I am so looking forward to reading this book Elif Shafak well done❤ I’ve read everything you have written and each book has been a gem of creativity. This morning watching this discussion I look outside my window at the birdbath hosting sparrows, finches, and scrub jays. I don’t feed birds, I just make sure the birdbath is filled with water.❤️🌵
Excellent conversation;RE: questions of ownership.... the British Museum owns artifacts they took from their original places....NO ONE really owns anything. We are all here on this beautiful planet as part of a continuum and the illusion of ownership creates hierarchy, separation and dominances. It is an aberration of thinking. Museums have the potential to reflect and demonstrate our shared humanity and create understanding and relative truths in the acquisitions in their care. Elif Shafak is a treasure.
How would you feel if your country was seiged and before you could connect with your artifacts inherited from your ancestors, stollen opportunitistically using excuse of gèneration wars ( non-ending crusades), instead leaving people with amnesia and under the mercy of interpreted fictional stories written in return in favour by whom where the writer herself seeking refuge to create materials ( replacing Hi-story with Her-stories) for generous gains to secure her family financially and politically while undermining the country she claims she is from . .... Her stories will no doubt serve the bitter colonialism in Middle East better to stomach by her Western audiences with her silver tounge self indulgent fictional books to increase appetite for more theo-geo-political raptures until its under full control
Bugün sonbahar ekinoksu . Güne her zaman gittiğim nehir kenarında başladım , sonra mezarlıkta yürüşüşle devam ettim. Akşam ateş yaktım . Bırakmak istediğim şeyleri yazıp ateşe attım , meditasyon yaptım. Sonra Excalibur ‘u izledim. ( Filmi izlerken ismimin anlamı , sonra oğlumun, eşimin ve kedilerimin isimlerinin anlamları arasındaki bağlantıyı fark ettim. Adım Nurcan fakat yakın zamanda ismimi River olarak değiştirdim. Bugün seri halinde birbirine bağlı olağanüstü şeyler fark ediliyorum. Sizi dikkatle dinliyorum ve kitabı son derece merak ediyorum. Bakalım bana neler söyleyecek.
Isn't Elif Shafak from Strasbourg? I checked her biography, and she is the daughter of a diplomat. Her father has a PhD, so she grew up in some of the largest cities in the world, like Boston, Berlin, Jordan, Anlara, Istanbul etc. Why does she keep saying she is from the Middle East? Well, I guess back in the late 1990s, when she started to become famous, saying you were from the Middle East was perhaps considered 'authentic,' so she might have taken advantage of this. But let's be clear, she comes from a privileged family and is not from the Middle East, literally.
She is from THE MIDDLE EAST. But her family is also nomadic moving from one country to another. She never hid this. But that doesnt change the fact she CAME FROM THE MIDDLE EAST which is also the same as SHE IS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST.
@@elfazaziaomar1457She simply says that she is claiming to be Middle Eastern. This is untrue. She is only using this identity to give the illusion of authentic origin to appeal to her Brithish audience for credibility. As the so called ' Herstory instead of History' fiction based book backed by Brithish Museum to create somewhat interpretated substance to give flavour of reality to more upcoming wars of theo- geo political raptures in Middle East ...Thought provoking herstories(mostly fictional) hope to appetise more popularity for opportunistic colonial engineering in middle east.
I am so looking forward to reading this book Elif Shafak well done❤ I’ve read everything you have written and each book has been a gem of creativity. This morning watching this discussion I look outside my window at the birdbath hosting sparrows, finches, and scrub jays. I don’t feed birds, I just make sure the birdbath is filled with water.❤️🌵
Excellent conversation;RE: questions of ownership.... the British Museum owns artifacts they took from their original places....NO ONE really owns anything. We are all here on this beautiful planet as part of a continuum and the illusion of ownership creates hierarchy, separation and dominances. It is an aberration of thinking. Museums have the potential to reflect and demonstrate our shared humanity and create understanding and relative truths in the acquisitions in their care. Elif Shafak is a treasure.
How would you feel if your country was seiged and before you could connect with your artifacts inherited from your ancestors, stollen opportunitistically using excuse of gèneration wars ( non-ending crusades), instead leaving people with amnesia and under the mercy of interpreted fictional stories written in return in favour by whom where the writer herself seeking refuge to create materials ( replacing Hi-story with Her-stories) for generous gains to secure her family financially and politically while undermining the country she claims she is from . .... Her stories will no doubt serve the bitter colonialism in Middle East better to stomach by her Western audiences with her silver tounge self indulgent fictional books to increase appetite for more theo-geo-political raptures until its under full control
best conversation ive heard in a long time, please show this in schools
Here immediately for Mary Beard. She so good.
Marvellous talking. I have understood an illectual conversation for probably the first time. Thank you everyone who have contributed. ❤
I am thoroughly captivated by this discussion of the book and the subsequent conversation between Mary Beard and the inspiring author Elif Shafak.
Mary Beard, best person to host this conversation/debate after her 'Civilzations'.
Thank you
I’m not sure which keys this turned but it helped hugely in unlocking something important.
⚡️❤️💜💙⚡️
Thank you for sharing this
There are rivers in the sky... great title..❤️💯
Great Conversation , Fantastic Novel !
Fantastic Novel
I’m not the biggest fan of the BMs repatriation ideas, but I do love some Dame Mary Beard.
how about returning the assyrian collection to syria
Bugün sonbahar ekinoksu . Güne her zaman gittiğim nehir kenarında başladım , sonra mezarlıkta yürüşüşle devam ettim. Akşam ateş yaktım . Bırakmak istediğim şeyleri yazıp ateşe attım , meditasyon yaptım. Sonra Excalibur ‘u izledim. ( Filmi izlerken ismimin anlamı , sonra oğlumun, eşimin ve kedilerimin isimlerinin anlamları arasındaki bağlantıyı fark ettim.
Adım Nurcan fakat yakın zamanda ismimi River olarak değiştirdim.
Bugün seri halinde birbirine bağlı olağanüstü şeyler fark ediliyorum.
Sizi dikkatle dinliyorum ve kitabı son derece merak ediyorum.
Bakalım bana neler söyleyecek.
❤
Dear Elif, it's Turkiye, not Turkey. Please.
You have a great sense of humour.
Isn't Elif Shafak from Strasbourg? I checked her biography, and she is the daughter of a diplomat. Her father has a PhD, so she grew up in some of the largest cities in the world, like Boston, Berlin, Jordan, Anlara, Istanbul etc. Why does she keep saying she is from the Middle East? Well, I guess back in the late 1990s, when she started to become famous, saying you were from the Middle East was perhaps considered 'authentic,' so she might have taken advantage of this. But let's be clear, she comes from a privileged family and is not from the Middle East, literally.
She is Turkish!
@@elfazaziaomar1457 E ben de Türk’üm ve sorulduğunda böyle diyorum, “orta doğuluyum” demiyorum.
@@Mina-wz6gd I apologize if only you write in English so I can understand you.
She is from THE MIDDLE EAST. But her family is also nomadic moving from one country to another. She never hid this. But that doesnt change the fact she CAME FROM THE MIDDLE EAST which is also the same as SHE IS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST.
@@elfazaziaomar1457She simply says that she is claiming to be Middle Eastern. This is untrue. She is only using this identity to give the illusion of authentic origin to appeal to her Brithish audience for credibility. As the so called ' Herstory instead of History' fiction based book backed by Brithish Museum to create somewhat interpretated substance to give flavour of reality to more upcoming wars of theo- geo political raptures in Middle East ...Thought provoking herstories(mostly fictional) hope to appetise more popularity for opportunistic colonial engineering in middle east.
Where is the sky? I can not stand Mary Beard's voice. So I can not tolerate her history videos. The other woman has a pleasant voice.