Normally the living cannot punish the dead....but....the person's soul, her ego, lives on forever. That the fate Dahlia will NEVER escape from. All of her crimes were failures. And now she will always remain as Dahlia Hawthorne. A Sad Pathetic girl who could never win at anything. That is her punishment. Mia and Nick found a way to punish Dahlia Hawthorne.
Dahlia may be the most memorable antagonist to come out of this franchise. She may not always succeed, but it's certainly not for lack of trying. The woman is an absolute machine driven by raw hatred, and honestly, that makes her kinda terrifying. She's wiling to come back from the dead just to kill someone she doesn't even know as payback on someone she hates. That is not the kind of person who's shit-list you want to find yourself on.
The Fey family has a big dark history that if you dig deeper into it it gets more and more chilling to say this family is dysfunctional would be a massive understatement this family is plagued with betrayal lies and selfish toxic behavior. As for my thought on imo the main villain or villainess of the entire trilogy Dahlia Hawthorne Phoenix's ex-girlfriend Mia and Maya's cousin Iris' twin sister and Pearl's older sister Dahlia is a psychopath plain and simple she has all the qualities you would expect of one a lack of remorse an intelligent mind all the bells and whistles of a textbook psychopath she has done many terrible crimes since she was a minor at age 14 she has caused many traumas heartbreaks and betrayals wherever she went and never showing any remorse or guilt for all she's done if you ask me she is arguably the most evil villain in the franchise for the simple reason she had no clear motive for all she has done but for the simple fact that she could and wanted to and she is the only villain in the series who came back from the dead and got away with at least one crime and is the only villain except for Kristoph Gavin has a personal connection with the star of the Ace Attorney franchise Phoenix Wright himself due to Dahlia being Phoenix's ex-girlfriend Kristoph Gavin was responsible for giving Phoenix the forged evidence that ruined his career as a lawyer for 7 years and he even had the nerve to pretend he was Phoenix's friend but both villains are textbook psychopaths and that along with the crimes they committed makes them truly a terrifying threat until next time Ace Attorney fans OBJECTION!!!
This is so freaking cool. I loved Trials and Tribulations. Mainly because of the "lore" created by it. This is an excellent video. It depresses me though that the Ace Attorney series has an awesome story like this but many people overlook it.
You people do realize that Manfred von karma is the blame for all this shit? If its anyones fault its his. If Gregory Edgeworth hadnt been killed, then there would have been no DL-6, Misty wouldnt have been called a fraud, Mia wouldnt have become a lawyer (since she did it to find out what happened to her mom), not have gotten killed, Diego would still be Diego, Edgeworth would be a defence attorney, and Phoenix would most likely be a prosecutor (as he states something similiar at the end of Turnabout Goodbyes). And most importantly.... DAHLIA WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE SOCIOPATHIC BITCH WE KNOW HER AS
I'm not so sure about that last one. Morgan still would have married the jeweler, and they still would've divorced because of her not getting Master status. Nothing about Dollie's life would've been different until Turnabout Beginnings, where the story definitively meets up with a couple DL-6 kids. In short, she'd still be at large, and without a Mia to pin her down, she probably would've gotten away with her crimes. And she's not the only criminal who met their match at the hands of Fey & Co. DL-6 was terrible, no sense in denying that. But out of its ashes came a host of colorful characters with reason to fight and the possibility for a brighter future. So, thanks Mr. Von Karma.
Except Dahlia still would've killed Doug. Dahlia's past was entirely separate from the earthquake murder and subsequent trial until she met the first person directly affected by it- which was Rookie Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth.
Yeah, most likely in Bridge to the Turnabout. Couldn't tell you the circumstances beyond that without playing through. Avoiding a confrontation with Maya is more specifically the reason she was okay with leaving Kurain than why she became a lawyer. She had her lost mother's reputation to avenge.
Dahlia is one of the smartest and interesting villains in this game. You just love to fight her, because she thinking pretty much ahead and you have it hard to find any contradiction.
At first, please allow for me to be poor at English. Do you want to know the author of Dahlia's story - Phoenix Wright. (Spoilers)? As for it, I am an author. I contributed it by the name of Risa Risa（リサリサ or 鯖リサリサ or さば or さばっちこ）by the nikoniko-douga. Thank you for your goodwill. I want to show my rink in evidence, but am impossible of a contribution in a comment column. I show it in a free talk place.
@@SET_Studios I found the video, and yeah it is theirs! Plus their artstyle on their UA-cam channel is the same as the artstyle in this video. Risa Risa your artwork is so good I Iove it!! :D I'm so glad I finally found the artist, I love all your Ace Attorney videos!
Ah, this video is so great. Now that I've finished T&T finally I'm going through all these animated things. xD Dahlia is so evil and that's why I love her (well, love to hate), and of course I don't sympathize with her at all... but it's sad to think that maybe her psychotic nature could have been prevented. ...Or she could have just been born with it. Either way, love this tribute. I don't watch Higurashi but perfect choice. >:3
That's just... amazing. Dahlia is one of my favorite villains in the whole series because she has a very interesting background, and the player understands why she became a cold, heartless murderer full of pain...
I'm watching the 5th case. Still trying to figure out the lore. Wow it's confusing, really. NOTE: Dahila is very, very very very very very very very very very messed up.
***** Seriously. Oh well. Fuyuhiko's good enough! Considering he's my third favorite character, and my favorite out of the survivors. Of course, you can probably guess my second favorite? I'll give you a hint, though: It's not Nagito
holy crap i got chills watching that. And I loved every single moment of it~ i like the artwork of this, so nicely made. Now I was sure i saw someone gripe about this not being how the story went. I don't think this was meant to go in order. But we got to see the pictures and we do see a story even if it's not in order. I don't know who made this but wow did they do a good job
this... is fucking brilliant. i love this song, this video, everything is so beautiful. it depicts the story and the characters perfectly, there's no words to describe how great this is. after finishing trials & tribulations i've been looking for videos and pictures and even doujinshis about dahlia hawthorne, and this is a great find. it's perfect.
Actually I found that I can't really hate her after this vid. I would blame Morgan and their father for everything. It's lucky that Iris had Sister Bikini, or she would had probably turned out the same.
Morgan had it twisted. Moreover, the Jeweler and his wife were _not_ kind to their redheaded stepchild. Terry was... not the kind of man who should've been hired as a tutor. Without excusing the evils that she _has_ committed, it's... not that much of a stretch to see why she had to go to such great lengths to protect herself. She was in a vulnerable position. There was no one who would protect her, with the exception of Valerie, who _tried,_ but couldn't really connect. _The betrayals she perpetrated were the consequences of the betrayals she suffered from, and from a tender age, she gave up her own _*_sister_*_ to leave Kurain Village._ Is she justified? No. Is she excused? _Absolutely_ not. She gets only the same amount of sympathy from me that I'd extend to any _other_ sociopath in a difficult place. _...quit _*_using_*_ people._
watch the lets play of turnabout substitution all the way through and you will see another crazy killer wench with almost the same personality. and she's killed about the same number as Dahlia.
Idk why but i think the reason why she forced his father to give away iris is to protect her so she wont get involved in the things that she was going to do
SHE IS THE ONLY CHARACTER IN THE SERIES TO DIE 2 TIMES SHE WAS KILLED BY MIA BEACUSE MIA GOT HER GUILTY AND THROWN IN JAIL NEXT SHE DID TO DEIGO ARMANDO BEACUSE HE DIDN'T WANT HER TO KILL MAYA
Even to this day, i wonder why dahlia didn´t try kill herself when phoenix proved that she was in maya´s body... I mean, she wanted to kill her at all costs (she was already dead after all) , wright? Besides, how did she not notice maya´s hair color and hairstyle when she was channeled by her and noticed pearl´s attributes when she channeled mia? I guess this are questions that will never be answered, wright?
Honestly, i also would have loved to see mia herself channel people because i´m curious to see how would that look like (like she loses her breasts and figure or she keeps them somewhat or depends on the person). Specially if it was Dahlia because of the irony it would create lol
@@adamryamizard5560 Dude are you serious. Mia was also from the Kurain village and she had also learned how to channel spirits. She still wore that magatama thingy in her neck. She left the village because she wanted to see the outside world (The females in the Kurain village weren't allowed to go outside of their village) and decided to get a job as a lawyer.
@@oatmeal8524 looks like you misunderstood what I commented. I was comment on the original comment about "why didn't Dahlia killed herself when she's being channeled by her?"
2:59 Aw! Little Dahlia is getting cut off from little Mia! 3:01 Little Dahlia's got a look on her face that says, "F___. This. S___. Daddy's gonna pay."
Ocean Water You’d have to play Ace attorney: trials and tribulations to find out. If you can’t play the game, then you can watch a play through of it on UA-cam (I recommend lucahjin’s playthrough)
Can anyone tell me who is the guy who appeared at 1:51 that looked strangely like Edgeworth? I don't think it is him because I don't remember him being attacked by Dahlia before?
Dahlia is one of those characters you just love to hate. She's amazing for the simple reason that she is just so evil.
The first three games are just Phoenix fixing Manfred's mess
That's true
Psalm's House Y
I can’t explain how true that is...
*Misty Fey's
@@hippopotomostrosesquippeda5804 Misty did nothing wrong, the police came to her for help
@@simonpro267 And then she failed and abandons her 2 daughters. Because of her, Mia died and because of her all these things happened
Monsters. They are not born, they are made.
behold the exception. dahlia, not you.
Dahlia wasn't born a criminal, she was made one through years of systematic Abuse.
Amen
Normally the living cannot punish the dead....but....the person's soul, her ego, lives on forever. That the fate Dahlia will NEVER escape from. All of her crimes were failures. And now she will always remain as Dahlia Hawthorne. A Sad Pathetic girl who could never win at anything. That is her punishment.
Mia and Nick found a way to punish Dahlia Hawthorne.
She needs rehab somewhere in this universe
The Dahlia's "Arc" Was the Best out of all part in the serie hands down !
Dahlia may be the most memorable antagonist to come out of this franchise. She may not always succeed, but it's certainly not for lack of trying. The woman is an absolute machine driven by raw hatred, and honestly, that makes her kinda terrifying. She's wiling to come back from the dead just to kill someone she doesn't even know as payback on someone she hates. That is not the kind of person who's shit-list you want to find yourself on.
It’s also confusing as fuck
The Fey family has a big dark history that if you dig deeper into it it gets more and more chilling to say this family is dysfunctional would be a massive understatement this family is plagued with betrayal lies and selfish toxic behavior. As for my thought on imo the main villain or villainess of the entire trilogy Dahlia Hawthorne Phoenix's ex-girlfriend Mia and Maya's cousin Iris' twin sister and Pearl's older sister Dahlia is a psychopath plain and simple she has all the qualities you would expect of one a lack of remorse an intelligent mind all the bells and whistles of a textbook psychopath she has done many terrible crimes since she was a minor at age 14 she has caused many traumas heartbreaks and betrayals wherever she went and never showing any remorse or guilt for all she's done if you ask me she is arguably the most evil villain in the franchise for the simple reason she had no clear motive for all she has done but for the simple fact that she could and wanted to and she is the only villain in the series who came back from the dead and got away with at least one crime and is the only villain except for Kristoph Gavin has a personal connection with the star of the Ace Attorney franchise Phoenix Wright himself due to Dahlia being Phoenix's ex-girlfriend Kristoph Gavin was responsible for giving Phoenix the forged evidence that ruined his career as a lawyer for 7 years and he even had the nerve to pretend he was Phoenix's friend but both villains are textbook psychopaths and that along with the crimes they committed makes them truly a terrifying threat until next time Ace Attorney fans OBJECTION!!!
This is so freaking cool. I loved Trials and Tribulations. Mainly because of the "lore" created by it. This is an excellent video. It depresses me though that the Ace Attorney series has an awesome story like this but many people overlook it.
Agreed
You people do realize that Manfred von karma is the blame for all this shit? If its anyones fault its his. If Gregory Edgeworth hadnt been killed, then there would have been no DL-6, Misty wouldnt have been called a fraud, Mia wouldnt have become a lawyer (since she did it to find out what happened to her mom), not have gotten killed, Diego would still be Diego, Edgeworth would be a defence attorney, and Phoenix would most likely be a prosecutor (as he states something similiar at the end of Turnabout Goodbyes).
And most importantly....
DAHLIA WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE SOCIOPATHIC BITCH WE KNOW HER AS
I'm not so sure about that last one. Morgan still would have married the jeweler, and they still would've divorced because of her not getting Master status. Nothing about Dollie's life would've been different until Turnabout Beginnings, where the story definitively meets up with a couple DL-6 kids. In short, she'd still be at large, and without a Mia to pin her down, she probably would've gotten away with her crimes. And she's not the only criminal who met their match at the hands of Fey & Co.
DL-6 was terrible, no sense in denying that. But out of its ashes came a host of colorful characters with reason to fight and the possibility for a brighter future. So, thanks Mr. Von Karma.
What does he say in Turnabout Goodbyes?
Except Dahlia still would've killed Doug. Dahlia's past was entirely separate from the earthquake murder and subsequent trial until she met the first person directly affected by it- which was Rookie Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth.
Wasn´t it impliyed Mia became a lawyer because she didn´t want to fight over being the master with Maya?
Yeah, most likely in Bridge to the Turnabout. Couldn't tell you the circumstances beyond that without playing through.
Avoiding a confrontation with Maya is more specifically the reason she was okay with leaving Kurain than why she became a lawyer. She had her lost mother's reputation to avenge.
Lawl, I love how Mia is like, whacha gonna do now bitch?
lightningclaire21 Poor Mia
she didn't deserve to die
Poor Doug and Godot/Diego
Wow I forgot about this video for the longest time glad I found it again
Did you remember again?
Poke Oh no but you reminded me-
Clap clap
Godot no
Dahlia is one of the smartest and interesting villains in this game. You just love to fight her, because she thinking pretty much ahead and you have it hard to find any contradiction.
So true
smart in the short term, but most of her plans weren’t very well thought out
Oh Dahlia.... She was definitely not hugged enough as a child
I blame Morgan
@@axoltheartist AXOL WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE
@@slushy7234 SLUSHY ?!?? WHAT
@@slushy7234 THIS IS SO FUNNY I DONT EVEN REMEMBER WATCHING THIS VIDEO LMAOOOOOO
@@axoltheartist FUNNY SEEING YOU HERE
Damn, Mia is such a savage for taunting Dahlia even from the dead!
Dahlia has a tragic side as well, as evil as she may be
At first, please allow for me to be poor at English.
Do you want to know the author of Dahlia's story - Phoenix Wright. (Spoilers)? As for it, I am an author.
I contributed it by the name of Risa Risa（リサリサ or 鯖リサリサ or さば or さばっちこ）by the nikoniko-douga.
Thank you for your goodwill.
I want to show my rink in evidence, but am impossible of a contribution in a comment column. I show it in a free talk place.
so if this is true, then the original video should still be at niconico douga right?
Wow, real recognition!
@@SET_Studios I found the video, and yeah it is theirs! Plus their artstyle on their UA-cam channel is the same as the artstyle in this video.
Risa Risa your artwork is so good I Iove it!! :D I'm so glad I finally found the artist, I love all your Ace Attorney videos!
WOWWWW :D
TYSM
0:16
We
Are the Crystal Gems
No matter how many times I've watched Higurashi, this video gives me more chills than Higurashi's opening.
Really agreed
Ah, this video is so great. Now that I've finished T&T finally I'm going through all these animated things. xD
Dahlia is so evil and that's why I love her (well, love to hate), and of course I don't sympathize with her at all... but it's sad to think that maybe her psychotic nature could have been prevented. ...Or she could have just been born with it. Either way, love this tribute. I don't watch Higurashi but perfect choice. >:3
SAME!
Well since she has a twin sister iris one twin is good and one twin is bad
The song is from the anime: Higurashi.
Call_Me_Mad Which song?
Anna and Andy Nguyen isnt this the opening
@@secala5540 yup, Higurashi no naku koro ni's OP
I am confusion
@@maverickhunterstupidiocy7779 our kansas
Even though Dahlia's evil and shiz, she's still one of my favorites. xD Of course, Iris is also my favorite.
Same
That's just... amazing. Dahlia is one of my favorite villains in the whole series because she has a very interesting background, and the player understands why she became a cold, heartless murderer full of pain...
I'm watching the 5th case. Still trying to figure out the lore. Wow it's confusing, really.
NOTE: Dahila is very, very very very very very very very very very messed up.
***** Still need an explanation of the lore? Because I could explain it, if you wish
***** You're late, I already know the lore. Nice Gundam pic btw.
***** FUCK YEAH, GUNDHAM! Best character
***** Wish he didn't die. ;-;
***** Seriously. Oh well. Fuyuhiko's good enough! Considering he's my third favorite character, and my favorite out of the survivors. Of course, you can probably guess my second favorite? I'll give you a hint, though: It's not Nagito
holy crap i got chills watching that. And I loved every single moment of it~
i like the artwork of this, so nicely made. Now I was sure i saw someone gripe about this not being how the story went. I don't think this was meant to go in order. But we got to see the pictures and we do see a story even if it's not in order. I don't know who made this but wow did they do a good job
All that glitters is not gold, never hads that phrase had such meaning until Dahlia
This is so beautiful... thank you for uploading it, it inspires me a lot
3:58 Mia: What now, *_bitch?!_*
Came for the actual video
Stayed for the Higurashi OP
mydia023 I KNEW I recognized that music! And it suits her too!
trearoos
Higurashi iz luv
Higurashi iz lyfe
this... is fucking brilliant. i love this song, this video, everything is so beautiful. it depicts the story and the characters perfectly, there's no words to describe how great this is. after finishing trials & tribulations i've been looking for videos and pictures and even doujinshis about dahlia hawthorne, and this is a great find. it's perfect.
Seeing this vid I now fully realize Dahlia's Mia's cousin.
9 years since I last saw this and it remains one of my fave vids to this day. It's so good.
Oh, god, this is utterly beautiful. The symbolism in it is absolutely amazing, and the illustration is perfect. I hope we find the original creator.
They are here.
just remembered this existed
Why is this video so insanely intense?
That’s some great animation.
If i can like you twice, i will because i really agree with you
BRUHH THIS IS SO GOOD LIKE WHAT??
The music... it sounds like it's from the Persona series. Fitting.
This video and those pics were AWESOME!!!
When Dahlia Hawthorne cries?
_Angels themselves weep._
La mejor Villana que tuvo el Videojuego hasta hoy
I’m surprised Iris was the only one with a heart.
It has disappeared hasn’t it? You’ve done us all a favor I can assure you
Also, the guy at 1:51 was Doug something. Dahlia's boyfriend before Pheonix.
*****
spit
Doug Swallow(s 40,000 volts)
Yep he was Dahlia's boyfriend. But I guess he broke uo with her after he found out that Dahlia stole dangerous chemicals from his lab.
higarashi music sounds like corpse party
After watching this video i feel bad for dahlia somehow.
She's still crazy but.. meh
Mizu yeah same. Felt a bit bad for her
i love dahlia hawthorne.
Actually I found that I can't really hate her after this vid. I would blame Morgan and their father for everything. It's lucky that Iris had Sister Bikini, or she would had probably turned out the same.
Morgan had it twisted.
Moreover, the Jeweler and his wife were _not_ kind to their redheaded stepchild.
Terry was... not the kind of man who should've been hired as a tutor.
Without excusing the evils that she _has_ committed, it's... not that much of a stretch to see why she had to go to such great lengths to protect herself.
She was in a vulnerable position. There was no one who would protect her, with the exception of Valerie, who _tried,_ but couldn't really connect.
_The betrayals she perpetrated were the consequences of the betrayals she suffered from, and from a tender age, she gave up her own _*_sister_*_ to leave Kurain Village._
Is she justified? No.
Is she excused? _Absolutely_ not.
She gets only the same amount of sympathy from me that I'd extend to any _other_ sociopath in a difficult place.
_...quit _*_using_*_ people._
watch the lets play of turnabout substitution all the way through and you will see another crazy killer wench with almost the same personality. and she's killed about the same number as Dahlia.
It's actually more like interpretation
Bois and girs we made it they released Apollo Justice on Apple devicesssss
This is brilliant
Fantastic job!
I really loved this if i could like twice i will
와 지렸다... 잘만들었네요!!👍👍
that was freaking awesome!!!
The user that created this video, also created the Godot's Story video. They were both originally from the niconico website (I think).
I don't usually hate Video-Games characters, but she, she is just, The devil in a beauty
Too bad she wasn't on dual destinies.
Wait... I just realized Maya and Mia is Dahlia's cousin. This video made me feel bad for her. I still hate her tho lol
The women of the Ayasato clan are a troubled lot.
@@a-s-greig _That's_ an understatement...
This is very well done.
My Yandere Theme
well it was sweet well it lasted dolly but every thing ends even you
Dahlia Hawthorne certainly is a weird way of mispelling devil
Moral of the story: Blame Morgan Fay
I love this but I hate Dahlia
D-don't kill me ;-;
Holy shit
Thanks ! I remember now :D !
01:34 WTF ! this is how I imagined the father of Iris and Daliah Oo
Idk why but i think the reason why she forced his father to give away iris is to protect her so she wont get involved in the things that she was going to do
Loving the higurashi music
Oh.. thank you.
I didn't understand this until I finished T&T
100% trully effort,....speechless even I cant do it way more well...keep it up XD
i love this vid
what a poor demon...
SHE IS THE ONLY CHARACTER IN THE SERIES TO DIE 2 TIMES SHE WAS KILLED BY MIA BEACUSE MIA GOT HER GUILTY AND THROWN IN JAIL NEXT SHE DID TO DEIGO ARMANDO BEACUSE HE DIDN'T WANT HER TO KILL MAYA
Higurashi + Ace Attorney = Heaven
Now I Get It
She is A Demon :D
Even to this day, i wonder why dahlia didn´t try kill herself when phoenix proved that she was in maya´s body...
I mean, she wanted to kill her at all costs (she was already dead after all) , wright?
Besides, how did she not notice maya´s hair color and hairstyle when she was channeled by her and noticed pearl´s attributes when she channeled mia?
I guess this are questions that will never be answered, wright?
Honestly, i also would have loved to see mia herself channel people because i´m curious to see how would that look like (like she loses her breasts and figure or she keeps them somewhat or depends on the person). Specially if it was Dahlia because of the irony it would create lol
How can she do that when she doesn't have anything to do it?
@@adamryamizard5560 Dude are you serious. Mia was also from the Kurain village and she had also learned how to channel spirits. She still wore that magatama thingy in her neck. She left the village because she wanted to see the outside world (The females in the Kurain village weren't allowed to go outside of their village) and decided to get a job as a lawyer.
@@oatmeal8524 looks like you misunderstood
what I commented.
I was comment on the original comment about "why didn't Dahlia killed herself when she's being channeled by her?"
i actually counted all of Dahlia offenses before and counted over 10 things
omg!!! is a psicopat!!! but omg... i dont what to said..
1:10 Morgan Fey= Oryou Sonozaki!
Higurashi no naku koro ni!!!! AAAAAAAW YEEEAAAAAAH!!!!!!
Mia Fey: A BOSS!
Funny gues with that doll giving...
2:59
Aw! Little Dahlia is getting cut off from little Mia!
3:01
Little Dahlia's got a look on her face that says,
"F___. This. S___. Daddy's gonna pay."
Well, she did get the death sentence.
Goos video. Whats IS the name of the musical theme that you used for the video?
So i finally know what is her father face is
I saw this before I watched higurashi...
It's the first Opening from Higurashi no naku koro ni
Where and when did I hear this song again..?
This will be spoilers, but it's because they're sisters.
Loved the higurashi theme xD
So what did she do? And did she really something with Maya?
She made Godot kill her mother and she almost killed her as well.
Please explain me her story and why and how she possessed Maya and Cause..please.
Ocean Water You’d have to play Ace attorney: trials and tribulations to find out. If you can’t play the game, then you can watch a play through of it on UA-cam (I recommend lucahjin’s playthrough)
@@aishutoon4553 oh okay, Thank you!
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Can anyone tell me who is the guy who appeared at 1:51 that looked strangely like Edgeworth? I don't think it is him because I don't remember him being attacked by Dahlia before?
Hes most likely the guy that died during the first case of trials and tribulations. ( The guy that phoenix was accused of killing)
Ah I see thank you
Doug swallow
Doug Swallow
Imagine if she murdered Phoenix...
why 3 comments on this AWESOME vid?! (er 4 commetns)
This isn't how the fucking thing went! I saw the desc.
Wait a sec!!! I know this video!!!!! It's [Ace Attorney] Higurashi no Naku Koro ni by SouryuuKaminogi!!!!!!!!