I have a newer winter tent, but this one has so many memories I just can't seem to part with it. Thanks for tuning in and for posting. Hope you are having a great week.
I now what you mean skiing with a fully loaded pack! I skied the Sierra High Route on a six day trip it's scary at first but you get used to it and you discover how to ski with a very stable upper body. Very nice video!
Moisture Management->1.) use a thin synthetic quilt over your sleeping bag (held on with 1" aid elastic bands) 2.) buy down garments and bags that has DWR treated down from reputable companies.
Oh Wow! Early Winters hasn't been around for several decades! I miss them-they had some really interesting stuff, like the candle lantern attachment that would hold your snifter of cognac! Should have picked that one up when they were around! As far as goodies go, take a look at Packit Gourmet's general grocery section. We use their FD/DEH foods a lot for our trips. In a half century of backpacking, all the way to high altitude mountaineering, I've never found anything as good as their foods.
The tent has served me well as a winter tent for many years. My ski partner on this trip was not impressed. His winter preference is an open floor pyramid style tent. I've not tried any of the Packit Gourmet products. Which one is your favorite?
@@tomm9850 polenta with pork sausage, West Memphis grits.. The Italian dinners or chicken & dumplings are also great, but at my age spicy foods often bother me. I Add their grocery foods to ramen like their chicken, pineapple, and veggies, along with some dehydrated shitake mushrooms . Their molten lava cakes are to die for, and they have a "happy hour margarita" set where you bring chips & tequila, everything else is in the bag!
Not sure how I missed this video, another great one! Id like to see you do a video of your pre-trip route planning. You use sat images, too maps, trail guides, etc?? You seem to always find the good places!! Thanks again!
Looks fun! I'm surprised you didn't take your SBound 98s. I remember skiing to a public use cabin in Alaska in Prince William Sound and the snow was so deep I had to use a 15ft strap on my water bottle to reach the creek and still had to lay on my belly to barely reach the water! The A frame cabin had snow up to the loft.
I almost took the 98's, and they would have worked out fine, but I chose the Objectives to more closely match the Voile Hypervectors of my ski partner.
For winter camping, I usually have hot cereal with a hot drink for breakfast. I don't have a lunch meal, but snack throughout the day with high calorie foods and cold water for hydration. I always have a hot meal for dinner and end the day with a hot beverage. It takes a lot of fuel for winter camping, especially if you have to melt snow for water. Every now and again, you can find an open source of water and it is a good idea to take advantage of that situation if possible. Winter is not the time to cut it close on fuel, so I always carry a bit more than I end up using. There are so many variables to consider, the type of stove, whether or not you have wind protection, the expected temperatures, and of course the food type for preparation. Some foods simply need to be rehydrated with minimal cook time and other meals take more fuel if they need to be "cooked" for an extended time. I'm bit reluctant to recommend a fuel amount as what I require might be very different from what you might need. For this trip, (3 full days) I was using an MSR white gas stove, and I brought along 3/4 liters of fuel. 3/4 liters of white gas weighs about 540 grams (19 oz) I melted snow for all of my water needs and was able to prepare 5 hot meals. I only had a small amount of fuel remaining at the end of the trip. My skiing partner had his own stove. He brought along 2 - 220 gram iso canisters. I think he went through one canister and started into another, but I'm not certain on that matter. I think he used less fuel than I did but he also was able to gather two liters of water one day, and I didn't have any empty water bottles at the time we came across the stream. At any rate, I appreciate the feedback and best wishes on your next adventure.
36lbs counts as lightweight borderline ultralight for the winter. That’s really close to your summer pack weight, when its pretty normal to add 5-10lbs to your pack for winter conditions due to snow tools, fuel, and extra insulation. I’m sure you could get it lighter, but, really, not too shabby.
@@tomm9850 you desperatley need a piece of carbon cloth welder blanket to throw over your stove when it cooks. It massively saves fuel consumption on a multi day trip.
I'm not exactly sure how the bottle cracked. I didn't take a fall that I can remember, but it was in an outside pocket. I'll definitely be more careful in packing it in the future.
You know that snow is an exfoliant and the need for TP is not only necessary, butt reduces anyone coming across it in the summer in case you forgot tto cover thecat hole. Just saying. :o)
This 4 season tent, the Winterlight, was produced by Early Winters. Early Winters was bought out by Orvis in 1984. Early Winters is probably best known for the omnipotent en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Winters and was one of the original pioneers in high altitude mountaineering tents. www.oregonphotos.com/Early-Winters-3.html
I haven't had the opportunity to see a hilliberg in person, so I can't offer any comparison. The Early Winter's tents were top notch tents in their time, and even came with a serial number (mine is #120) The Winterlight comes in at 2123 grams (4.7 pounds) without stakes, which is amazing even today. Mine has endured severe alpine winter storms (60 plus mph winds) and heavy snowfalls so I have great confidence in the tent. I guess that is why I've kept it for so long. But as one might expect with such an old tent, the zippers are a bit more difficult now (even with zipper lube) and the fabric doesn't stretch as easily as it once did, making it more difficult to get the poles installed. Of all the new winter alpine tents that are available, the one that interests me the most is the Black Diamond Fitzroy. I like the idea that it is a free standing tent and the internal poles are a unique feature. I just wish it was lighter in weight. I'm sure it is a bombproof design. It is probably overkill for the type of winter touring I'm doing at my age. My ski partner is a firm believer in a simple single pole pyramid floorless design for below the tree line winter camping (MSR Front Range). There are lots of advantages to that kind of setup, especially when it comes to cooking, dressing and long duration tent time. That would make for a very interesting video, to compare three options, a small enclosed alpine tent vs a large open floor pyramid tent vs a bivouac sac for winter touring.
@@tomm9850 Thank you Tom...I’ve also considered the luxe xl mini peak ... with added bug net inner for summer. Hope you do a comparison video as well. Andrew New Brunswick Canada 🇨🇦
@@tomm9850 I've got that tent. Worked well for snow camping. I always suspected it would be a bad tent in heavy rain as Goretex eventually wets out. Your experience ?
Excellent video! Lots of great info as well.
Thanks for watching and I hope you are having a great week.
Thank you so much for this! Enjoyed every second of this.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for posting feedback and for tuning in.
Classic Northwest gear, MSR stove Early Winters Winter Light tent. Wore mine out over the years.
I have a newer winter tent, but this one has so many memories I just can't seem to part with it. Thanks for tuning in and for posting. Hope you are having a great week.
That was awesome! Can't beat 4 feet of late march powder in a place like that!
Yes it was great snow.
what a perfect place to ski tour
The Winds have some amazing ski terrain. Thanks for tuning in and I hope you are having a great fall season.
I now what you mean skiing with a fully loaded pack! I skied the Sierra High Route on a six day trip it's scary at first but you get used to it and you discover how to ski with a very stable upper body. Very nice video!
The Sierra High Route sounds like an amazing trip. Thanks for tuning in.
Moisture Management->1.) use a thin synthetic quilt over your sleeping bag (held on with 1" aid elastic bands)
2.) buy down garments and bags that has DWR treated down from reputable companies.
Great advice. Thanks for sharing and for tuning in.
Really enjoyed your video, great camera work, and what a winter paradise!
Thanks for watching and I hope you are having a great winter.
Oh that was great thanks Tom
Glad you enjoyed it
Oh Wow! Early Winters hasn't been around for several decades! I miss them-they had some really interesting stuff, like the candle lantern attachment that would hold your snifter of cognac! Should have picked that one up when they were around! As far as goodies go, take a look at Packit Gourmet's general grocery section. We use their FD/DEH foods a lot for our trips. In a half century of backpacking, all the way to high altitude mountaineering, I've never found anything as good as their foods.
The tent has served me well as a winter tent for many years. My ski partner on this trip was not impressed. His winter preference is an open floor pyramid style tent. I've not tried any of the Packit Gourmet products. Which one is your favorite?
@@tomm9850 polenta with pork sausage, West Memphis grits.. The Italian dinners or chicken & dumplings are also great, but at my age spicy foods often bother me. I Add their grocery foods to ramen like their chicken, pineapple, and veggies, along with some dehydrated shitake mushrooms . Their molten lava cakes are to die for, and they have a "happy hour margarita" set where you bring chips & tequila, everything else is in the bag!
This is great!
Not sure how I missed this video, another great one! Id like to see you do a video of your pre-trip route planning. You use sat images, too maps, trail guides, etc?? You seem to always find the good places!! Thanks again!
Great idea for a future video. Thanks for tuning in and I hope you are having a great week.
Looks fun! I'm surprised you didn't take your SBound 98s. I remember skiing to a public use cabin in Alaska in Prince William Sound and the snow was so deep I had to use a 15ft strap on my water bottle to reach the creek and still had to lay on my belly to barely reach the water! The A frame cabin had snow up to the loft.
I almost took the 98's, and they would have worked out fine, but I chose the Objectives to more closely match the Voile Hypervectors of my ski partner.
Tom great videos, do you eat 1 hot meal a day or hot for every meal. How much fuel per/day did you use ? Or just gas station snacks.
For winter camping, I usually have hot cereal with a hot drink for breakfast. I don't have a lunch meal, but snack throughout the day with high calorie foods and cold water for hydration. I always have a hot meal for dinner and end the day with a hot beverage. It takes a lot of fuel for winter camping, especially if you have to melt snow for water. Every now and again, you can find an open source of water and it is a good idea to take advantage of that situation if possible. Winter is not the time to cut it close on fuel, so I always carry a bit more than I end up using. There are so many variables to consider, the type of stove, whether or not you have wind protection, the expected temperatures, and of course the food type for preparation. Some foods simply need to be rehydrated with minimal cook time and other meals take more fuel if they need to be "cooked" for an extended time. I'm bit reluctant to recommend a fuel amount as what I require might be very different from what you might need. For this trip, (3 full days) I was using an MSR white gas stove, and I brought along 3/4 liters of fuel. 3/4 liters of white gas weighs about 540 grams (19 oz) I melted snow for all of my water needs and was able to prepare 5 hot meals. I only had a small amount of fuel remaining at the end of the trip. My skiing partner had his own stove. He brought along 2 - 220 gram iso canisters. I think he went through one canister and started into another, but I'm not certain on that matter. I think he used less fuel than I did but he also was able to gather two liters of water one day, and I didn't have any empty water bottles at the time we came across the stream. At any rate, I appreciate the feedback and best wishes on your next adventure.
36lbs counts as lightweight borderline ultralight for the winter. That’s really close to your summer pack weight, when its pretty normal to add 5-10lbs to your pack for winter conditions due to snow tools, fuel, and extra insulation.
I’m sure you could get it lighter, but, really, not too shabby.
Appreciate the feedback. Thanks for tuning in
@@tomm9850 you desperatley need a piece of carbon cloth welder blanket to throw over your stove when it cooks. It massively saves fuel consumption on a multi day trip.
@@sasquatchrosefarts I'm not familiar with using a welding blanket for winter stoves. Is it used as a wind screen? Tell me more.
Easy Glide TP. No problem there!
I'm not exactly sure how the bottle cracked. I didn't take a fall that I can remember, but it was in an outside pocket. I'll definitely be more careful in packing it in the future.
Tom you should try a bit of salt with your hot choccy, game changer!
I'll have to give that a try.
You know that snow is an exfoliant and the need for TP is not only necessary, butt reduces anyone coming across it in the summer in case you forgot tto cover thecat hole. Just saying. :o)
Brand of tent Tom?
This 4 season tent, the Winterlight, was produced by Early Winters. Early Winters was bought out by Orvis in 1984. Early Winters is probably best known for the omnipotent en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Winters and was one of the original pioneers in high altitude mountaineering tents. www.oregonphotos.com/Early-Winters-3.html
@@tomm9850 Same quality as hilliberg? Interesting...thank you Tom. Our snow is about gone in the low areas in New Brunswick..Canada
I haven't had the opportunity to see a hilliberg in person, so I can't offer any comparison. The Early Winter's tents were top notch tents in their time, and even came with a serial number (mine is #120) The Winterlight comes in at 2123 grams (4.7 pounds) without stakes, which is amazing even today. Mine has endured severe alpine winter storms (60 plus mph winds) and heavy snowfalls so I have great confidence in the tent. I guess that is why I've kept it for so long. But as one might expect with such an old tent, the zippers are a bit more difficult now (even with zipper lube) and the fabric doesn't stretch as easily as it once did, making it more difficult to get the poles installed. Of all the new winter alpine tents that are available, the one that interests me the most is the Black Diamond Fitzroy. I like the idea that it is a free standing tent and the internal poles are a unique feature. I just wish it was lighter in weight. I'm sure it is a bombproof design. It is probably overkill for the type of winter touring I'm doing at my age. My ski partner is a firm believer in a simple single pole pyramid floorless design for below the tree line winter camping (MSR Front Range). There are lots of advantages to that kind of setup, especially when it comes to cooking, dressing and long duration tent time. That would make for a very interesting video, to compare three options, a small enclosed alpine tent vs a large open floor pyramid tent vs a bivouac sac for winter touring.
@@tomm9850 Thank you Tom...I’ve also considered the luxe xl mini peak ... with added bug net inner for summer. Hope you do a comparison video as well.
Andrew
New Brunswick Canada 🇨🇦
@@tomm9850 I've got that tent. Worked well for snow camping. I always suspected it would be a bad tent in heavy rain as Goretex eventually wets out. Your experience ?