Im excited for those two planets in VS2 and third water planet after that. And im curious if Keen can pull out orbiting, because during stream in loading screen in right corner is loading icon with 4 planets orbiting around sun. But that is years ahead.
thankfully, with the amount of direct community involvement and developer-player communication, i dont think we're gonna have to worry about a ksp2 situation. goes to show what great things you can do when you aren't slowed down by project managers, ceos, and marketers.
@Kroko6-- They were incredibly reluctant to say anything to the community though, and we had to beg for the few development articles we got. That's partly because of take2's restrictions (they couldn't even talk to the original devs), and partly because they overhyped the EA launch and got burned. Both are bad signs though. KSH have been far more open, especially on the curbing of expectations and showing of development builds.
KSP2 was a textbook example of good community management, and it still ended in flames. You just need to accept that when you buy into an early access game there's always a chance it could go belly up. If you're not willing to accept that then wait until the full release.
@@impguardwarhamer i wasnt necessarily criticizing the devs of ksp2, just using its unfortunate failure as something to avoid (namely through several public testing sessions and fluent dev-player communication, which seems to be where SE2 is heading) The KSP2 devteam was given barely any resources to pump out a game in 2 years. Junior engineers who had never played KSP, ~10mil budget, 2 year release window, starting from the ground up - all of this culminates into a clear roadblock (or 20.) SE2 doesn't seem to suffer from poor management. The devs take their time to work diligently, and push out content at a healthy rate. I myself am a junior game developer, and I ESPECIALLY know what its like to work under crunch hours. Not criticizing the devs of either game.
I tend to really tightly pack the utilities, it's going to be much easier to build super compact ships thanks to the new blocks only taking up the space of the model
I can't wait to crash into a water planet and really slowly watch as my ship runs out of power and water slowly fills the room and all I can do is watch... Sounds fun!
After that happens, you will then be able to start a salvage operation where you will have to seal up the ship, remove the water, and then refloat the ship to either pick it up using a barge or modify the ship to fly it off of the water! I’m excited to see people trying this!
Now when you are talking abut that... I wonder how will starting new survival game will be in SE2. I mean, if it is like in SE1, you could just spawn in a pod above ocean and just drown after long ass journey down.
When they said the cable was just decorative I swear I felt Zer0's "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" ripple through the subconscious link between all humans. But if it's any consolation I'm sure a modder will make a functional cable mod eventually.
PCU is gonna add up a lot quicker with smaller blocks and the way different sizes can be layered over each other now. Hopefully they have a way to counteract phasing and lag that will become more present
Ideally the game would have a way to select a group of blocks and combine them to be treated as one entity, eliminating extra surfaces and damage calculation.
@@Zer0sLegion No phasing? Damn, my building gonna go crazy. Would you say I could go 1 mill pcu with a relatively low block count while having good performance and no phasing? I’m running a RTX 3070 TI. Also I would like to build with a lot of subgrids, so how will that work out, like significantly better than SE1?
I just really hope that for Space Engineers 2 they will actually try and make it into a proper game with stuff to do and gameplay mechanics. Unlike how Space engineers 1 always felt to me like a really cool physics engine where you can make space ships
It's the most obvious, but the 25mm grid system. Like the freedom we will have with this!!! I'm so excited. P.S. the cable is dead, long live the cable.
I never pre-order games. Literally never. I always wait to see if the game is actually good before spending any money on it. I pre-ordered SE2 the moment I found out I could.
Did no one notice how close those new drills are to each other, at 17:27 - the "teeth" are almost touching... perhaps wheels will also have similar anti-clang elements...
having different liquids besides water sounds fun, Lava will become the ultimate bomb payload or modded liquids like a liquid virus that just encapsules you ship and slowly eats it. Very funny stuff.
@@Grottogoob Sorry to break it to you, I'm not a drinker. I had a pint for my 18th, so I may have one for my 21st, but I haven't touched alcohol since. (And my bank account is happier because of this)
@@AOD_AnkGrooger Good for you man, I don’t drink very often but I still enjoy a beer or two every other Friday. Either way, hope you have a good birthday!
16:06 I’m so glad that they’re adding backpack building, one of my biggest complaints when I play survival was the constant back and forth between the survival kit and whatever I was building
So, all those times Xocliw had to stop himself from saying something about what was in the pipeline, he really meant it! Regardless, I'm stoked to see things next month!
I hope the story campaign doesn’t end at the end. What I mean by that is that you have the story first, kind of like the story scenarios we have in SE1, and once you are done with that, you can just basically play normal survival, maybe even use your connections to the faction you have been working together with depending on how the story mode works. But then again, I am just happy there’s going to be more lore!
Couldn’t be more excited. After hitting the Grid limit separate from block limits so many times all I needed was creative to get me by, and it’s here! See yall 1/27 💪
Although there are things I disagree with you (Jump Drive) without a doubt this is the best channel for SE. Thank you! I'm so sorry about the cable. I was excited too. I'm a bit disappointed with the survivor kit on the back. Hopefully the survivor aspect won't be too easy but already the game has huge potential. And yes, I am one of those five Linux users :D
@@fastmadcow A few things to consider: It is one of the main reasons to build a base at all. With a multi-functional backpack, there is not as much emphasis on the base. Like in No Mans sky. Yeah you can build u great base, but why whould you? The game gets pretty boring after a while. The game in general should have its difficulties to motivate players to overcome them. If everything is easy, it won't even be a challenge. If you want a faster start and you don't enjoy mining, you can start with an already built base or in some already built vehicle. You can also set the speed of welding, mining and the size of the inventory, which greatly helps in the beginning. And last but not least, it's a survival game. Not everyone wants to speed up the beginning. Someone can enjoy the beginning of the game. What is the point of rushing the game where there is no proper end game?
@@metalWarriorCZ you have a few mixed ideas, and some assumptions about how I'm playing that I'm not sure I resonate with. I don't think you are doing it on purpose. I will just say I disagree. I believe that adding this backpack will be huge for this game and does not make a base obsolete The comment section is not a place for debate, nor my many many thoughts on this. I have ALOT to say about this as my beliefs run deep on sandbox and survival games in general. Besides unless your a dev trying to change my mind, which I'm assuming your not. Then it's kind of a waste of my time to lay my thoughts out here. I already considered writing a very lengthy comment and decided it didn't make sense. Sooo this is my very very brief take on both your comment and my general game experience. -I have played SE for over 500 hours. I have played the game since alpha. Playing the game off and on over the years. -It seems like you're projecting your own feelings into a view of "everyone" and "someone". Taking your own view and replacing it with statements like "Not everyone wants to speed up the beginning". In general I feel like your comment is kind of a catch all, it feels like your trying to convey the will of the people. I understand that your original comment was not this way so I'm not sure why you decided to write this reply this way. -I've kept up to date on the game through several youtube channels. -I don't enjoy fast starts I think it's boring and there is no satisfaction in not being able to build a base my self. I hate being handed things in video games for free. But I hate when a game waste my time as well. -This is not a survival game... it's a sandbox game acting as physics simulator. I agree that there are survival aspects to the game, but it's not a survival game. -people who play on anything but 4x are wild, I refuse to do it. I believe these people are crazy and I will look at you funny if you do it unless it's for youtube content. -you're correct there is no "end game", the "end game" is what you decide. I've always slightly disliked that about SE, but it has gotten better over the years.
@@fastmadcow Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it. But you made a lot of personal points that I would like to address. First of all, I don't push anyone into anything. I am discussing here and giving my personal opinion as a gamer and fan of this great game. That's it. I made several arguments as to why I PERSONALLY am disappointed with the backpack change. Can I have my opinion, or...? You wrote a lot about yourself and what you think about me, but no valid argument for what I wrote about the game mechanics. Sorry but I don't consider the argument that the game is too slow at the beginning to be very valid considering that it can be personalized a lot and you are just expressing your personal impression (funny thing is that you criticize me for the same thing). Anyway, I love this game. I have already spent over 1300 hours in the game and many more hours outside the game on the topic of setting up servers, mods, etc. I'm looking forward to SE2 but I just don't want it to be too easy. because then it will end up like NMS, where it gets boring after a certain time of gameplay. If you just want to build, use the creative mod. But if we want to play a game, then the game should contain some challenges. That could be the main point and you could possibly comment on that.
i wouldnt expect much more than now. most mods wont work on consoles anyways as consoles are way more locked down so likely not much more than blueprints
The merged grid system, I really hated having to use a mod to attach small to large grid builds, also gyroscopes and gravity generators that have more than one side to attach to.
24:00 hey! Space Engineers works flawlessly on Linux using Proton (except the broken text copy and paste)! I play it mostly there actually and performance is great! I get 100+ fps with everything on low and 2k resolution on my old gtx 1060! (vanilla Debian 12 with Nvidia gpu) It’s just that you cannot use any mod or it crashes, but the vanilla experience is still really good with all the new content added recently! If they are using later tecnologies it’s very likely that they will have a relatively easy time supporting linux natively! I am pretty sure that they will especially because of the whole needin a windows server / vm to host a dedicated server makes it more costly and less efficent thing.
@@Zer0sLegion That would be so fricking good to have, especially to host the dedicated servers, tho I doubt they will do it for Space Engineers (1) :( it would be a crime to not do it for Space Engineers 2 tho! :D
@@progamersking_7434 Do you mind sharing what distro you are using, proton version, type of steam installation, gpu, launch options and any other detail that could be relevant? I would love to get it to work with mods as well!
I hope they do something with the cable like making act as a grappling hook so the player can have an alternative to using a jetpack, maybe the cable could also be used for dragging things.
I bought SE1 when there was just the asteroid platform with the red ship and the speed limit was like 20 m/s. I didn't get disappointed in fact the game became much more than I imagined at the start. SE2 is already preordered.
00:07 not just you, we shall make a chanell on discord server just to let people press F to pay respects to unlimited potentiol cable would bring if it was functional
The Alpha release an promise of "Vertical Slices" really reminds me of what happened to KSP2 - Hyped it up, released the Alpha in a trash state so only the highest of spec PCs could run it, promised that "core functionality" would be released in stages, (multtiplayer, colonies, etc), changed core things that worked well in the first game (more bendy rockets, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?), then ran out of money. I seriously hope SE2 works out well because it has so much potential, but KSP2 shattered my trust in early access promises from devs. Please, Please, get it right guys and gals
KSP2 was doomed from the start, it was bought by another company who immediately announced they were making a sequel with a different dev team and then it turned out the KSP2 devs weren't allowed to talk to the old dev team at all. Then they proceeded to not say anything to players for months and months and then the game go cancelled. Keen have done the opposite of that, they have been working on this game for almost 3 years, they are the same dev team as the first, they have told us exactly what they are doing for the next 3 years of early access and been more transparent than they ever had been on anything to do with the game.
The interface here simply looks amazing! The 20 MS rule is great especially if they allow asymmetric thrust. I really hope they do. Then we can have true navigation thrusters. That would make flying so much more customizable!
Aren't brown dwarfs basically stars that didn't quite make it? -Commander Shepard Dame i would love a gas giant. I like to build a base in the clouds of Luma, one of the modded planets. Also: Ten thousand years will give you such a crick in the neck. Do you see any boarders from up here? What have boarders given us?
Man, I am sorry to say that this feels just like a cashgrab. They have all information from players from SE1 on how SE2 should look like. Now they are just selling broken incomplete sandbox. :( I bough every DLC they made not because I want to play it, but I wanted to support them. Even though they are Czech studio and translation to Czech language had to be done by fans. Now I know how to feel about them. Game is just secondary priority for them.
did you even watch the video? what are you talking about lmao... Of course its incomplete, its the first publishable version of the game at its barebones, the video literally talks about the game's roadmap and their progress. The video also said 70 people are working on SE2, if you want a complete survival sandbox in a new engine, go speak to a triple A dev team of 1000.
It's early access, they want to show it to us and get our feedback on it. Every game they've worked on has been in early access for the same reason. And they're still updating SE1 if you want a finished experience, you're not losing anything.
how is this a cash grab? its just a EA game what are you on about. This was literally what EA is for and its like 30 bucks which is hardly expensive as far as this type of game goes. And you dont have to buy it until it has the features you want
guys, I get your point, you can buy early version if you want. But they made solid money in SE1 and they are not any newbie in business. I would expect respectable move to release a full game, and not dragging EA for years.
As someone who has been with them from the earliest of the days, I am excited, I hope SE2 gets the decent speed SE deserved but we were so few to support the even lesser developers on the game. If anything they already have half the ideas set by the community in terms of what people want in survival by mods, they just need to expand it further and make it more functional, along with making it moddable in terms of changes and improvements, along with adding raw mechanics. While I dont expect a Star Citizen quality or time, I expect good things from them and us the community. Keen deserves all the support.
Keen is pretty damn big actually. Not AAA studio big, but a lot bigger than an indie company. Nothing at all like it was when SE1 first came out. Space engineers is just a small part of what they do too, most of their staff works on goodai as far as Im aware. Not that they employ the same people to work on those jobs, just their game development staff isnt the largest part of keen.
This year I have to work on Christmas and am an call the entire night but I get a free day off next year as compensation. guess when I'll be taking that day!
The NPC Tech they have and the volumetric fluid simulation have me so incredibly hyped. I hope we get proper displacement physics, so we can make submarines with flood tanks??
no clang and being able to build better in survival is my dream to go. I hope they add most of DLC blocks in the game too they added so much flavour and diversity. Overall I cant wait this sounds like it will be a fun game.
I would like an electromagnet kinda like the connector but all it does is pull whatever the magnet in on toward another magnet or metal ship You could even just make it for mining ships to attract and pull into an iron ore vein and it would be a very used item Have it so you can set the magnetic pull very low or very high and even in reverse If you can do ai or a controller, you can make it so whatever object you're going to will have a total speed less than 20 and when it gets to zero so stuck on the object it goes 100% power and you can't get off This would be great for floating space mines that fly to ships and stick on them and wait until they get far away or do high speed or anything
I missed 1st one, didn't had pc could play it and money to buy it even on sale alstho my passion to space games. Now I'm on steam sale rampage and definitely gonna get this one.
a lore reason clang is not in SE2, The colony has travelled 10,000 light-years away and is now, out side of clang's territory / range of influence and as such can not effect the almagest system (or if clang returns their on the edge of clang's territory, or the territory expanded )
So when we talk about the vertical slices as coming out every few months (planned at least), is that between slices like 1 -> 2 (survival, etc), or slices 1.1 -> 1.2 -> 1.3, etc?
@@taxibutler1858 I believe that's between 1 and 2, not between the 1.1 etc. They're working on 2 at the moment and I believe most of 1.1 to 1.5 is done but it needs testing.
what baffles me about frostbite as a scenario, is how much people try to turn Space engineers in to a FPS(which it's not). ...the scenario doesn't limit your ability to build...so build. It's way easier.
As somebody who's dabbled a very slight amount in making multiplayer games, I honestly agree. It's much much harder to add multiplayer to a game that's already had significant dev time
@@Zer0sLegionLet me start by saying I'm not denying that this is the case, but I haven't been able to find anything confirming that it's true and not speculation.
Would they allow us to go above 100mph~ ?. That is the only thing that really bothered me in the original game when doing planetary takeoff it takes so long to reach 0 gravity
4:25 I've had Space engineers 1 sitting in my library for ages, its a game I've always wanted to play but the learning curve was far too steep and I just constantly found myself watching tutorials and the like rather than playing the game. I'm going to buy space engineers 2 so I can get in on the ground floor.
the problem with this new approach is its going to lead to the same thing as before, people will keep requesting things in each slice and it will go on the same way as SE1
Nah, they're sticking to their core experience first before adding any other features. Our feedback isn't for features, it's for tweets and improvements.
Additionally, Se1 already functions as a solid base for them to work towards. It provides things they know work, and know we want, while letting them improve them as they go. They arent going to pivot to adding some crazy user suggested feature before adding the foundational blocks of the game. We still have tones of stuff on the horison. Turrets, o2/h2, conveyors, wheels, atmosphere engines, and functional blocks like timers, and more.
I'm looking forward to playing the game. Some things kinda bother me though: 1) not having mods through Steam's workshop feels odd, but if Keen themselves are handling it, that could be better... I'm still on the fence about that. 2) Will the functional blocks from the various updates like the turret/AI controllers, action relay, and AI behavioral blocks make it into the game at all? I imagine it'd be later after the VS that adds the programmable block if it does happen 3) Will the DLC skins / armor textures from SE1 be sold again or will Keen leave those behind and add brand new stuff?
1. Keen is confident that their own workshop will be better, let them cook. 2. I assume every functional block will make it over, everything since warfare 2 has been made whilst this game was being worked on so they would have been able to design it with the new game in mind. 3. I doubt they will sell they again, they said they want to make sure everything in SE2 is new.
If it is okay to ask, I just got to the part of you saying you are limited in time for the video resulting in a lower quality of editing? I understand but am a little confused on what is setting that time limit as you can upload whenever you feel like it.
@@Zer0sLegion I guess thanks, just was curious and it isn't really my business if that is the right phrase, so I won't ask more about it. Thanks for responding though.
What SE2 feature are you most excited for? Let me know!
Also, RIP cable 🪦
Setting up trade hubs for NPC's to buy and sell to
Def water or better multiplayer
Story
Im excited for those two planets in VS2 and third water planet after that.
And im curious if Keen can pull out orbiting, because during stream in loading screen in right corner is loading icon with 4 planets orbiting around sun.
But that is years ahead.
Not really a feature, but I am very excited for potential linux support
The real cable was the bond of friendship we made along the way.
There's no way they don't make it functional now its a huge meme though.
I'll trade the friendship we made along the way for a functional cable
@@Zer0sLegion😢
@@Zer0sLegion sellout! 😂
I mean we got to make new friends some of them stayed 10,000 light years away
Imagine they make the ending of the story the MC solveing X problem and he has to plug in the cable as part of it. Just as a nod
thankfully, with the amount of direct community involvement and developer-player communication, i dont think we're gonna have to worry about a ksp2 situation. goes to show what great things you can do when you aren't slowed down by project managers, ceos, and marketers.
Yeah, them being completely transparent on this is very good.
well the devs of ksp2 where definetly really community focused. even got to talk to nate irl and its really sad it ended the way it did
@Kroko6-- They were incredibly reluctant to say anything to the community though, and we had to beg for the few development articles we got. That's partly because of take2's restrictions (they couldn't even talk to the original devs), and partly because they overhyped the EA launch and got burned. Both are bad signs though.
KSH have been far more open, especially on the curbing of expectations and showing of development builds.
KSP2 was a textbook example of good community management, and it still ended in flames.
You just need to accept that when you buy into an early access game there's always a chance it could go belly up. If you're not willing to accept that then wait until the full release.
@@impguardwarhamer i wasnt necessarily criticizing the devs of ksp2, just using its unfortunate failure as something to avoid (namely through several public testing sessions and fluent dev-player communication, which seems to be where SE2 is heading)
The KSP2 devteam was given barely any resources to pump out a game in 2 years. Junior engineers who had never played KSP, ~10mil budget, 2 year release window, starting from the ground up - all of this culminates into a clear roadblock (or 20.) SE2 doesn't seem to suffer from poor management. The devs take their time to work diligently, and push out content at a healthy rate.
I myself am a junior game developer, and I ESPECIALLY know what its like to work under crunch hours. Not criticizing the devs of either game.
The real cable was the friends we linked together along the way..
True but I would trade those friends for a cable🥹
Kojima approves
Savage 😂@Zer0sLegion
The real cable was the friends we forcibly tethered ourselves to with said cable.
I tend to really tightly pack the utilities, it's going to be much easier to build super compact ships thanks to the new blocks only taking up the space of the model
I can't wait to crash into a water planet and really slowly watch as my ship runs out of power and water slowly fills the room and all I can do is watch...
Sounds fun!
I can't wait for that kind of stuff!
After that happens, you will then be able to start a salvage operation where you will have to seal up the ship, remove the water, and then refloat the ship to either pick it up using a barge or modify the ship to fly it off of the water!
I’m excited to see people trying this!
Now when you are talking abut that... I wonder how will starting new survival game will be in SE2. I mean, if it is like in SE1, you could just spawn in a pod above ocean and just drown after long ass journey down.
Great survival campaign concept right there
@@Zarenthanah man. Boyancy on the pod now we're playing subnautica
We'll get Medieval Engineers 2 one day.... I know it....
Yes. That dream hasn’t died yet.
I pray
Yo, I can't wait!
I am more thinking about getting a new game named Ancient Engineer before Medieval Engineer 2 🤔
It will most likely be a mod
When they said the cable was just decorative I swear I felt Zer0's "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" ripple through the subconscious link between all humans. But if it's any consolation I'm sure a modder will make a functional cable mod eventually.
PCU is gonna add up a lot quicker with smaller blocks and the way different sizes can be layered over each other now. Hopefully they have a way to counteract phasing and lag that will become more present
Ideally the game would have a way to select a group of blocks and combine them to be treated as one entity, eliminating extra surfaces and damage calculation.
New engine, new physics engine, no phasing, better performance
@@Zer0sLegion No phasing? Damn, my building gonna go crazy. Would you say I could go 1 mill pcu with a relatively low block count while having good performance and no phasing? I’m running a RTX 3070 TI. Also I would like to build with a lot of subgrids, so how will that work out, like significantly better than SE1?
This is good game development imo
ive never seen anyone else do it this well
but for real tho cable fever was real
the moment he said that everyone in the chat went nooooooooo
guess we atleast know what the first mod will be
I'll be learning to mod to create it! 🫡
There is going to be about 10 different mods just for that.
I just really hope that for Space Engineers 2 they will actually try and make it into a proper game with stuff to do and gameplay mechanics.
Unlike how Space engineers 1 always felt to me like a really cool physics engine where you can make space ships
That is one of the aims of the new game, see the survival section.
It's the most obvious, but the 25mm grid system. Like the freedom we will have with this!!! I'm so excited. P.S. the cable is dead, long live the cable.
I never pre-order games. Literally never. I always wait to see if the game is actually good before spending any money on it.
I pre-ordered SE2 the moment I found out I could.
They're being very transparent about what they're adding for that reason, they want people to know what they're getting.
I get you. SE was good to me so I have confidence in 2
Did no one notice how close those new drills are to each other, at 17:27 - the "teeth" are almost touching... perhaps wheels will also have similar anti-clang elements...
Welp, I just pre-ordered the game.
I'm more than excited to begin a fresh space adventure next year, 2025!
Yeah, it's gonna be great!
having different liquids besides water sounds fun,
Lava will become the ultimate bomb payload
or modded liquids like a liquid virus that just encapsules you ship and slowly eats it.
Very funny stuff.
NOT THE CABLE!!! Also the alpha comes out on my birthday im so excited!! (January 27th)
comes out a day before my birthday, and it's my 21st.
so happy
Happy birthday on the 27 :)
@@AOD_AnkGrooger Enjoy your 21st mate, was mine this year too! Drink a beer for me! ;)
@@Grottogoob Sorry to break it to you, I'm not a drinker. I had a pint for my 18th, so I may have one for my 21st, but I haven't touched alcohol since.
(And my bank account is happier because of this)
@@AOD_AnkGrooger Good for you man, I don’t drink very often but I still enjoy a beer or two every other Friday. Either way, hope you have a good birthday!
16:06 I’m so glad that they’re adding backpack building, one of my biggest complaints when I play survival was the constant back and forth between the survival kit and whatever I was building
So, all those times Xocliw had to stop himself from saying something about what was in the pipeline, he really meant it! Regardless, I'm stoked to see things next month!
It also looks like a lot of blocks have bump map textures, adds to the level of detail without adding an even smaller smaller block size
I hope the story campaign doesn’t end at the end. What I mean by that is that you have the story first, kind of like the story scenarios we have in SE1, and once you are done with that, you can just basically play normal survival, maybe even use your connections to the faction you have been working together with depending on how the story mode works. But then again, I am just happy there’s going to be more lore!
I hope it will exist in a sandbox world and you'll have to do missions within it for the same reasons you say.
Couldn’t be more excited. After hitting the Grid limit separate from block limits so many times all I needed was creative to get me by, and it’s here! See yall 1/27 💪
The last time I was this early we thought the cable might be for something.
Although there are things I disagree with you (Jump Drive) without a doubt this is the best channel for SE. Thank you!
I'm so sorry about the cable. I was excited too.
I'm a bit disappointed with the survivor kit on the back. Hopefully the survivor aspect won't be too easy but already the game has huge potential.
And yes, I am one of those five Linux users :D
It sounds like they want to shift the difficulty from the beginning of the game to later in the game.
nah it's needed, the early game is way way way to slow. It shouldn't take me multiple hours to get my first vehicle to final speed up game play.
@@fastmadcow A few things to consider: It is one of the main reasons to build a base at all. With a multi-functional backpack, there is not as much emphasis on the base.
Like in No Mans sky. Yeah you can build u great base, but why whould you? The game gets pretty boring after a while.
The game in general should have its difficulties to motivate players to overcome them. If everything is easy, it won't even be a challenge.
If you want a faster start and you don't enjoy mining, you can start with an already built base or in some already built vehicle. You can also set the speed of welding, mining and the size of the inventory, which greatly helps in the beginning.
And last but not least, it's a survival game. Not everyone wants to speed up the beginning. Someone can enjoy the beginning of the game.
What is the point of rushing the game where there is no proper end game?
@@metalWarriorCZ you have a few mixed ideas, and some assumptions about how I'm playing that I'm not sure I resonate with. I don't think you are doing it on purpose.
I will just say I disagree. I believe that adding this backpack will be huge for this game and does not make a base obsolete The comment section is not a place for debate, nor my many many thoughts on this. I have ALOT to say about this as my beliefs run deep on sandbox and survival games in general. Besides unless your a dev trying to change my mind, which I'm assuming your not. Then it's kind of a waste of my time to lay my thoughts out here. I already considered writing a very lengthy comment and decided it didn't make sense.
Sooo this is my very very brief take on both your comment and my general game experience.
-I have played SE for over 500 hours. I have played the game since alpha. Playing the game off and on over the years.
-It seems like you're projecting your own feelings into a view of "everyone" and "someone". Taking your own view and replacing it with statements like "Not everyone wants to speed up the beginning". In general I feel like your comment is kind of a catch all, it feels like your trying to convey the will of the people. I understand that your original comment was not this way so I'm not sure why you decided to write this reply this way.
-I've kept up to date on the game through several youtube channels.
-I don't enjoy fast starts I think it's boring and there is no satisfaction in not being able to build a base my self. I hate being handed things in video games for free. But I hate when a game waste my time as well.
-This is not a survival game... it's a sandbox game acting as physics simulator. I agree that there are survival aspects to the game, but it's not a survival game.
-people who play on anything but 4x are wild, I refuse to do it. I believe these people are crazy and I will look at you funny if you do it unless it's for youtube content.
-you're correct there is no "end game", the "end game" is what you decide. I've always slightly disliked that about SE, but it has gotten better over the years.
@@fastmadcow Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it. But you made a lot of personal points that I would like to address. First of all, I don't push anyone into anything. I am discussing here and giving my personal opinion as a gamer and fan of this great game. That's it.
I made several arguments as to why I PERSONALLY am disappointed with the backpack change. Can I have my opinion, or...?
You wrote a lot about yourself and what you think about me, but no valid argument for what I wrote about the game mechanics. Sorry but I don't consider the argument that the game is too slow at the beginning to be very valid considering that it can be personalized a lot and you are just expressing your personal impression (funny thing is that you criticize me for the same thing).
Anyway, I love this game. I have already spent over 1300 hours in the game and many more hours outside the game on the topic of setting up servers, mods, etc. I'm looking forward to SE2 but I just don't want it to be too easy. because then it will end up like NMS, where it gets boring after a certain time of gameplay. If you just want to build, use the creative mod. But if we want to play a game, then the game should contain some challenges. That could be the main point and you could possibly comment on that.
what i like the most is that the paint gun shows what colors is in use
10:29 I’m a Xbox player so this I good because we barely get any good mods except the Outlands mods.
i wouldnt expect much more than now. most mods wont work on consoles anyways as consoles are way more locked down so likely not much more than blueprints
The merged grid system, I really hated having to use a mod to attach small to large grid builds, also gyroscopes and gravity generators that have more than one side to attach to.
24:00 hey! Space Engineers works flawlessly on Linux using Proton (except the broken text copy and paste)! I play it mostly there actually and performance is great! I get 100+ fps with everything on low and 2k resolution on my old gtx 1060! (vanilla Debian 12 with Nvidia gpu) It’s just that you cannot use any mod or it crashes, but the vanilla experience is still really good with all the new content added recently! If they are using later tecnologies it’s very likely that they will have a relatively easy time supporting linux natively! I am pretty sure that they will especially because of the whole needin a windows server / vm to host a dedicated server makes it more costly and less efficent thing.
I'm on linux too and I can use any mod without problems
They were discussing native support for the game and servers
Linux modding has worked fine for me as well, so far
@@Zer0sLegion That would be so fricking good to have, especially to host the dedicated servers, tho I doubt they will do it for Space Engineers (1) :( it would be a crime to not do it for Space Engineers 2 tho! :D
@@progamersking_7434 Do you mind sharing what distro you are using, proton version, type of steam installation, gpu, launch options and any other detail that could be relevant? I would love to get it to work with mods as well!
The ability to use different sizes on the same grid will definitely make it so you really can make custom builds that can be unique
0:20 , you know what else is massive
The loooooooow taper fade
I hope they do something with the cable like making act as a grappling hook so the player can have an alternative to using a jetpack, maybe the cable could also be used for dragging things.
The first mod is already determined
CABLE!!!!
I bought SE1 when there was just the asteroid platform with the red ship and the speed limit was like 20 m/s. I didn't get disappointed in fact the game became much more than I imagined at the start. SE2 is already preordered.
00:07 not just you, we shall make a chanell on discord server just to let people press F to pay respects to unlimited potentiol cable would bring if it was functional
The Alpha release an promise of "Vertical Slices" really reminds me of what happened to KSP2 - Hyped it up, released the Alpha in a trash state so only the highest of spec PCs could run it, promised that "core functionality" would be released in stages, (multtiplayer, colonies, etc), changed core things that worked well in the first game (more bendy rockets, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?), then ran out of money.
I seriously hope SE2 works out well because it has so much potential, but KSP2 shattered my trust in early access promises from devs.
Please, Please, get it right guys and gals
KSP2 was doomed from the start, it was bought by another company who immediately announced they were making a sequel with a different dev team and then it turned out the KSP2 devs weren't allowed to talk to the old dev team at all. Then they proceeded to not say anything to players for months and months and then the game go cancelled.
Keen have done the opposite of that, they have been working on this game for almost 3 years, they are the same dev team as the first, they have told us exactly what they are doing for the next 3 years of early access and been more transparent than they ever had been on anything to do with the game.
@Zer0sLegion Yea mate, you make a very good point. 👍
i pre ordered the game the second i watched this, with the DLC... i have no regrets! 👹
You know I always wait for your summary videos. There's no way I waste hours of my life watching Keen's livestreams. So thank you for your work.
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i mean in theory u could fly into a gas giant alteast once xD
The interface here simply looks amazing! The 20 MS rule is great especially if they allow asymmetric thrust. I really hope they do. Then we can have true navigation thrusters. That would make flying so much more customizable!
Klang is dead
Worship the cable
All pray to the mighty cable
Klang will find a way, just the slightest opening, a mod maybe, and Klang will return.
If water becomes a thing, then I'm going to be extremely hyped. It'll be like stormworks, but you can also go to space.
RIP clang. ALL HAIL THE CABLE!
Long term what id like to see in SE2 is kinda some X4 style stuff NPC wise
❌ clang
✅ Cable
Aren't brown dwarfs basically stars that didn't quite make it?
-Commander Shepard
Dame i would love a gas giant. I like to build a base in the clouds of Luma, one of the modded planets.
Also: Ten thousand years will give you such a crick in the neck.
Do you see any boarders from up here? What have boarders given us?
CABLE GANG
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The amount of detailing on ships, is gonna be nuts.
Man, I am sorry to say that this feels just like a cashgrab. They have all information from players from SE1 on how SE2 should look like. Now they are just selling broken incomplete sandbox. :( I bough every DLC they made not because I want to play it, but I wanted to support them. Even though they are Czech studio and translation to Czech language had to be done by fans. Now I know how to feel about them. Game is just secondary priority for them.
did you even watch the video? what are you talking about lmao... Of course its incomplete, its the first publishable version of the game at its barebones, the video literally talks about the game's roadmap and their progress. The video also said 70 people are working on SE2, if you want a complete survival sandbox in a new engine, go speak to a triple A dev team of 1000.
It's early access, they want to show it to us and get our feedback on it. Every game they've worked on has been in early access for the same reason. And they're still updating SE1 if you want a finished experience, you're not losing anything.
how is this a cash grab? its just a EA game what are you on about. This was literally what EA is for and its like 30 bucks which is hardly expensive as far as this type of game goes. And you dont have to buy it until it has the features you want
Dawg… what r u on about?
guys, I get your point, you can buy early version if you want. But they made solid money in SE1 and they are not any newbie in business. I would expect respectable move to release a full game, and not dragging EA for years.
Fantastic job covering everything! I have already got the pre-release pioneer edition.
With eventual scripting support you could really make anything in se2
By then you could make your own cable even a grapple gun
That intro got a subscription. Granted I am drunk at the burrito joint, so you could say my state of mind is suggestive.
😅 I'll take what I can get
As someone who has been with them from the earliest of the days, I am excited, I hope SE2 gets the decent speed SE deserved but we were so few to support the even lesser developers on the game.
If anything they already have half the ideas set by the community in terms of what people want in survival by mods, they just need to expand it further and make it more functional, along with making it moddable in terms of changes and improvements, along with adding raw mechanics.
While I dont expect a Star Citizen quality or time, I expect good things from them and us the community. Keen deserves all the support.
I cant wait to use 25cm blocks to build tiny drones and quads that will fly around my base and run short scouting missions
Hoping for more technical freedom in this version. I want specialized refineries, laser tools, powered armor.. etc.
It sounds like so different types of refineries are on the cards
the possibilities are actually endless now
That backpack building reminds me of a feature in star-made, good touch
snowrunner uses mod io as well. you can use both the website and the ingame menu version of the mods, i think it'll be the same for se2
Space Engineers and Keen Software having 100+ people working on it is really the surprising part to me. I thought Keen was a much smaller shop
Yeah, I was always curious how many people worked there but it's reassuring seeing the numbers.
They mentioned during an earlier stream that the workforce has more than doubled over the last few years.
Keen is pretty damn big actually. Not AAA studio big, but a lot bigger than an indie company. Nothing at all like it was when SE1 first came out. Space engineers is just a small part of what they do too, most of their staff works on goodai as far as Im aware. Not that they employ the same people to work on those jobs, just their game development staff isnt the largest part of keen.
Pre ordered already!!!!!! Can't wait!!!.
Maximum Effort! Great job, Wade!
This year I have to work on Christmas and am an call the entire night but I get a free day off next year as compensation. guess when I'll be taking that day!
I will buy this game even only to play it years from now. I love developers who actually care about the game and community.
The NPC Tech they have and the volumetric fluid simulation have me so incredibly hyped. I hope we get proper displacement physics, so we can make submarines with flood tanks??
You should be able to, yes.
no clang and being able to build better in survival is my dream to go. I hope they add most of DLC blocks in the game too they added so much flavour and diversity. Overall I cant wait this sounds like it will be a fun game.
Never been so excited for a game. And really love the subgriding and to come npc's
I would like an electromagnet kinda like the connector but all it does is pull whatever the magnet in on toward another magnet or metal ship
You could even just make it for mining ships to attract and pull into an iron ore vein and it would be a very used item
Have it so you can set the magnetic pull very low or very high and even in reverse
If you can do ai or a controller, you can make it so whatever object you're going to will have a total speed less than 20 and when it gets to zero so stuck on the object it goes 100% power and you can't get off
This would be great for floating space mines that fly to ships and stick on them and wait until they get far away or do high speed or anything
SE1 currently works great on Linux with proton, but native support is always welcome.
Ohhhhhhhhh I'm been waiting for this 🔥🔥
Thanks Zer0, reely great video, appreciated much, helps a lot!
Since ME came out all i have ever wanted was SE with that build ststem so yeah i will be gettig this!
I have only been exited for a survival game since space engineers 1 now I want 2
The SE 1 crashes and explosions were already pretty nice, BUT LOOK AT SE2 I can't wait to see what stuff I can make and blow up!
I missed 1st one, didn't had pc could play it and money to buy it even on sale alstho my passion to space games. Now I'm on steam sale rampage and definitely gonna get this one.
Cant wait for survival multiplayer to finaly come out!
a lore reason clang is not in SE2,
The colony has travelled 10,000 light-years away and is now, out side of clang's territory / range of influence
and as such can not effect the almagest system (or if clang returns their on the edge of clang's territory, or the territory expanded )
Or, alternatively, clang has now returned in the cable
Love the cable reaction bit.
I'm glad SE2 isn't > 60€ like most big games nowadays, I think that's what is going to make me buy the game
So when we talk about the vertical slices as coming out every few months (planned at least), is that between slices like 1 -> 2 (survival, etc), or slices 1.1 -> 1.2 -> 1.3, etc?
@@taxibutler1858 I believe that's between 1 and 2, not between the 1.1 etc.
They're working on 2 at the moment and I believe most of 1.1 to 1.5 is done but it needs testing.
great vid, I'm just overly hyped about survival adding more complexity and npc's so I can establish my empire and mega factories :)
I hope they introduce a syetem like from the depths for building wepons and componets
I've always loved the idea of modular weapons like that.
what baffles me about frostbite as a scenario, is how much people try to turn Space engineers in to a FPS(which it's not). ...the scenario doesn't limit your ability to build...so build. It's way easier.
It is way easier to build, just for me, it felt like I wasn't playing it how it was intended.
Imagine the water planet as Miller's planet from Interstellar. That would be terrifying
One of the best parts of that film
Water based electrical? Like a dam? Would be neat
I think changing the waterupdate with the multiplayerupdate are a good thing, i want to play this game with my friends :)
We'll see, I think water is very locked in as third.
As somebody who's dabbled a very slight amount in making multiplayer games, I honestly agree. It's much much harder to add multiplayer to a game that's already had significant dev time
@@lunazara6775 Multiplayer is already in the game, it's just disabled until they're happy with it. Same for survival.
@@Zer0sLegionLet me start by saying I'm not denying that this is the case, but I haven't been able to find anything confirming that it's true and not speculation.
@@lunazara6775 They tweeted about it the other day
Wooooo space engineers are making it my birthday gifts sense 27th of January is my birthday xD
Would they allow us to go above 100mph~ ?.
That is the only thing that really bothered me in the original game when doing planetary takeoff it takes so long to reach 0 gravity
Yes, I talk about that in the video.
What if on planets we could take off our jetpacks and use the cable to boulder up mountains lol. Or swing?
Ther is lack of mention for VR-Support😶🌫️
They did speak about it but they've said it's not going to be part of the core experience but maybe later on.
@Zer0sLegion ah, i did Not Catch that. Thanks a lot for the Info.
4:25 I've had Space engineers 1 sitting in my library for ages, its a game I've always wanted to play but the learning curve was far too steep and I just constantly found myself watching tutorials and the like rather than playing the game.
I'm going to buy space engineers 2 so I can get in on the ground floor.
I am definitely going to be buying se2 before it's full release, but probably only at or after Slice 2
I am sure the later Vertical Slices will make good use of the Cable! 😇🤪😁
The cable lore hype is real.
Oh and the rest seems nice as well
I watched the whole stream waiting for them to mention the cable, and when they finally did my heart sank for you bro.
🥹It's fine
the problem with this new approach is its going to lead to the same thing as before, people will keep requesting things in each slice and it will go on the same way as SE1
Nah, they're sticking to their core experience first before adding any other features. Our feedback isn't for features, it's for tweets and improvements.
Additionally, Se1 already functions as a solid base for them to work towards.
It provides things they know work, and know we want, while letting them improve them as they go.
They arent going to pivot to adding some crazy user suggested feature before adding the foundational blocks of the game.
We still have tones of stuff on the horison. Turrets, o2/h2, conveyors, wheels, atmosphere engines, and functional blocks like timers, and more.
I'm looking forward to playing the game. Some things kinda bother me though:
1) not having mods through Steam's workshop feels odd, but if Keen themselves are handling it, that could be better... I'm still on the fence about that.
2) Will the functional blocks from the various updates like the turret/AI controllers, action relay, and AI behavioral blocks make it into the game at all? I imagine it'd be later after the VS that adds the programmable block if it does happen
3) Will the DLC skins / armor textures from SE1 be sold again or will Keen leave those behind and add brand new stuff?
1. Keen is confident that their own workshop will be better, let them cook.
2. I assume every functional block will make it over, everything since warfare 2 has been made whilst this game was being worked on so they would have been able to design it with the new game in mind.
3. I doubt they will sell they again, they said they want to make sure everything in SE2 is new.
My concern with keen having full control of the workshop content is if they limit decorative block mods to encourage dlc purchases
They had full control over what was on the Steam Workshop and Mod.IO and they never did anything like that before.
@Zer0sLegion that's good to know thank you
If it is okay to ask, I just got to the part of you saying you are limited in time for the video resulting in a lower quality of editing? I understand but am a little confused on what is setting that time limit as you can upload whenever you feel like it.
Capitalism
@@Zer0sLegion I guess thanks, just was curious and it isn't really my business if that is the right phrase, so I won't ask more about it. Thanks for responding though.
I'd love to see more things about Sabaroids.
They sold a Saberoid plush, I think they're be back.
I think the main problem with this new grid system is welding. How will we weld all this, it would probably require a new welder type.
I did speculate on that a bit, it will be interesting how it works.
no one welds by hand anyway, printers shouldnt have a problem with new grids.
@ Well I play Xbox and Welding walls cost a lot of CPU. Though for new players they may not know.
@@Coolguy-wl9ng Why welder walls? Just use a rotating long stick of welders, everyone does that, its nothing new