1965 Pontiac Catalina 2+2 for sale 421 8 lug car appraisal and PPI inspection Michigan
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Michigan native and certified auto appraiser Jason Phillips inspected this very cool 421 1965 Pontiac Catalina 2 + 2 hardtop. An original California produced car, it lived in CA much of it's life. It reportedly came equipped with it's original 421 337 hp engine, turbo 400 tranny and 10 bolt rear end. Showing just under 100,000 miles, it has a well survived interior and a good magnetic pull all around the body. Floors are solid as a rock. Decent quality driver repaint with some flaws.
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This is one of my favorite Pontiacs-I like it better than the GTO...
Yes ...they were great
Absolutely agree!
A super rare car!
My dad had a 1964 Catalina 2+2 hardtop with the 421 SD motor and factory Tri-Power. (3-2bbl carbs) Car had silver paint and black 2+2 leather seats and dash to rear seat full length console. 3sp. auto trans. Car was very quick and beautiful.
Wow, I remember working on these cars when they were new. Fond memories.
I had a 65 Catalina in silver blue. Mine had a 389 with a 2 barrel carb and dual exhaust. The valve lifters were making noise so my mechanic said they had to be changed. Had him do the job but when I got the car back the oil pressure idiot light was on. I brought it back to him he said he will take care of it and I got it back the light was off. A few days later I was driving on the expressway and the engine blew and seized. I looked under the hood and noticed the oil pressure light wire was disconnected. What a scumbag I went back to him and he said he couldn’t do anything. I cursed him out and left. About 6 months later they closed him down for tax evasion and he wound up in jail
The rear frame tear holes are from a trailer hitch that got yanked really hard. Seen it before.
I think they need to be hammered flush & welded, car has frame damage I'd pass
Those silly vacuum gauges were popular in '65' for some reason. My father ordered a new Chev Impala SS with a 327/4bbl and then went with the vacuum gauge instead of a tach. When asked about that apparent oddity he explained he wanted to know when he was using a lot of fuel. To which I responded: "Why buy a 327/4bbl if you're concerned about economy?" No allowance for me that week! Imagine anyone buying a 421ci/330hp car then trying to keep the vacuum gauge in the green. LOL
My friend owned one and boy did that sucker go!!
I loved the Pontiacs of that mid-sixties time period.
hay love that Pontiac I had a 1965 Oldsmobile F-85 with a 330 rocket I paid 200.dollars for back in 1979 dam what memories
That was a bad ass car when it came out...but then again there were so many bad ass cars produced in that era of the 60s -70s. A friend of mines father purchased a brand new 66' Bonneville when we were 3rd grade. He bragged about it all day in school. After school I went home with him to look at it. And yeh...he had bonafide bragging rights. It was a factory built Lead Sled.
Awesome car, back in the day, my great uncle own one of these babies; even though these cars were before my time , I admire cars like these and other old cars. True Classics !!!!
This is a big car. Only a man trading in his cars every few years get special editions. This was a favorite. Suspension kit an option.
This is the first actual appraisal I've seen. Very interesting and entertaining. What would be a fair price for this car?
Great car, but I have collected, did ground up restorations and sold classics. This infatuation with 8 lug wheels means NOTHING . LOL.
That was my very first car in 1971 I miss it so much back then I think I paid $250 for that car and her name was Bertha butt That's the name I gave her she was a tough old mule never let me down me and my buddies there was six of us we would go stealing gas every night just to fill it up out on the farms in Minnesota yep my two plus two I miss it Best car I ever had she was a tough old b****
Beautiful machine. A real car. Everything on the road today looks alike. Except for Italian sports cars.
You shouldn't have painted it. Keep the factory paint!
My 65 389 Catalina had the dash PONTIAC emblem over the glove box as well. Stock.
Pontiacs always had great style, engine performance, especially their big block cars like the GTO and Firebird, as well as the Catalina. Very good body design with good aero dynamics. Especially GTO and Firebird. Excellent suspension as well in Pontiacs, this is about the time the rolled out the Wide Track I their cars. I had a 1978 Pontiac Phoenix with a 305 Chevy, small block V8. Had a 2 barrel carburetor; was thinking of installing a 4 barrel Holley, but changed my mind. It was one hot little car till the the camshaft got busted up, then I had to junk it.
First time I’ve ever heard of someone having a hot rod 305; but in a Phoenix, yeah sure. I’ve owned 2 Phoenix, 4 Grand Prix, 2 Catalina’s, 1 GTO, and currently have a Bonneville sitting in my garage. I will never forgive GM for shutting down PMD.
My 1st car 1972 Catalina, 2 barrel 400
I really enjoyed your appraisal. I hope you do more. Your appraisal service is well worth it.
You enjoyed this?
I find it fascinating to see all these intricate details of this car. I don't really know anything about these old cars myself (well not much) so this is very useful !
I found one of these for sale with a nice body but tired engine around 1976. $50. Really.
Bondo I made a wife out of Bondo...nothing sticks to her not even an apron..
I had a 65 2+2 convertible. It was a Tri-power 4spd. Indiana car 50% rust.
THEY SHOULD HAVE LEFT IT WHITE ! THIS SHADE OF BLUE IS NOT ORIGINAL ! FRAME DAMAGE !
The 421 on rad. cover is correct. All 1965 B body that had a 421 got the chrome 421 on the rad. cover You got the same 421 on the console.
kennethrobinson11231 Thank you for pointing that out, I was not aware. The last one I did didn't have a an emblem.
Sounds like if not the fan makeing that noise it might be the water pump! But its very nice!
What's the asking price on this?
18:28 stunning dash design!
I had a red one with a black spray on fake vinyl top when I was 16. Top speed was 135 MPH. And I took it there on a regular basis. It only got 10 MPG, but gasoline was less than 30¢ a gallon, so who cared? 😉
I had a 65 2+2, They look great with gran prix grilles!
TIM O 2+2=4
TIM O like mustang 2+2 fastback
She needs a few weekends of Detail in the engine bay and under car area but its a good car to start with. I last saw one in 1978 in a dark blue 2+2 and was only thinking about that car this week and this video came up. Good video ,,Steve in Australia
That frame damage in the back was caused by a cheap trailer hitch remember these are big cars they were used like a pick up truck
HAD FRAME, MOTOR, TO DO GOOD HAULIN.
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Car looks similar to the 1965 Pontiac Parisienne which was made in Canada.
What's it worth ? It's defiantly a nice car despite the small electrical issues
Spark plugs indicate rebuild was not recent, but still has break-in oil? Nice driver, hopefully someone will fully restore it. it would be worth it, but might not be a financial gain unless it's done personally. Weren't these offered with a tri-power?
boutcha yeah they were!!!!
I noticed the same thing. "less than a thousand miles on a rebuild." "The spark plugs are old." =?????? If I had a pile of money I would buy it and do a resto mod on it. Basically build the 421 with a bunch of go-fast goodies and put a automatic O/D behind it. Get the suspension up to speed and have a nice summer weekend fun machine. Those 8 lugs were cool as shit but I don't know if it is possible to put discs behind them, if not I can live with the drums.
15 to 18k in that condtion.
Just bought a handful of Pontiacs I still have to pick up. A 64 grand prix a 65 bonneville convertible 8 lug car and 67 bonneville convertible haven't yet opened the hoods on the convertibles
BOY WHAT A JEWEL...421 ENGINES HAD POOP...YUP...AND RIDE...IT HAS PIZZAZ...8 LUG RARE RIMS...GORGOUS...
I learned to drive on a 1965 2+2 421 w/ Rochester quadrajet and Turbohydromatic...burgundy paint which belonged to my brother.
421 emblem on core support is correct!!!
The size and font are not right. Located in the wrong place also. But your right. Pontiac did put engine size with embellished chrome emblem.
I had a 65 Buick Gran Sport, 401, Hurst shifter, a 65 Delta 88 convertible, and a 65 Chevelle as convertible. But none this nice.
I believe the 421 badge on the radiator support is correct. Actually, it's one of the 1st things to look for on 65 66 67 421 cid Cats an Bonnies.
Theres a lot of potential for damage taking alot of that stuff apart trying to make the car appear perfect. I think that car is better than a restored one.
Wow! Underneath a car jacked up on dirt with no jack stands.
William Olsen II, Jack Stand at 14:05
You must be 20
At least it wasn’t the bumper jack 😄
So what is it worth? Maybe he does not want to say publicly but appraisal in my mind has a number attached. I’m very wary of say Hagerty attempts to put a price on old cars. It’s not like a lot of 65 Pontiac’s are changing hands. I bought a 62 Grand Prix in July and I reserved Mecum so see what they have traded for.
Probably paid too much
My jackass uncle had one jus like that with a 4speed an 3twos
Nice ride for sure
I used to add alot of metal shavings in with the bondo.
I owned a 65 2+,2 excellent car,it would do.well over 130 mph with a 4 speed and positrack
Thorough but disturbing camera movement. Stopped watching.
The magnets cover rust spots and bubbles on the Maaco paint job. I'm always disgusted at salesmen, can't believe anything they say.
That thing is perfect.
Uh... no. The body is great but some things don't add up.
I'm buying a 66 Catalina soon. What did the buyer pay for this please?
I see these run from between $16,000 for a car like this up to $34,000 for a better more original colour and better paintjob... Barret Jackson sell these for 14 to 25k But Haggerty lists them for a lot less.
@@stevedriver1476 I paid $300 for my 19 and 65 Catalina Ventura Pontiac in 1985, then fixed a couple wheel bearings, a power steering pump, a rear window regulator and changed the oil/plugs/fuel lines - and until 1994 proceeded to use it for work, errands, to drive 120+mph on a number of occasions, as well as to take 5 or 6 1,000+ mile road trips, until I foolishly sold it. I shoulda waited until I got my money's worth out of it.
Driving 120 mph in a 20+ year old car with original suspension? You’re lucky you lived to tell the tale. I hit 110 in a 9 year old ‘70 Cutlass when the car inexplicably jumped one lane to the left. Very fortunate that the ‘69 Buick 225 w 430 engine that my buddy was driving in that lane was fast enough that it had just vacated that spot. (I had only a 350 w 2 bbl). Of course, if I had been in the left lane to start, I probably would not be commenting here. I too paid $300 for that car, and never raced it again.
@@Ponchoman07 Who are you telling? And I did it time and again; it's pure luck I didn't kill someone. I was 33, too - way old enough to know better. In my defense (if there is any) I'd fallen in love with a beautiful 18-year-old married mother of one,. She hadn't left her husband yet (she did eventually) and when I told my wife, she had taken my 4 sons and moved to San Diego, 350 miles away. The only way I could deal with the heart-crushing loneliness was to stay drunk. And engage in suicidal behavior.
There is no defense
Wanderlust ruins lives and relationships all the time. Pity the man who sees greener grass in his neighbor’s yard.
That blue paint is super on this car. The only thing left to do is put new springs all round and gas filled coil over shocks all round. And don't forget the Paxton Blower.
New subscriber - that was very informative.
Why was the underhood 421 emblem not correct? I thought that was stock?
IT IS CORRECT
That was my mistake, unabashedly incorrect!
Bonneville lighter than Catalina ...more expensive lighter build
It's got the wrong oil filter because it's a fram and not a wix because fram breaks apart and gets in your oil sump and the top end doesn't get enough oil.
Nice!!!
Back in 1977 I had a 1967 Catalina
Wish I still had it lots of memories
Is there any way you could tell me the color of this car or was it factory in 65 I hope you get my message because I want to paint my 66 GTO this color
My dad had 2+2 421 dark blue love that car all ways remember it also on the quarter windows it was car of the year for 1965 ours had gold motor trend car year stickers
Nice thorough honest review, thanks. This car is a cruiser
The numbers on the pad is 9773791c, and the letters GM6.
That car needs a lot of work but I love the color
You need to chill a bit. Your breathing in making me nervous!
10:25 The tires are badly placed, the white stripe must be visible.
Pontiac 1065 blue iam interested in this vedioe Don simmerman
get your left foot off the brake pedal......mr cool
Yeah...that always bothers me.
I friend of mine had one. Not all that fast but it guzzled gas like an alcoholic
A big old beauty!!!
Just start it already
Very well done appraisal. Great attention to detail. A couple of things. What about the numbers on the transmission, distributor, radiator snd alternator? These numbers should be checked and verified (numbers matching).
He said distributor was upgraded.
Did you give your firstborn child for that car?
$2000 cash, you deliver to Florida. Poor thing needs a retired ASE Master Tech to take care of her properly.
We had 421with three deuces. It was a great cruiser not to bad on gas
I grew up with, and passed my driver's license test with my dear father's 1966 Pontiac Parisienne 2 door 'coupe' with the 283 ci V8 and 2 speed auto transmission. It was in that beautiful turquoise colour and Dad removed the rear fender skirts from day one and stored them in the garage.
Such and awesome car and so many GREAT childhood memories with family trips in that beautiful Pontiac. LOVE it.
No car yet, to me, has a better front end aesthetic as that Parisienne...stacked headlamps, shark nosed...so cool.
I really enjoyed this. Jason seems very, very knowledgeable and he was easy to understand.
Great video.
Jeff
Did it come stock with a generator or alternator in 65..
I purchased a '65 2+2 convertible in 1988. Rusted/rotted frame but it sure looked great. And the top was in working order. I picked it up for the summer of '88. The doors and drop top frame were the only things holding the car from snapping in half. But, still $400 well spent. You had to go really slow over railroad tracks.
Ha ha ha...great story! I was working in a tiny bodyshop many years ago...owned by an owner that knew nothing about cars. He kept on taking in complete basket cases and expecting that we could "restore" them in a week. I had to work on a 1952 Ford Convertible. The only thing keeping the front clip tied to the back clip were the doors being latched to the quarter panels. The floor was completely missing there was no interior and you could see the ground, and 90% of the rocker panels were rotted and missing. The bottom 5 inches of either side of the cowl, the thing that the door hinges attach to, was rotted and missing. I found out that the car had sat in a swamp for about ten years. What a nightmare!
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Should'nt it have a Rochester Carb ?
Rochester Quadra jet only came out in 67. Correct 4 bbl for a 389 or 421 in 65 is a carter AFB
ARMY TANK !!!!
Really nice driver with signs of its age.
Keep shining even with paint flawd
Oh man does this bring back memories. My brother owned a 1963 Chevy Impala Super Sport. Then he got married! His wife couldn't drive stick and he had to sell the car. He bought a 1965 Catalina.
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It's to bad the guy who sprayed the car didn't have just a little bit more experience. He could have put an Excellent finish on it, without much more of a effort...
For sale? How much
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Nice color.
This is what a "stock car" is supposed to be.
Salesman bought these & drove the Interstates like King Richard.
that is a horrible paint job, im surprised no painter commented on that, back in the 50s-70s any average painter would be ashamed to put that out even for used car lots. especially since it looks like base coat clear coat, the easiest since the old lacquer jobs, easy as in laying it down, not labor involved.
Pearl white would have been the best color choice that looks better on a Tempest or Firebird I am wondering what is the ridiculously price
Wash the chrome with coke it will eat the rust off the chrome and make it shine then wax it it will seal the pours in the chrome I use it all the time people always ask how do I keep the chrome so clean with out rusting ,,,that's how
Take that carpet off the dash....it looks like some little greasy shit job😎
Well it's not my car bro! It's probably hiding some cracks! Auto appraiser Jason Phillips, Michigan
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What's up with the hole tore out rear frame.Been pulled back halfway straight. Otherwise nice car 🌞
Udpnt see these often wow
No car from that period came with clear coat. That Pontiac had lacquer paint.
he mentioned it was originally white, not the blurple finish it presently has.