decided to try a Pac Man cab. Worked great for two months.....then no power whatsoever.
I can only speak from my experience. I am glad that you found a rare working one though.
I've been lucky RE the various Pac-Man cabs I've owned - they've all been pretty good. I'd double check your power supply on your Pac-Man - I've found that sometimes those bricks fry out.
What would you like arcade 1 up to sell you expensive joystick buttons as the real arcade machines that will cost you over $3,000 go try to buy the original arcade machines like Donky Kong that were released in the year 2000 as the MS Pac-Man galaga Pac-Man pixel their still new but will cost you $3,300
Well... at the very least I'd like them to sell replacement parts for their cabs.
@@evilgeniusentertainment I don’t see any reason for replacement parts since my arcade 1 ups haven’t broke they stayed fixed since 2018 -2024 but the original arcade machines are the ones that needs replacement parts they break over and over like my teenage mutant ninja turtles that had 3 joystick can’t move the turtles and the buttons can’t use them my Pac-Man cocktail second joystick doesn’t work broken needs to be fixed the only arcade machines that never got broken joystick is Ms Pac-Man galaga 20th anniversary bought it brand new abd the original Ms Pac-Man that did break just not the joystick but no arcade 1 up ever broke neither has my Ms Pac-Man galaga 20th anniversary arcade machine that were made in the 2000s are worth buying if their sold to you new I’m glad arcade 1 up is here I’m tired of taking my original arcade machines to get fixed
Good riddance to bad rubbish! Arcade 8-Up was for the folks who wanted a very limited MAME board and cardboard cutout midget units. Nice if the player is 5 years old, but all of it was trash tier.
Like every innovation there comes a tipping point. A1UP has not done enough to sustain. Just like iiarcade, tiny arcades, my arcade, basic fun arcade classics, numbskull, etc.
It's a tough market, ever more so for sure. I do think the various "gate" issues for various generations - bad screens, bad speakers, bad marques - hurt a lot too. Poor QC combined with design defects (like poor button placement on Simpsons as an example) did a lot to hurt their reputation.
I feel A1Up are a done deal. Shout out to them for stepping in when it seemed no one else would. No one does what A1Up does. Multicads are multicads and not the same.
I purchased 4 cabs since the start of the company and enjoy them still. I just new to pick n choose with these cabs. Wait for sales etc etc. So my experience(s) were relatively good to very good with them to be honest.
Million dollar idea that just wasn't executed very well some of the time.
Hopefully they keep going.I enjoyed waiting / seeing what cabs are coming etc.. But if not then maybe someone or something else will pop up into the retro scene...you never know...
Oh, the hobby will def stick around if A1up goes under, but it'd be a lot better with them in it for sure
Arcade1UP fall from poor quality cabs, poor customer services, and poor mismanagements.
And very high and expensive prices.
They just look and play ugly. In store they are just badly packed and usually damaged. This is a direct to order/preorder thing you handle online or through secondary online partners. This is such a niche of niche product market it only made money because of Panda Mike. If what you wanted was a cheap garbo home arcade, that's what you get, but that's probably what you could afford.
Who the hell is Panda Mike????
A1Up sold junk, plain and simple. The cheapest product, made the cheapest way with the cheapest materials. Every single one of the cabinets I had from that company was trash. The only thing that I will give A1Up credit for is wising me up and sending me in the direction of better quality cabs.
Many of us jumped on these the minute they came out. There was nothing else really on the market with the flashy nice artwork and at a $299 price, it seemed affordable. Then you start to really take a look at the construction along with the complete greed of price hike up and start to lose interest. Especially if you’re trying to play a fighting game. That thing on a frikin riser is gonna practically tip over! I’ve already sold 5 of mine, but will keep dragons lair. That cabinet they did a good job with and that machine holds a special place for me. Attack from mars also as it gets alot of mileage around here. I also got them both for a little over $300 each on wayfair. They aren’t worth anything more as far as I’m concerned. I regret selling my original Donkey Kong Jr cabinet when I moved. Still worked and was the 2 in 1 board with Donkey Kong in it as well. My Primal Rage machine took a shit and ended up sitting in my garage for years. Had to sell it too. Nothing beats a real cabinet and none of these atgames or arcade 1ups will compete
Then go pay $3,000 for a Pac-Man pixel arcade machine I own arcade machines and arcade 1 up you shouldn’t complain if they aren’t charging you 3,000
@@bryancook6345 Yea, you’re right. I’ve owned both real arcade cabs and 1UPs and some of these newer 1UPs are just fine. They are affordable. I was able to get class of 81, mars attacks pinball and dragons lair for around $300 each off wayfair. Using 10% off during sale and then getting a discount ontop of that for any imperfections they had. At least Arcade1up was trying to reignite the arcade and what many people got to do turning bedrooms into arcades is very cool! Dragons Lair is a very sweet cab from them. Used to play the original back in the arcades and it did give me that feel again playing on this cabinet. Sure I can play dragons lair on my handheld, coinopsx and tv, but it’s more to that. Some of us want that actual feeling what it was to play on the actual cabinet again, and arcade 1up can deliver that on some of their cabinets. I know the wood is not the same and doesn’t weigh a ton, but in some ways that can be a hassle. I’ve dealt with them before and it’s just not practical for what we’re trying to do. I can pick up my mars attacks pinball and dragons lair and move them into another room by myself without having to use a dolly. I will always prefer the originals of course, but these can be very cool and look very nice when setting up a game room.
The Atari 50th cab is awesome wtf you talking about
@@bryancook6345Atgames arcade cabs are much better than arcade1up
Still holding out hope for ms pacman (blue) deluxe, centipede deluxe, robotron/smash tv, street fighter alpha/3rd strike, and Tekken...
The Ice Cold Beer ganee woukd be nice
ROBOTRON/SMASH TV would for sure be a buy for me. Great games with a (kinda) unique control setup.
@@evilgeniusentertainment Tbh We should've had those games on the Midway Legacy(s). They teased with letting us twin stick play root beer tapper. Just take away Paperboy etc and 👍
1up is and was always trash... Nobody
Listened to me for years. Then again I own the original terminator 2 , NBA Jam, MK 2 and many other original dedicated cabinets.