The previous model, the 504, also came in a similar three row seat config - sold in the UK as the 504 Family Estate. My dad had one and I learned to drive in it. Once I'd learned to reverse that bus round a corner, nothing else seemed scary to drive! And I remember being very popular for giving friends a lift back from the pub
One of my fellow boy scout troop members father's had a pair of Peugeot 505's - one gas, the other Turbo Diesel. For one of France's more "normal" car marques, it had it's quirks. The most unusual was that the deshboard turn signal arrows both blinked when you used your indicators - they didn't indicate which direction you activated, only that you activated them and there was a light bell "ting" while the directionals were blinking.
That directional setup was common on a lot of European cars, at least in the late 50s through the early 80s. My family owned Peugeots, Renaults, Simcas, Volkswagen buses, and 2 Fiats, and all of them were like this.
I got 2 Peugeots but always wanted a 505 wagon, it's such a practical car it makes you question what went wrong with the auto industry going from that thing that can fit 8 people in it, any size or lenght of load in the back, and now you just have... SUVs that have zero practicality and just take up space. Unfortunately even the regular sedans are hard to find now, but the wagons are basically impossible.
Very cool car! I had a 405MI16, and must say Peugeot's are criminally underrated automobiles. They were very well engineered vehicles, as good as a Mercedes of the day easily.
Back in the day when they were selling these in America, they were considered pretty dull and average, until you took one on a bad road. Then they were amazing.
505s used to be everywhere here in Ireland, the farmers all loved the pickups. Rare to see one now, rust got them all. I always thought they were good looking vehicles
This is a fabulous car. Any wagon rocks! Millions of these things are still in use today in North Africa with zero maintenance. Wagons are so much better than any SUV
It called in Europ...Peugeot 505 familiale ( always has the 3 rows of seats). Very popular back in the days. The " Stationwagons" are shorter indeed. Very popular cars, back in the days, aspecialy with the famous Diesel engines. The engines lasted forever. A lot of this car been transferred to Nord and Mid Africa and are still in use ! The previous models, the 504 and the older 404 did existed also as "familiale" My Principal did drove a maroon 404 famillale.( bye Jove...where is the time??)
Never seen one of these in US. French embassy here in Malaysia had one unit in 1990s with diplomatic plates l think it was the PRV V6 engine because driver took great delight in running down BMW E30s. He tangled with our BMW 3.0Si but only once!! When l was living in Raleigh, NC(1997-2003)there was a 'shop owner Richard Hargrove l think his name. He shop was always packed wit 505s and he had at least 5 or 6 Citreon SMs strewn about, 2 were Euro spec. I recall his personal car was a 505 Turbo with the thrashy ex-Simca engine not this timing belt Douvrin unit.
It's going to be Bosch LU2-Jetronic if this is an American spec car. The Douvrin is a tough little engine from what I've heard, and it's probably helped by the fact that it was designed by a Formula 1 engineer. Heated seats are very common as the French really like their little conveniences.
As a French, i can say it’s definitely not common for us, ours 505’s in Europe wen’t with the minimum (power steering was an option even on Diesel versions, just anightmare to park). The thing is, for the American market they decided to add a lot of options to suit more the tendencies of the country.
@@keita3434 As an American, I must say that Peugot does not suit the tendencies of our country. This is self-evident, because I haven't seen many since the 1980s. They seem to be more suited to China, Russia, and South America. Personally, I wouldn't buy any brand from the merger group.
I have owned several Peugeots. 1959 403 US model, 1960 403 Canadian model, 61 404 sedan, 68 404 wagon, 72 504 sedan, and a 75 diesel wagon. All tough and reliable but rust was an issue. On the two wagons I owned they had 4 coil springs in the back, there was a double spring base on each side so one spring was a bit ahead of the axle, the other a bit behind. The 505 wagon said it could haul almost a ton in the back and I believe it. Cinderblocks, cement bags, whatever, it would just settle down a little bit but I never had it bottom on the rubber stops. I was saddened to see they had gone to cam belts and I understand they still use them. I have no idea of the quality or reliability of the current ones since they opted out of the US. I believe the main reason they failed here is their support dwindled down to nothing. You used to be able to get any part in a couple of days, then in the late 70s it got longer and longer. I had to trade my 504 wagon in 1982, mechanically it still ran great but the body was literally falling apart.
@@2stroketurbo We also owned 3 Renaults. A 1970 R10 that I got for $10 (needed overhauling) I got a cylinder piston kit for $99, had the crankshaft machined, assembled it, and ran it for many years. Next was a 1971 R16, one of the first hatchback designs ever in 1964. Front wheel drive, torsion bar suspension all round with immensely long travel at each wheel. The interior could be arranged in 7 ways for various cargo needs. We moved our waterbed in it. We got it used in 1983 with 149,000 miles on it. It used the same engine as the Lotus Europa. The used car dealer who sold it got us in contact with the original owner who had lots of parts. We got most of them including the same Weber carburetor that was used on the Lotus. I swapped it out and it would chirp the tires in the first 3 gears. Best car ever on long trips, the only car that rode better that I've been in was a Citroen DS21 Pallas. If we could get another of these we would do it in a heartbeat The last one was a 1983 Renault Alliance. We had it for 17 years, never rusted, gave almost no trouble, but my daughter wrecked it. I don't know if they are as good today. The 1.7 liter engine for the Alliance wasn't a great engine IMHO.
I remember these! And I remember the commercials where they touted how much safer their wagons supposedly were because the rear passengers faced away from the crumple zones while most 3 row wagons had the third row facing backwards.
II really wanted a 504 diesel wagon. That would have been around 1981. As with most French, it had marvelous suspension. But, when I went to open the hood, and the plastic handle broke off in my hand, I realized it had poor quality materials. They were $12,000 and I did t have that kind of money at the time. Just as well.
These Peugeots sold quite well here. Nowadays these cars are rare as rooster's eggs. Their reputation for toughness made them extremely popular in Africa - hence all second hand cars got exported to that continent. Virtually none is left in NL....
A friend of mine had a '59 403 sedan back in college. It too had the crossflow engine (carburated), with hemi combustion chambers. The drive line was also via torque tube, and the odd-looking rear end was because it didn't have a hypoid differential -- it was worm drive! VERY hard to push start! Quite a nice car, and a lot smaller than this one looks.
Meanwhile they are extremely rare in Europe cause almost all of them made their way to western Africa or rusted away. Except for the rust, they are almost a tough as the W123 Mercedes which was also very popular in Afrika.
@@2stroketurbo Never have seen one in all my travels around the USA, they may have been only offered in France. I forgot to mention there were also pickups offered by Peugeot dating back to the 403 and up to the 505 series, and if you "Google" 505 pickups there'll be pictures of a prototype double cab-looking a bit like a Subaru BRAT.
The 505 was the last Peugeot to be properly designed for the African's market. They were terribly over built to last through extreme abuse (Not really rust though!) The wagon was even better for durability, Peugeot's was extremely conservative in the way they designed cars, wagons were meant as workhorse, they had reinforced rear ends (Solid axle isntead of independent) and basically custom frame. They ride worse but they handle fine, especially since they all came standard with LSDs. I live in France, but I'd love to import one back from the US, they have become rare and expensive (All of them were mostly sent to Congo and others) and the US spec ones were all almost top-spec models. I have never ever seen one with A/C or heating seats! Edit: In fact, if your customer is ever looking to sell this one, I could be intrested
SW 8 should mean Super Wagon 8 (seater) here in South Africa they were called the Super 7 (7 Seater) was commonly used as taxis from rural to the City👍👍👍
@@ulrich_badmecanique Not disputing what you saying from that side of the world...but here its a badge on left side of the tail gate or rear access door ...what ever it can be termed so there fire my response is such✌✌✌
How come you've got so many old interesting cars to service? I have just subscribed so maybe I am missing something, understanding you are specialized in two stroke engines (so de facto old cars). By the way, the 505 as well as the 504 were outstanding reliable cars too (except the weak driving shaft U joints). There is still a lot of them in Africa, mostly taxi cars. Thanks for this nice share.
Thanks for subscribing. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only mechanic left that can work on old cars, no one else wants to. Most of society does not care. A lot of good old mechanics have passed on. I have 5 years with the work lined up As of today.
I'm sure those trapezoidal headlight surrounds with the dumb US mandated square headlamps embedded in them were all one piece in Europe, with much better halogen bulbs in them. If it were my car I would investigate getting the Euro-spec light assemblies shipped in from France.
Per **** as un petit peu = a little bit, like your French. Note it has a hypoid diff, so if you topped up the oil on that I hope you used the right oil. If LSD/Posi may also be special oil. The diesel was the one to have but I doubt if the American market back then would have been very receptive. As said they have mostly been spirited of to Africa. Tough old beasts.
The Renault 2.2 is an interference engine, Peugeot fanboys prefer the pushrod hemi 1.9. smoother and wants to rev unlike Renault or Chrysler 2.2 which make unholy noises after 4 grand.
@@osvaldovidela6466 1971cc equates to 1.9 litre,not a 2.0 in any way.Sort of like Ford fan boys calling the pushrod 5.0 when it was not....4.9 did not sound as cool. Hell, Mercedes called out in badging 560; engine was a 5.5.
The station wagons Peugeot's where termed Break,Familialein some markets the 404 504 & 505 are on a longer wheel base and the rear suspension was of a double coil spring on each wheel the station wagons always overlaped the next model. SW8 was for the American market (SW8 Station Wagon 8 Seater)
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i would drive this instead of some horrible SUV any day..
Hear, hear!
Just get a 1980s Volvo 244 wagon, or BMW 7 series wagon, or something.
The previous model, the 504, also came in a similar three row seat config - sold in the UK as the 504 Family Estate. My dad had one and I learned to drive in it. Once I'd learned to reverse that bus round a corner, nothing else seemed scary to drive! And I remember being very popular for giving friends a lift back from the pub
One of my fellow boy scout troop members father's had a pair of Peugeot 505's - one gas, the other Turbo Diesel. For one of France's more "normal" car marques, it had it's quirks. The most unusual was that the deshboard turn signal arrows both blinked when you used your indicators - they didn't indicate which direction you activated, only that you activated them and there was a light bell "ting" while the directionals were blinking.
That directional setup was common on a lot of European cars, at least in the late 50s through the early 80s. My family owned Peugeots, Renaults, Simcas, Volkswagen buses, and 2 Fiats, and all of them were like this.
I got 2 Peugeots but always wanted a 505 wagon, it's such a practical car it makes you question what went wrong with the auto industry going from that thing that can fit 8 people in it, any size or lenght of load in the back, and now you just have... SUVs that have zero practicality and just take up space.
Unfortunately even the regular sedans are hard to find now, but the wagons are basically impossible.
Very cool car! I had a 405MI16, and must say Peugeot's are criminally underrated automobiles. They were very well engineered vehicles, as good as a Mercedes of the day easily.
Back in the day when they were selling these in America, they were considered pretty dull and average, until you took one on a bad road. Then they were amazing.
505s used to be everywhere here in Ireland, the farmers all loved the pickups. Rare to see one now, rust got them all. I always thought they were good looking vehicles
Always thought the 505's where a timeless design. Clean and simple.
This is a fabulous car. Any wagon rocks! Millions of these things are still in use today in North Africa with zero maintenance. Wagons are so much better than any SUV
It called in Europ...Peugeot 505 familiale ( always has the 3 rows of seats). Very popular back in the days.
The " Stationwagons" are shorter indeed.
Very popular cars, back in the days, aspecialy with the famous Diesel engines. The engines lasted forever. A lot of this car been transferred to Nord and Mid Africa and are still in use !
The previous models, the 504 and the older 404 did existed also as "familiale" My Principal did drove a maroon 404 famillale.( bye Jove...where is the time??)
I have a very soft spot for 505 especially that wagon.
Awesome.!
Never seen one of these in US. French embassy here in Malaysia had one unit in 1990s with diplomatic plates l think it was the PRV V6 engine because driver took great delight in running down BMW E30s. He tangled with our BMW 3.0Si but only once!! When l was living in Raleigh, NC(1997-2003)there was a 'shop owner Richard Hargrove l think his name. He shop was always packed wit 505s and he had at least 5 or 6 Citreon SMs strewn about, 2 were Euro spec. I recall his personal car was a 505 Turbo with the thrashy ex-Simca engine not this timing belt Douvrin unit.
What a surprise! I really enjoyed this video . I used to own two Peugeot 304 in succession and I have fond memories of them.
Bring back the 2stroke Cars I 🚗 really miss them 😢
Started my driving lessons in a rickety VW Beetle and completed the course in a 505. Imagine wrangling the beast without power steering 😅
It's going to be Bosch LU2-Jetronic if this is an American spec car. The Douvrin is a tough little engine from what I've heard, and it's probably helped by the fact that it was designed by a Formula 1 engineer. Heated seats are very common as the French really like their little conveniences.
As a French, i can say it’s definitely not common for us, ours 505’s in Europe wen’t with the minimum (power steering was an option even on Diesel versions, just anightmare to park).
The thing is, for the American market they decided to add a lot of options to suit more the tendencies of the country.
@@keita3434 As an American, I must say that Peugot does not suit the tendencies of our country. This is self-evident, because I haven't seen many since the 1980s. They seem to be more suited to China, Russia, and South America. Personally, I wouldn't buy any brand from the merger group.
I have owned several Peugeots. 1959 403 US model, 1960 403 Canadian model, 61 404 sedan, 68 404 wagon, 72 504 sedan, and a 75 diesel wagon. All tough and reliable but rust was an issue. On the two wagons I owned they had 4 coil springs in the back, there was a double spring base on each side so one spring was a bit ahead of the axle, the other a bit behind. The 505 wagon said it could haul almost a ton in the back and I believe it. Cinderblocks, cement bags, whatever, it would just settle down a little bit but I never had it bottom on the rubber stops.
I was saddened to see they had gone to cam belts and I understand they still use them. I have no idea of the quality or reliability of the current ones since they opted out of the US. I believe the main reason they failed here is their support dwindled down to nothing. You used to be able to get any part in a couple of days, then in the late 70s it got longer and longer. I had to trade my 504 wagon in 1982, mechanically it still ran great but the body was literally falling apart.
Great stories, I love it
@@2stroketurbo We also owned 3 Renaults. A 1970 R10 that I got for $10 (needed overhauling) I got a cylinder piston kit for $99, had the crankshaft machined, assembled it, and ran it for many years.
Next was a 1971 R16, one of the first hatchback designs ever in 1964. Front wheel drive, torsion bar suspension all round with immensely long travel at each wheel. The interior could be arranged in 7 ways for various cargo needs. We moved our waterbed in it. We got it used in 1983 with 149,000 miles on it. It used the same engine as the Lotus Europa. The used car dealer who sold it got us in contact with the original owner who had lots of parts. We got most of them including the same Weber carburetor that was used on the Lotus. I swapped it out and it would chirp the tires in the first 3 gears. Best car ever on long trips, the only car that rode better that I've been in was a Citroen DS21 Pallas. If we could get another of these we would do it in a heartbeat
The last one was a 1983 Renault Alliance. We had it for 17 years, never rusted, gave almost no trouble, but my daughter wrecked it. I don't know if they are as good today. The 1.7 liter engine for the Alliance wasn't a great engine IMHO.
@@vanceblosser2155 thank for your story I have Renault alliance if you need reno parts my friend old reno specialist have a lot of reno parts
@@vladgladkov237 Thanks, but presently I don't have any French cars. I miss them! Most comfortable cars I ever owned.
I remember these! And I remember the commercials where they touted how much safer their wagons supposedly were because the rear passengers faced away from the crumple zones while most 3 row wagons had the third row facing backwards.
II really wanted a 504 diesel wagon. That would have been around 1981. As with most French, it had marvelous suspension. But, when I went to open the hood, and the plastic handle broke off in my hand, I realized it had poor quality materials. They were $12,000 and I did t have that kind of money at the time. Just as well.
nice, i would gladly own it
These Peugeots sold quite well here. Nowadays these cars are rare as rooster's eggs. Their reputation for toughness made them extremely popular in Africa - hence all second hand cars got exported to that continent. Virtually none is left in NL....
Cash for Clunkers turned them all into tiny cubes of metal.
Love the 505 but love the 306 especially as I’m from the uk and you never got it in the us
Wow, cool car! Those are even in Europe very rare.
Practically a Unicorn in the US! Always liked the 505.
Thank for video I wish Peugeot back to America like fiat and alfa romeo
A friend of mine had a '59 403 sedan back in college. It too had the crossflow engine (carburated), with hemi combustion chambers. The drive line was also via torque tube, and the odd-looking rear end was because it didn't have a hypoid differential -- it was worm drive! VERY hard to push start! Quite a nice car, and a lot smaller than this one looks.
So nice to finally see a PEUGEOT on your channel, the 505 needs a decent exhaust to sound correct.
I agree!
Meanwhile they are extremely rare in Europe cause almost all of them made their way to western Africa or rusted away. Except for the rust, they are almost a tough as the W123 Mercedes which was also very popular in Afrika.
There were also 4x4 versions of Peugeot wagons done by Dangel, the French equivalent of Marmon-
Herrington or Napco.
Wow , really ?
@@2stroketurbo Never have seen one in all my travels around the USA, they may have
been only offered in France. I forgot to mention there were also pickups offered by
Peugeot dating back to the 403 and up to the 505 series, and if you "Google" 505
pickups there'll be pictures of a prototype double cab-looking a bit like a Subaru
BRAT.
The 505 was the last Peugeot to be properly designed for the African's market. They were terribly over built to last through extreme abuse (Not really rust though!)
The wagon was even better for durability, Peugeot's was extremely conservative in the way they designed cars, wagons were meant as workhorse, they had reinforced rear ends (Solid axle isntead of independent) and basically custom frame. They ride worse but they handle fine, especially since they all came standard with LSDs.
I live in France, but I'd love to import one back from the US, they have become rare and expensive (All of them were mostly sent to Congo and others) and the US spec ones were all almost top-spec models. I have never ever seen one with A/C or heating seats!
Edit: In fact, if your customer is ever looking to sell this one, I could be intrested
13:24 This is to stop the rear windows from being open
Wouldn't you rather have an old 7 series BMW wagon? I would. Perhaps they're more commonly available in France?
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I love the e38s, but I'm a Peugeot fanboy
@@ulrich_badmecanique Good luck getting one!
Surprisingly good condition, normally they rot like crazy
One of the best cars ever made. You nee an elephant rifle to kill this motor. Most common way in africa
SW 8 should mean Super Wagon 8 (seater) here in South Africa they were called the Super 7 (7 Seater) was commonly used as taxis from rural to the City👍👍👍
It jsut means "station wagon" ;) Peugeot still uses the "SW"" letters for their wagons
@@ulrich_badmecanique Not disputing what you saying from that side of the world...but here its a badge on left side of the tail gate or rear access door ...what ever it can be termed so there fire my response is such✌✌✌
@@JustinPaul1st for sure!
Cool car
the sw8 stands for station wagon 8 seater.
Lovely comfortable cars. I'd have one over a Volvo any day.
They are!
I almost bought a used 505 sedan with a diesel engine, but ended up getting a 1982 VW Jetta with a diesel engine for $300.
This is like a poor man's 7 series BMW wagon. No V8.
Yup
Nice peugeot 505 Pininfarina style they comfortable cars and nice to drive I had 3 505 and 3 405 one was mi 16
How come you've got so many old interesting cars to service?
I have just subscribed so maybe I am missing something, understanding you are specialized in two stroke engines (so de facto old cars).
By the way, the 505 as well as the 504 were outstanding reliable cars too (except the weak driving shaft U joints). There is still a lot of them in Africa, mostly taxi cars.
Thanks for this nice share.
Thanks for subscribing. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only mechanic left that can work on old cars, no one else wants to. Most of society does not care. A lot of good old mechanics have passed on. I have 5 years with the work lined up As of today.
I'm sure those trapezoidal headlight surrounds with the dumb US mandated square headlamps embedded in them were all one piece in Europe, with much better halogen bulbs in them. If it were my car I would investigate getting the Euro-spec light assemblies shipped in from France.
a very wide eyed (almost smashed lamp) look, but a genius compromise to keep the surrounds with extra hidden lamps imho
13:22 That’s actually the window lockout switch
Very nice
0:09 don't touch her mouth ! you just told us what she eats in the last one .
Love this thing
Per **** as un petit peu = a little bit, like your French. Note it has a hypoid diff, so if you topped up the oil on that I hope you used the right oil. If LSD/Posi may also be special oil. The diesel was the one to have but I doubt if the American market back then would have been very receptive. As said they have mostly been spirited of to Africa. Tough old beasts.
Africa ! Who would have thought?
that headlight is quite not the European version. That is just the odd shaped, not a headlight within the headlight.
Toyota stole a lot of stuff from Peugeot styling wise. And that's a good thing.
Neat, strong but very dirty.
Those headlights are ugly.
The underside of the car looks good, with no rust.
familiale , station wagon 8 seats.
5:19 "We have CD player", clearly pointing at cassette deck
Ha. Yup. Brain Fart
Hey Stella🐶
Menny years ago her in Norway
A lot of them send to Egyptian and Africa
American design ruled unsafe seatbelt points !!
Where you find this rare automobile
Find recently 505 86 diesel and mi 16 older gentlemen own if you want them let me know
Man , those headlights look awful....
The Renault 2.2 is an interference engine, Peugeot fanboys prefer the pushrod hemi 1.9. smoother and wants to rev unlike Renault or Chrysler 2.2 which make unholy noises after 4 grand.
Agree, honestly I prefer the 2.0 XN1 engines that these came with in earlier models
@@osvaldovidela6466 1971cc equates to 1.9 litre,not a 2.0 in any way.Sort of like Ford fan boys calling the pushrod 5.0 when it was not....4.9 did not sound as cool. Hell, Mercedes called out in badging 560; engine was a 5.5.
The station wagons Peugeot's where termed Break,Familialein some markets the 404 504 & 505 are on a longer wheel base and the rear suspension was of a double coil spring on each wheel the station wagons always overlaped the next model. SW8 was for the American market (SW8 Station Wagon 8 Seater)