Short video about my old Surly disc trucker which has been upgraded with a Rohloff SPEEDHUB 500/14 14-speed gear hub. This bike is now a touring machine.
Yup. deFAILeurs are the NUTSO on any transportation bike. Only IGH on my 3 bikes now. I do 100 mile rides on my CCM 3 speed too. That bike I had in Montreal for 3 days on my car/ bike tour in 2019. The thousands of speed bumps are crazy insane there. WTF. Pretty good setup except the typical Surly fit >> Too SMALL. LOL That's a 54 cm?? There's a whole 6" between bar and the bottom of the seat plus setback post. I have 1" post showing on my custom, and all the other level bikes I ever owned. I made a CF chaincase, well worth the effort. The last chain did 4,000 miles before I even cleaned it. Leave the factory grease as is on a new chain!!! Half a chain guard is better than nothing. I have a full swept chrome comfort bar from the 1970s. I put the shifter on the toptube with a post I made, no flopping cables for me. It looks like you have the wimpy light folding lock, useless IMO. My Granite one is mounted the same in a CF container I made. I do leave it at home on 100 mile day rides that I do dozens of. I also have a longer chain and key lock for around bigger trees. My front hub is a SA XL-FDD dyno DRUM brake, absolutely flawless stopping in any weather. First one has 33,000 miles. Thru axle sucks IMO. And about the noise, mine didn't really quiet down and coast better until 18,000 miles, now it has 21,700. Got it in 2014, then went to Vietnam and China. Where I saw a tall guy in Saigon that did the same as you on an LHT. He hadn't started his ride yet, me either actually. Then in Hanoi I saw an older guy like me from Holland. He was loving his Rohloff and belt drive. His bike was empty for city riding at the time. He had taken the train getting over the rough mountains to Chengdu.
Regarding the sound from a Rohloff owner with some miles on it (almost 50,000km): you will have pedalling some noise from for the lowest seven gears, especially prononced gears 5 and 7. The sound will get a bit quieter after a few thousand Kilometers and at colder temperatures. The freehub sound is only in Gear 8-14, the first seven gears are quiet. Only very few people in Berlin ride Rohloffs, but many of them do ride them intensively. I am one of them, having two bikes with a Rohloff. The good thing about a Rohloff hub is, that you can take them to the next bike (the highest recorded milage is almost 500,000km, which is mental). I like your aerobar-setup, I put it on my rigid MTB as well.
I never saw any when I visited Berlin a few years ago, but I did see many more internal hubs than I see here. This hub has about 2000 km on it now and it isn’t really noisy. It’s just on the noisier side of traditional gearing. I’m very satisfied.
@@UnchainedCyclist You probably visited as a tourist and I can assure you, that I will avoid touristic routes on my daily commute if I can do so. I would say that Rohloff sells most of their hubs to either Touring cyclists (mostly used outside of cities) or heavy-ish commuters who will optimise their routes to avoid congested areas and also tend to stick to the morning and evening hours. But compared to hilly cities like Stuttgart, internal gear hubs are in Berlin way more prevelant (30-50%) whereas the Rohloff is maybe 1% or less of those hubs. In Stuttgart the number of Rohloff hubs is significant higher but then other interal hubs are less common.
@@JeroenKleijn-m9r it was an option, but it’s my understanding that you would need horizontal drop outs for tensioning. Also, in the unlikely event of a breakage, belts are not readily available.
Great vid! I stumbled upon it while looking for the most recent rohloff videos. I was thrilled because I also have a Disc Trucker (albeit more recent than yours so a rohloff conversion would be more complicated because of thru axles). I was even more thrilled when I noticed you're in Montreal as well! Did you do the rohloff conversion yourself or did you have a bike shop do it, if so which?
Thanks, it’s a Zefal frame pump. They come in different lengths for different frames, but they actually fit into the little nipple at the front and spring pressure in the back. I use a Velcro strap to make sure it doesn’t go anywhere, but I think that’s just me being over cautious.
Hi, can you please tell me do you need a special "crank set" from shimano in order to put a 4iiii precision 3 crank power meter? To sum it up can I just put that 4iiii precision 3 on a FSA Comet crankset?
@@UnchainedCyclistthey will if the cables are exposed, I have frayed enough brake cables doing bike deliveries downtown to know that "self lubricating" cable housings would still need help from grease. I don't have a rohloff but I have heard shift happy rohloff users fraying cables.
Yup. deFAILeurs are the NUTSO on any transportation bike. Only IGH on my 3 bikes now. I do 100 mile rides on my CCM 3 speed too. That bike I had in Montreal for 3 days on my car/ bike tour in 2019. The thousands of speed bumps are crazy insane there. WTF.
Pretty good setup except the typical Surly fit >> Too SMALL. LOL That's a 54 cm?? There's a whole 6" between bar and the bottom of the seat plus setback post. I have 1" post showing on my custom, and all the other level bikes I ever owned. I made a CF chaincase, well worth the effort. The last chain did 4,000 miles before I even cleaned it. Leave the factory grease as is on a new chain!!! Half a chain guard is better than nothing.
I have a full swept chrome comfort bar from the 1970s. I put the shifter on the toptube with a post I made, no flopping cables for me.
It looks like you have the wimpy light folding lock, useless IMO. My Granite one is mounted the same in a CF container I made. I do leave it at home on 100 mile day rides that I do dozens of. I also have a longer chain and key lock for around bigger trees.
My front hub is a SA XL-FDD dyno DRUM brake, absolutely flawless stopping in any weather. First one has 33,000 miles. Thru axle sucks IMO.
And about the noise, mine didn't really quiet down and coast better until 18,000 miles, now it has 21,700. Got it in 2014, then went to Vietnam and China. Where I saw a tall guy in Saigon that did the same as you on an LHT. He hadn't started his ride yet, me either actually. Then in Hanoi I saw an older guy like me from Holland. He was loving his Rohloff and belt drive. His bike was empty for city riding at the time. He had taken the train getting over the rough mountains to Chengdu.
Regarding the sound from a Rohloff owner with some miles on it (almost 50,000km): you will have pedalling some noise from for the lowest seven gears, especially prononced gears 5 and 7. The sound will get a bit quieter after a few thousand Kilometers and at colder temperatures.
The freehub sound is only in Gear 8-14, the first seven gears are quiet.
Only very few people in Berlin ride Rohloffs, but many of them do ride them intensively. I am one of them, having two bikes with a Rohloff. The good thing about a Rohloff hub is, that you can take them to the next bike (the highest recorded milage is almost 500,000km, which is mental).
I like your aerobar-setup, I put it on my rigid MTB as well.
I never saw any when I visited Berlin a few years ago, but I did see many more internal hubs than I see here. This hub has about 2000 km on it now and it isn’t really noisy. It’s just on the noisier side of traditional gearing. I’m very satisfied.
@@UnchainedCyclist You probably visited as a tourist and I can assure you, that I will avoid touristic routes on my daily commute if I can do so.
I would say that Rohloff sells most of their hubs to either Touring cyclists (mostly used outside of cities) or heavy-ish commuters who will optimise their routes to avoid congested areas and also tend to stick to the morning and evening hours.
But compared to hilly cities like Stuttgart, internal gear hubs are in Berlin way more prevelant (30-50%) whereas the Rohloff is maybe 1% or less of those hubs. In Stuttgart the number of Rohloff hubs is significant higher but then other interal hubs are less common.
Nice video! Did you consider a gates belt drive?
@@JeroenKleijn-m9r it was an option, but it’s my understanding that you would need horizontal drop outs for tensioning. Also, in the unlikely event of a breakage, belts are not readily available.
Great vid! I stumbled upon it while looking for the most recent rohloff videos. I was thrilled because I also have a Disc Trucker (albeit more recent than yours so a rohloff conversion would be more complicated because of thru axles). I was even more thrilled when I noticed you're in Montreal as well! Did you do the rohloff conversion yourself or did you have a bike shop do it, if so which?
Go to Velodidacte off Mont Royal. Insist on a 36 spoke rim though.
nice set up dude, i have rohloff aswell on my 2 bikes. what pump are you using? and how its mounted? cheers
Thanks, it’s a Zefal frame pump. They come in different lengths for different frames, but they actually fit into the little nipple at the front and spring pressure in the back. I use a Velcro strap to make sure it doesn’t go anywhere, but I think that’s just me being over cautious.
Hi, can you please tell me do you need a special "crank set" from shimano in order to put a 4iiii precision 3 crank power meter? To sum it up can I just put that 4iiii precision 3 on a FSA Comet crankset?
Coat the shift cable in grease, do it to the brake cables too if you are running mechanicals.
Never saw the need to grease cables. IT seems to attract more dirt than it's worth.
@@UnchainedCyclistthey will if the cables are exposed, I have frayed enough brake cables doing bike deliveries downtown to know that "self lubricating" cable housings would still need help from grease. I don't have a rohloff but I have heard shift happy rohloff users fraying cables.
@@Finnv893 I’ve just never had this problem.