Lots of info! Here are the Timestamps for those with shorter attention spans... 0:00 Intro 1:30 hammer time (analogy) 3:30 Wrist set - Too much or too little 6:00 What cause the scoop 8:39 Start of the drill 10:07 How to practice properly
0:31 hi Chris, thank you so much for your videos. May I make a minor grammatical suggestion ? Use ‘I’ instead of ‘we’ since there is one of you in the video.
Hi Chris, I’m a new subscriber and I kinda like your instructions because it’s common sense stuff that I’m aware of. What other instructors are doing is that they’re delivering the same lessons but when they demo, most are using hi irons that are easy to play ie 8 or 9 or sometimes a 7. Can you demo on a 3 or 4 iron as those are the clubs that we’re struggling with. Thanks man…🤙🏽
First off, welcome to the channel and I can absolutely do some videos demonstrating long(er) irons in the near future. There wont be any real measurable difference in the way that I am swinging, but it should give people the confidence they need to pick up the longer clubs and get to work. Long live the 3 and 4 iron. Thank YOU for your suggestion.
The hammer analogy was more for the suppleness of the wrist cocking and uncocking of without rotating or actively trying to move the wrist towards extension. I’d check out the video where I discuss not turning the body through impact to learn the right arm function and then blend that back to this video.
Makes me think of Pete Cowen in that Danny Maude video where he keeps saying, "pressure dahn!!" Interesting that you aren't a fan of that. I've been working on trying to "spin my forearms down" like he suggests, but it's been tough. How do I keep the wrists from releasing? When I come in through delivery there doesn't seem to be anything I can do to stop my wrists from releasing and flipping. Is it a matter of always accelerating and keeping pressure on the club?
I'm way too familiar with that one! I have corrected a few players in the past with that sort of mindset BUT it's only because the student is not showing any signs of commitment to fixing the real problem at hand which is sequence sequence sequence. The hands and arms will get moved deep into the hitting area by our good friend gravity and a whole bunch of leg/hip action. The only reason why someone would not see an increase in lag or lean would be from the hips shutting down too early. Keeping pressure on it, can certainly help some people overcome a scoopy position but at the end of the day, it's band aid (queue up the Cowen keyboard warriors) for poor sequence.
I've watched that video and have to say I'm not entirely convinced with what Cowen is teaching, even Danny looks perplexed in the video. I've tried spinning the forearms but lose distance and ball goes left.
@@MyGolfDNA Understood. One of the things that has helped several aspects of my swing is to start my hands/arms down from the top instead of towards the ball. Makes me suspect I'm not rotating enough before impact, which other things have pointed to as well. On camera it seems like my hips are open, but it can be hard to tell. I'll have to go exaggerate it. Thanks for the video!
Look, there are a number of approaches to the golf swing, I have looked at the Cowen/Maude video as well and that's Pete's approach; it also, IIRC, is advocated by the Swedish instructor Markus Edblad, I hope I have that correct. You can also pick it up from a TGM instructor. You squeeze the ball between the club and the ground. In this video I think Chris was being very fair, he didn't say it's WRONG and if you try it you won't hit the ball ANYWHERE (I mean, it IS Pete Cowen), but he did point out that it can be very jarring on the wrists and arms, which is IMO correct. The loose wrist is advocated by Paul Wilson (who is looked down on by many golfers) and even Todd Graves, and the latter points out exactly what Chris does in another video; you develop swing speed, ironically, by rotating your arms in the down swing and then STOPPING, letting the wrists fling the hands past your lead thigh. Chris used the analogy of hammering a nail, and the way you do that is to bring the forearm down and then stop, letting the wrist drive the hammer into the nailhead. Very effective. All of the preceding is just IMO, of course. Thanks again to Chris for offering free content.
I feel like the golf swing has to be a combination of both. I tend to leave the control to the lead side and allow the trail side to work in unison with the lead side to produce speed.
While watching your last shot... I realized that while we've been presented with the fork & show... we have not yet been treated to a master class of "How to properly twirl the club" after a great shot... or better yet, after a disastrous shot...
Thanks for the video. The entire golfing community has to stop talking about shaft lean....it's BS. I see guys on the range every day trying to control the hand and wrist over the top of the club. There is no such thing as Shaft LEAN...it's simply letting your hands lead the swing AS you rotate forward, ensuring the arch of the swing - lead by the hands - is maintained. COVERING the ball VIA shaft lean is another bogus theory (IMO). If you lead with your hands AND rotate AND finish with weight forward...you'll cover the ball naturally.
Depends on the grip, the current state of the AOA, the path and what sort of shot you’re trying to hit. Based on all of that, I can’t give a blanket number of degrees that would work across the board. You could start from a static address position and move your body and wrists to an impact position where the club is square and delofted, then try to work through that position and see if you achieve the desired ball flight. I have a grip video that talks a little about this on the channel I believe. Start with that and let me know if you need something further.
@@Lubo-qd2zs It's a little irresponsible of me to tell you yes without seeing the swing shape but yes, you can start by steepening up a bit and see what sort of results you get.
Lots of info! Here are the Timestamps for those with shorter attention spans...
0:00 Intro
1:30 hammer time (analogy)
3:30 Wrist set - Too much or too little
6:00 What cause the scoop
8:39 Start of the drill
10:07 How to practice properly
0:31 hi Chris, thank you so much for your videos. May I make a minor grammatical suggestion ? Use ‘I’ instead of ‘we’ since there is one of you in the video.
Brilliant...lose control to gain control...outstanding my man!
Bow Wow quote got me 😂
Hi Chris, I’m a new subscriber and I kinda like your instructions because it’s common sense stuff that I’m aware of. What other instructors are doing is that they’re delivering the same lessons but when they demo, most are using hi irons that are easy to play ie 8 or 9 or sometimes a 7. Can you demo on a 3 or 4 iron as those are the clubs that we’re struggling with. Thanks man…🤙🏽
First off, welcome to the channel and I can absolutely do some videos demonstrating long(er) irons in the near future. There wont be any real measurable difference in the way that I am swinging, but it should give people the confidence they need to pick up the longer clubs and get to work. Long live the 3 and 4 iron. Thank YOU for your suggestion.
10:00 continuing with your hammer analogy, so if I imagine I have a hammer 🔨 in my hand, am I hitting the ball with the side of the hammer at impact?
The hammer analogy was more for the suppleness of the wrist cocking and uncocking of without rotating or actively trying to move the wrist towards extension. I’d check out the video where I discuss not turning the body through impact to learn the right arm function and then blend that back to this video.
Great Advice…..sometimes less is more!
So true!
Makes me think of Pete Cowen in that Danny Maude video where he keeps saying, "pressure dahn!!" Interesting that you aren't a fan of that. I've been working on trying to "spin my forearms down" like he suggests, but it's been tough.
How do I keep the wrists from releasing? When I come in through delivery there doesn't seem to be anything I can do to stop my wrists from releasing and flipping. Is it a matter of always accelerating and keeping pressure on the club?
I'm way too familiar with that one! I have corrected a few players in the past with that sort of mindset BUT it's only because the student is not showing any signs of commitment to fixing the real problem at hand which is sequence sequence sequence. The hands and arms will get moved deep into the hitting area by our good friend gravity and a whole bunch of leg/hip action. The only reason why someone would not see an increase in lag or lean would be from the hips shutting down too early. Keeping pressure on it, can certainly help some people overcome a scoopy position but at the end of the day, it's band aid (queue up the Cowen keyboard warriors) for poor sequence.
I've watched that video and have to say I'm not entirely convinced with what Cowen is teaching, even Danny looks perplexed in the video. I've tried spinning the forearms but lose distance and ball goes left.
@@MyGolfDNA Understood. One of the things that has helped several aspects of my swing is to start my hands/arms down from the top instead of towards the ball. Makes me suspect I'm not rotating enough before impact, which other things have pointed to as well. On camera it seems like my hips are open, but it can be hard to tell. I'll have to go exaggerate it. Thanks for the video!
Look, there are a number of approaches to the golf swing, I have looked at the Cowen/Maude video as well and that's Pete's approach; it also, IIRC, is advocated by the Swedish instructor Markus Edblad, I hope I have that correct. You can also pick it up from a TGM instructor. You squeeze the ball between the club and the ground. In this video I think Chris was being very fair, he didn't say it's WRONG and if you try it you won't hit the ball ANYWHERE (I mean, it IS Pete Cowen), but he did point out that it can be very jarring on the wrists and arms, which is IMO correct. The loose wrist is advocated by Paul Wilson (who is looked down on by many golfers) and even Todd Graves, and the latter points out exactly what Chris does in another video; you develop swing speed, ironically, by rotating your arms in the down swing and then STOPPING, letting the wrists fling the hands past your lead thigh. Chris used the analogy of hammering a nail, and the way you do that is to bring the forearm down and then stop, letting the wrist drive the hammer into the nailhead. Very effective. All of the preceding is just IMO, of course. Thanks again to Chris for offering free content.
Great Advice video tips
Great content 👍 Do you feel like the swing is more trail or lead side dominate? Thx
I feel like the golf swing has to be a combination of both. I tend to leave the control to the lead side and allow the trail side to work in unison with the lead side to produce speed.
While watching your last shot... I realized that while we've been presented with the fork & show... we have not yet been treated to a master class of "How to properly twirl the club" after a great shot... or better yet, after a disastrous shot...
Maybe I bring back the fork and show for the wider audience. Adding these golden ideas to the list.
Thanks for the video. The entire golfing community has to stop talking about shaft lean....it's BS. I see guys on the range every day trying to control the hand and wrist over the top of the club. There is no such thing as Shaft LEAN...it's simply letting your hands lead the swing AS you rotate forward, ensuring the arch of the swing - lead by the hands - is maintained. COVERING the ball VIA shaft lean is another bogus theory (IMO). If you lead with your hands AND rotate AND finish with weight forward...you'll cover the ball naturally.
How much flexion is appropriate in trail wrist at impact? Thanks
Depends on the grip, the current state of the AOA, the path and what sort of shot you’re trying to hit. Based on all of that, I can’t give a blanket number of degrees that would work across the board. You could start from a static address position and move your body and wrists to an impact position where the club is square and delofted, then try to work through that position and see if you achieve the desired ball flight. I have a grip video that talks a little about this on the channel I believe. Start with that and let me know if you need something further.
I seem to hook the ball left when swinging without tension, but my strike is excellent
That could and will happen if your swing plane and AOA are too shallow.
@@MyGolfDNA so you suggest trying to swing a little steeper?
@@Lubo-qd2zs It's a little irresponsible of me to tell you yes without seeing the swing shape but yes, you can start by steepening up a bit and see what sort of results you get.
I meant to say extension!
Just say NO..... To Tension!