From reading korean comments under some clips i thought that the list would be really biased, but its a big surprise. I think that it has some obvious flaws like putting bdd so high, but overall its seems pretty good.
i don't think bdd is too high. ofcourse his international performence was not very good lately but i think he's same level as faker right now. and geng without bdd wil never go to worlds as 2nd seed
@@Hechyyy It's really hard to say how good EU players are without having said EU players face against asian teams. EU hasn't won Worlds since Asians entered the competition, so far they have always been the second weakest major region. So saying somebody is amazing in EU in current year is pointless because they have only played against other EU players, this year.
For the most part the meta has always had a heavy influence on mid lane. ADC still requires mid lane to get the push so you can get river control and a jungler to support your pressure.
Some how beryl is higher ranked than both meiko and crisp just let that set in. Canna is somehow on the list, if canna is going to be on the list then nuguri should be over him. Not that either should be me on the list based on their summer split performances
Canna isn't near top 20! There are a decent amount of supports better than Beryl like Kaiser,Crisp, Meiko, Kaiwing, maybe even Corejj! If you put Bdd on the list you might as well put Perkz in here who historically has always been a top 20 player!
I agree Meiko/Crisp should be higher than Beryl but it's not really that unbelievable. Koreans watch LCK and not as much LPL/LEC, which makes sense. It's not too different from the Reddit posts we see where people who only watch NA wonder where Alphari or Closer are.
Canna has been the best performance in T1 last split. He is so underrated. The only time he didnt win his lane was when DK literally camped him whole early game. Then, he is always up in CS and pressure, also won some 2v1. His Gnar, Kennen and Gwen were top this last split. You may have to rewatch their games.
2nd adc in the world .. in 2021? well is kinda 2nd adc in T1 (benched to let Gumi play) at this point with how he performs. And none of them are in top 5 ADC at this world! You guys have to stop with the LCK bias.
idk man, tarzan never ints, his whole career he has just never flipped and has only made correct plays. Plus canyon has showmaker, tarzan has icon. Im fine with tarzan just being behind canyon until he earns that spot as best jg again
Players from EU that should be in the top 20: Humanoid, Kaiser, Elyoya, Hylissang and Inspired possibly Hans Sama/Upset but T1 botlaners didn't even make the list so they shouldn't either!
LNG Chovy, FPX Gumayusi, Sm and canyon have been playing together for years in pro play and solo queue as friend they are a big part of each others game, it’s a waste to seperate them
I backed him once and got flamed for it so I think he's too high since people that watch him frequently think he's overrated and chokes when it matters.
@@AbyssContent The only non-Korean LPL players that were voted on the list are on RNG, and RNG just happens to be the team that beat Korea at MSI. What are the odds? :)
@@MrSlade138 The thing like RNG is that they have much trust in non-Korean talents, they don't go with the trend in LPL by getting Korean talents. Thus, they often times attract real Chinese talents. I didn't expect that even KR community would acknowledge these chinese talents.
@@sriraamsritharan4691 I dont thin they should be on this list. I dont mean that they are bad. But the balance between the region is not right. I think other player should be more worth to be on this list.
@@sriraamsritharan4691 Here my top 25 list: 1.) Showmaker (DWG) 2.) Chovy (HLE) 3.) DoinB (FPX) 4.) Canyon (DWG) 5.) Tarzan (LNG) 6.) Crisp (FPX) 7.) Hans sama (RGE) 8.) Scout (EDG) 9.) Inspired (RGE) 10.) Hylissang (FNC) 11.) Viper (EDG) 12.) Elyoya (MAD) 13.) Ruler (GenG) 14.) Ming (RNG) 15.) Faker (SKT) 16.) Meiko (EDG) 17.) Tian (FPX) 18.) Teddy/Gumayusi (SKT) 19.) Humanoid (MAD) 20.) Kaiser (MAD) 21.) Keria (SKT) 22.) Gala (RNG) 23.) JieJie (EDG) 24.) Ghost (DWG) 25.) Upset (FNC) I think this list is pretty fair. I tried to balance the region strength pretty good. Top 25 (LCK8 / LPL10 / LEC7) ; Top 20 (LCK6 / LPL 8 / LEC6). Just maybe Keria is a bit too deep. But in my (unimportant) opinion many people are overrating him (same for Viper, but I know that he is a insane player). In my opinion the top 22 player from my list have to be in a top worlds list for sure (without looking to the order).
The fact that half of the LPL players on this list are on RNG, and the other half is Korean, tells me the Korean community doesn't watch any LPL and just ended up voting some LPL players that could help them cope with the loss at MSI.
@@konnichiwaminnasan3021 I was thinking to put Nuguri in the list, because I know that he is probably the best toplaners in the tournament. But I think the topplayers are very stacked at this world. I also could put Armut in the list, who was Spring and Summer Final MVP. So I decide to put no toplaners in this list. I had to do priorities that the list stays fair. And I am "personally" not a big fan of Khan and Xiaohu. Crisp is an insane support. I just feel people dont see what Crisp bring to FPX. Its not just the Doinb show. But yeah Ming and Meiko are insane players as well, I know. But I have high respect to Crisp, because he is so underrated. I am also sad that I didnt put IWandy in my list. He is an underrated support as well. And I think the balance of the regions in this list is very fair --> Top 25 (LCK8 / LPL10 / LEC7) ; Top 20 (LCK6 / LPL 8 / LEC6)
From reading korean comments under some clips i thought that the list would be really biased, but its a big surprise. I think that it has some obvious flaws like putting bdd so high, but overall its seems pretty good.
i don't think bdd is too high. ofcourse his international performence was not very good lately but i think he's same level as faker right now. and geng without bdd wil never go to worlds as 2nd seed
@@gggonext9302 bdd and faker both arent above hyli. hyli has been amazing for A WHILE
@@Hechyyy you're right but it's from korean community. and in korea it's almost 1am when lec starts so there are not many peaple watching lec
@@Hechyyy It's really hard to say how good EU players are without having said EU players face against asian teams. EU hasn't won Worlds since Asians entered the competition, so far they have always been the second weakest major region. So saying somebody is amazing in EU in current year is pointless because they have only played against other EU players, this year.
Nope since EUW players are inside
I'm a bit surprised a Korean tier list didn't rank Faker higher.
Midlane are always rated higher. Adc and top lane got no love.
thats so true I would pick viper and gala both higher and where the fk is nuguri???? Canna is on the list but nuguri not? wtf
@@mysticaldevotion863 Tbf nugiri hasn’t been performing that good but I would also put nuguri over canna.
Meiko and crisp not on the list is kinda dumb
For the most part the meta has always had a heavy influence on mid lane. ADC still requires mid lane to get the push so you can get river control and a jungler to support your pressure.
@@oreoyo5639 Xiaohu > Nuguri and Canna
hope everything is good my man
Some how beryl is higher ranked than both meiko and crisp just let that set in. Canna is somehow on the list, if canna is going to be on the list then nuguri should be over him. Not that either should be me on the list based on their summer split performances
Canna isn't near top 20!
There are a decent amount of supports better than Beryl like Kaiser,Crisp, Meiko, Kaiwing, maybe even Corejj!
If you put Bdd on the list you might as well put Perkz in here who historically has always been a top 20 player!
I agree Meiko/Crisp should be higher than Beryl but it's not really that unbelievable. Koreans watch LCK and not as much LPL/LEC, which makes sense. It's not too different from the Reddit posts we see where people who only watch NA wonder where Alphari or Closer are.
Canna has been the best performance in T1 last split. He is so underrated. The only time he didnt win his lane was when DK literally camped him whole early game. Then, he is always up in CS and pressure, also won some 2v1. His Gnar, Kennen and Gwen were top this last split. You may have to rewatch their games.
@@user-yg1hu6bo3y you had me on your side until perkz lmao
well... that ranking now all make sense except for Doinb
Can anyone tell me that does this channel is monetized?
what happened to league player clips hope that everything is good
imagine if Chovy Tarzan and Viper were on the same team 😯😲
Im still fan of that Griffin roster
Where is Teddy to me he's the 2nd best adc in the world and has looked phenomenal when he's playing
2nd adc in the world .. in 2021? well is kinda 2nd adc in T1 (benched to let Gumi play) at this point with how he performs. And none of them are in top 5 ADC at this world! You guys have to stop with the LCK bias.
Who’s first then gumayusi?? Lmao
15 seconds in and wtf are Beryl and Canna doing in here?
Bdd shouldn't be 11!
Top 10 seems pretty decent but I would put Canyon higher!
Canyon was my rank 1 before last year worlds started and still is, change my mind
idk man, tarzan never ints, his whole career he has just never flipped and has only made correct plays. Plus canyon has showmaker, tarzan has icon. Im fine with tarzan just being behind canyon until he earns that spot as best jg again
@@ColonelMeteorz i made a top 20 and canyon was 1 and tarzan 2 and i thought a long time about which player to make 1 but canyon is just superior imo
@@ColonelMeteorz its funny how this aged well rn thats hes jobless
where is doublelift?!
Retired
An honorable mention. :P
@@tegansumei9772 it was an obvious joke
list of can not get out group
May not be on the list, but remains in my heart
whats the context with that list? korean fans voted or?
korean community power ranking i think
Y r we putting Beryl and Hyli above Ruler? 😭😭😭
his recent performance was not that good and his champion pool is bad
@@gggonext9302 that's kinda recency bias 💀💀💀. He is typically very consistent
@@gggonext9302 champion pool bad? Ruler?
@@tegansumei9772 but we are basing this off of recent events. otherwise faker is number 1, we all know that
@@jussanoodle we have to look at the 2 latest splits, not just playoffs tho.
i agree that the only 3 western players that should be on this.list are hyli, elyoya, and humanoid
Kaiser>> hyli
Inspired and Kaiser though 🤔
@@user-yg1hu6bo3y inspired literally went 0-6
Players from EU that should be in the top 20: Humanoid, Kaiser, Elyoya, Hylissang and Inspired possibly Hans Sama/Upset but T1 botlaners didn't even make the list so they shouldn't either!
No Bin or Angel damn
they arent at worlds, if this was a top 20 in general, than you would see actual god toplaners as well on the list.
Showmaker and Chovy should join LPL :)😊😉👍
LNG Chovy, FPX Gumayusi, Sm and canyon have been playing together for years in pro play and solo queue as friend they are a big part of each others game, it’s a waste to seperate them
Keria should be in the top 10
I backed him once and got flamed for it so I think he's too high since people that watch him frequently think he's overrated and chokes when it matters.
Wait where is nuguri ?
He's busy inting another game.
Scout above canyon and tarzan wtf?
yeah im really surprised about that, Scout is just Caps level mid. No way hes better than Faker and Humanoid.
also No Teddy and Guma in the top 20 what the hell??
Scout gigasmurfed lpl finals g1-g3
Scout is actually really good maybe not better than Canyon and Tarzan but he has actually been amazing for EDG
@@liyuu7033 lol at u cringer
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
Dead channel?
no teddy LOOL
You could .. you know... watch some LCK before commenting? Teddy is the backup adc in T1.
@@pintesculandrei2300 i literally watched all of lck this year, the fact that he didnt play that much doesnt define his power level
Chovy is definetly is not 3rd. He is the best.
Like Canna but no Nuguri 🤮
Beryl but no Crisp or Kaiser 🤔
ikr, putting only doinb from FPX when they literally slaughetered everyone but the finals is a crime
@@AbyssContent The only non-Korean LPL players that were voted on the list are on RNG, and RNG just happens to be the team that beat Korea at MSI. What are the odds? :)
@@MrSlade138 The thing like RNG is that they have much trust in non-Korean talents, they don't go with the trend in LPL by getting Korean talents. Thus, they often times attract real Chinese talents. I didn't expect that even KR community would acknowledge these chinese talents.
the list is pretty fair
nah, not really. But didnt expect something other, its from the korea community
@@derTsunami7 i mean beryl and bdd should be on the list other than that everyone on this list is good but could be in different order
@@derTsunami7 i would personally add kaiser,upset or wei here but yeah
@@sriraamsritharan4691 I dont thin they should be on this list. I dont mean that they are bad. But the balance between the region is not right. I think other player should be more worth to be on this list.
@@sriraamsritharan4691 Here my top 25 list:
1.) Showmaker (DWG)
2.) Chovy (HLE)
3.) DoinB (FPX)
4.) Canyon (DWG)
5.) Tarzan (LNG)
6.) Crisp (FPX)
7.) Hans sama (RGE)
8.) Scout (EDG)
9.) Inspired (RGE)
10.) Hylissang (FNC)
11.) Viper (EDG)
12.) Elyoya (MAD)
13.) Ruler (GenG)
14.) Ming (RNG)
15.) Faker (SKT)
16.) Meiko (EDG)
17.) Tian (FPX)
18.) Teddy/Gumayusi (SKT)
19.) Humanoid (MAD)
20.) Kaiser (MAD)
21.) Keria (SKT)
22.) Gala (RNG)
23.) JieJie (EDG)
24.) Ghost (DWG)
25.) Upset (FNC)
I think this list is pretty fair. I tried to balance the region strength pretty good. Top 25 (LCK8 / LPL10 / LEC7) ; Top 20 (LCK6 / LPL 8 / LEC6).
Just maybe Keria is a bit too deep. But in my (unimportant) opinion many people are overrating him (same for Viper, but I know that he is a insane player).
In my opinion the top 22 player from my list have to be in a top worlds list for sure (without looking to the order).
doinb at number one lmao, ls gonna have a field day
The fact that half of the LPL players on this list are on RNG, and the other half is Korean, tells me the Korean community doesn't watch any LPL and just ended up voting some LPL players that could help them cope with the loss at MSI.
Why is there no khan???? Khan>>>canna
0 NA trash omegalul
maybe top 50 will be NA
Here my top 25 list:
1.) Showmaker (DWG)
2.) Chovy (HLE)
3.) DoinB (FPX)
4.) Canyon (DWG)
5.) Tarzan (LNG)
6.) Crisp (FPX)
7.) Hans sama (RGE)
8.) Scout (EDG)
9.) Inspired (RGE)
10.) Hylissang (FNC)
11.) Viper (EDG)
12.) Elyoya (MAD)
13.) Ruler (GenG)
14.) Ming (RNG)
15.) Faker (SKT)
16.) Meiko (EDG)
17.) Tian (FPX)
18.) Teddy/Gumayusi (SKT)
19.) Humanoid (MAD)
20.) Kaiser (MAD)
21.) Keria (SKT)
22.) Gala (RNG)
23.) JieJie (EDG)
24.) Ghost (DWG)
25.) Upset (FNC)
cringeeeee hans sama is not top 25 upset could be higher though
Hans Sama and Inspired over Teddy, Ruler, Gala, and Gumayusi?
Wtf Crisp>Ming,Meiko and where is Xiaohu,Khan,Nuguri? Is Top laner low priority?But they should above someone like Ghost for sure.
@@tegansumei9772 yes of course. I think Im very objective. Dont overestimate east players like every year.
@@konnichiwaminnasan3021 I was thinking to put Nuguri in the list, because I know that he is probably the best toplaners in the tournament. But I think the topplayers are very stacked at this world. I also could put Armut in the list, who was Spring and Summer Final MVP. So I decide to put no toplaners in this list. I had to do priorities that the list stays fair. And I am "personally" not a big fan of Khan and Xiaohu.
Crisp is an insane support. I just feel people dont see what Crisp bring to FPX. Its not just the Doinb show. But yeah Ming and Meiko are insane players as well, I know. But I have high respect to Crisp, because he is so underrated. I am also sad that I didnt put IWandy in my list. He is an underrated support as well.
And I think the balance of the regions in this list is very fair --> Top 25 (LCK8 / LPL10 / LEC7) ; Top 20 (LCK6 / LPL 8 / LEC6)