PATTAYA BIGGEST REAL ESTATE SCAM 2024! I LOST 360k BAHT…

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  • @bighoss9705
    @bighoss9705 8 місяців тому +120

    I was watching another tuber in Pattaya where the same thing happened. He somehow managed to get the management to put him in another condo for the duration of his lease. He also paid a year in advance. I personally never pay for more than one month in advance, and if utilities are not included, no deal. As I see it, I'm in a foreign country and there's no guarantee that the agreement will be honored. You never know. We have hardly NO rights here. When it comes to money, I trust no one.

    • @gord8743
      @gord8743 8 місяців тому

      Yep I watched the Welsh guys vlogg yday too as he explained all that Cooper is saying here. It’s a pity but you got to remember that this kind of thing will happen from time to time in Thailand. When’s there’s cash around. Not just with farang criminals there but Thais will take advantage of the farangs that they see as naive retirees flush with money. Never pay up front & never loan money out esp to a Thai. Sad…but that’s the way it is…glad the Dusit grp have sorted out other condos there as it’s their responsibility for the staff & invoicing. 🧐🙄🤦‍♂️

    • @ianryan7826
      @ianryan7826 Місяць тому

      Thanks for making this clear. I do not understand why we are asked to paid anything for a time period we will not be there.

  • @TheCryptonomatron
    @TheCryptonomatron 8 місяців тому +36

    First lesson you must learn is you can never, ever trust anyone here in Thailand. Especially when it comes to money.

    • @ElisaSerafini
      @ElisaSerafini 8 місяців тому +3

      Not true. But you just need to be careful. I own flats and I am a tenant and a landl-lady my self and never had a problem. Been coming to Thailand for 10 years and I live here since 2023. Don’t say things that are not true. Thais are wonderful and criminals are everywhere

    • @motorwouter
      @motorwouter 8 місяців тому +2

      I agree

    • @TheCryptonomatron
      @TheCryptonomatron 8 місяців тому +7

      @@ElisaSerafini I have lived in Thailand for 24 years now and I stand by my comment which was aimed at everyone in Thailand both Thais and foreigners alike.

    • @sunrise-yq3dy
      @sunrise-yq3dy 7 місяців тому +2

      Money is God in Thailand, the worship of money has no end.

    • @picadosinferno
      @picadosinferno 7 місяців тому +1

      Unfortunately true, they will always f things up when money is involved

  • @jonnya1034
    @jonnya1034 8 місяців тому +39

    I paid for a condo at Grand Avenue Pattaya through air bnb for 7 weeks. After 4 weeks a lady opened the door and let herself in with her key card and said the rent hasn’t been paid. I showed her I have paid through air bnb. In the end she let me stay and chased up the agent. I wasn’t happy about this. 🤷‍♂️

  • @propellerhead2000
    @propellerhead2000 8 місяців тому +37

    Wow! What a scandal. I'm sorry to hear.
    Expat Tip: In Thailand, like most places, you cannot enter into a valid lease agreement with anyone except the legal owner of the property listed on the blue (or yellow) house book. Ask to see a copy and talk to the owner listed. A power of attorney may be a work around. Ask to see it.
    Bonus Tip: Electronic bank transfer applications will list the business name of the account holder to see before pressing confirm. Make sure you know who you are sending money to and where.
    Extra Bonus Tip: I'm not a lawyer. Retain one to review contracts.

    • @stolennimbus
      @stolennimbus 8 місяців тому +10

      Don't wire money or write a check to someone's personal account.

    • @propellerhead2000
      @propellerhead2000 8 місяців тому +5

      @@stolennimbus Exactly. A basic rule in this situation.

  • @Goodmorningyoutubers
    @Goodmorningyoutubers 8 місяців тому +34

    After having a quick look at the contract you showed on UA-cam it's not a legal tenancy agreement in Thailand, it's supposed to be signed by the owner of the condo and also have a copy of the owners id, you might not like what I'm about to say but making recommendations to subs when your not an expert in property letting in the land of smiles is probably not a wise move. I hope this lady gets caught and prosecuted and the landlords get some money back.

    • @cryptocrusader6078
      @cryptocrusader6078 8 місяців тому +9

      he setting him self up to be sued

    • @ggregd
      @ggregd 8 місяців тому +2

      But she was so nice, and it's going to go viral!
      Red flags would have been going up all over for me. How was she able to keep their money? Did they pay her cash? E-Payments to her bank account? I would never pay anyone but the owner, never an employee or an agent. Then paying her for the utilities is EXTREEMELY sketchy. Why wouldn't you pay the utility company?

    • @draculasneeze6681
      @draculasneeze6681 7 місяців тому

      @@ggregd guess why?

    • @paulhenry5174
      @paulhenry5174 4 місяці тому

      He sounds like a nice guy that got taken advantage of. He already said the law and the cops and the property owners are on his side. How the fk is he setting himself up for a lawsuit???????????? Some of you keyboard warriors need to keep your advice off the Internet!

  • @CryptoFreddy33
    @CryptoFreddy33 8 місяців тому +20

    Why pay one year in advance? You are responsible for the lost of others. Never promote anything to foreigners that you don't have control over.

  • @lineage13
    @lineage13 8 місяців тому +52

    As a guy who graduated in law, I understand that in the US, an employee is considered a representative of the company. If the employee steals from the company, it is not the customer's liability.

    • @noah_shepherd
      @noah_shepherd 8 місяців тому +23

      Well, this isn't the USA. The contract says 'made as of owner room # X" and then names the agent, who is clearly not the owner, and the renter's names. The renters knew she was an agent - there is no power of attorney, witnesses or full identification details of either parties. Any Thai lawyer would have taken one look at this and told them that the contract is not worth the paper it is printed on. You can buy standard legal rental contracts in the stationary section of any large supermarket! Did any of these people go to a lawyer? They all got ripped off because they did no due diligence.

    • @frankiefourfingers6717
      @frankiefourfingers6717 8 місяців тому

      The same in the U.K.

    • @AugieBenDougie-wk9pr
      @AugieBenDougie-wk9pr 8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah right. You can't even use correct grammar!

    • @BC19572
      @BC19572 8 місяців тому

      ​@@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr 🤣

    • @trentstravels
      @trentstravels 8 місяців тому +4

      At the end of the day, she stole, which IS an offence.

  • @TheCryptonomatron
    @TheCryptonomatron 8 місяців тому +11

    Nobody in their right mind pays a year up front in Thailand mate, you got taken for a ride there.

  • @minimalistation
    @minimalistation 8 місяців тому +12

    Your due diligence didn't pass muster...you encouraged others/subscribers to your channel to follow suit on your recommendation.......You spout information but are not truly well informed......Before you start a UA-cam channel and make statements, you gotta know what you're talking about..................You don't and I advised you of that many months ago, but you chose to gloss over my advice.....................those that follow you are suckered in by your apparent knowledge, but trust me, as an expat in the Kingdom for many decades, you really should take a break from advising others and not post content that is consistently ill-informed......................

  • @husseinmiami
    @husseinmiami 8 місяців тому +17

    Don't ever promote any apartments while in Thailand. Even if u like it so much

  • @onlyme2030
    @onlyme2030 8 місяців тому +26

    Sorry to hear this, but you must do more due diligence, never pay that much upfront- read back through the comments in your original condo threads many of us said don’t pay in advance! I believe you also said in one vlog that you personally guaranteed the agent was great. I know you didn’t mean to but you got carried away and mad promises you couldn’t guarantee!

    • @davidridland
      @davidridland 8 місяців тому

      What happened to the agent.?

    • @draculasneeze6681
      @draculasneeze6681 7 місяців тому

      @@davidridland bought one of the condos - CASH

  • @phillipharding6610
    @phillipharding6610 8 місяців тому +13

    Unfortunately I have personally witnessed Property and Condo Scams in Pattaya . Be very careful with not only Thais but especially Expats who are even worse because they will Befriend you first ! Professional Scammers are very common in Pattaya .

    • @beentheredonethat1525
      @beentheredonethat1525 8 місяців тому

      Professional Scum is VERY COMMON IN PAYPAYPAYPATTAYA... lots of tourist dollars,pounds,euros etc floating around with the DREAMS of retirement & that is !!.. easy money ? & why the SCUM is there ?

    • @jmand63
      @jmand63 8 місяців тому

      Well said! be careful with expats. Much too often, they will try to become nice blokes with you and say: "between us, we understand how it works, trust me". Many of them already have a past of crooks & scammers in their home country. Simply do not trust anybody.

  • @tompe3466
    @tompe3466 8 місяців тому +18

    If the agent is Miss Jeeb, you have a good closeup video of her face on Darlen's birthday video that the police can post on local TV or newspapers. Her closeup face video starts at around 22 minutes and 40 seconds into Darlen's birthday video.

    • @draculasneeze6681
      @draculasneeze6681 7 місяців тому

      she'll be close by, she's got around half a million bucks.

  • @BadApe351
    @BadApe351 8 місяців тому +10

    A friend of mine who's a subscriber sent me your video as I've got thoughts of retiring in Thailand from Australia in a few years. It's plain to see Cooper you're as honest as the day is long...and your courage in the face of this adversity is incredible. This disaster is no reflection on you. You were trying to help people. But sadly there are people like your agent everywhere in the world who only see honest people as potential prey. Let's hope she doesn't pop up at some other tourist location in Thailand and suckers more good people. I suppose a name is usless as she's probably got multiple identities. Anyway all the best Cooper and you've got a new subscriber.

  • @motivationechoes5002
    @motivationechoes5002 8 місяців тому +20

    Where can she hide? There must be enough information about her address and her family and also tons of images and videos of her.

    • @bigal2417
      @bigal2417 8 місяців тому +2

      And ID card

    • @cardiobuck
      @cardiobuck 8 місяців тому +2

      Where can she hide? Sounds like she ran off with about 10 million THB. A local, especially if she chooses a more rural province, can live out the remainder of her natural life very comfortably with that amount of money. She can hide just about anywhere she chooses. No person or entity is going to commit the resources to find her compared to what she can spend hiding.

    • @davidridland
      @davidridland 8 місяців тому +1

      Yes the authorities would already know where she is or has gone to ANOTHER COUNTRY ..? But thailand is complex COUNTRY when it comes to these matters many different departments of police investigation etc etc things move very slowly

  • @darkcloud9581
    @darkcloud9581 8 місяців тому +12

    You would think involving those large sums of money the company would have much better checks and balances in place ???...........the temptation to steal when they earn so little ........and to hear that it's around 10 million baht ..............hope the police can track down her and her family who are benefiting from her crime ..........

  • @BRAVO_TWO_NINE
    @BRAVO_TWO_NINE 8 місяців тому +6

    My brother and sister and those who were affected are in my prayers. Appreciate you posting this unfortunate incident. You have been upfront and honest with all those you have assisted. This is a setback and hopefully will not affect your reputation or the community you both created...
    Stand fast, handle it, and move forward. Peace.

    • @808bear2
      @808bear2 8 місяців тому

      I hope Coops does not think this displays on his integrity, he is fault free. I have heard it is one of the biggest real estate scams ever in Thailand.

  • @louis20122
    @louis20122 8 місяців тому +6

    It is scary nowadays that money and greed still rule. No one is safe or trusted.

  • @naderahmedabdulla1097
    @naderahmedabdulla1097 8 місяців тому +7

    I'm very sorry for your loss... This gives a good lesson for everyone that don't trust anybody in Thailand 😔

  • @smifff63
    @smifff63 8 місяців тому +13

    That must be the same condo the Welsh UA-camr lives in, he did a vid yesterday on it. He’s not lost out though as they’ve relocated him, he will lose his deposit though if I remember rightly.

    • @jeremyhares979
      @jeremyhares979 Місяць тому

      Why did they relocate him if the room is still there ?

  • @KippaxInThailand
    @KippaxInThailand 8 місяців тому +7

    Wow she took you for a right ride...The problem is with any scam even if they get the people the money is long gone. Nearly every scam the money is never returned. Doubt the police will care once the dust settles. Pro tip never lend anyone any money. I wish you well in your future

    • @davidridland
      @davidridland 8 місяців тому

      Yes it will go through all the Thai legal processes and departments that are required to investigate the matter so it could take a long time not short time

  • @The_Music_Sanctuary
    @The_Music_Sanctuary 8 місяців тому +4

    Sorry to hear about this Coop, I remember when you did this video and saved it in my Coop Thai file. I hope this all works out for you and Brooke, and everyone else affected. Your great people and I look forward to meeting you folks there one day. Let's hope she gets caught and has too pays the piper, all the best folks.

  • @summertime8199
    @summertime8199 3 місяці тому +2

    Wow! I just heard a similar story yesterday from another UA-cam content creator I believe for Base Condo in Pattaya. This is sad. Sorry this happened to you.

  • @londonbobby69
    @londonbobby69 8 місяців тому +14

    Fomo! Fear Of Missing Out! Your video was the matchstick of this fire! Your blind trust for this agent was the worst thing you could have done to your unlucky subscribers! The agent used you to market her scam. I can't believe you didn't see any red flags, especially of her borrowing large sums of money with no contract. Sir, you are partly responsible. Good luck!

  • @mrszee951
    @mrszee951 8 місяців тому +7

    im sorry to be blunt but everyone knows the risks in thailand why would you pay up front and why would you lend the money
    whos bank account did you send the money to ? and why would you help russian and chinese people with transfering money
    im sorry for your loss and hope a lesson was learned here

  • @jimcunningham61
    @jimcunningham61 8 місяців тому +5

    Coop I’m not crazy about paying my rent one year in advance , I’m thinking 2 months at the most

  • @maxmiguel500
    @maxmiguel500 8 місяців тому +3

    Now there's a Thailand story . Thank you very much for your candid telling of it . Just goes to show that you must be very careful with deals around property in lovely Thailand .

  • @petef9148
    @petef9148 8 місяців тому +13

    No doubt she had a gambling problem

    • @johnalex5466
      @johnalex5466 8 місяців тому +2

      Who gives a crap about her gambling problem...

    • @petef9148
      @petef9148 8 місяців тому

      @@johnalex5466 I was trying to suggest a possible motivation

    • @Pomelu
      @Pomelu 8 місяців тому +1

      or....shes just a scammer ?

  • @masdolphin
    @masdolphin 8 місяців тому +3

    Wow! How sad. Thank you for being transparent about all of this. Also thank you for not answering my email a few weeks ago, or I would be involved also. I hope it all turns out well for those affected

    • @hownwen
      @hownwen 8 місяців тому

      We're glad we didn't get involved either. So sad...

  • @rebornitsybitsy7515
    @rebornitsybitsy7515 8 місяців тому +10

    Great video, just saying for 20,000 baht a month you can rent a new build 4 bedroom, 4 bathroom detached house with large garden instead of having to hear noisy neighbours from these apartments.

    • @replicas11
      @replicas11 8 місяців тому

      Agree, condos are ok for a holiday but not for living in, a house with a garden is the way to go IMO.

  • @geraldjones1509
    @geraldjones1509 8 місяців тому +10

    I watched all of the video, but I'm still not clear on how you lost 360k.

    • @w3s77
      @w3s77 8 місяців тому +1

      One year lease and lent agent 100k.

    • @keithhodgson6489
      @keithhodgson6489 7 місяців тому +1

      @@w3s77 So if he has acceptable accommodation for a year at no further cost his real loss is negligible. Correct?

    • @Wtfisahandle344
      @Wtfisahandle344 6 місяців тому

      Baht not dollars

    • @nh67796
      @nh67796 3 місяці тому

      @@w3s77 360K Baht is around 97K usd, so he lent the agent 100K Baht (27K usd) and paid 70K usd for a years rent? I doubt he paid that much for a years worth of rent? 7:04 in the vidoe shows the contract monthly rental price of 20K Baht which is ~540.00 USD per month. SO I'm thinking the title is click bait

  • @giorgiomichelini3827
    @giorgiomichelini3827 8 місяців тому +15

    I'm so sorry to hear this, after all the commitment, efforts and help you genuinely provided to all of us, Cooper, you really don't deserve this. I can only imagine how you guys feel right now. My wishes and prayers go to all of you to overcome this awful situation. Darren and Darlen keep on being proud of what you did, you help and generosity has been fundamental for many people of our community.

    • @cryptodetective8226
      @cryptodetective8226 8 місяців тому

      He ripped off his friends and was in on it with that woman he claimed did it. Thats why he was quick to mention the so called loans and $ going back n forth because he knows law enforcement or any type of investigation would see that. He is a con and fraud and only fooling you guys.

  • @markadler8968
    @markadler8968 8 місяців тому +5

    There is another channel called welshboywebby. He just posted a video on the exact same topic. More than likely it was the same agent.

  • @สุทธิศักดิ์มธุรพงศากุล

    Yesterday I visited Pattaya and went up to the 32nd floor called Sky 32 Bar in Terminal 21 north Pattaya , The atmosphere was great, both the view and the cool breeze. You can buy drinks from the foodland below, including beer, wine, or spirits to drink. 😊😉🤗🥃🥂🍻🍺🍹🍸🍷🍾

  • @jomtiendave8544
    @jomtiendave8544 8 місяців тому +4

    Not only DGP 2... ALSO DGP1...I had the same agent....I have sorted everything she used to look after... We have a good owner which helps a lot. We are lucky in that we are only out 18K.

  • @country_club_leaders
    @country_club_leaders 8 місяців тому +15

    Thank you for posting this video. I lent the employee 40,000 baht. I paid my rent up front for 14 months. I paid my water and electric each month.
    I'm sad for this person. Like any crime, what was the root cause for her dishonesty? I've been scammed many times in my life BUT it won't change my faith in people.
    You and Darlene are 2 of the nicest people I have ever met. Keep being who you are, your kind souls inspire others.

    • @sarlina1
      @sarlina1 8 місяців тому +8

      I am sorry for your loss, Sir. And sorry for all others who lost money on this. I just want to say, as a Thai, a lot of ladies in particular, have gambling issues in Thailand. Maybe we should not speculate, but I think that is a plausible explanation on where the money went. And if this is the case here, it will probably never be recovered. The only chance of that is if this lady is an owner of a condo, house or a car/motorbike. Then there is a good chance for some of it to be recovered. I would have understood when she started to borrow money from tenants, that is a huge red flag, and the amount increased for each time.. All signs of a gambler`s mind. Most likely spent on gambling, lost, and she needed more to cover the losses.. I know many ladies caught up in this, gambling is a really huge issue in Thailand, everything from card, lottery or even sports, but I have never heard of it at this scale. This is just sad for everyone involved. Hope you will get your money back, Sir, and all others. This makes me sad to my bone on behalf of all Thais😥

    • @Ronny669
      @Ronny669 8 місяців тому +1

      @country_club_leaders .That was such a touching comment i felt compelled to reply .That you still have empathy & retain faith in people is admirable .
      I am purely generalizing from many dealings with people involved in company theft .In most cases i concluded they were not dishonest by nature , that there had been a tipping point . It might have been family crisis ,debt incurred from which they saw no way out .
      It taught me not to judge or be self righteous & that there was a very thin line between black & white , good or bad & i always thanked god i've never incurred debt or had hardship & had to walk that line , because i honestly don't know if i would have gone right or left .

    • @wishyouwereherewithus
      @wishyouwereherewithus 8 місяців тому

      I'm so sorry this happened, so can you have a video on how we can avoid these scams ?

    • @ferney2936
      @ferney2936 8 місяців тому

      @@sarlina1 Thank you for that insight into Thai life. I had heard of this gambling predilection but I'd assumed it was on a much smaller scale. If it really was about gambling then the woman herself is to be pitied as well as her victims as she must have been trying desperately to win back enough money to pay the condo owners before her dishonesty was discovered. Her increasing losses must have driven her out of her mind & I don't know how she kept herself together over the past few months. I'm guessing that her borrowing from tenants might have been a final desperate attempt to collect some on-the-run cash. Whatever, I don't imagine that she's 'laughing all the way to the bank' as we British say so everyone in this situation ends up losing.

    • @german411
      @german411 8 місяців тому

      I do the scamming and stealing.

  • @darlayjones669
    @darlayjones669 4 місяці тому +1

    Cooper, sorry to hear that awful story. May God keep blessing you and your wife. Now, my question is - Based on that awful experience, if you had to do it all over again, what you think you would do differently?

  • @harrissonscottii1629
    @harrissonscottii1629 7 місяців тому +1

    Informative video.. Sad reality is the foreigners will dol out the money for these Thai byrds but foreigners who are in precarious financial situations they will not help. Unfortunately I've seen this all too frequently as foreigners are mostly blind to the reality of these byrds.

    • @CoopersThaiAdventure
      @CoopersThaiAdventure  7 місяців тому +1

      Use a rental office and contact owner if in doubt 👍❤️👍

  • @fatwallet13
    @fatwallet13 8 місяців тому +7

    Can you explain how you have lost 360K Thai Baht when you said you are still being allowed to live at the Condo, I understand you have lost 50K Thai baht out of the 100K Thai Baht you loaned this vile woman but were is the additional 310K Thai Baht coming from, I'd be interested to know?

    • @ferney2936
      @ferney2936 8 місяців тому

      true...not definitively lost yet but definitely at risk & in Cooper's mind that risk must currently seem high. 'You don't need to move out of your condo' is a verbal assurance from the Condo developer, not a binding contract with the condo owner that he can stay for the remainder of the term he paid for. Plus, UA-camrs know that thumbnails need to convey as much drama as possible to encourage views & that's now second nature to them. I think we can cut Coops some slack here, poor Guy.

    • @CoolCatTravels
      @CoolCatTravels 8 місяців тому

      This is what I came here to ask. If you watch part 2, he and everyone else that's been updated so far are being allowed to stay in their condos at no extra charge. And even though they're not getting their deposits back, they're being allowed to stay an extra month to offset that. I see how this is a big headache and stressful for everyone involved, so I do sympathize. However, as @ferney2936 states, it's exaggerated for views, and I don't blame any youtuber for that necessarily, and I don't blame them for soliciting donations to their channel in appreciation for the content the produce, but if the exaggeration being used to induce more donations, I find that dishonest.

    • @CoopersThaiAdventure
      @CoopersThaiAdventure  8 місяців тому

      We never once asked for any donations! I never said that im asking donations on both videos FYI

    • @CoopersThaiAdventure
      @CoopersThaiAdventure  8 місяців тому

      Please watch the update video and make sure that you watched it until the end.

    • @CoolCatTravels
      @CoolCatTravels 8 місяців тому

      @@CoopersThaiAdventure I realize you didn't explicitly ask for donations in response to this scam. I agree that this was indeed a scam. I also sympathize that it's a big headache and that you and other renters, as well as condo owners, were wronged by this agent. But you never explain how you arrived at 360k lost (I watched part 2 update and still missed it if it's there). It's none of anyone's business except for the fact that you include it in the title of the video. That's the only reason @fatwallet and I even ask. And even though there was no mention of donation request, the qr code is sitting there in the lower corner by the title saying you lost 360k baht. So it APPEARS to imply the need for $ even if that's not what you are implying. Losing 50+k baht sucks, don't get me wrong. Just wondering what I missed with the other 310k baht.
      Disclaimer: I'm new to your channel. I think it popped up in my feed because I saw another youtuber posting about this. Seems like he, you, and everyone so far is not losing money or accommodations. Also seems like an open and shut case against the agent and I hope the owners get their rent money from her (or the condo group if they're compensating the owners for their loss). I will also check out more of your videos and support with views, likes, etc. Best of luck resolving this mess and maybe I'll see you and others on my next trip to Pattaya/Pratamnak/Jomtien. Cheers!

  • @robmanabouttown3298
    @robmanabouttown3298 8 місяців тому +3

    So shocking this happened …… this is the second time this week I’ve heard of this!
    It concerns me as I’m coming over at the end of March with the intention of renting long term!
    Hope it works out for you guys and will be watching closely for updates.
    Best wishes from the UK ❤

  • @alfaromeo905
    @alfaromeo905 8 місяців тому +2

    Sorry to hear the news, hope you, Brooke and the others affected will get things sorted out in your favour. Wishing all those tenants affected all the best. I hope the Thai authorities catch and prosecute her to the fullest.

  • @stupot1952
    @stupot1952 8 місяців тому +4

    oh dear COOPER LESSON LEARNED........ NEVER LEND MONEY IN THAILAND!

  • @effewe2
    @effewe2 8 місяців тому +7

    You never, ever pay the agent! Pay the owner! You could have asked for advice on chat groups or just go to a local bar and ask folks before dropping all that money here. There are so many documented stories of scams in this country, and some basic research could have prevented this mess. No excuse!

  • @Namlange70
    @Namlange70 8 місяців тому +6

    Sorry to hear about this incident, brother. I hope the management will look after whoever is affected.

  • @stevewilliams2565
    @stevewilliams2565 8 місяців тому +2

    Cooper, what an eye opener! You took her on trust. so sorry for your dilemma. I also am planning to retire to Jomtein Beach in May, and came last September to set it all up . I hope somehow you are reimbursed. God bless you for your honesty and sincerety. You meant well. I wish you all the best...Kiwi Steve.

    • @replicas11
      @replicas11 8 місяців тому

      Rent a house, living in a condo will send you loopy after a few months

  • @jgb4unme1
    @jgb4unme1 8 місяців тому +3

    I'm very sorry this has happened to you guys and your friends. It seems like you guys did everything you could do and were totally above board. it's horrible what folks can/will do to good people. I hope they find her and you guys can recoup your loss!

    • @davidridland
      @davidridland 8 місяців тому

      This happens in all countries you just have to know what legal documents and laws are in the country you are living in not assume laws are the same as in USA uk or Aust

  • @kev12364
    @kev12364 8 місяців тому +4

    So where is the woman now? Surely the police would know her address and name. And will not be long before they pick her up. Greetings from Roi Et.

    • @boleynphil
      @boleynphil 7 місяців тому

      If you have her mobile phone number then the Police can legally find her location IF there is a formal legal case against her..easy they speak to the phone network provider - I know a guy who found his Thai wife who ran off with their kids without his knowledge + found them this way 😮

    • @boleynphil
      @boleynphil 7 місяців тому

      Your lawyer should know this unless they want to drag the case out + earn more legal fees

  • @edwingramba8743
    @edwingramba8743 8 місяців тому +2

    Very sad to hear about this situation, being an agent for over 13 years in Pattaya myself. Make my blood boil, overall Thai people, agents are mostly helpful and friendly. I hope there will be a solution and you will get compensated. Thank you for the video 🙏

    • @davidridland
      @davidridland 8 місяців тому

      Yes there are good and bad people in every country ☺

  • @Pomelu
    @Pomelu 8 місяців тому +3

    someone giving you a discount for a yearly payment when they pay the condo monthly in your place is a major red flag lol, and on top of that you lended her money... jezus christ

  • @richiemochi
    @richiemochi 8 місяців тому +1

    Cooper thanks for being open about your situation. Just saw your video. If I were in your shoes my heart would skipped a beat. These are the types of situation I want to avoid when I go to Thailand. Hope everything gets sorted out and the owner goes after the agent. Please update us on the situation.

  • @Matt_T__
    @Matt_T__ 8 місяців тому +2

    How did she "Move mountains" to get people in a rental property that has vacancies and is reliant on rental income? Do you get how ridiculous that sounds?

  • @alanharrison694
    @alanharrison694 8 місяців тому +2

    I currently live in Jomtien, but I first came to live in 2003. I have seen numerous real estate issues, especially with several huge off-plan projects they were building in the early 2000s. Many investors lost their deposits and probably have not gotten it back. Just be careful, and only pay monthly, even if it’s a couple of thousand baht more. And another good practice is no more than one month security. But I wish you the best with your problems and hope it works out for you and your affected viewers.

  • @charlesetienne6037
    @charlesetienne6037 8 місяців тому +1

    Sorry to hear this. This was the video that made me subscribe to your channel. Here the law will chase the company to refund your money.

  • @thailandreaction
    @thailandreaction 8 місяців тому +2

    20 years in Thailand must have had more than 50 leases. Every single time I've sent the money to the owner of the condo who's details are on the contract cause you dont make a contract with the agent you make it with the owner. So when you start the video saying you gave the money to the agent i'm thinking how could you even think that was ok from the get go?

  • @Tattoo2021
    @Tattoo2021 8 місяців тому +1

    Well a truly great life lesson for all people that watch this. The world is full of scammers and at times we are far too trusting . This lesson should be applied to living in any country in this world. Paying in advance seems like a risky move with any thing we do. Thanks for sharing this

  • @davestewart6476
    @davestewart6476 8 місяців тому +2

    Wow unbelievable what a scam! I feel sorry for all you people losing that money. No blame on you Cooper.

  • @tomm.6265
    @tomm.6265 8 місяців тому +3

    Never pay money to any one but the legal Owner period man she set this scam up beautifully worked on everyone's trust then took them to the cleaners a hard lesson learned for those involved unfortunately could have been prevented always verify ownership of the owner and always pay directly to the owner never to a agent because this is what can happen feel bad for everyone involved.

  • @maryziggy8802
    @maryziggy8802 8 місяців тому +2

    Another vlogger did a piece on this yesterday and he too was offered other accommodation which he took. He did lose his deposit but he did say how good the agent was in sorting out the problem caused by the rogue employee. Good luck in getting the same outcome

  • @MarkJohnson-zf7jj
    @MarkJohnson-zf7jj 3 місяці тому +2

    That's horrible. But small coins compared to what happened in Vietnam recently

    • @CoopersThaiAdventure
      @CoopersThaiAdventure  3 місяці тому +2

      What happened in Vietnam??

    • @MarkJohnson-zf7jj
      @MarkJohnson-zf7jj 3 місяці тому

      @@CoopersThaiAdventure it's all over the world news. Although it's not apples to apples in your case. It is all about corruption at the hands of builders and developers and the scam got the main player, a female, the death sentence. It's ruined a lot of lives and is into the multiple billions in losses..

    • @MarkJohnson-zf7jj
      @MarkJohnson-zf7jj 3 місяці тому

      @@CoopersThaiAdventure PS there's a good chance I'll be in Thailand in September. I'm a pretty savvy Globetrotter, but might need help renting and/or buying. Mark A MN

  • @douangphanthavong5366
    @douangphanthavong5366 8 місяців тому +2

    Best of luck to you and others who were affected by these unfortunate scams.

    • @CoopersThaiAdventure
      @CoopersThaiAdventure  8 місяців тому +2

      Developers stepped up and agreed to rehouse everyone at no extra expense. Win win 👍❤️👍

    • @douangphanthavong5366
      @douangphanthavong5366 8 місяців тому

      Great to hear brother! We’re all can learn from this incident.

  • @tjtj5691
    @tjtj5691 8 місяців тому +1

    I never ever have to worry about people paying me back money. Why, I never loan money, not even to my closest friends. I stay firm on this, it is a rule I made to myself. We all work hard for our money and those who need it but don't have it need to follow what I learned long ago. If you can't afford it, live without it. Have an emergency fund and if you don't; then do not ask me to dip into mine to help you. It may sound cold but nope; it is a basic rule that will be followed. Turn it around; can you borrow the same from the person asking you? We all have responsibilities to ourselves to live, save, and prepare for.

  • @CaptainKremmen
    @CaptainKremmen 8 місяців тому +2

    The company was careless and should be totally on the hook for this. Their employee, their fault. Plus if the office knew about utilities in arrears from a prior tenant, they should have investigated long ago. That sounds like a slip-up by the scammer and they totally failed to act in time. The company and the police obviously know who she is, so finding her should be pretty easy unless she has skipped the country.
    It's also a reminder that intermediaries add a lot of risk. If you deal directly with the owner and pay utility bills direct to the utility company, this type of scam isn't possible. (Even if they are not scamming, the double-handling is dangerous. I get mistakes from my utility companies at times. It's hard enough to get that fixed when you're dealing directly. If you were having to go through someone else, it'd be a nightmare.)

  • @leahvang9094
    @leahvang9094 7 місяців тому +1

    What did we learn from this? Money ! Money can change a good person to become bad. Money!

  • @Lesjennings2295
    @Lesjennings2295 8 місяців тому +1

    Good morning my brother. sorry to hear about the scam that you as well as everyone else was a part of. Just wanted to tell you that you’re doing a good deed for people and bringing positiveness to UA-cam as long as you’re doing that Satan’s always going to try to intervene. Keep doing what you’re doing God‘s got a plan for you.
    Peace.

  • @sapalot5660
    @sapalot5660 8 місяців тому +2

    There was a bank scandal a few years ago that was probably a bigger scandal. Same sort of thing where an employee stole peoples money but rather than losing rent some people lost their life savings. Be careful abd protect yourself.

  • @rod2308
    @rod2308 8 місяців тому +4

    I saw this happened to another youtuber too Welshboy at his condo ...is it the same agent??

    • @LePubPattaya
      @LePubPattaya 8 місяців тому +2

      I was thinking it sounds like the same condo

  • @geraldarrington9620
    @geraldarrington9620 8 місяців тому +2

    Is it me or does every expat vloggers get ripped off? Never pay a year in advance, negotiate for one month advance and one month deposit .. she set you up perfectly. Kudos to her. Hopefully lesson learned.

  • @thegrubbypirate2614
    @thegrubbypirate2614 8 місяців тому +2

    This is shitty brother. Feel for ya man! I always get nervous paying a years advance. I'm currently looking for a long term rental in Pattaya, but I think I'll avoid that place!

  • @MakeDuunaaThaimaassa
    @MakeDuunaaThaimaassa 8 місяців тому +1

    Lot of scammers in Pattaya real estate business

  • @DominateTheGame
    @DominateTheGame 8 місяців тому +1

    Sorry you guys had to go through that. Thank you for sharing this story.

    • @CoopersThaiAdventure
      @CoopersThaiAdventure  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for watching. Hopefully you choose to subscribe and watch many more 👍❤️👍

  • @kent3874
    @kent3874 8 місяців тому +1

    How could Dusit let their agent collect the money into their personal bank account. Was there no Dusit company bank account that is monitored and controlled. Something seems really off there. And how could it go that long with dusit not catching it. Sure seems like some incompetence in Dusit to not have the proper procedures and controls in place.

  • @AuntyJack123
    @AuntyJack123 8 місяців тому +2

    She saw all of you coming for sure. Lined up the easy marks. I've only been here for a couple of years in Thailand and I know enough to only pay 10,000thb deposit plus one month in advance. It's the long lease that brings the monthly cost down which is understandable. Plus any contract for rental needs a copy of owners Thai ID card and deposit/rent paid directly to the owners bank account.

    • @draculasneeze6681
      @draculasneeze6681 7 місяців тому

      then asked for a loan afterwards - she's a pro(fessional).

  • @hfc6535
    @hfc6535 8 місяців тому +1

    So sorry to hear this news. I was going to contact you as I'm flying next week. Hope the authorities have got her locked up. Seems like they're going to look after you . Hope you get sorted

  • @rcardoosuna6491
    @rcardoosuna6491 8 місяців тому +2

    I wonder if there were any other steps or safeguards that can be taken in the future. Perhaps a system of checks and balances.Any suggestions from the lawyer or management company of what could be done in the future to prevent a dishonest agent from doing such thing again? In a country with such low wages and prevalent poverty it would seem it would be a higher likelihood of getting scammed. Perhaps just paying month to month is a safer bet?

  • @melvinaoki6329
    @melvinaoki6329 8 місяців тому +3

    sorry to view your predicament....usually an employee who handles money for a company, the company carries a bond to protect the company as well as the customers...was she bonded?

  • @trianglehat6994
    @trianglehat6994 7 місяців тому +1

    I've been in Vietnam for 17 years. Heard this story many times. It's a shame you just can't trust people. More people means more bad and SE Asian countries are cram packed with people. I pray that lady comes to her senses and returns the money. Take care, God bless.

  • @truebluethai5898
    @truebluethai5898 8 місяців тому +1

    Hello Cooper just watching your channel 1st time, I was surprised by what happened but not massive. Watching another you tuber he had the same issue with his condo. I live with Thais in area in Jomtien ..and family that why I feel secure .. hope everything works out for you .. got to be careful who you trust .

  • @peterneal2185
    @peterneal2185 8 місяців тому +1

    She's arrested yet? Is her name "Jeab" ? I'm sorry that you guys have been through terrible time. Please keep this go viral, we can't accept what have she done to the people. Please give us an updated, wishes she get arrested soon

  • @TheSsteve70
    @TheSsteve70 8 місяців тому +4

    Anyone who pays a year upfront is stupid you go to Thailand to live but trying to save money this way just find a cheaper condo and pay monthly then you can’t be ripped off

  • @donpyle4926
    @donpyle4926 8 місяців тому +2

    Wow. Hope it all works out for everyone.

  • @rob2530
    @rob2530 8 місяців тому +1

    Hi Coops. Sorry to hear that this has happened. I hope it works out for your family and your subscribers. Take care 🤝

  • @catherinetester8365
    @catherinetester8365 8 місяців тому +1

    I was getting ready to send you two a honeymoon celebration coffee, and then I saw your awful news 😢 So sorry to hear what happened. You both do so much good and help so many (me) who are contemplating retiring to Thailand with all your vlogs and information. Don't let the bxxxards get you down 😮 Best from Tucson, AZ. I sent the coffees, hope you get them, I haven't done it before.

  • @007cableguy
    @007cableguy 7 місяців тому +1

    It's been going on for years!!.. I know people scammed out of Condo's and houses!.. I found a new condo in View talay 2 when it first opened, I was looking at adverts for condos in the main reception when one of the VT cleaning staff said she had a condo for rent all brand new, Took a look and it was great at 7k a month, No problems for a couple of years. Paid her every month, Then one day a Welsh guy knocked on the door said he was the owner and asked how long I'd been there said 2 years!.. He said the cleaner his wife's friend had said I'd been there 2 weeks!!. She'd pocketed 2 years of rent!. He understood it wasn't my fault and I carried on the for another 3 years paying direct to him!, Needless to say the cleaner did a runner 🤬

  • @olijfcadiz4231
    @olijfcadiz4231 8 місяців тому +2

    Sir, why does this development looks totally dead? No-one at the pool and gym all the balconies have zero activity? Why is it a ghost town? Btw if the law is on ur side and you guys may finish the rental agreement then the damage isn’t really urs. At least now you also know the downside of pattaya. This woman got the job because she was the only one that could speak fluently English so no-one could check her escapades much because no other fluent English staff there from Dusit rental agency.

  • @tompe3466
    @tompe3466 8 місяців тому +2

    Wow, I'm so sorry to hear this. You are all such nice people. Hopefully, she will be caught. The condo association and their insurance company will have to make good on all of the people that are affected financially by this. Otherwise, the complex's reputation will be ruined and people will be afraid to rent there in the future.

    • @BraveFartz
      @BraveFartz 8 місяців тому

      why would the complex`s reputation be ruined , it was an employee not the owner .

    • @tompe3466
      @tompe3466 8 місяців тому +1

      @@BraveFartz I was right. Watch Cooper's updated video on this matter.
      The owners are responsible for their employee's actions.

    • @davidridland
      @davidridland 8 місяців тому

      You need to realise this is thailand not the USA different laws and way of doing things she was not working for complex she was an agent with a counter who worked on behalf of owners renting and dealing on their behalf it was a separate business to the complex

    • @tompe3466
      @tompe3466 8 місяців тому

      @@davidridland You're wrong. She worked directly for Dusit Grand Park 2. Cooper states all the facts in his video that he posted a few days later. His video is titled "Must watch in full! Here’s the facts". Check it out.

  • @mastermind2032
    @mastermind2032 8 місяців тому +1

    I just heard about this from one of my neighbors in the sauna this morning. I can't believe it. I am sorry to hear that, Coop. I hope that they catch her.

  • @Kevbrooks451
    @Kevbrooks451 8 місяців тому +1

    So glad you got sorted you seem a decent guy , another channel did a vlog on this Welshboy web by.Good luck to you , just subscribed

  • @Dave.C937
    @Dave.C937 8 місяців тому +2

    That's bad news Coop's. As the saying goes', you can't judge a book by its' cover. When we build trust with others & then get ripped off, it doe's take away a little of our faith in humans on the whole. Not your fault mate. You thought you were doing the right thing & you had every right to feel that way. Take care mate. Dave. (aka, Dave 1968)

  • @rikirex2162
    @rikirex2162 8 місяців тому +1

    we going in scammy times here in Thailand...tomorrow I'll check with the tenants in my condos and tell them not to pay more than 2 months at the time.

    • @CoopersThaiAdventure
      @CoopersThaiAdventure  8 місяців тому +1

      Be careful of the agent that you trust 👍

    • @rikirex2162
      @rikirex2162 8 місяців тому

      trust?...don't know that word, not even for banks.@@CoopersThaiAdventure

  • @kiwimcozzie5431
    @kiwimcozzie5431 8 місяців тому +2

    Sad sad sad- For what its worth I've passed a link to this channel (This episode) (to their personal LINE accounts)i know in thailand (2 accomodation owners and 2 Police i know on a personal basis for many years-NO doubt the local police will be looking diligently for this woman -such a shameful betrayal of trust. Not sure my effort will help at all but its all i can do . Ill sure be watching closely for your updates- I love Thailand and the Thai people-just so damn sad this happened.

  • @thisweekbestvalueapartment
    @thisweekbestvalueapartment 7 місяців тому +1

    Oh my goodness, this is crazy 😱😱😱😱

  • @player_two710
    @player_two710 8 місяців тому +1

    Why oh why do foreigners pay a year in advance for Rent is absolutely wild that’s prob a third of the price to actually buy the unit it’s total inexperienced behavior

  • @Viva_Thailand
    @Viva_Thailand 8 місяців тому +1

    Yes thieves are generally friendly people .

  • @brucedavis6244
    @brucedavis6244 8 місяців тому +1

    HI I'm new Sub and you're good kind man I'm sorry that this lady did this to you

  • @mosscrowley3115
    @mosscrowley3115 8 місяців тому

    Absolutely shocking Cooper, so sad that this situation should happen to you and Darlen after all the honest and genuine help you have given everyone. You have created a community of great people and I am sure they will stand beside you at this awful time.
    I hope everything works out, continue doing what you have started.. helping people and creating a warm genuine community of like minded people.
    Kindest regards to you, Darlen and Brooke.,God Bless.,🙏🍀🇮🇪.

  • @cabowabo5557
    @cabowabo5557 8 місяців тому +1

    You NEVER know until you know! Sorry for your troubles, Cooper.

  • @paulinsydneyaussie3902
    @paulinsydneyaussie3902 8 місяців тому

    Sorry to hear about this Cooper...I've learned not everyone is honest in Pattaya funnily enough. Another thing that your subscribers should be aware of is agents that convince you to put down a holding deposit $$ when buying a condo/house. Agents will tell you it's so no one else can buy the property while contracts & paperwork is completed. So I put down a 30,000 bht holding deposit. My thai lawyer informed me not to transfer money to the agent as a holding deposit until a contract is signed & all paperwork is submitted by the seller and correct. Then the buyer can put down 10% of selling price. But I had already given the agent my holding deposit prior to speaking with my lawyer. I didn't proceed with the purchase & I lost half of my holding deposit. Agent kept it. So always talk to a thai lawyer when buying property. It will save you heartache & money in the long run. All the best 😊

  • @trancekingpj
    @trancekingpj 8 місяців тому +1

    Utterly gutted for you and Darlen with what's happened Coop! I hope that you're both able to end up with a positive outcome from all of this :(

  • @AllSpace
    @AllSpace 8 місяців тому +1

    this thief is known to have practice scamming very well, it may look as if she's could be at airport now boarding the same plane as thaksin

  • @YourManifoldWorld
    @YourManifoldWorld 8 місяців тому +2

    This is terrible.
    There is a very high probability she was involved in gambling debts. That's my guess.