I've been using MAXX for a while and put super glue on the bucking lips to squeeze them in/stiffen them. With HPA this seems a lot more important due to nozzle speed , which is probably why the SI units are so popular among MTW owners
@@wyz2285 having dealt with a number of customer's guns, I sadly have to agree with you. Seeing a barrel somebody cut with a Dremel has made me lose all hope in airsofters lol
Curious on your thoughts about the Maxx hop unit that allows GBB buckings for AEGs. Like you I am a fan of the X-Range due to the stabilizer ring. I think the Maxx with an X-Range bucking could also work to slow and stabilize BBS with more aggressive loading builds.
@@wyz2285 Yea I have not seen or heard any reviews on the new Maxx hop yet. GBB buckings in general have a longer loading ramp (which in theory should help slow and stabilize the BB more than traditional AEG bucking lips), but I would expect Maxx to design this limitation in mind. Otherwise, it will be useless.
@@Taseden No matter how they design it, the nozzle won't have travel for it. IMO Maxx just make these to make a quick buck before people realizing it doesn't work in general (which will take a while, it could work with specific bucking in some setups and few people will get lucky and be happy with it)
Wow, thank you for sharing your knowledge. I knew the trick with the flathop in combination with enlarged barrel window and small nub, but I've tried it with hpa, and the results were meh. Wouldn't it be better if I placed the nub as far as possible and not in the middle of the barrel window? I can 3d print trolleys for e.x. maxx hopup unit, so its doable.
@@wyz2285 It didn't work. The vertical spread is too big. Currently Im using maple leaf hot shot hybrid bucking with gbb barrel, and It gives me far superior results. Still not perfect though. I have SI alpha chamber, and honestly, these tensioner rings aren't doing much in my case. Tested it with P* F2 and Kythera (both have the weaker nozzle return spring installed). Given the best results I've got come from GBB barrel, I'm really eager to test MAXX M4G with the Modify X-Range bucking you recommend. I just got the bucking, and Im yet to test it in my pistol
@@nikelski9590 The bucking will work fine in your pistol, but AEG/HPA engine doesn't have the nozzle travel for GBB buckings, I'm skeptical it would work.
@@nikelski9590 It might work with some GBB bucking, but I'm confident it will not be a problem solver. No matter how it's designed, AEG/HPA nozzle simply does not have the travel to allow consistent bb placement. Maxx probably made these just to grab the cash before people realizing it's crap (which will take a while, I can imagine it work with a few specific bucking and setup)
Completly useless feature the lip tension control XD, just use the correct nozzle for your setup... Its ridiculous all the shit manufacturers try to sell us, and people keep falling on their trap. Maxx hop units are garbage, absolutly garbage for the prize tag, this one looks better, but still fuking overprized piece of junk there is no way you can justify this amount of money, just buy a Retro Arms unit, less than half the prize, double the quality and triple the performance.
I could even make the stock chamber work flawlessly for a particular build (and thats what I use most of the time nowadays) but getting the bucking lip tension right is important for DSG/HPA setups etc. It may be solvable by experiement with different combinations but I consider it a nice feature being able to adjust it, allowing more choice for buckings.
@@wyz2285 Is there a bucking, that is really good for hpa? I think I tried most of the popular setups, and none of them is perfect. G&G green, maple leaf super macaron, Mr hop, madbull red and blue, modify flat, begadi shp, tnt tr hop, krytac orange, r-hop patches. Also tried different nubs, tdc, hardness etc. Really could use some advice from an experienced tech like you 😅
@@wyz2285 I cannot argue against that mate, i dont do HPA, and for DSG and rare builds i always use the Perun adjustable nozzle, it works extremly well for AEGs, most of the time it is the only reliable choice i can find when working with non Ak/m4 based guns
I've been using MAXX for a while and put super glue on the bucking lips to squeeze them in/stiffen them. With HPA this seems a lot more important due to nozzle speed , which is probably why the SI units are so popular among MTW owners
Yeah reinforce the bucking lip can work, but it's too hard for regular people to get it right.
@@wyz2285 having dealt with a number of customer's guns, I sadly have to agree with you. Seeing a barrel somebody cut with a Dremel has made me lose all hope in airsofters lol
Curious on your thoughts about the Maxx hop unit that allows GBB buckings for AEGs. Like you I am a fan of the X-Range due to the stabilizer ring. I think the Maxx with an X-Range bucking could also work to slow and stabilize BBS with more aggressive loading builds.
I'm skeptical, the AEG nozzle doesn't move enough to push the bb into the barrel, like not even close.
@@wyz2285 Yea I have not seen or heard any reviews on the new Maxx hop yet. GBB buckings in general have a longer loading ramp (which in theory should help slow and stabilize the BB more than traditional AEG bucking lips), but I would expect Maxx to design this limitation in mind. Otherwise, it will be useless.
@@Taseden No matter how they design it, the nozzle won't have travel for it. IMO Maxx just make these to make a quick buck before people realizing it doesn't work in general (which will take a while, it could work with specific bucking in some setups and few people will get lucky and be happy with it)
Wow, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I knew the trick with the flathop in combination with enlarged barrel window and small nub, but I've tried it with hpa, and the results were meh.
Wouldn't it be better if I placed the nub as far as possible and not in the middle of the barrel window? I can 3d print trolleys for e.x. maxx hopup unit, so its doable.
It could work, but you don't want the nub to be close to the barrel hop window edge, otherwise you're cutting the bucking when pressing down.
@@wyz2285 It didn't work. The vertical spread is too big. Currently Im using maple leaf hot shot hybrid bucking with gbb barrel, and It gives me far superior results. Still not perfect though.
I have SI alpha chamber, and honestly, these tensioner rings aren't doing much in my case. Tested it with P* F2 and Kythera (both have the weaker nozzle return spring installed).
Given the best results I've got come from GBB barrel, I'm really eager to test MAXX M4G with the Modify X-Range bucking you recommend. I just got the bucking, and Im yet to test it in my pistol
@@nikelski9590 The bucking will work fine in your pistol, but AEG/HPA engine doesn't have the nozzle travel for GBB buckings, I'm skeptical it would work.
@@wyz2285 You mean the GBB M4G will not work at all or it will not solve the problem?
@@nikelski9590 It might work with some GBB bucking, but I'm confident it will not be a problem solver. No matter how it's designed, AEG/HPA nozzle simply does not have the travel to allow consistent bb placement. Maxx probably made these just to grab the cash before people realizing it's crap (which will take a while, I can imagine it work with a few specific bucking and setup)
Hey what model seiko watch is that?
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Completly useless feature the lip tension control XD, just use the correct nozzle for your setup... Its ridiculous all the shit manufacturers try to sell us, and people keep falling on their trap. Maxx hop units are garbage, absolutly garbage for the prize tag, this one looks better, but still fuking overprized piece of junk there is no way you can justify this amount of money, just buy a Retro Arms unit, less than half the prize, double the quality and triple the performance.
I could even make the stock chamber work flawlessly for a particular build (and thats what I use most of the time nowadays) but getting the bucking lip tension right is important for DSG/HPA setups etc. It may be solvable by experiement with different combinations but I consider it a nice feature being able to adjust it, allowing more choice for buckings.
@@wyz2285 Is there a bucking, that is really good for hpa? I think I tried most of the popular setups, and none of them is perfect. G&G green, maple leaf super macaron, Mr hop, madbull red and blue, modify flat, begadi shp, tnt tr hop, krytac orange, r-hop patches. Also tried different nubs, tdc, hardness etc. Really could use some advice from an experienced tech like you 😅
@@wyz2285 I cannot argue against that mate, i dont do HPA, and for DSG and rare builds i always use the Perun adjustable nozzle, it works extremly well for AEGs, most of the time it is the only reliable choice i can find when working with non Ak/m4 based guns